JOAT uPick | FIN!

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Also, I did post content.
But Ugh.

Can we stop. We're both dead, surely we can stop sniping at eachother for 5 minutes to make the game more readable.

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i dont think its a stretch to think you'd come out of retirement, put on a fancy disguise, stalk our little unaware puppy dog Bell and then try to jump him before he obvtowns himself.

You did this, you did this first!

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Neat.

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Wait, why the fuck did you kill lemon instead of Drew.

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I was going to make a very convincing case that TLO was town because they, somehow reminded me depressingly of my own alt adventure. Right down to the shitty lying that is overtly suspicious as I pretend not to know things I clearly know.

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Sigh.

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Pooky did it. They were nice enough to post it in witness protection.
Because all slips are real.

Who is turtle?
Oh yeah.

Turtle. Turtle.
Turtle. Turtle.
Eh, they do love their gambits. ...I don't see why they'd try to kill Ircher when Drew was fine for their purposes anyway though.

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like wtf how does that pass the balancing department over at

Prism

& Ffery Inc

I found it! I found the answer.

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Oh no. Yeah, HST loves gambits.

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A horrible truth has come to me.

Laplacian is a dirty, filthy alt.

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No wonder I hate this game so much.
There have been like 4-5 alts in here.
Sorry, it's not you, it's my discrimination and attitude toward your disgusting species.

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Reading through these Ircher posts make me less inclined to vote for them.

the last time I yeeted RH for a scumslip tho he flipped town granted this is TL but still it's actually wild how often you lose games on mafiascum because your teammates can't help scumslipping all over themselves

Yeah I was in that game it was crazy.

They said there was only 2 vanilla townies when they were a claimed vanilla townie and 2 vanilla townies were dead. They were town.

I'm not sure why they are so confident in Bell having perspective slipped when they make posts like that themselves.

When catching up I was leaning scum on Pooky because I don't think Bell is mafia and I do think the push has been looking like how Pooky plays as mafia, as Bell has pointed out.

However I think the last few pages where they are pointing out the flaws in Relativistic Harmony's logic looks like Pooky's town game instead.

Well the last game I played where I spoke to a player about their internal logic not making sense they just didn't "get it" when I explained it to them and instead got defensive about their alignment. This happened here

I'm seeing something similar from Relativistic Harmony here. In post 1694 they talk about how, even without the perspective slip, Pooky is obvious town to them, but I say this is them being confused of what they are being accused of here. They initially said there was a perspective slip and so why would they be voting for Pooky. Basically what they are responding with here is trying to defend themselves but not really addressing the points being made... and from my experience this disconnect means they are more likely to be mafia. I was also souring on them while catching up.

VOTE: Relativistic Harmony

sooo dunnstral any objections or thoughts abt my poe?

Realistically ppl im fine with towning d1 are:

Ircher
Hydra (Harmony, Rh9)
Lto
Titus
Firebringer
Sakura
Hst
Bell

The rest are weaker, those being:

Hutao
Joyboy
Laplician
Pooky

sooo hmm

Remove Hydra, Firebringer, Sakura, HST from town - I scumread the first and hard nullread the last 3

I would put Laplician in the top tier. Hu Tao is also null for me.

I've seen light ganski's posts and I don't really agree with their conclusions regarding their reads. I sort of skimmed the actual content as I'm also playing catch-up and don't really want to go back even further to figure out what is going on.

huh, they kind of just shade their entire list of partners in quick succession. If they're scum here.

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Bringing attention to their partners and suspecting them in a row isn't really something Dunn scum does.
They're much more inclined toward a methodical victory than a deep scum game.

I think.

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A horrible truth has come to me.

Laplacian is a dirty, filthy alt.

Nope, not an alt.

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Funny, I came into this day phase scum reading Dunn and changed my mind after 4 minutes of isoing them.

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Did someone ask me about Cabd scum.

I don’t think they’re scum this game because of the neighborhood shenanigans, their utilization of Titus, their clear interest and proactivity etc etc.

Would be super surprised if cabd scum.

I’m near certain he’ll die before end game if we don’t hit scum before then.

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Bad Drew,
Bad.

Also hi Drew.

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Do you have anything in your list of abilities that could explain some of the failed lightning rod sends?

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Ask FF if your result includes the night you use the ability on.

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Er, wouldn’t hu Tao have killed them.

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Oh

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Well, check their abilities.
Oh, and was that the day the shenanigans with HST went d-
Oh.

I see.

Well they lied about checking HST and used their ability elsewhere.

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Cabd, Maria, Hu, and Lap all visited Joyboy at some point this game

….this is helpful isn’t it?
Apologies I wasn’t paying attention.

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Can someone walk me through why/what they did with joyboy?

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Yeah, so, it does indeed have to be one of those three unless..
Uh no I can’t think of anything since pretty sure ninja would still show up. Yeah?

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This point feels mute with Drew’s result.

Either Drew is scum or its cabd, Maria, or laplace.

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Do we have 4 eliminations left?

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Do ninja’s give heart attacks without leaving any wounds? He’s a forensic dude.

Well on the other hand that’s a weird name given forensic doesn’t really apply to visits.
It should have simply documented how they died.

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Laplacian could be lying.
In the same way that Drew could be lying.

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Cabd is the last person on that last I wanna kill.
Since this is pretty obviously their town game.

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*list*

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Full claim maria.

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I did ask nicely!

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Tone is hard to tell in a game of mafia. Do you want to guess Bell or do you want me to claim right away? Who knows, I could be mafia thinking of a fake claim!

I have no idea.

My favorite answer would be innocent child though.

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If it was friendly neighbor aren’t we just back where we started.

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MariaR, I am far too stupid.
It’s not that I don’t love puzzles, I do. If it was just me I would guess all day feeling gradually more ashamed as I kept getting it wrong.

But I’m at work.

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Kill all three P.
Kill all three P.

Robot voice.

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Well, lmk how you wanna town side

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Joking. I have a soft spot for 3p roles.
That can town side.

I usually play 3p like I’d play town.
It works about well as you’d think.

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I would appreciate if you could be as specific as possible with your role, flavor, and abilities Maria.

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Do you have to make it all the way to end game to win?

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I think if Maria is scum and their ability is what they say it is they already lost tbh.

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I meant if Maria is 3 p.

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What’s your flavor related to Hong Kong Maria? Are you a union breaker, a temp worker? A picket crosser?

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G O S H

(prod dodge)

Heh.

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Feel better HST.

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Can I just lurk instead, it looks like I’m cleared.
Or I can just act super scummy and get Pooky killed.
Win-win.

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*looks at pile of posts*
Because I’m scum this game.

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More honestly though I just have school work to do. Plus work, work.

Its been difficult. I would totally make this argument as scum btw. Heck I think I can find a few games where I kind of shut down as scum because of work plus scum = impossible.

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Why would we kill pooky here though?

Do it for our friend Cabd.
I have kill Pooky on repeat in my head and he’s living rent free there.
I need to evict him.

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Yeah, i’m dead inside and out of gas.
Thanks permission for the break Maria.
*rises feet up*

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Excuse me but I’m a tree stump so I get a free ride to elo if the game goes that far.

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VOTE: Laplacian

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VOTE: Maria

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No more alts.

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Where is the bear on the victory conditions?

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Oh, I lost my mind. For a moment there. *whew*

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I was wrong Pooky, I sorry.

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doctor drew is background and I'm just annoyed again. But I dunno.

LTO is slightly off, how the game is engaging with them, how they're engaging with the game. I don't understand why they're drawing people into treating them like they're new, I don't understand why their attention is being placed where it is or intentions. I tend not to let players go by that fill in that sort of "aw shucks, I'm new at this" and "I am a person who hunts, look at me and my statements that show I am hunting and I am relatively straightforward, I have nothing to hide" stereotype that doesn't actually mean anything or make them more scum than anyone else. Hell, they just end up being town. But it's nagging me.

Maid Cafe: I'm just trying to figure out if they're scum off to the side being amused or town curious and trying to correct for personality. Rather, I can't decide.
HSP: Have not looked at them deeply, their initial posts seemed kind of vacuous and unfamiliar to me. They;re developing into something moe traditional and easier to read, but I haven't been focusing n them.
SK: Needs to post more. They do a thing each time they're here. But not very fast. It's minimally responsive, but it doesn't hit wrong.

This is close as I got, basically, I found an alt. But I was not going to guess Cabd in 3 million years.

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I'm going to guess right now that Maria is Elon Musk and she used a black hole

Nice.

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Thank you for modding ff.
That was a lot of work and you made the game smooth.

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Glad you had fun Sakura

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Noted, lol.

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It has been a good year for unions btw.

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I don’t get it! I don’t get the joke!

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A quarter of my town games are massive day one pile ons that I dig my way out of, lol. You played really well Titus you seem to thrive in neighborhoods.