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Post #28 (isolation #1) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:29 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
In post 24, Alisae wrote:
I have a question I wanna think about:
W/ the number of roses, is it worth making people who have guns claim them? I imagine this COULD be a good idea later but not right this minute.
Anyway I'ma go binge one piece goodbye
What is the proposed advantage here?
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Post #37 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:34 pm
Postby Gamma Emerald »
VOTE: malakittens
Still confused and kinda bothered by the suggestion that I’m skilled with mech, I can handle it but I would not say I’ve been pivotal to helping win a game that way
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In post 37, Gamma Emerald wrote:
VOTE: malakittens
Still confused and kinda bothered by the suggestion that I’m skilled with mech, I can handle it but I would not say I’ve been pivotal to helping win a game that way
How does that make them mafia as opposed to just being wrong?
I mainly voted to call attention back to that UNVOTE:
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Post #88 (isolation #7) » Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:35 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Just a reminder since I doubt most people realize this
If all town roses die, town loses no matter the numbers
I think when factoring that in scum have increased incentive to pick rose, to muddy the numbers
Also, I think any rose claims should never specify a night. Leave scum to guess imo.
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In post 90, Enchant wrote:
... Or mafia as clueless as everyone and picked gun to pew pew.
If one mafia is aware it raises the awareness of all of them
How exactly it undermines my statement?
The odds of mafia all bring clueless and picking gun together is reduced by the point that a good player will probably convince the ret to play more strategic
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In post 116, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The odds of mafia all bring clueless and picking gun together is reduced by the point that a good player will probably convince the ret to play more strategic
I don't see why mafia wouldn't all pick gun
This run is different from other runs in that the number if total roses is stated at the started instead of only how many town roses
That gives scum more ability to muddy the waters there
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Post #128 (isolation #14) » Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:01 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
In post 126, Theta Alpine wrote:
no actually
while it is a win condition
mafia do not have to kill all the roses to win
they still have their traditional win condition
Hmmm
Idk, I feel like there’s more complexity here than some people are suggesting, I just don’t have a good idea what exactly could be the case since I don’t know how scum would be thinking
I’ll just issue a blanket “let’s not devise any grand plans today”
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Post #163 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 23, 2023 10:40 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
cool
I think Enchant is scum for another thing, I think his response to being questioned on his pick feels a bit like how re responded in the PYP X/Y HoS_S game we 3 were in
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In post 163, Gamma Emerald wrote:
cool
I think Enchant is scum for another thing, I think his response to being questioned on his pick feels a bit like how re responded in the PYP X/Y HoS_S game we 3 were in
and
aristeia
?
I think Ari is town rn
I think 20% of that read is based on consideration of that game
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Post #269 (isolation #32) » Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:18 pm
Postby Gamma Emerald »
In post 268, Alisae wrote:
I have literally no idea why Wheme made the decisions that he made do we just wanna kill Wheme D1 honestly? Because that seems par for the course for someone like Wheme.
I'm inclined to agree, he's pretty weak scum and he's never really shown interest in improving I think VOTE: WhemeStar
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Post #317 (isolation #37) » Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:36 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
In post 223, Celebloki wrote:
Personally I still think we forget about an Enchant or Wheme wagon until D2 and instead anyone pushing for an Enchant or Wheme wagon are good fodder for a wagon.
VOTE: SirCakez
I still feel like this is trash logic VOTE: Celebloki
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In post 87, Enchant wrote:
I think massclaim is good, so we force everyone who claimed gun to shot each other, because i don't believe Mafia didnt Went full 3 gun fun.
Wheme is conftown, unless atleast one gun claims.
i dont think the claim even makes whem!town any more likely than rand much less conftown
Oh yeah that’s weird in retrospect
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In post 223, Celebloki wrote:
Personally I still think we forget about an Enchant or Wheme wagon until D2 and instead anyone pushing for an Enchant or Wheme wagon are good fodder for a wagon.
VOTE: SirCakez
I still feel like this is trash logic VOTE: Celebloki
VOTE: Cakez
wtf? Do you think I’m chainsawing Cakez, why us your vote a response to me voting Celeb?
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Post #366 (isolation #43) » Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:45 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
I guess the main point I’d like reconciled is what Celeb really means by “pushing”, because I think the initial pushers are not acceptable targets but people who are just riding along might be worth looking into. And Cakez feels like the latter on ISO so I don’t think that’s actually a bad vote, but again, I need Celeb to clarify his intent.
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This is the post that made me decide to go for Cakez over Ari or Ali. Ari started the push and has specific, very established reasons. Ali was engaged a bit in the claim talk and wanting to get rid of guns. Cakez piled on more so for meta'ing Enchant it seems. The vote also came in not long after Ali's. Maybe there was hope there'd be more momentum for a wagon to start that didn't. To me his vote was opportunistic and not from the same place as Ari or Ali.
At this point I'm not making a case on Cakez, I'm just trying a different direction than Enchant. I'll say it again so I'm not mis-represented. I am NOT saying I think Enchant is town and the gun claims are interesting choices to make. I tend to agree with Ali's statement that guns have to die at some point. My stance is just to save them for later.
Okay, that makes sense VOTE: SirCakez
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this is a game where scum knows town will likely have guns as well
and not dying as scum is actually more valuable then one extra kill usually especially when town vig shots will also be hitting town sometimes to compensate
The BP is very situational and very narrow where as a gun is something you will always get value out of. Not to mention guns just provide more dopamine than roses so you will have players just do it for the dopamine. It happens more often than you think in some card games.
except there are also roses
so that gun will not always be providing value
and also
the dopamine thing is also easier to suppress when you have teammates potentially able to come up with a more solid plan
the fact we only have four guns suggests to me it was likely just mostly town
Additionally, I have seen how people act in Among Us, randing scum is enough if a dopamine hit that the gun dopamine is in less demand
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Post #489 (isolation #49) » Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:45 pm
Postby Gamma Emerald »
Scumreads on Enchant and Wheme, townreads on Alisae, Bulge, and Ari, I think I TR you but I haven’t really thought about the big picture yet this game
I think I also feel good about Theta rn
VOTE: Enchant
I was voting Cakez because I wanted to give the Enchant/Wheme situation some space but that post from early on about clearing Wheme makes Enchant a lot more sus + Alisae claiming N1 gun alleviates the need to leave Enchant to shoot Wheme
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Post #526 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:04 am
Postby Gamma Emerald »
I think he was aiming to pass off Wheme as cleared to give him extra mileage in the game, but wasn’t planning on getting his bluff called for not being a rose
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In post 401, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I have a question on the hypothetical massclaim. How would the order be set?
dont love this. gamma has been sidelining a lot this game. page after page of d1 mechtalk always makes my eyes glaze over but at least it sometimes comes from earnest townies. i've accused many people before of intentionally distracting the thread with pointless mech, and i dont think that's what theta or even ari is doing here, but this gamma post does strike me as fuelling a big irrelevant fire in a game with short deadlines.
This feels like an excuse of a read, that’s nowhere near the limit of what I’ve done and responding to only that displeases me
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In post 401, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I have a question on the hypothetical massclaim. How would the order be set?
dont love this. gamma has been sidelining a lot this game. page after page of d1 mechtalk always makes my eyes glaze over but at least it sometimes comes from earnest townies. i've accused many people before of intentionally distracting the thread with pointless mech, and i dont think that's what theta or even ari is doing here, but this gamma post does strike me as fuelling a big irrelevant fire in a game with short deadlines.
This feels like an excuse of a read, that’s nowhere near the limit of what I’ve done and responding to only that displeases me
not sure what else you feel i should have commented on
How about my discussion with Ari?
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