TemporalLich's Grandest Idea uPick [Game Over]

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1899 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:15 pm

What’s cookin’?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1900 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:15 pm

swoop

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1901 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:18 pm

In post 1880, DkKoba wrote: "why are we wagoning eiralox"

im on that wagon

im supposedly suspicious

barely anything breated towards me

that is fear. that is someone who knows their push is wrong tbh.

lest we not forget the scummy way cook used their dayvig on d1, distinctly different from FL's hero shot in that FL was grilling that slot actively.

I think just at face value this is a convincing argument
@koba is there any additional context you think would be useful here?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1909 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:44 pm

In post 1906, Bingle wrote:
In post 1880, DkKoba wrote: "why are we wagoning eiralox"

im on that wagon

im supposedly suspicious

barely anything breated towards me

that is fear. that is someone who knows their push is wrong tbh.

lest we not forget the scummy way cook used their dayvig on d1, distinctly different from FL's hero shot in that FL was grilling that slot actively.
Counter point: likely multiball. Scum probably actually believe their arguments here.

I think from playing as scum in multiball semi-recently, I can say scum can still fudge together an argument for someone else to be scum

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1920 (isolation #4) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:47 am

@Enchant

why are you voting Cook?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1950 (isolation #5) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:15 am

VOTE: Eiralox
For science.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1979 (isolation #6) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:41 am

UNVOTE:

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1999 (isolation #7) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:33 pm

Perfect entrance

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2012 (isolation #8) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:59 am

Can everyone give me like 2 or 3 of their top suspects?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2021 (isolation #9) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:20 am

In post 2015, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2012, Gamma Emerald wrote: Can everyone give me like 2 or 3 of their top suspects?
iternants, cook, whemestar/nono/psyche slot

Why that last one?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:21 pm

Okay I see it now, it’s revolving-door scum
VOTE: WhemeStar

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2089 (isolation #11) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:22 am

In post 2042, Enchant wrote:
In post 2040, MegAzumarill wrote: Enchant,

I understand why you want to oppose the Psyche wagon but ignoring that situation what are your thoughts on the slot's alignment?
Mason is not claim mafia makes mostly, so i am inclined to believe Wheme is town.

Whene isn’t exactly a skilled scum player. This might sound harsh but it’s the truth.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2092 (isolation #12) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:30 am

In post 2051, DkKoba wrote: like im really good at seeing what mason play looks like :\ and this is not it.

I do believe you mostly but you’ve previously stated you have some trouble telling PR tells from scum tells, I just want to know if that’s changed

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2095 (isolation #13) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:38 am

*nods*

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2115 (isolation #14) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:49 am

that was the stupidest fucking mason claim but thankfully there was no shot of scum coasting off of it

Gamma Emerald · Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:24 pm

In post 2123, pisskop wrote: 'I'll power through it' DRkoba thought.

'Ill bend backwards and create a triangle with my body!'

Little did they know that this was percisely what the scum were waiting for.

What the fuck?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2135 (isolation #16) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:34 pm

In post 2133, Cook wrote: “practically mis-eliminate or lose?”

I think the p is for potential

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2136 (isolation #17) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:36 pm

In post 2134, Itinerants wrote: I'm cool with massclaim

-Rat

This matches my position

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2147 (isolation #18) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:09 am

In post 2107, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 2.14
WhemeStar
(7)
- Gamma Emerald, Cook, DkKoba, Bingle, pisskop, Itinerants, Enchant
[EXILED!]

Eiralox (1) - Not_Mafia
Itinerants (1) - Eiralox

Not voting: KatyKimFanClub, MegAzumarill, WhemeStar, ZZZX

With 13 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Deadline is frozen at 2 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until a replacement is found.

KatyKimFanClub is V/LA until Tuesday.

Hmmm I don’t fully know what it means that enchant hammered his lover partner outside of probably memes

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2152 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:12 am

In post 2149, pisskop wrote: It was def a meme, but it probably means that theyre confident enough in their positions

That was my conclusion too
Do you think other mafia were on the wagon?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2154 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:17 am

So you agree with Eiralox? Coolio

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2178 (isolation #21) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:41 am

In post 2167, Itinerants wrote: Okay, I still haven't read properly, can't make my brain focus on it, but I did skim, and... I'm struggling to find real scumreads tbh. Which tells me the slots that lurked out are pretty likely places to look.

Enchant's martyrdom is also very interesting. His role PM doesn't inform of the Lovers aspect, but he did directly reference it with the hammer, so it was a conscious decision that it was worth the trade. Antispew is a weak excuse, because Enchant COULD have backed up the mason fakeclaim instead and coasted off of that for at least a day or two.

So if Enchant HAD done that, who was likely to go over in Wheme's place? Looking through the VCs... Eiralox was the primary wagon before Wheme, I recall having scumpings on IAVH early game, and apparently there's a VT claim?

VOTE: Eiralox

I'd like to know what exactly the role that allegedly got replaced with VT for you was. I assume Lich gave you your slot's picks?

I got my slots picks
Btw did my predecessors claim them? I didn’t see it in the ISO when I first joined

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2179 (isolation #22) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:43 am

In post 2174, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2170, pisskop wrote: idk about bingle.

iterants is fine enough wagon ig
bingle is an easy read. just check bluensek iso. consider that bingle doesnt care about the town. then check what i mentioned day 2: bluesnek bussed itenerants and enchant both to create 'distance' before repping out.

???
Are you claiming bluesnek deliberately voted somewhere with the intent of replacing out and creating distance with it? That’s rule-breaking if you’re correct so that’s a serious allegation.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2218 (isolation #23) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:03 pm

I'm confused rn

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2228 (isolation #24) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 4:09 pm

In post 2220, Cook wrote: the confusing bit is that this invention or a corresponding inventor for it doesn't show up in the gim thread

I think there might be several roles in the GIM thread that basically allow the player to make up whatever

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2229 (isolation #25) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 4:11 pm

In post 2219, Cook wrote: this seems ludicrously unfair for this game, so i decided not to take it

this feels silly btw
regardless, you are specifically saying mafia here. Are you suggesting that's the only groupscum in the setup?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2232 (isolation #26) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 4:43 pm

Does it include names in the PMs?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2237 (isolation #27) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:05 pm

In post 2233, Titus wrote: Wouldn't getting all of the town roles be useless if you were dead?

The info is public

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2239 (isolation #28) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:38 pm

Did Cook explain how he’s sure mafia gave him that invention?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2240 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:38 pm

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2248 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:30 am

In post 2246, MegAzumarill wrote: viewtopic.php?t=59348&start=2090

Here's the role giving these out, that makes Cook clear from being mafia at least.

Took a while to find

That explains why it was allowed ig

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2258 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 5:02 am

How exactly did picks work btw?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2266 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:12 am

In post 2262, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 2258, Gamma Emerald wrote: How exactly did picks work btw?
We picked 1 pick for town. 1 pick for groupscum, 1 was our choice. and 1 was any role but alignment becomes mod disceretion

If your pick wasn't allowed for that faction you got vanilla

So was the GrandEST just for flavor? Idea games where the suffix is -est should have the element of picking alignment from one card and role from another imo.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2269 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:42 am

In post 2267, Cook wrote: yeah this isn't really grand idea upick nor grandest idea upick

it's tlich arbitrarypick

I’m still proud of my “the worst idea” mafia premise
It was grandest idea but tw picked 1/3 of everyone’s cards

Gamma Emerald · Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:37 am

I think there was a general consensus that mass claim is a good idea and that would probably help narrow this down
We would need an order though

Gamma Emerald · Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:14 am

I guess Eiralox is just never gonna claim his veto’d role

Gamma Emerald · Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:31 pm

VOTE: Eiralox
Yeah I don’t really trust him atp

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2365 (isolation #37) » Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:40 pm

In post 2322, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 3.5
Bingle
(5)
- Cook, pisskop, Itinerants, Titus, Elements
[E-1]

Eiralox (1) - Bingle
Itinerants (1) - Eiralox

Not voting: MegAzumarill, Gamma Emerald, ZZZX

With 10 alive it takes 6 to exile.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2023-10-23 17:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

sure, go with that theory

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2369 (isolation #38) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:31 am

I think the answer to that question is abundantly clear

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2385 (isolation #39) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 6:35 am

In post 2381, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2380, Titus wrote:
In post 2371, Elements wrote: it feels like everyone is just waiting to execute bingle
More like indifferent.

I don't like Eiralox or Bingle.
i'm starting to get confused myself i thought i've pocketed you gamma and cook already so that my scumteam can pull things through.

I’ve always had interest in you claiming the veto’d role, but with Cook and MegA claiming powers that verge on gamebreaking and Bingle also stating his role is gamebreaking in some manner, I don’t like the continued refusal to claim what it was.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2389 (isolation #40) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:41 am

In post 2384, Eiralox wrote: Good luck herding people onto itenerants. That leaves Eiralox and Bingle. I might be okay with more pressure on ZZZX but otherwise
i'm happy with the game being slow because it's the most effective way to force scum into an even tighter corner
.

I don’t get this

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2412 (isolation #41) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:52 pm

What’s the upshot there
Also I’m kinda already bored so doing to boring instawin is fine by me

Gamma Emerald · Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:53 pm

In post 2458, Bingle wrote:
In post 2456, Eiralox wrote: probable villager? day 2 gut koba felt like a clear
Are you even trying? Koba is dead. Gamma replaced Yimmy.

I think eir is saying they like Koba’s read on me or something

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2463 (isolation #43) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:15 pm

The continued refusal to claim your veto’d role bothers me and the other claims make me skeptical, and the backtrack on being VT doesn’t feel right

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2473 (isolation #44) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:03 pm

In post 2464, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2463, Gamma Emerald wrote: The continued refusal to claim your veto’d role bothers me and the other claims make me skeptical, and the backtrack on being VT doesn’t feel right
ok so basically fallen for the bingle trap card got ya. any idea why i would choose not to hammer bingle twice and then tell the truth about my role? because i'm starting to regret it as a waste of my time.

-_-
If it’s any consolation I kinda think an itinerants wagon might be doable, Bingle expressed interest so it seems like a possible middle path

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2474 (isolation #45) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:03 pm

In post 2472, pisskop wrote: Id do itinerants

That’s a fourth

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2476 (isolation #46) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:05 pm

VOTE: Itinerants

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2487 (isolation #47) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:14 pm

Why can’t it be both???

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2524 (isolation #48) » Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:07 am

In post 2514, Cook wrote: VOTE: Eiralox

do you stop talking lmao

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2580 (isolation #49) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:24 pm

What on earth

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2584 (isolation #50) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:03 pm

Why are you voting Eiralox?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2619 (isolation #51) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:01 am

Gamma Emerald · Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:40 am

VOTE: Titus

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2652 (isolation #53) » Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:33 pm

okay then, I guess I'm just not allowed to do anything with my role
I think Eiralox cannot be mafia or ww here, and cook cannot be mafia
I think there's at least one more ww and maybe another scum of some variety

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2656 (isolation #54) » Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:50 pm

In post 2653, Cook wrote: what's your role again i'm sorry

it was never claimed but I might as well do it now
I'm a kidnapper, I target someone and if I die at night they die too
I targeted Itinerants n2 and zzzx n3, but obviously nothing came of those. I was hoping scum would kill me since I was widely townread, and I would be able to flip a slot I felt was contentious

also I think whoever submitted the picks really wanted to roll scum, all the picks aside from the forced town one were scum roles, and I feel like kidnapper is what someone who wants to play scum would pick in order to still have a devious role if they didn't get their true desire

Gamma Emerald · Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:37 pm

In post 2664, Eiralox wrote: and truth is kidnapper having another variation and zzzx still not having talked has given me a new shade of paranoia XD

just dont have enough mech knowledge regarding the double kill here probably relying on cook more today

What’s the variation?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:44 pm

I’ve not really played ToS but I used to play on EM
EM sandbox was great (it’s basically ToS’ All Any)

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2678 (isolation #57) » Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:58 pm

In post 2673, Cook wrote: oh my goodness old town of salem

amazing. i've been playing a little tos2, fun stuff, and wow it's changed since even before the game was revealed to the public

i think GIM attracts players from chat mafia for some reason

couldn't put my finger on why exactly

I played a lot of Greater Idea on Pokemon Showdown chat, so I get it

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2680 (isolation #58) » Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:05 pm

I think mafia are all gone, only remaining scum are like, a wolf and maybe something else but we could just have 2 wolves

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2681 (isolation #59) » Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:06 pm

I don’t think it’s 2 wolves tho since the extra kill wasn’t claimed

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2695 (isolation #60) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:44 am

In post 2692, ZZZX wrote: I can confirm though before I full claim that I had done no actions, and that I didnt get any message indicating anything effecting me so no idea.

I tried to lookup a kidnapper in grandest, i expected it to work like a RB or something but it was more interestinf I guess? Are you confirming this is what you mean?

viewtopic.php?p=6261120#p6261120

Also, I will be back later. So no rush

Yup

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2698 (isolation #61) » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:36 pm

VOTE: zzzx
Nothing is happening so I’ll just vote

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2701 (isolation #62) » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:29 pm

because it's what's there
I could also do elements ftr, but that's it

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2708 (isolation #63) » Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:30 pm

I don’t townread elements like I do you and eiralox

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2727 (isolation #64) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:14 am

In post 2709, Cook wrote: i think i understand yeah

do you still have shots of your ability?

Oh this was at me, I do

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2735 (isolation #65) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:21 am

In post 2731, Cook wrote: ...there's no chance there's two mafia left right

2 wolves maybe, but not 2 mafia

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2756 (isolation #66) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:19 am

In post 2740, Cook wrote:
In post 2735, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2731, Cook wrote: ...there's no chance there's two mafia left right
2 wolves maybe, but not 2 mafia
y'think wolves would be popular enough for that?

Perhaps, but I mainly think 2 mafia (which means 5 total to start) would never pass

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2758 (isolation #67) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:27 am

In post 2755, Cook wrote:
In post 2752, Elements wrote:
In post 2751, Cook wrote:
In post 2747, Elements wrote: does it mean we could potentially force the kill on you?
then no, you didn't see it

okay, let's assume there's
3
Town
(me you gamma),
1
Mafia
(ZZZX for this exercise), and an
Alien
(eiralox) or someone with an extra kill, doesn't really matter how they got there

we vote out ZZZX, and then gamma kidnaps me. eiralox shoots gamma, killing both me and her at the same time.

by tomorrow morning, we have:

eiralox (
Alien
) and you (
Town
)

aliens win
yea, that is what I saw

I'm thinking Gamma will target between me and eira
that way you are the only safe kill
seems solid

gamma what do you think of elements' plan
In post 2735, Gamma Emerald wrote: nothing, i'm just pinging it

???

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2761 (isolation #68) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:32 am

I was wondering why you wanted to die with an unused shot but upon looking over your ISO I see where it went

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2766 (isolation #69) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:16 pm

Do you mean sliver cop? That would be anti-town if so

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2769 (isolation #70) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:18 pm

In post 2768, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2766, Gamma Emerald wrote: Do you mean sliver cop? That would be anti-town if so
The unknown role keeps the alignment of the first role they roll, and then they can roll any ability of any role

Okay

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2771 (isolation #71) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:19 pm

UNVOTE:
Has Elements claimed yet?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2778 (isolation #72) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:29 pm

In post 2773, Elements wrote: I'm down to VOTE: eira too

cringe

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2782 (isolation #73) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:17 pm

I lean towards pushing out Elements here

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2784 (isolation #74) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:34 pm

uhhh I don't see the difference
I think the claim feels more dubious than what ZZZX claimed
it's perfectly believable, but it doesn't help us with much

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2823 (isolation #75) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:38 am

In post 2804, Eiralox wrote: Or read that page but just missed that above bit

I think me talking with gamma next few days is important maybe

What’s up?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2824 (isolation #76) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:41 am

I tuned out ZZZX after like 2 posts but he is my pick for who to vote out here

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2831 (isolation #77) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:45 pm

Elements probably

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2832 (isolation #78) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:46 pm

In post 2827, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2823, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2804, Eiralox wrote: Or read that page but just missed that above bit

I think me talking with gamma next few days is important maybe
What’s up?
just paranoid. do you think elements voted like that d3 out of town mentality, or to buddy me and look good on flips?

I’d need to look back, idr their exact voting from D3

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2840 (isolation #79) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:41 pm

In post 2833, Cook wrote:
In post 2831, Gamma Emerald wrote: Elements probably
do you think it's a good idea to use your kidnapper ability on them, assuming zzzx is the other scum

It probably won’t change the outcome
I trust you and Eiralox more than ZZZX and Elements

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2841 (isolation #80) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:42 pm

I’ll probably either not act or target Elements.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2844 (isolation #81) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:37 am

VOTE: ZZZX

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:50 pm

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2882 (isolation #83) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:02 pm

Was that there originally?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2887 (isolation #84) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:25 pm

Was that just for lolz or was there a plan after all? No biggie either way