Shell Game (Day 4)

[Gypyx]

Hello gamers

VOTE: spiffeh

this is not RVS vote

[Gypyx]

Hi everyone, I am undisputedly Town and any notions to the contrary will not be tolerated!!!

Hi Gypyx I think you may have missed this post? Super embarrassing for you but I'm willing to overlook it if you sheep me onto Sunflower

Oh yeah uh i'm sorry this time i've decided this post means you're scum

[Gypyx]

Also sunflower saying theres exactly 1 is a bit wonky but i think the "1 or 0" is farrr worse

I find marci's paranoia and handling of the hood info to be townie.

Gold star for marci

ditto'd

kinda curious if there's been conversations in the hood around claiming this?

[Gypyx]

i hope theres 0 wolves in the hood i think it would be the funniest choice

i think that by flavor of this game, the hood members can probably switch around

[Gypyx]

@Luke Nope

My neighborhood consists of myself, Dunnstral, Hermit Crab, Bingle, SirCakez, and Firebringer if that hasn’t been said already

is it a regular hood or is there also something extra?

Hood tracker :

Hood 1
Marci / klick / sunflower / actiondan / save the dragon

this hood gets info if there are no scums in it by a certain point in time

Hood 2 :

Dunn / Hermit / Bingle / Bakez / Firebringer

[Gypyx]

I'd be curious as to why people are townreading spiffeh if anyone is

[Gypyx]

I am in a six person hood that is not Marci’s

Oh so this is why it's a shell game.

Ugh I don't wanna play outguess the mod about scum in hoods.

Guess what, we can just find whoever's scummy without caring about the rest

[Gypyx]

I'd be curious as to why people are townreading spiffeh if anyone is

You might have more luck if you explain why you’re NOT Town reading me and seeing how people respond vs. calling me scum with no explanation and expecting people to feel the same way!

I'd rather die than scumcase someone after the disaster that have been my reads lately

it's also more of me not seeing it so like, i wanna know, not engaging in a battle to the death with u

[Gypyx]

Dann feels different from the dann i'm used to see also

not sure what to make of it

[Gypyx]

Holy shit page 51

[Gypyx]

Is there a third hood

[Gypyx]

There is a third hood

[Gypyx]

I think this is gonna be like Kemusan when i'm reading like half of the first day and then i'm alive at ELo and god i wish i would have put more effort into the early game

[Gypyx]

I'd be curious as to why people are townreading spiffeh if anyone is

You might have more luck if you explain why you’re NOT Town reading me and seeing how people respond vs. calling me scum with no explanation and expecting people to feel the same way!

I'd rather die than scumcase someone after the disaster that have been my reads lately

it's also more of me not seeing it so like, i wanna know, not engaging in a battle to the death with u

I am not looking to get into a battle to the death. I don't find your hesitance to townread me all that surprising given our recent history, and I actually think certain players have given me a free pass this game that I haven't earned (which I will address at some point), since nothing I've really done has been outside of my scum range imo

I do take issue with your initial (seemingly) confident scum read on me crumbling immediately upon calling you out and asking you to elaborate.

I'd love to rekindle what we had in Kemusan if you're Town here, so a good first step would be to explain why you're scum reading me, or actually doing something about it!

Still curious about your explanation for scum reading me if you could give that.

You'll find that you are no longer alone in those sentiments if that makes you feel better!

Well, to put it in a few words my reads lately haven't been stellar, so i kinda lacked the confidence to push through and assert my read

haven't read your recent posts but basically this game, you feel like you're trying to reproduce your town style instead of actually being town?

[Gypyx]

Is there a post recapping the whole hood situation cause i'm kinda not in the mood to dig through 40 pages

[Gypyx]

Spoiler:

Hi everyone, I am undisputedly Town and any notions to the contrary will not be tolerated!!!

Also, the scum team is Firebringer, PookyTheMagicalBear, Klick, Sunflower, and Lukewarm

VOTE: Sunflower

Ok the site is too laggy for me to keep refreshing the thread so I will instead devote my time to casing someone on page 6!

I have similar concerns about fireisredsir.

*WE* have concerns, simultaneously and independently!


Fire seems to have taken the "Jupiter in a scum slot fluffyness" and made it a part of himself right now. And I don't like it one little itty bitty bit.

Grrrrrrr.

i was fluffier entering kemusan which you both saw so this is an interesting take

What has snagged your attention so far?

actiondan is interesting to me. feel safe leaning town for now i think although scum is possible

pooky a little towny

dunn a little towny although his willingness to elaborate so much on reads already was quite surprising to me. i don't think it's scummy though, just surprising

y'all i think feel eager to dig into things which is probably a good enough sign for now that id rather let you do that, although i think the point on me is one that feels misapplied

if i were to put a bet on a scum rn i think id guess STD. that's based on almost nothing however id still take the pookybucks

firebagel feels likely to be readable given time so not worried there rn

I don't like either of the above from Sunflower

The first deflects morph's (imo valid) point about their fluffiness by mentioning one game where they were fluffy early on as town. By mentioning this, it demonstrates that they are aware of their town meta and therefore should have no problem replicating it, so I'm not sure the purpose of even saying this other than to try to get morph off their back.

The second post feels like scum artificially inflating the word count to look like they have substantial thoughts, idk how to really articulate it but it feels insecure to me. The ActionDan read is basically "I think town but he could be scum" which is very non-committal, so what's the point of including it in the first place? The comments about morph and STD follow this same pattern, though less explicitly. It feels like they felt the need to pad their response to morph to make it look like they were thinking about the game critically and it resulted into a bunch of "reads" that don't actually tell me anything.

These, along with their not so stellar (but not quite irredeemable!) early posts makes me happy with my vote on them.

@Sunflower:
1. What makes morph and Dunn's takes about your fluffiness "interesting" and how does this inform your read on them?
2. Can you go into more detail on the ActionDan read?

Mostly vibes

You came into the game engaging heavily and asking questions in a way that felt pro-town

And while I don't necessarily agree with some of your conclusions, I believe that you believe the things you are saying

Hi everyone, I am undisputedly Town and any notions to the contrary will not be tolerated!!!

Hi Gypyx I think you may have missed this post? Super embarrassing for you but I'm willing to overlook it if you sheep me onto Sunflower

I’m so proud of that Eternity Larva post you quoted, probably my towniest post in that game lol

That kinda was all that

especially it's a bit metagamey but in kemusan i mentionned TR'ing you for saying you got a town PM, and the way you're doing it here feels very deliberate

[Gypyx]

Alright i'll bear that in mind, still the style difference is weirding me out a bit

pedit : I recall finding shello / CSF quite towny, dann i also wanted to make a deeper look into but i think he could very well be scum

[Gypyx]

It's mostly the vibes around the slot / how they're going around solving the game? I see skitter still hasn't posted but i also wanted to give a lot of value in whatever read i ended up getting on ydra since my previous record when it comes to reading skitter correctly is... not good lol

[Gypyx]

goddamnit

[Gypyx]

also you shall remain skitterless for now

skitterless sounds like an insult 14 year olds would throw at each other

[Gypyx]

Spiffeh / Dannflor / ActionDan sounds like a good starting point for now

[Gypyx]

Spiffeh i've already explained somewhat

Dannflor i kinda struggle to put it into words but basically it feels like he's putting himself as someone who's merely observing the game? Like, his posting feels informed basically

ActionDan is just me sheeping the cases i've seen on him, not much to add there

[Gypyx]

oh my...so many pages

Me when i see a dictionnary

[Gypyx]

Around here !

[Gypyx]

it's more based on the case about him trying to direct attention away from the hood

Apart from shello i'm not really townreading anyone yet

[Gypyx]

Pages 1/10, 45/now, and some snippets here and there

oh yeah i'm also TR'ing marci

admittedly i haven't really been looking for town so much, rather, i was kinda vibing and then got caught up in the mech talk

[Gypyx]

Can you show me the AD case you’re referring to?

I would love to but i can't recall where i've read it and i'm not really able to search through the thread rn

[Gypyx]

Gypyx do you have an opinion on scum in the klick-sunflower-marci-dan-std hood?

My guess would be at dan, i've taken a look at klick ISO and idk what the wagon is about

[Gypyx]

2-3 targets is good, as long as people coordinate so there's no overlap

[Gypyx]

hello the mod asked me to post

i'll try to do that in a few mins

[Gypyx]

VOTE: gypyx
Kinda like dannnnnns recent posts

Elaborate? scoured his ISO and what i was struggling to put into words is that he sounds very emotionally detached

[Gypyx]

I come back into threads and i get 2 more votes wow, way to make me want to play the game guys

i'll be a little diva and wait for my second prod before resuming posting then

[Gypyx]

kinda surprised that cakez got a whole 4 votes with like 16 posts which are all somewhat NAI

[Gypyx]

VOTE: gypyx
Kinda like dannnnnns recent posts

Elaborate? scoured his ISO and what i was struggling to put into words is that he sounds very emotionally detached

that changed in the last 16 or so hours IMO.

well you would be WRONG *this post should be read with a dramatic gong effect playing in the background*

[Gypyx]

do you think me being emotionally detached is scum indicative

o shit that's a good post

i do think it's scum indicative but the way dann is going around it kinda makes me think no

[Gypyx]

do you think me being emotionally detached is scum indicative

o shit that's a good post

i do think it's scum indicative but the way dann is going around it kinda makes me think no

can you explain more why you thought it was scum indicative initially and why that's a good post

Well, the way you're replying makes me think you're legit beliving in your own towniness, and also i just don't think you play around me like that as scum? Of course you might know how to pocket me but whatever

i originally viewed it as scum indicative cause it felt like as town you weren't really trying to hide your emotions so much? it's a bit of just me and my big mindset theory which is slowly crumbling each time i'm wrong, idk, think i'll go back on that read if stuff changes

[Gypyx]

do you think me being emotionally detached is scum indicative

o shit that's a good post

i do think it's scum indicative but the way dann is going around it kinda makes me think no

can you explain more why you thought it was scum indicative initially and why that's a good post

Well, the way you're replying makes me think you're legit beliving in your own towniness, and

also i just don't think you play around me like that as scum? Of course you might know how to pocket me but whatever

i originally viewed it as scum indicative cause it felt like as town you weren't really trying to hide your emotions so much? it's a bit of just me and my big mindset theory which is slowly crumbling each time i'm wrong, idk, think i'll go back on that read if stuff changes

Gypyx, do you think Dann and Spiffeh would be playing around you specifically this game, given how many other more vocal people are in this list ?

I noticed you used a similar argument with Spiffeh - "Spiffeh is scum because he would say this specific thing to deliberately pocket me in particular" but I'm not sure I buy that you truly believe that.

I'm a slot that usually lives to ELo, i think my opinion is pretty important to the scumteam

i do agree that point wasn't a masterpiece though, kinda my brain running on an ego theory

[Gypyx]

What do you make of her 2555?

I think it's mildly towny

I think scum instinctually tries to look less sensitive to a couple votes

i think she was extremely funny for doing that post and should be praised

[Gypyx]

Spiffy the greatest compliment I’ve ever received is im like you

I gotta look back at who tf was hermit crab in animalia

[Gypyx]

oh my...so many pages

Me when i see a dictionnary

this is the funniest post in the game

- ydra

I've acheived what i set out to do this game, i exit the game in a victory, call the curtains

[Gypyx]

Spoiler:

@Luke Nope

My neighborhood consists of myself, Dunnstral, Hermit Crab, Bingle, SirCakez, and Firebringer if that hasn’t been said already

is it a regular hood or is there also something extra?

Hood tracker :

Hood 1
Marci / klick / sunflower / actiondan / save the dragon

this hood gets info if there are no scums in it by a certain point in time

Hood 2 :

Dunn / Hermit / Bingle / Bakez / Firebringer

Is there a third hood

I think this is gonna be like Kemusan when i'm reading like half of the first day and then i'm alive at ELo and god i wish i would have put more effort into the early game

Is there a post recapping the whole hood situation cause i'm kinda not in the mood to dig through 40 pages

kinda surprised that cakez got a whole 4 votes with like 16 posts which are all somewhat NAI

do you think me being emotionally detached is scum indicative

o shit that's a good post

i do think it's scum indicative but the way dann is going around it kinda makes me think no

these just kinda feel like she's figuring stuff out on her own to me

her perspective on things feels limited to what's in her own brain

like seeing cakez wagon, going huh whats that about, and checking his iso and seeing nothing (because his iso doesn't really explain the slip argument that people are pushing him for)

like yeah she COULD fake that mindset as mafia if she wanted to, it's easy to do, but would she? idk feels less likely to me

Well could you maybe point out the post that go over the slip my dearest fellow? thank you and good day

[Gypyx]

i’m uncertain of gypyx is a good wagon i feel like her most recent posts go against the grain of her meta being “wolf gypyx hates existing in a thread and it’s visible”, i think she has heard this enough to know she has to combat it tho but it doesn’t feel like a good vote

I voted there because I feel like Gypyx only show up when she’s being talked about.

-Herr Mitt

Oh no you've figured me out

but yeah when i see stuff about me i check it out with more scrutiny

[Gypyx]

people want the Gypyx maybe because they hear that other people want the gypyx wagon and we're kinda starved for any wagon at all (the other people also want the gypyx wagon because people are talking about it)

anyways umm if that can help you decide here's the one scumgame i've had since returning from hiatus : viewtopic.php?t=92263

[Gypyx]

Yeah I'm not really a fan of the gypyx wagon

you think it's scum or misguided?

[Gypyx]

i want to join cakez because wagons but i also want gypyx and she's just so close to being a competing wagon

hold the line penguin...hold the line.

VOTE: gypyx

Three dueling wagons is like 2 dueling wagons but with more room for backroom duels.

kinda icky post actually

[Gypyx]

random thing but

I feel like I probably shouldn't be town reading oblivion

Oooooh can you talk abt this more please?

Also i probably rather vote cakez or brian (or bagel) than gypyx but sorting it out with ydra

~ skitter

i think oblivion has been consistently putting out surface-towny content but I don't really feel like it has deeply engaged in the game yet like a townie

I don't get the sense there is something it really cares about?

like even its most recent 2698... i don't really feel like oblivion cares about its marci town read, i feel like it's doing busy work

think this points at town marci if oblivion is indeed scum

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Bingle

[Gypyx]

Marcistar died of hypothermia, we're gonna need a replacement

[Gypyx]

IM SITTING DOWN AT MY COMPUTER AND IM NOT LEAVING UNTIL IM DONE WITH CATCH-UP

have you ever heard of the fable "the boy who cried wolf?"

Actually yeah i have

not seeing ur point tho

[Gypyx]

why did you catch up

[Gypyx]

What does ama mean

Attack Me Anytime

[Gypyx]

agree about scum brian, although i find the way morph is pushing on it intriguing

thoughts on cakez / brian potentially being S/S?

[Gypyx]

Yeah i think we should absolutely keep scrutiny on cakez, or maybe Bingle? my ego tells me bingle was somewhat threatened

will wait before voting to let everyone pop in

[Gypyx]

what's a bookie btw i wanted to ask ceph but got lazy

[Gypyx]

oh wow i see, pretty powerful

[Gypyx]

Yeah i think we should absolutely keep scrutiny on cakez, or maybe Bingle? my ego tells me bingle was somewhat threatened

will wait before voting to let everyone pop in

Can you go into more detail on why you think this

there was a lot of people asking for a bingle case and all, if Brian wasn't so obvious scum and other options could've been brought to consideration, i fully belive bingle could've been a wagon

[Gypyx]

ngl i was kinda hoping for this day to be simpler than the last one with the mech guilty stuff lol

[Gypyx]

Im not reading it all but on a glance shes giving alot more there

VOTE: gypyx

that's true but also here are 2 things

- i'm way more gamed right now than i was during a big portion of the game, this situation is slowly sorting itself out though

- this is a 22 players game, during Kemusan's early game, i had the exact same problem of not being able to really do much more than live in the moment

[Gypyx]

anyways wim is kinda here for this game now so i'm gonna try stuff

[Gypyx]

wait that's like 5 votes in 2 pages lol

i'm public ennemy number 1, this is flattering

[Gypyx]

the way morph / penguin went about voting me is pretty good, and i feel like it's a realistic approach for town to take

i do not like wolfbae's

Anyway....

this game just ended an hour ago, I think gypyx is kind of just outed mafia

like just check the iso check back here, let's yeet her and we can all sing kumbayah

this does not read like enthusiatic town happy that they've caught a scum, this is just someone who's out for blood

[Gypyx]

Isn't that everyones role in the dethy

i have no clue.

aintnoway that's a real thought experience is having

[Gypyx]

this imo just feels like scum faking confusion or afraid to slip up TMI and therefore being extremely cautious with what they speculate about

[Gypyx]

this does not read like enthusiatic town happy that they've caught a scum, this is just someone who's out for blood

What's the difference?

difference lies in how hard the push happens? Like, you do not just put that and mic drop? especially when the thread starts talking about other things, wolfbae is using very strong words about me while have a pretty weak push in effect

also

VOTE: gypyx

come out and play

Do you really ask this to someone who you belive is about to get confirmed scum soon?

[Gypyx]

Marci should investigate if they belive whoever they gave their cop shot to is gonna be able to fire it off prolly

[Gypyx]

"The long answer"

*answer is 8 words longer*

[Gypyx]

holy shit Vriska reference

[Gypyx]

If we’re assuming groupscum then yeah.

I might reconsider if people like gypyx start flipping scum though.

-HM

Methinks this leans town on hermit, but it also comes from a place of knowing my own alignement

[Gypyx]

this does not read like enthusiatic town happy that they've caught a scum, this is just someone who's out for blood

What's the difference?

difference lies in how hard the push happens? Like, you do not just put that and mic drop? especially when the thread starts talking about other things, wolfbae is using very strong words about me while have a pretty weak push in effect

also

VOTE: gypyx

come out and play

Do you really ask this to someone who you belive is about to get confirmed scum soon?

Why wouldn't wolfbae lead the push with that?

Ok maybe it's a me thing if you're not seeing it but do you really ask to what you belive is scum attempting to coast by to play? that's not gonna change anything for me whatever my alignement is, but it deflects the guilt from wolfbae to me, contrary to saying something like "I think Gypyx is scum who's avoiding playing the game" much more different look

[Gypyx]

ok lol maybe dunn is a wolfbae partner lol

just look at how differently he's treating my wolfbae read vs my hermit crab read

[Gypyx]

viewtopic.php?t=92263

btw i know it's a micro so different context but scum!gypyx is absolutely able to top the posting charts, and i'm in fact eagerly awaiting my next scum rand

[Gypyx]

ok lol maybe dunn is a wolfbae partner lol

just look at how differently he's treating my wolfbae read vs my hermit crab read

What do you mean by this?

i shade onto wolfbae, you argue that there's nothing wrong with it

I townread hermit crab, you're straight up asking me to scumread HC for it

[Gypyx]

I literally would have made that exact come play post if id known the game was over and nobody had brought it up here yet.


But I was out at a date with the better penguin.

my problem lies more in the dissonance between "come play" and "Gypyx is confscum"

like that kinda closes all discussion no?

[Gypyx]

I'm not asking you to scumread HC. I want to know why you are coming to the conclusions you are coming to, to see if they are real thoughts. I am wondering how you are townreading that HC post.

to be clear this is not the setting up a push on me part that i townread, just that this comes from my mafia theory that any scum post requires effort to make, and as such "useless" posts are harder to come by

the way hermit is pushing on me is also fine since he was pretty early on it, i think there's a chance some of the silent wagoners are scum (basically like, those who didn't contribute much) but it would have to be once the Gypyx push became established as something serious

[Gypyx]

can't belive i've hit 8k posts on this godforsaken website already

[Gypyx]

Well, i'm at 6 votes and the only wagon, this sounds decently serious to me

and also i guess i kinda was misremembering this, but HC's vote definetly sits on more of the grey area, when saying that i really was more thinking about penguin

[Gypyx]

Uhhh is it weird I think this is town

No it's perfectly normal, keep doing that <3

[Gypyx]

Well, i'm at 6 votes and the only wagon, this sounds decently serious to me

and also i guess i kinda was misremembering this, but HC's vote definetly sits on more of the grey area, when saying that i really was more thinking about penguin

I was wondering where you'd draw the dotted line of potential scum-jumping-on.

HC / Dannflor would be where the dotted line gets drawn imo

[Gypyx]

holy shit what was 10 minutes ago me cooking

[Gypyx]

Yeah idk i've read penguin's posts, forgot about them, reread and i came to a different conclusion lol

[Gypyx]

this game just ended an hour ago, I think gypyx is kind of just outed mafia

100% agree and the reason why I’ve thought so for awhile.

Based off of this post?

yeup

[Gypyx]

I'm leaving now but for the record I did not realize the game gypyx was in had ended when I made the vote, it was solely intended to for the effect of pressure

then I went to check the activity overview and made a fun discovery

For how long was this game on your mind?

[Gypyx]

You would think so...

Gypyx 6 (Lukewarm, wolfbae, morph, Hermit, Dannflor, Penguin)

[Gypyx]

i am curious if Gypyx will explain how much she has read.

Recently i've barely read anything i'll admit

kept an eye on things around the morph guilty, saw this was not going anwhere, kinda killed my momentum but feeling better now

[Gypyx]

ngl i think gypyx susing dunn on page 186 is so weird like ?? it seems so reactive instead of well thought out! an omgus if i've ever seen one LOL

Yeah, an OMGUS

oh my god you're scum

[Gypyx]

Marcistar's posts on this page kinda weird me out

[Gypyx]

You should try using firefox

[Gypyx]

I moved my vote due to the gypyx "townslip"

Both experience and gypyx making it real obvious they simply are not choosing to read the game thread is pretty frustrating regardless of their respective alignments.

I am not really surprised that experience would do that, but Kagerou was so on top of the happenings of the game, so this it is pretty disappointing for gypyx.

I'll probably revisit how much stock I'm gonna put in the gypyx post at some point

Apologies for that, i'm managing to get my head more into this game though and should be able to be more in flow with the thread

[Gypyx]

8 minutes. It's strawberry with a lemon curd and strawberry buttercream! And I'm doing a big sunflower on top for my mother, in gold fondant.

pics or it didn't happen

[Gypyx]

I demand a cop-vention tonight.

I want to be involved in the fun thing, and unlike *seemingly every single person who got one last night* I can use the damn thing lol

liking this post from lukewarm i think

[Gypyx]

Speaking of which, consider my vote on experience (not sure where the VC is currently so not voting just in case). I don’t care to entertain a world where town!experience acknowledges a post in the neighborhood with cop invention targets for everyone but still doesn’t realize that everyone in there has the same role. If he wasn’t reading, would he not question how anyone knew he was an inventor in the first place? Or wonder why EVERYONE had a list for their invention target in the hood? I think he was in a vulnerable position trying to dumbtell for easy town points and it backfired tremendously.

this feels like a gross mischaracterisation of events.
we all knew we were inventors because it was in the name of the hood.
what was

not

in the hood was that we were all

cop

inventors.
it's really getting on my nerves here that today so many people are misinterpreting (hopefully not in bad faith) me having a brainfart and not realising that we weren't just all inventors but

specifically

cop

inventors.

Correct me if i'm wrong but weren't you aware of someone else being a cop inventor too?

[Gypyx]

Also i wanna throw spiffeh into the sun even more for his recent posting

[Gypyx]

Also i wanna throw spiffeh into the sun even more for his recent posting

Lol good luck with that

i'll get you mickey, i'll get you

[Gypyx]

My kingdom for a vig shot

[Gypyx]

actually uh

*kagerou flashbacks*

let's maybe not do that

[Gypyx]

Gypyx do you really think spiffeh!scum hard busses his partner yesterday? It feels like youre throwing shit out there just to lessen how many townreads there are.

I could see experience not knowing we're all cop inventors as legit but tbh i just kinda think hes scum ajyways.

Im curious where cakez and oblivion went off to, no presense and nobodies susing them! I would LOVE to vote there today as well

I mean, yeah, i do think it's possible that someone bussed Brian given how hard he rolled over the floor lol, my other theory would be that cakez was another scum power role but basically there kind of has to be a reason for Brian giving up so hard

[Gypyx]

Cakez are you a member of the mafia

[Gypyx]

Funny how u popped in instantly lol were you reading up?

@gypyx do you think spiffeh really goes against the grain and brings up the brian case first if hes scum then? Usually i feel like scum short of eh shuffle along and join on after someone else puts in the legwork, is this a wrong thought?

i'll admit i didn't look at Spiffeh / Brian associatives directly, so i wouldn't be able to answer you on that, but like, i feel even if the way he brought fowards the brian case seemed unlikely to be partnered with scum, his overall posting is still icky enough to not make my scumread fall off

[Gypyx]

Cakez are you a member of the mafia

Yes

Alright cool

VOTE: SirCakez

[Gypyx]

I think i've already said this but i think experience might be town, don't especially mind if we lim him tho

Is there any reason why scum-in-hood can't just be a copventor like everyone else?

are we assuming the scum in the hood isn't an inventor too? cause that seems unlikely

[Gypyx]

Gypyx do you really think spiffeh!scum hard busses his partner yesterday? It feels like youre throwing shit out there just to lessen how many townreads there are.

I could see experience not knowing we're all cop inventors as legit but tbh i just kinda think hes scum ajyways.

Im curious where cakez and oblivion went off to, no presense and nobodies susing them! I would LOVE to vote there today as well

I mean, yeah, i do think it's possible that someone bussed Brian given how hard he rolled over the floor lol, my other theory would be that cakez was another scum power role but basically there kind of has to be a reason for Brian giving up so hard

Sure, brian probably was bussed, but i'm p sure spiffeh instigated the wagon. Why do you think spiffeh is the one that bussed?

I didn't take spiffeh's Brian push into consideration when scumreading him (cause i wasn't aware of it), so like, i think spiffeh is the one that bussed cause i think spiffeh is scum lol, sorry that's probably not an answer you're gonna like

[Gypyx]

Funny how u popped in instantly lol were you reading up?

@gypyx do you think spiffeh really goes against the grain and brings up the brian case first if hes scum then? Usually i feel like scum short of eh shuffle along and join on after someone else puts in the legwork, is this a wrong thought?

i'll admit i didn't look at Spiffeh / Brian associatives directly, so i wouldn't be able to answer you on that, but like, i feel even if the way he brought fowards the brian case seemed unlikely to be partnered with scum, his overall posting is still icky enough to not make my scumread fall off

Ok but like more specifically what abt it

i'm not in a scumcasing mood today sryyyyy

[Gypyx]

this might or might not be related to me writing two 2k words essays

[Gypyx]

Is it weird that I townread gypyxs Spiffeh push in light of Touhou

stop asking if it's weird to townread me and say the words coward

[Gypyx]

WOW RUDE I'M LIKE RIGHT HERE

[Gypyx]

i think shello is town for saying this but wow can't belive my favorite mafiascum hydra would drag me down like that

[Gypyx]

Sorry >.>
But like you're making a big deal that he's the bussing vote on brian without really knowing anything abt his push

i'm not making a big deal out of it lol, just saying it's not relevant to why i'm sussing him

[Gypyx]

Is it weird that I townread gypyxs Spiffeh push in light of Touhou

Uh yeah i don't think this is townie really, she has a preconceived notion abt spiffeh scum and is just ignoring relevant evidence to fit her worldview

Yes and that’s how I died in touhou

no hard feelings right?

[Gypyx]

Is it weird that I townread gypyxs Spiffeh push in light of Touhou

Uh yeah i don't think this is townie really, she has a preconceived notion abt spiffeh scum and is just ignoring relevant evidence to fit her worldview

Yeah if anything it is in fact >rand scum to continue a tunnel so bullheadedly

You're so scum for saying that lol

[Gypyx]

i litterally don't remeber people saying that

[Gypyx]

look ok i'm bad at the game sorry

[Gypyx]

but at what cost

[Gypyx]

It doesn't know what that help looks like, be it players chatting with it and asking it questions or attempting to do mental models on players with 200 pages of content to... sift through....

It.... yeah. Just yeah.

don't feel forced to read everything, like, 200 pages is a lot for anyone

you want me to summarize everything?

[Gypyx]

Can we please not throw shade at masons

[Gypyx]

It doesn't know what that help looks like, be it players chatting with it and asking it questions or attempting to do mental models on players with 200 pages of content to... sift through....

It.... yeah. Just yeah.

don't feel forced to read everything, like, 200 pages is a lot for anyone

you want me to summarize everything?

It would enjoy seeing you summarize things, if only because it'll help it with your alignment too?

Just realized i shouldn't have offered that given how little i've read lol

basically morph started the day by claiming a hard guilty on shello, shello claimed a role that fit as being clear according to that guilty (vig and oddskeeper, not sure what it does but you can check back i guess)

big blank where i got too busy

Stuff in the dethy hood got quite confused, and most people who got the cop shots can't actually use them

the big pushes are experience and me, both for different flavors of inactivity, experience kinda acted extremely clueless about stuff while my activity this game so far is quite different from my recent town meta

[Gypyx]

When did you realize we were masons?

When you told me you were masons lol

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Experience

i'm down for some bloodshed

[Gypyx]

Gypyx, please don't ignore me!

When did you realize we were masons?

When you told me you were masons lol

Who is "you"? Are you referring to Crab's post claiming to be confirmed town? If so what made you think that was on the level rather than a joke?

oh right um sorry

well, it was way before that, i've seen the whole discussion around me not knowing that potentially being a townslip

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Sunflower

think i like the people pushing for sunflower more than the people pushing for experience

[Gypyx]

Gypyx, please don't ignore me!

When did you realize we were masons?

When you told me you were masons lol

Who is "you"? Are you referring to Crab's post claiming to be confirmed town? If so what made you think that was on the level rather than a joke?

oh right um sorry

well, it was way before that, i've seen the whole discussion around me not knowing that potentially being a townslip

So you're saying you saw HC's claim, then forgot about it when you posted about them leaning town? Then have been seeing people call that a potential townslip and not said anything, continuing to let people think you never saw it in the first place with posts implying that such as 4993 and 4996?

VOTE: Gypyx

Yeah um, sure you've caught me whatever

i didn't see HC's claim when i said i was leaning town on them, that much should be obvious

[Gypyx]

Awooooooooooooo :3

[Gypyx]

can someone who is less stupid than me tell me how our hood is a dethy if the scum almost certainly has a cop inventor ability as well

like how is that something that can be mechanically sorted out in any way

Or we're supposed to find scum the old fashioned way

[Gypyx]

if i remove everyone who has some sort of claimed role from the PL as inventor targets this is the list i am left with

Dunnstral
Gypyx
Spiffeh
Oblivion
SirCakez
PenguinPower
Dannflor
Lukewarm
Firebagel
Cat Scratch Fever

are we good with these names being the pool for tonight?

can I get someone to sign off on this list thanks

it has the Gypyx seal of approval

[Gypyx]

I think dueling sunflower and experience wagons seems like fun

immovable object vs immovable object

[Gypyx]

Can we please not throw shade at masons

And this one too
I think it's because it sounds fake to me

VOTE: gypyx
I'll move back here with that and cuz no one bit on my Firebringer wagon attempt

You're my favorite hater

[Gypyx]

I think dueling sunflower and experience wagons seems like fun

immovable object vs immovable object

i know you haven't read any of the game so ill try not to be too annoyed at this but i have in fact been here

I was trying to be funny while saying "i don't think pitting them together will acheive a lot"

[Gypyx]

I mean, you feel super duper Scummoned right now, my dude.

i have been here since i woke up this morning?

i think morph's point is more about the fact that it's not like you took a 48 hours nap, you could've posted before

[Gypyx]

seems fair !

[Gypyx]

I posted about best friend cause the large normal i was in just ended and had best friends, but since it's not a normal role they had to use informed modifiers

[Gypyx]

something something a scum team caught early on will push each other down to stay afloat

Who is this about?

[Gypyx]

i'm not sussing cakez but also i see what you mean

for the record i'm kinda unsure of who's scum / town in experience / sunflower but am going off of which voters i think are more likely town

am thinking about switching to expe

[Gypyx]

i don't necessarily think that's the scum team but usually when there are 3 people towards the bottom of the PoE in a game this large they don't all scum read each other this hard, it's weird

do you think everyone else in the hood outside sunflower/experience is majorly town?

Not really

in fact if i had to choose i'd probably do wolfbae, but i recognize i can get tunneled in coinflip reads, and it's not like i'll get the thread to agree with me here

[Gypyx]

Is this supposed to be an inconsistency on my part? I don't really care about who dies of expe / sunflower, but it's not like i wanna sit here twiddling my thumbs

[Gypyx]

in fact if i had to choose i'd probably do wolfbae, but i recognize i can get tunneled in coinflip reads, and it's not like i'll get the thread to agree with me here

if you think this i don't know why you aren't trying to figure out which one of or even if both sunflower/experience are town

I trust my own reads less than the thread's collective intelligence

this is kinda due to me not caring about these slots, whether they're both LHF or silent scum

[Gypyx]

ask yourself if this person actually believes in their scumread on me

I mean, if you want i can put on my tinfoil hat and start rambling about how you're scum but i don't think anyone wants that

[Gypyx]

Gypyx, it does seem like you came in while getting wagoned, decided someone wagoning you had to be scum, and did some half-baked analysis and are now tunneling wolfbae for ? reasons even though you're also not confident in your reads

Yeah uh i don't like doing analysis sorry not sorry

Coming out of Touhou upick and large normal 237 (or whatever the number was) i don't hold much stock in my reads, especially these against the grain gutreads, although i've been right before, i'm probably at more of a 50/50 rate

Like, there are 2 Gypyxes you're speaking to, there's the social me trying to keep the game organized, enjoyable and productive, and there's the little feral critter that wants to kill people off of stuff that's hard to describe

[Gypyx]

it was actually 247, so close ! :smh:

[Gypyx]

i think morph is a nightkill immune miller vigilante

[Gypyx]

Honestly my biggest memory with conquest is the boobs jumpscare in the final cutscene

[Gypyx]

Honestly my biggest memory with conquest is the boobs jumpscare in the final cutscene

"Wow that was shocking, I gotta grow me a pair like that"?

Honestly it's more that i viewed it as such exagerrated fanservice i found it funny, but also yeah growing a pair like that would fix me i think

Plus fem!corrin for totally cis reasons™, you know the whole deal

[Gypyx]

Plus playing as*

god i can't type

[Gypyx]

Get a load of this guy who can't even do the ™

[Gypyx]

big loser energy

i think we should policy lim him

[Gypyx]

Well, I'm fully on team Twink over team Bear so... yeah. Samesies.

Anyways Gypyx I know we're shooting the breeze and all, but I did want you do challenge yourself to reads on some of the middle of the pack. (However you deifne middle of the pack is fine)

Like, forget your town reads and scum reads, who is in your middle to be sorted pile? And why?

hmmmm, i think a good middle of the pack pile for me (excluding spiff / wolfbae cause like, we're not gonna get to a lot productive here) would be dannflor / cat scratch fever / dunnstral?

dannflor is IMO pretty damn town, i've went over it for a bit before but the combination of him going with a more supportive style (which would kinda be the opposite of what's needed for scum in the situation they seem to be in) and just overall the small bits of his mindset that have bled through here and there

csf, while i haven't realized it yet, claimed miller, which is always something i towread somewhat (especially in light of the dethy hood) and there's something about her general tone that i really like? i'll probably need to do more, you know, actual follow up on this but that's a slot i feel should get put a tier above

Dunnstral, while i think a lot of his contributions were in parts of the game that i didn't really pay attention to so that could be skewing my read, is imo kinda fitting the bill for someone who would need to be scrutinized a fair bit after we untangle our current problems? I don't see anything that really jumps as towny to me (actually hmmm, 4120 kinda?) and this kind of stance where he's asking a lot of questions but not coming fowards with more is always something that i find scum!aligned

[Gypyx]

Loving the energy gypyx! Keep it up!

UNVOTE:

Thank you anime lady but also i really don't think this does much

[Gypyx]

Loving the energy gypyx! Keep it up!

UNVOTE:

Thank you anime lady but also i really don't think this does much

My love and support doesnt do much for you?

Wow..

Ouch..

I guess i'll just go...

NOO DON'T LEAVE ME I MEANT LIKE THE LITTLE PARAGRAPHS I DID

[Gypyx]

Why are we killing experience over sunflower, again?

I have the same question

especially when our true ennemy, wolfbae, is lurking in the shadows

[Gypyx]

VOTE: wolfbae

the intrusive thoughts

they are strong

[Gypyx]

VOTE: wolfbae

the intrusive thoughts

they are strong

No chance this is happening today, pick Sunflower or Experience (but really just Sunflower)

VOTE: Experience

coming around pretty strongly to the idea that this is TvT so i'll just take the lower impact lim

[Gypyx]

well, it's two LHF slots, so it would not have to take a huge effort for either of them to at least survive today as scum, and yet they're just... not doing that? the way suspicion is kinda floating everywhere without a lot of urgency being felt in the thread also makes me think we don't have scum in the ropes here

[Gypyx]

My gut also says that new katniss needs to be thrown into the furnace when I'm looking at old VC's. This is subject to change, but right now I think I am looking at

{Penguin, Sunflower (it could be experience too, I'm also really not happy about NOONE catching the mech fuckups), (Firebringer/Cakeboy (preference fire now), Bagel}

Which also feels again like the whole sort by postcount and doesn't feel great? i dunno. There's also this tiny part of my brain that's still thinking about why old Katniss said that Pooky died and comparing it with how wolfbae came into the thread with the controversial read on dunn, feeling like it *was* an attempt to shake up the townbloc and immerse into it, but I am not at all confident about it, I just want to speak this into the thread and see what others thought.

yeah um firebagel is town sorry but i'm gonna fight you on that

[Gypyx]

honestly don't get why scum would bother blocking me.

Pet theory that scum's cop inventor doesn't have a sanity and instead always returns no result

why are you choosing to disbelive the masons now?

[Gypyx]

honestly don't get why scum would bother blocking me.

Pet theory that scum's cop inventor doesn't have a sanity and instead always returns no result

why are you choosing to disbelive the masons now?

How did you know that Firebringer received a cop?

That's what i assumed cause i don't think fire would be claimed as a actual PR

egg on my face if i'm wrong, yadda yadda

[Gypyx]

honestly don't get why scum would bother blocking me.

Pet theory that scum's cop inventor doesn't have a sanity and instead always returns no result

why are you choosing to disbelive the masons now?

u think it was a better time to disbelieve it yesterday?

No but that doesn't make today good lol

[Gypyx]

now as opposed to in the future, since i don't think it's like you're necessarily at threat of getting out of the game one way or another

[Gypyx]

should we claim who received the cop shots or no?

[Gypyx]

anyone townreading penguin?

[Gypyx]

Any reason not to just VOTE: Sunflower?

My only concern is that we pretty hard signaled this to be the next elim, and we know there is a bookie :/

There’s a claimed role that can nullify that though, I assumed shello would’ve used it yesterday

We did

[Gypyx]

i can't read LOL

[Gypyx]

Anyways pls someone give me a cop shot

i need to scratch the itch

[Gypyx]

i can't read LOL

No, I did and ebwop lol

what does that mean

[Gypyx]

I don't think it's sunflower

likewise but i can't rlly put a word on why

[Gypyx]

dumb theory : Brian was left to die so easily because all of the mafia members are bus drivers

[Gypyx]

Anyone else feeling like STD's current posting is a bit weird?

LIke, he says a lot of weird ideas, and i don't think town would legitiamtely come up with all of that

[Gypyx]

Anyone else feeling like STD's current posting is a bit weird?

LIke, he says a lot of weird ideas, and i don't think town would legitiamtely come up with all of that

why would i come in as scum with no clout in this game at all and propose preposterous ideas that no one is going to listen to?

so that you can say "guys see i'm trying to solve this" or something, maybe it's not deliberate, maybe you're just not finding what to say as scum and are falling back on that, point is, there are plenty of reasons i could find, and i don't see why town you would go into the thread to, as you've shown awareness of, purposefully post preposterous ideas

[Gypyx]

VC 2.F

experience 11 (Dannflor, CSF, STD, wolfbae, Penguin, Sunflower, Lukewarm, Gypyx, Hermit, Bingle, Firebringer)
Sunflower 4 (Dunnstral, Shello, SirCakez, Spiffeh)
Gypyx 1 (Firebagel)

Not voting - Oblivion, experience, morph, marci

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to win a Darwin Award.

Deadline: (expired on 2024-05-16 20:12:00)

Doing my final double-check of the votes before flipping while also multitasking, please hold...

Votes on wagon i'd look at:

Wolf, penguin, luke, firebringer, sunflower

what about them specifically?

[Gypyx]

also i still have the urge to murder wolfbae

[Gypyx]

Anyone else feeling like STD's current posting is a bit weird?

LIke, he says a lot of weird ideas, and i don't think town would legitiamtely come up with all of that

why would i come in as scum with no clout in this game at all and propose preposterous ideas that no one is going to listen to?

so that you can say "guys see i'm trying to solve this" or something,

does it look i'm trying to solve or trying to get my bearings?

maybe it's not deliberate, maybe you're just not finding what to say as scum and are falling back on that, point is, there are plenty of reasons i could find, and i don't see why town you would go into the thread to, as you've shown awareness of, purposefully post preposterous ideas

try harder i guess? i dunno what to tell you

Well no it doesn't look like you're trying to do that

maybe we work differently, but when trying to get my head into the game, i try to avoid going to the tinfoil hat theories first

[Gypyx]

also i still have the urge to murder wolfbae

why was this again

- ydra

I honestly can't remember which posts it was originally, point is it's kinda his overall tone, for today though i'm not a fan of this whole "i spent 10 pages scumcasing morph and now they're dead, aaaaah woe is me"

it just seems too convinient

i guess i have to be wrong on one of wolf / dragons mechanically, i guess i would say dragons is the town one?

[Gypyx]

why does this game feels like i have 500 posts and when i look at the activity overview it's like "150"

[Gypyx]

Wolfbae, there's word in the streets that cute anime wolves are 50% more likely to roll mafia, what do you have to say to these allegations

[Gypyx]

Wolfbae, there's word in the streets that cute anime wolves are 50% more likely to roll mafia, what do you have to say to these allegations

I wish that were true, being town is painful

FWIW while I get that you scumread me because of OMGUS (which I think makes sense) I stopped thinking you were a wolf before Day 2 ended

I think you are probably just wrong on your reads

My read on you isn't based on OMGUS, or like, not in a self-aware way i guess

since you've been so wrong about morph, don't you think you could also be wrong on me question mark

[Gypyx]

maybe we're all town and there's like 1 scum left

[Gypyx]

I came into this day 67% positive of you being scum but I’m scrapping that lol

-HM

And i love you for that <3

[Gypyx]

hmm shit i like that post from wolf

must decide if i find him actually towny i guess

[Gypyx]

If the dethy hood did not have the mod note about a scum boon, I would also entertain the idea that the dethy hood could be a misdirect.

But the mod note feels like it would be a step too far (beyond just having 5 inventors with 4 unknown sanities), so I am not really entertaining the possibility.

VOTE: sunflower

random could be a sanity too i guess

[Gypyx]

Why did so many people get invaded by thoughts of morph potentially being scum tonight lol

[Gypyx]

unless y'all think marci is mafia, one of the morph!scum belivers in the hood had to be lying knowing fully they were nightkilling morph

who looks the most fake when putting it under that light?

[Gypyx]

One scum guaranteed in {Gypyx, Spiffeh, Oblivion, Luke, Firebagel}, ignoring my current reads, by the way.

-HM

Can i interest you in a scum mouse

[Gypyx]

also like, unless everyone is provable scum can fakeclaim tbh

[Gypyx]

One scum guaranteed in {Gypyx, Spiffeh, Oblivion, Luke, Firebagel}, ignoring my current reads, by the way.

-HM

Can i interest you in a scum mouse

What are your concerns with Spiffeh?

He's an agent of the treacherous count Dooku

[Gypyx]

are you assuming dethyscum is groupscum

why are we thinking it could be traitor again

[Gypyx]

Maybe the real traitor was the friends we made along the way

anyways i really think people are getting lost in the sauce with this game

[Gypyx]

Is it bad that i think we should just massclaim at this point

I mean, i feel that but also what would massclaiming today acheive really

seems like we're still trying to solve the hood puzzle, so, not a lot of new claims to get here

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Save the dragons

STDandmouseSTDandmouseSTDandmouse

[Gypyx]

i don't think masons make sense in this game theme either.
best buddy?

What shell game has best buddy.

If i go by you each individually, hermit I obviously townread you. But that doesn't mean you can't fool me.
Bingle i have not found solving or sorting at all. The most he has done is talk mechanics, and scum him can talk mechanics all day everyday.

i don't think ascetic doctor make sense in this game theme either
protector?

What shell game has someone protecting

[Gypyx]

one day i'll fakeclaim masons as scum and all the people who's doubted claimed masons will be vindicated

[Gypyx]

Heck, why the fuck is there a psychologiste, we're playing a shell game, ceph your flavor sucks, boooo

[Gypyx]

Heck, why the fuck is there a psychologiste, we're playing a shell game, ceph your flavor sucks, boooo

ur just being toxic now, and im disengaging with u

sorryyyyyyyyyy

[Gypyx]

I'm miller

by the way is that like the normal kind of miller where you only show as guilty to cops or something more intricate?

[Gypyx]

Oh by the way, this was way back in D1 when Brian and Cakez were being wagoned. I think given just how many people are struggling to even keep up with the game, I think we can safely assume that scum is not well-coordinated. Therefore, we can safely assume that there is like 1 scum within these people who were not on the major wagon.

VC 1.13

Bingle 2 (Firebringer, Gypyx)
Gypyx 1 (

Bingle

)
Sunflower 1 (Klick)

Not voting (Oblivion,

experience

, Dannflor)

i think it would have to be wolfbae (sorry i always come back to sussing you lol) or oblivion

[Gypyx]

that's true but also you gotta admit that having a flaking scumbuddy doesn't help with coordinating your team

[Gypyx]

you can also keep him in maybe, pretty pls

[Gypyx]

walk me through the oblivion townread?

[Gypyx]

gonna try and take a look at it tommorow ig

[Gypyx]

I don't understand the marci fruit stealing thing. How does her fruit getting stolen also tell her that invention stuff was stolen? And it wasn't clear whether that was the invention she received or the one she was trying to give out?

I have no intention of voting Sunflower and the amount of people expressing similar opinions now, when morph is gone, bothers me. Y'all are more talkative than me, where was your disagreement yesterday? Same for the newfound willingness to suspect Dragons. Gypyx/Dragons especially, feels really theatery.

Do you still think i scumslipped yesterday?

[Gypyx]

i think there's 1 scum in spiffeh/luke/dunn. not really sure who, y'all can figure that out. leaning towards only 1 at this moment but there's been times where i've thought it was 2

why that PoE specifically?

[Gypyx]

How would everyone feel about not killing in the hood today and just taking whatever's the punishement for doing so

[Gypyx]

You already had a Gypyx wagon yesterday, save some of it for later !

[Gypyx]

I would perosnally love a gypyx wagon

Btw penguin when are you gonna start playing the game