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Post #417 (isolation #3) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:26 am
Postby RCEnigma »
Cabd was able to put her finger on exactly what both bell and FB were dancing around when it came to ffer (sorry too many double letters I’m gonna keep it short).
So there is some kind of meld there.
I’m not too far past that moment. But I’d expect some kind of engagement with that if fb or bell were scum letting town reach that kind of conclusion themselves and there hasn’t been any.
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Post #420 (isolation #5) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:35 am
Postby RCEnigma »
I think she’s genuine in not taking the dance seriously. If there’s a track record of early exits via paranoia then the feeling of apathy is a very real thing.
I’m not usually one to play into AtE but I liked it here.
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Post #425 (isolation #8) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:07 am
Postby RCEnigma »
In post 376, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:
Actually I’ll just tell you.
I just think Cabd would be more cautious before talking about dancing fery, is all.
Dude just came back from long hiatus (as there is no such thing as retirement in mafiascum, only hiatus and a longer hiatus) and if he’s scum, dancing town fery would be one hell of his welcome back ride for him.
I see I see. I hadn’t gotten this far but you asking me about my line makes sense.
I don’t have any grasp on ffer’s alignment but it looks like there is some level of expectation that ffer and Cabd would be linked this game regardless.
Just playing devils advocate but I think knowing that going in, Cabd is very capable of playing to that aspect.
Does that invalidate my reason for townreading Cabd? Maybe, I’m gonna do it anyway though.
In post 544, Bell wrote:
Somewhat. I got over the posting rate difference. There are a lot of weaknesses still.
Just asking for clarity. I’ve got a really stupid reason to townread you on and I like the pairing with HST.
This is only slightly this-game relevant, but I have a question for you. In the First FGO game, as Ruler 2 you mentioned 2-3 times that you thought you knew who Alter Ego was. Did you actually have an identity guess there?
Gonna be honest, I barely remember that game. I probably did at the time but I wouldn’t even be able to tell you who I thought it was.
In post 544, Bell wrote:
Somewhat. I got over the posting rate difference. There are a lot of weaknesses still.
Just asking for clarity. I’ve got a really stupid reason to townread you on and I like the pairing with HST.
This is only slightly this-game relevant, but I have a question for you. In the First FGO game, as Ruler 2 you mentioned 2-3 times that you thought you knew who Alter Ego was. Did you actually have an identity guess there?
Gonna be honest, I barely remember that game. I probably did at the time but I wouldn’t even be able to tell you who I thought it was.
Assuming it was you though?
It was. And I highly doubted you would have ID'ed me unless you were an alt of a player from Ye Olde Days of Yore, or spend a lot of times reading dusty games from the MS crypt.
You wouldn’t have been any of my alt guesses. If I was really confident about it or let on being confident about it, then my guess was probably in the handful that is: Nancy, flavor, sky, baezu.
In post 916, skitter30 wrote:
Because if you're town he isn't bussing you, and part of the present scumread is that his early interactions with you felt svs
And if ur town that isnt a thing so that reason for scumreading him isnt really there anymore
(I'm not sure what answer ur looking for from.this question)
There's a lot of scumreading swirling around me. I'm trying to sift out the genuine from the opportunistic, and think about what a weak scum team would be doing about now, too.
Firebringer's read feels genuine to me, however wrong. I'm not sure about yours.
I think it comes down to what kind of scum team we have here.
I think the playerlist is strong enough all around that scum will have some percentage of dangerous players.
I guess motivations also come down to how strong the town team is. Which is why I’m not willing to throw away the idea that FB could be scum here. If LLD is one of the strongest threats to the scum team, 1 for 1 isn’t the absolute worst case scenario. I will give FB some leeway however since the same could be accomplished with another scum player.
In post 878, fferyllt wrote:
Of the unpaired gents so far, I'd most like to see Spiffeh, LavorManos and STD paired.
RCE and Fireisred at the bottom. I don't know what to do with RH9.
Any reason in particular I’m on the bottom?
The short story is you remind me of Ruler II. If I still have concerns at that point, the long story will be fleshed out in my last will and testament.
In what way? Because I’d argue that my play is very dissimilar to the FGO game. Not that I’d be able to refute 3 different players playing 1 slot in an anonymous game.
The world greeted me with both a feverish toddler AND 50k in damages flooding in my basement today.
It's 11:40 PM, I'm on like my 3rd caffeine-weed pill of the day, and I am fucking exhausted.
But out of the goodness of my heart, I will declare thusly: Ffery is so badly missing her old haunts that she's decided to just blitz through all the buzzwords now to get to the meat early. And... groan.... that means my chances for taking the leg up in our perpetual (not mylo fuck that setup) grind are up in smoke.
Lavar I think Cabd articulated well why ffer felt inorganic at this point in the game. On top of that it wasn’t to compound with FB/Bells read.
That being said it gave their reads a more genuine feel. It still holds. That said my bell read has evolved past this but my FB read hasnt.
Also there’s smoke around Ffer so I could be wrong about choosing to read it that way but I don’t know where or in what way.
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Post #1028 (isolation #24) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:54 am
Postby RCEnigma »
Ehh. I was gonna say I’ve only ever seen cakes!scum get overwhelmed with faster paced games and then end up on endless catchups with no agency. Which could happen here.
In post 376, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:
Actually I’ll just tell you.
I just think Cabd would be more cautious before talking about dancing fery, is all.
Dude just came back from long hiatus (as there is no such thing as retirement in mafiascum, only hiatus and a longer hiatus) and if he’s scum, dancing town fery would be one hell of his welcome back ride for him.
I see I see. I hadn’t gotten this far but you asking me about my line makes sense.
I don’t have any grasp on ffer’s alignment but it looks like there is some level of expectation that ffer and Cabd would be linked this game regardless.
Just playing devils advocate but I think knowing that going in, Cabd is very capable of playing to that aspect.
Does that invalidate my reason for townreading Cabd? Maybe, I’m gonna do it anyway though.
This was after me asking him about LLD read, but responded with Cabd read.
In post 1137, Spiffeh wrote:
Of the gentlemen I think I want RCEnigma or LavarManos left out of the dance. The problem is, that seems too easy...
I kinda liked LavarManos's iso, though it's sparse and there's a lot of stuff he hasn't really interacted with so far.
To be fair, he’s really just PoE, nothing stood out to me too much about him.
I do find RCEnigma to be talking “around” people to seem present and I really hate the post where he calls you null but says that scum are posturing around your wagon without naming names.
P.S. I’m joining the ranks of the high tonight but I’ll probably fall asleep before 9 PM ET so I hope there will still be people around to high-post with later on!!!
Gun to head, I’d say FB posturing. I’m unsure about his continued scumread and I’m not getting a good read where I feel like in general by this point I’d be confident on him one way or the other. Like I said it could be just not interacting with FB in any meaningful way.
I’m not keen on playing both sides of the ffer fence so I’m not really making a judgement either way and from the talk around them, it resolves itself with Cabd regardless.
But I will say that ffer is contentious enough that either: ffer is scum caught out for the awkwardness early and the pair of FB- Bell is just town that honed in early, suggests Cabd also being scum trying to dissuade those reads over time. Or town!ffer is getting powered through, fire and fire come to mind but I really like fireisreds talking points in regards to their ffer read and how they’re engaging.
good way to make enemies on both sides but eh whatever makes me “readable” or something like that.
not nearly enough data but slightly lean scummy:
[LLD, cabd, gypyx, rce]
kinda scummy:
[firebringer]
i don't think i would necessarily say that firebringer is my strongest scumread but that may be because im not sure that i have a solid scumread anywhere. previously it was spiffeh for a while but now im less sure on that
I understand that your reads list is probably rightfully not really considering this, but how do you reconcile having Cabd and FB so low when they've both vocally and confidently claimed they will be leaving the dance at some point before endgame? This is something I'd really only expect from town as scum can easily be held accountable for statements like these. Is this something that's reflected in your read on them, or does this not really matter to you?
Not to step in for fire but.
I think you’re ignoring that slots like Cabd,FB,LLD, don’t have a high probability end game route as either alignment. If we can agree on that, an extra phase is a lot more valuable to any of those slots as scum than as town.
Just as a general hypothetical, if you were scum that knew you were exiting what would your play be?
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Post #1416 (isolation #29) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:06 am
Postby RCEnigma »
I’m sure someone exists that can read enchant but I can’t. But I also know he operates really well in a PT setting so I’d be fine with enchant/Ydrasse on a prove it contract.
Also, stronger feelings of cakes!town than I had yesterday.
But right now is not game about being suspicious or not, it's about being likeble.
Previous game where "i was correctly read as town", only reason i was paired because cakes was way worse (somehow), and even then, i got scammed and left the dance late.
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Post #1439 (isolation #32) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:22 am
Postby RCEnigma »
In post 1432, Bell wrote:
I think in general that how everyone is playing points to someone actively coaching a few players since there’s deviations to what I’d expect from them.
I’m not actually sure though, I’m not scum.
This feels like a half thought, I’m still not following.
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Post #1753 (isolation #35) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:12 am
Postby RCEnigma »
In post 1689, Cabd wrote:
Explicitly within a certain time frame, your posting has been a touch more focused on ffery and otherwise muted but once again this is a very unlikely theory because she (gypyx) is still very likely town so moot point.
Err…aren’t you ALSO focused on figuring out ffer’s alignment? Like specifically so?
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Post #1754 (isolation #36) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:15 am
Postby RCEnigma »
In post 1693, Cabd wrote:
I was asked to explain what circumstances my town read of you could decay and what I'd think was happening if you were mafia.
I'm still fairly confident yours is a T-T pairing.
Thought you were shading std for having similar objectives with the decay thing as a preface….I’ll just read first.
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Post #1764 (isolation #37) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:27 am
Postby RCEnigma »
I thought about saccing a lady not named Ydrasse for the extra gent flip but I don’t think fire/cakes flips scum between them. So 2 town for 1 possible scum doesn’t seem great.
In post 1764, RCEnigma wrote:
I thought about saccing a lady not named Ydrasse for the extra gent flip but I don’t think fire/cakes flips scum between them. So 2 town for 1 possible scum doesn’t seem great.
two town for 1 scum wins the game in 13-4
let's say scum kills 2 townies with their only nk, right? 11-4
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Post #1927 (isolation #47) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:17 am
Postby RCEnigma »
It depends on the playerlist and the game I guess. I’ve never been in a dance game but I figured I’d try one. It’s not really my game style and my wim has suffered for it.
In post 1927, RCEnigma wrote:
It depends on the playerlist and the game I guess. I’ve never been in a dance game but I figured I’d try one. It’s not really my game style and my wim has suffered for it.
so it's nai then?
Yeah, mostly.
I’m sure if I had teammates I’d have a sense of letting them down if I don’t get paired.
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Post #2073 (isolation #56) » Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:39 am
Postby RCEnigma »
In post 2062, Enchant wrote:
fire never ever ever picks me because i called them mafia (and they probably are and don't want to just instadie because of my triggerhappyness) so i am willing to throw this one, if they both instaleave.
If you don’t make it I’ll push this for you. If you do make it, I’ll push this with you.
In post 1792, RCEnigma wrote:
Skitter can you go over your rh9 read? Idk if you already have or not.
Sorry i missed this
I feel like he's looking into things / calling out things he thinks are important to solving, and is trying to be helpful towards the broader solving/pairing effort
Any specific instances? I only really remember his input with lld and comparing another dance game they were in.