Micro Theme 1105 | A Questionable (quasi-)Normal game, Vol. II [FIN]

[DrNickRiviera]

Tell me who your alt is or dieeeee

VOTE: DrNick

DrNick doesn't negotiate with terrorists

VOTE: Kay

[DrNickRiviera]

maybe this time ketchup has rolled mafia

anyways, i'm a probably miller? like, idk, there's some fuckery going on with my role, i will not elaborate

Whaaa?

Interesting interesting

I wish I had any idea what this meant lol

look at miller on the mafia wiki in roles

In quasi normal 1 we thought the setup was like a million millers but it turned out to just be useless cops

Boonskies actually did mod a game with a million millers, not cool lol

Kay, I assume you know what a miller is, right?

[DrNickRiviera]

maybe this time ketchup has rolled mafia

anyways, i'm a probably miller? like, idk, there's some fuckery going on with my role, i will not elaborate

Whaaa?

Interesting interesting

I wish I had any idea what this meant lol

look at miller on the mafia wiki in roles

In quasi normal 1 we thought the setup was like a million millers but it turned out to just be useless cops

Boonskies actually did mod a game with a million millers, not cool lol

Kay, I assume you know what a miller is, right?

I’m about to look at the wiki

Also, apologies if that came off as condescending by me

[DrNickRiviera]

I am informed that Jackson is a giant poopy head, though not from the mod....I have an inside source



Enchant aggressively getting votes off of me is not what I had on my 2024 bingo card though

[DrNickRiviera]

However this does buy wolf!jackson two free mislims which is a lot so idk.

or if jackson wolf with nick this could be the hardest bus ever

I mean, I would assume someone would check Jackson over night in the world of one mislim......but I kinda find it hard to believe that we would be just given one scum here.

I am kinda with Enchant here that isn't true, or is just a Gambit, which I feel like would more likely be from town.

[DrNickRiviera]

VOTE: DrNick eh I changed my mind jambit or no jambit lurky slot so far maybe perchance a bit scummy

You really are pushing this Jackson thing aren't you? Are we a bit eager to get ahead of it before a clarification first? If what he claimed is true, I can understand why you would do this hear though.

Also, weekends are never great for me, and generally this time of the day is when I would be more active

[DrNickRiviera]

VOTE: KayJayQueue

that one's a classic

What do you mean?

[DrNickRiviera]

VOTE: KayJayQueue

that one's a classic

What do you mean?

Is it not obvious?

My brain is a bit fried lol, too many long surgeries today

Explain to me like I am drunk

[DrNickRiviera]

VOTE: DrNick eh I changed my mind jambit or no jambit lurky slot so far maybe perchance a bit scummy

You really are pushing this Jackson thing aren't you? Are we a bit eager to get ahead of it before a clarification first? If what he claimed is true, I can understand why you would do this hear though.

Also, weekends are never great for me, and generally this time of the day is when I would be more active

im just bored my guy

Well I am here, let's spice things up then

[DrNickRiviera]

VOTE: DrNick eh I changed my mind jambit or no jambit lurky slot so far maybe perchance a bit scummy

You really are pushing this Jackson thing aren't you? Are we a bit eager to get ahead of it before a clarification first? If what he claimed is true, I can understand why you would do this hear though.

Also, weekends are never great for me, and generally this time of the day is when I would be more active

im just bored my guy

Well I am here, let's spice things up then

if kjq, gypyx and hu tao were lying on a train tracks but you could pull the lever killing enchant and jackson but saving the others would you pull the lever

I would be pulling that lever so fast, mainly because I would take the chance with only two people dying over three.

Ask me this question again in like two days(real days, not game days), and this would be very interesting to think about.

[DrNickRiviera]

Can I shoot Hu as she runs away? Haha

[DrNickRiviera]

Ok, kill Um and exp

Not that I like killing the silent, but I can figure out Kay and Gyp better as time goes on

[DrNickRiviera]

Ok, kill Um and exp

Not that I like killing the silent, but I can figure out Kay and Gyp better as time goes on

I care more about finding out your alt than finding scum lol

(kidding please don’t lim me)

i think i figured it out

dam merciless pagetop snipe poor alianna

Ya think so? PM me post game, and I may or may not be truthful about if you are correct or not

I’m also informed there’s no SK innocent child apparently (even tho I thought that’s like… a given?), and other info I’m withholding until EoD.

That’s all my use for this game, time to do nothing for the rest of the game

lmao bianco trolling

The combined crazy brains of Bianco and Alianna are both a thing of beauty, and a wrecking ball to common good sense

Pre Edit: Loose lips get stitches Jackson, or whatever the phrase is

[DrNickRiviera]

That’s enough mech for this thread already, holyyy whoops. My bad

I have killed men for less..... but usually on the operating table

I for one, want to talk to Gyp a bit more this whole SK business has got me thinking

[DrNickRiviera]

Play like normal, I’ll inject where I feel is necessary with info including a fullclaim at EoD

Is it beneficial to your wincon to actually full claim so early?

[DrNickRiviera]

Lol lol, anyway I think nick is a wolf

I did wear my sheep's clothing today tbf

Also, I am starting to pick up what you are putting down, maybe more than others.

But.....I have questions, hence why I want to talk to Gyp more....and why I asked the question directly to you.

[DrNickRiviera]

Lol lol, anyway I think nick is a wolf

I don’t understaaaaand

Someone tell me where to look on the wiki so I understand wtf is happening lol

I don't think the wiki would help much

But Jackson made a good point, if you are confused with the setup(trust me, I am there many times lol), focus on the game and play it like an actual normal game of mafia.....as normal as this one can be heh

[DrNickRiviera]

Okay I’m obviously way out of my depth here. If we can’t find a wolf and need to lim someone useless, both role-wise and knowledge of the game wise, I feel like dead weight. I really want to be helpful but I feel like everyone is speaking in code and it’s all flying completely over my head.

Game just started, like I said don't focus on the mystery per se.

Forgetting about all that, is there anything that has jumped out at you? Gyp being so vague, Ketchup and I's interaction earlier, Really anything you have questions on besides the mystery?

[DrNickRiviera]

Also, totally though I was on my main when posting that.....whew, I almost reached through my phone screen to stop the message from going through haha

[DrNickRiviera]

Okay I’m obviously way out of my depth here. If we can’t find a wolf and need to lim someone useless, both role-wise and knowledge of the game wise, I feel like dead weight. I really want to be helpful but I feel like everyone is speaking in code and it’s all flying completely over my head.

Game just started, like I said don't focus on the mystery per se.

Forgetting about all that, is there anything that has jumped out at you? Gyp being so vague, Ketchup and I's interaction earlier, Really anything you have questions on besides the mystery?

The only thing I don’t really get (besides almost everything) is why Gypyx voted me. It seemed like she was insinuating there was a specific catalyst that promoted her to vote me. Like if there was a concrete reason or something I did or something secret info I don’t have. She is definitely being vague but I can’t tell if I’m supposed to have picked up on something. Unfortunately I haven’t.

I have no clue what Gyp was on about, like if she wants to vote you fine, even with no reason....cool

But acted like we should know, one of the reasons I want to talk with her directly

Also, I kinda asked it indirectly, but any opinion on Ketchup?

Without going into the mystery, he has posted the most I believe.....

[DrNickRiviera]

Play like normal, I’ll inject where I feel is necessary with info including a fullclaim at EoD

Is it beneficial to your wincon to actually full claim so early?

I probably wasn’t supposed to publicly claim it D1 but yeah it was supposed to be shared

Well I meant the full claim you mentioned for the EOD

And now I am back to being confused a bit heh

[DrNickRiviera]

Ketchup posting the most isn’t surprising to me at all. If anything, he seems less active than I anticipated.

Anything to gather from his interaction with me though?

[DrNickRiviera]

Nick - I’m not even kidding, when this game is over do you think you could kind of deep dive it with me and go over the roles and mechanics so I’m not so clueless next time I attempt to play one of these? Or anyone that doesn’t mind holding my hand through an explanation, I’m not picky with getting help.

Well tbf, this is a closed setup.......so there is some clueless-ness about it

Once the game is over I am sure things will make much more sense(not helping us now I know lol)

Also, I am not the best person to talk mech stuff anyways......the mod and co-mod would be great resources though

[DrNickRiviera]

Who thinks who is scum so far

Well if Jackson is to be believed, than Ketchup.....but I don't think it is as simple as that.

And I keep saying it, but I have some questions for Gyp.....and kinda think they may be being coy for not cool reasons

[DrNickRiviera]

Ok cool, came into some mech speak

Jackson, this is all on you lol

[DrNickRiviera]

I’d say 60% was Jack because it made me go back and reread Enchant. Plus, he straight up said he’s going to just lurk and that helps me in no way. Maybe a couple votes will re-engage him with the game, no matter his alignment. Which is what is most helpful to me.

I don't think Enchant is going to affected by a few votes, is there anything else about Enchant that jumps out at you for being scummy?

[DrNickRiviera]

Hi, I'm starting to read now.

Town pings on Hu, Jackson, Ketchup based on the first couple of pages.

Ok, kill Um and exp

Not that I like killing the silent, but I can figure out Kay and Gyp better as time goes on

That

would

save me the trouble of getting my head into this game but I still think picking on a V/LA player is an ugly move.

I kinda took it as a thought experiment between Ketchup and I, but I mean scum can be V/LA as well

You really think there was serious talk about killing you? Or Exp for that matter?

[DrNickRiviera]

I already said that he felt inconsistent.

Ok I missed that

But how so? I feel like Enchant has been consistent in calling out Jackson, and others for effectively claiming.....unless I missed some posts of theirs

[DrNickRiviera]

mass* claim

Just quoting this as to not quote the bigger post you made

But, I saw Exp's claim while skimming when I could at work, but didn't see it was Enchant who goated it out of him

I gotta some catching up to do it seems

[DrNickRiviera]

So anyway….

VOTE: Enchant

what’s the rationale behind this one

He tells experience to give all his info and then just a bit later makes fun of someone suggesting a mass claim when he was one pushing for info. It’s not consistent.

hmmm i think there’s a difference. experience had already heavily hinted they were informed and practically outed already. Whereas massclaim would reveal lots of us that have not really hinted at what role we have so is a lot more damaging

Ya I am with Ketchup here, Exp heavily hinted at some things......if you are gonna go that far, might as well give it all......and this really isn't Enchant being inconsistent

[DrNickRiviera]

Will it be fair if i claim too?

Unless you can refute someone else, then no

[DrNickRiviera]

Ya I am with Ketchup here

Are you also thinking I’m scum? Because you voted me during rvs but now I’m getting actually accused of being scum so if you agree, I’d also like to know why so I can defend myself.

I was referring to his opinion on Enchant

As far as you go, someone called you and Ketchup a TvT spat, but I find you townier than Ketchup in all this

[DrNickRiviera]

Kay is likely town. Ketchup is probably town. How about we push the focus elsewhere?

I am still not fully getting the 'ketchup is town's reads

[DrNickRiviera]

Didn’t do anything shhhh, let me *illegal word here* you

I could make that sentence mean so many things

I once paid a lady in Reno to *illegal word* me, best weekend of my life.

But I digress

Can I be part of the 3 way masonry?

VOTE: Ketchup

[DrNickRiviera]

i still think ketchup/kay are prob t/t.
so won't vote either.

thx
what about voting umlaut?

So you successfully got someone to sheep this wagon and you don’t seem to care at all that they didn’t really have a good reason for voting. Weird how “yeah sure they haven’t been here much” is acceptable as a sheep vote but I get hounded with questions for a vote that I explained multiple times and then still got sussed afterwards.

Does everyone actually think Umlaut is scum or are you just voting because they aren’t very active? Shouldn’t we get a more concrete read before just limming someone?

I’m just not understanding this course of action unless there’s a reason for it that I’m oblivious to or some info I don’t have that others do.

No matter umlaut's alignment, I can't see a world that Kay is scum here

I specifically want to hear from experience on their vote for umlaut, not gonna bother with a reason from enchant.....and Ketchup doesn't want to give one....

[DrNickRiviera]

i still think ketchup/kay are prob t/t.
so won't vote either.

thx
what about voting umlaut?

So you successfully got someone to sheep this wagon and you don’t seem to care at all that they didn’t really have a good reason for voting. Weird how “yeah sure they haven’t been here much” is acceptable as a sheep vote but I get hounded with questions for a vote that I explained multiple times and then still got sussed afterwards.

Does everyone actually think Umlaut is scum or are you just voting because they aren’t very active? Shouldn’t we get a more concrete read before just limming someone?

I’m just not understanding this course of action unless there’s a reason for it that I’m oblivious to or some info I don’t have that others do.

No matter umlaut's alignment, I can't see a world that Kay is scum here

I specifically want to hear from experience on their vote for umlaut, not gonna bother with a reason from enchant.....and Ketchup doesn't want to give one....

Oh and Hu as well, but strangely feel ok about her

[DrNickRiviera]

If we are going off vibes we vote out umlaut or experience.

What about if we were going off more than just vibes?

I'd vote experience too. Either one. I usually go off vibes tho

I still want umlaut

Where are the good vibes with experience?

[DrNickRiviera]

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Have I asked you yet if this will finally be the game you betray me in it has to even out sometime!

Hu as scum is like your best friend betraying you.......you think you know them, then bam......you were lied to all along

[DrNickRiviera]

0

Using more numerical values.....

What are your vibes on the more active of us?

[DrNickRiviera]

A goofy goober goon cop yes

Does this goofy goober goon cop have anything else to add?

[DrNickRiviera]

Experience town, nick i feel is scum but it's the guttest of all gutreads

It's probably just indigestion

[DrNickRiviera]

We must eliminate omelet

You think that is what gave Gyp indigestion?

[DrNickRiviera]

I’m frustrated that Umlaut remains absent ugh

Jackson is oddly absent as well

Is he still scared of the 3 way?

[DrNickRiviera]

i still think ketchup/kay are prob t/t.
so won't vote either.

thx
what about voting umlaut?

i think i'll be fine with it.
tho moreso due to their lack of presence

do you think you have been present?

probably not that much tbh

mm you only had 10 more posts than Umlaut so is your vote not a little bit hypocritical?

So are you just gonna pressure the lurkers?

[DrNickRiviera]

i still think ketchup/kay are prob t/t.
so won't vote either.

thx
what about voting umlaut?

i think i'll be fine with it.
tho moreso due to their lack of presence

do you think you have been present?

probably not that much tbh

mm you only had 10 more posts than Umlaut so is your vote not a little bit hypocritical?

So are you just gonna pressure the lurkers?

If that gets them to generate content, sure.
KJQ not a lurker tho and I pressured her

Do you wan to lim Kay? Or was is just for pressure?

[DrNickRiviera]

If one claims, that doesn’t make them an IC unless everybody has

Yep I understand

while some of me is scared now that vengeful players may have been playing deliberately scummy, it’s also ok if we eliminate them if they are not functional IC. I imagine we don’t only have 1 VT and 1 vengeful because then we have 2 innocent childs but then again maybe we do? hmmm

umlaut say something

It is like everyone is just waiting for umlaut to say something heh

In the meantime, why is ketchup town again?

[DrNickRiviera]

Would be fair if both ketchup and umlaut claimed then.

Would be even better if Umlaut posted first lol

Also I don't want to be the one to mention that Enchant is again looking for claims.....basically unprompted as well, I wasn't thinking it was a big deal before......but now is a bit of a pattern

[DrNickRiviera]

yip yip yippeeee

UNVOTE:

Is ths this because of my unvote?

Because I am almost certain this claim comes from town

[DrNickRiviera]

yip yip yippeeee

UNVOTE:

Is ths this because of my unvote?

Because I am almost certain this claim comes from town

I am actually a bit curious why Ketchup didn't have any follow up questions for me, and instead was just happy people were unvoting him

[DrNickRiviera]

My role PM also does not include that phrase.

[DrNickRiviera]

There are no Village-aligned Godfathers. And there are exactly 2 werewolves and both informeds

I have the Godfather bit as well, which has made me wonder about Gyp's 'miller like' role(which in a way, the Godfather is like the wolf version of a miller.....as far as investigating goes, someone correct me if I am wrong there).

I also am informed of something else, pertaining to Ketchup, which I basically keep hinting at, yet he is not engaging with me about(besides him being happy I unvoted him, which I did as a type of reaction test)

[DrNickRiviera]

okey

You still awake?

[DrNickRiviera]

okey

You still awake?

Doubt it, he’s usually asleep by now from what I’ve observed of his “going to sleep” posts lol

Ya I kinda figured, I was kinda hoping he would take the bait I was throwing him as far as engaging with him and my reaction test and all.....and yes I am being a bit vague(but I figured he would be picking up what I am putting down.....)

Anywho, any updates thoughts you have?

[DrNickRiviera]

I also am informed of something else, pertaining to Ketchup, which I basically keep hinting at, yet he is not engaging with me about(besides him being happy I unvoted him, which I did as a type of reaction test)

I’m so oblivious. I wonder if I’d even pick up on any hints if I don’t know the role or mechanic that’s being hinted at. Damn.

Oh I have been very vague about it, but I don't want to out everything about my role, and about anyone else's

But talking to Ketchup can potentially lock town him for me

[DrNickRiviera]

I also am informed of something else, pertaining to Ketchup, which I basically keep hinting at, yet he is not engaging with me about(besides him being happy I unvoted him, which I did as a type of reaction test)

I’m so oblivious. I wonder if I’d even pick up on any hints if I don’t know the role or mechanic that’s being hinted at. Damn.

Oh I have been very vague about it, but I don't want to out everything about my role, and about anyone else's

But talking to Ketchup can potentially lock town him for me

Oh, don’t misunderstand, I don’t want you to put your role. I feel like town is giving scum wayyy to much info Day 1. I could be too anxious or just wrong but it just feels like we’re giving away all our secrets which means we can’t use them to catch them in lies later. I understand that outting all info COULD also help us solve…but that’s not certain especially if scum is good at towing or if their role sounds just as plausible as a town claim and we believe the wrong people.

I don't think determining alignment from roles here will be a good strategy heh

[DrNickRiviera]

Okay we should just vote dragon

This vote on you is kinda out of nowhere

[DrNickRiviera]

Yeah. Looks like they just wanted to vote someone with 2 votes already. It's likely a scum slot and we should have eliminated them 3 days ago

I can't parse why they wouldn't want to vote Ketchup though, especially when he said he doesn't like him here

[DrNickRiviera]

Rather than just scumread something strange

Where is your sense of curiousity?

Ok....

Why Hu over Ketchup?

[DrNickRiviera]

Hu tao is just doing pop ins not saying anything

The irony of your slot commenting on activity lol

Why does activity make Ketchup townier than Hu?

Pre Edit: I don't think Ketchup's claim is AI

[DrNickRiviera]

VOTE: std

[DrNickRiviera]

I still don’t like this vote.

I am never a fan of limming a lurker on D1, but I did not like std's entrance at all. And still not sure on Ketchup

[DrNickRiviera]

anyway, wow, we got a wolf! I’d like to think me and nick look very good now

Me because why would I claim the exact same days (101,102,103) as my partner. Nick because umlaut’s opening post felt opportunist to quickwagon nick

Not sure how either of these reasons clear either of us tbf

[DrNickRiviera]

anyway, wow, we got a wolf! I’d like to think me and nick look very good now

Me because why would I claim the exact same days (101,102,103) as my partner. Nick because umlaut’s opening post felt opportunist to quickwagon nick

Not sure how either of these reasons clear either of us tbf

Do you think scum bussed Umlaut?

Well since I think Enchant is pretty clearly town, and I don't buy that you would so hard protect your buddy like you did if you were scum(though you could be a wifom nightmare in end game), I would say that more likely than not scum bussed their buddy

[DrNickRiviera]

anyway, wow, we got a wolf! I’d like to think me and nick look very good now

Me because why would I claim the exact same days (101,102,103) as my partner. Nick because umlaut’s opening post felt opportunist to quickwagon nick

Not sure how either of these reasons clear either of us tbf

Do you think scum bussed Umlaut?

Well since I think Enchant is pretty clearly town, and I don't buy that you would so hard protect your buddy like you did if you were scum(though you could be a wifom nightmare in end game), I would say that more likely than not scum bussed their buddy

I won’t be killed at night so I need to be limmed before elo. Unless we are certain of the second scum, I’d prefer to be the lim today for multiple reasons.

I would prefer to actually lim someone I think is scum over 'a wifom nightmare' as I described you.....who I still think is town......if that makes sense

[DrNickRiviera]

I am mystified

nick and Kay you seem to be missing something major right now

no I won’t say what that is

What are you even on about?

[DrNickRiviera]

i dont think nick claimed anything yet

Well I was a bit cryptic yesterday about it as well, in regards to you

[DrNickRiviera]

so i was confused because unless youre both vt the other should be conftown from your pov
or

I was cryptic, but I think it is obvious I am not a VT

I am still confused a bit lol

[DrNickRiviera]

you, hu tao, nick, i think

ok.
my info says not everybody with that info is aligned with each other.

I wonder if everyone but the VT got this

[DrNickRiviera]

Let’s just kill me today and make it harder for scum tonight. Unless you guys have a good idea of who is lying/whose claim is scum…I don’t see a way to differentiate between them because any role could seemingly be either. Unless I’m missing something.

We don't, have fun.

do you not think my hu Tao point has any merit?

No because your logic is flawed. First flipped scum already showed they were informed. So if I were scum there is no need for me to lie about my informed role since I'd be aware what kind of informed information my partner got even if I weren't informed

I have read this a few times and still don't know what you are trying to say here

[DrNickRiviera]

maybe one of hu/nick/enchant

Could you expand on that? What gives you that feeling?

mostly due to poe.
ketchup and gypyx are both trs for claims, while your actions don't make much sense as scum (to me at least).

maybe one of hu/nick/enchant

Could you expand on that? What gives you that feeling?

mostly due to poe.
ketchup and gypyx are both trs for claims, while your actions don't make much sense as scum (to me at least).

Why do you prefer ketchup and Gypyx claims over everyone else’s?

The irony being my lim pool for today are Gyp...Exp..................Ketchup

Explain the Gyp read some more for me?

[DrNickRiviera]

Nice one lol bottom & top? overachiever mod!!

Altoona is the worst

She will get that reference hehe

[DrNickRiviera]

Nice one lol bottom & top? overachiever mod!!

Altoona is the worst

She will get that reference hehe

I know who you are

And even if you’re not, I’ve fully convinced myself.

Never to good to be too sure about anything

But maybe I have said too much.......

[DrNickRiviera]

Did you think it odd you were told there were 2 wolves Hu tao? Or did it not strike you at the time

Not really. Considering the other information was less helpful

Lol, what is less useful than being informed about something that is already known??

[DrNickRiviera]

Hi everybody! (I wonder if this makes Nick appear)

Who is scum? Let’s figure that out.

I literally just posted, stop stalking me!

Ahem

With the stagnant state right now my brain wants to go to Ketchup, but my gut is having a hard time committing to it.

Opposite problem of sorts with Gyp......I kinda hate her claim and how she has maneuvered this game so far

Actually, I guess not really the opposite sort of problem lol

[DrNickRiviera]

Hi everybody! (I wonder if this makes Nick appear)

Who is scum? Let’s figure that out.

I pondered it more and trust myself. The inconsistency is weird and I townread basically everyone else except gypyx now.

VOTE: Hu Tao

Funny how we feel similar about Gyp though

[DrNickRiviera]

crap I just walked into a chair

You been drinking?

tbh guys I think I will be nked before ElO if scum are scared I get cold info on them

Unless.....

[DrNickRiviera]

anyway yeah don’t lim me today plz that’s bad play regardless of my alignment. thanks (:

This is a weird argument here

Especially since trying to lim Umlaut was a bad play, even though he was scum

[DrNickRiviera]

however if you’re who I think you are you know what I’m thinking of rn from the game where I know you know I know you did the same thing and were town soo

I am either too drunk, or not drunk enough to follow this haha

Maybe link the game and I can figure out if you know who I am lol.....and if this reference applies here

[DrNickRiviera]

anyway yeah don’t lim me today plz that’s bad play regardless of my alignment. thanks (:

Regardless of your alignment? Ummm what

yes you would win if I were wolf here, but I mean like, as I have the potential to out game-winning info in the day before ElO I should never be limmed today

I actually do kinda vibe with this

Pre Edit: I am not drunk lol

And honestly I am curious, plus and seems like a relevant game even if you are incorrect

[DrNickRiviera]

however if you’re who I think you are you know what I’m thinking of rn from the game where I know you know I know you did the same thing and were town soo

I am either too drunk, or not drunk enough to follow this haha

What’s your drink of choice? It’s not whiskey, is it? lol

ahaha yeah I’m with you

More of a beer guy, love a gin and tonic though in the summer

[DrNickRiviera]

you seem to be one of the smartest players on this site, so, I decided yes

She is very smart

I see you just finished a game with Hu as scum......any similarities?

[DrNickRiviera]

anyway yeah don’t lim me today plz that’s bad play regardless of my alignment. thanks (:

Regardless of your alignment? Ummm what

yes you would win if I were wolf here, but I mean like, as I have the potential to out game-winning info in the day before ElO I should never be limmed today

I actually do kinda vibe with this

Pre Edit: I am not drunk lol

And honestly I am curious, plus and seems like a relevant game even if you are incorrect

you want me to just link the game or guess your alt here in describing the thing I mean? I assume just post the game and you can ask for clarification if you want?

Well, post the game....seems more relevant now anyways than my alt

[DrNickRiviera]

your posting style is too unique istg if you’re deliberately impersonating who I think you are you’ve done it to perfection

What is the reference to the game?

This is Bingle btw

[DrNickRiviera]

your posting style is too unique istg if you’re deliberately impersonating who I think you are you’ve done it to perfection

What is the reference to the game?

This is Bingle btw

oop ok sorry I thought you were dr drew

day 1 that game he quickhammered our only (bar innocent child VT) useful power role day 1 as town and I feel limming me today is akin to that

Haha, I can't believed that worked.....part of me wants to keep the ruse going(especially since Bingle is part of the Whiskey Pocket as well)

Yes this is Drew, thought it would be obvious at some point, but anywho...

But I hammered someone(honestly forget who it was at the top of my head) because I thought they were fake claiming.......not sure how that relates here(except that you may actually be a useful role here)

Your claimed role is not entirely similar to mine like they were in that game

[DrNickRiviera]

yeah it’s not a 1:1 mapping but I feel the general point stands that hopefully you learnt from last time not to lim. me (;

(not to lim our claimed investigative PR, which is me)

You aren't claiming my exact role here

[DrNickRiviera]

It is obvious

yes i got there rapido rapido

You did actually lol

[DrNickRiviera]

yeah it’s not a 1:1 mapping but I feel the general point stands that hopefully you learnt from last time not to lim. me (;

(not to lim our claimed investigative PR, which is me)

You aren't claiming my exact role here

Which also I would no have reason to believe there would be another investigator in the previous game at that point

Pre Edit: wait, have I mentioned threesomes before

[DrNickRiviera]

It’s a vibe thing lol

Also the fact that you had Dr in your name…

Was by design, seems a bit too on the nose

Plus I was going to post primarily in DrNick quotes

[DrNickRiviera]

It’s a vibe thing lol

Also the fact that you had Dr in your name…

Was by design, seems a bit too on the nose

Plus I was going to post primarily in DrNick quotes

ohh that’s an actual character I thought you just made up a pseudonym

The Simpson’s!

yeah I’ve never watched it

slander incoming

Oh you better believe that's a paddlin'

[DrNickRiviera]

It’s a vibe thing lol

Also the fact that you had Dr in your name…

Was by design, seems a bit too on the nose

Plus I was going to post primarily in DrNick quotes

ohh that’s an actual character I thought you just made up a pseudonym

The Simpson’s!

yeah I’ve never watched it

slander incoming

Oh you better believe that's a paddlin'

Wrong game!

yadda yadda ongoing game, don't discuss yadda yadda

But I am going to sleep on a Ketchup lim......really am leaning towards it now. Kinda feel he is throwing out all the stops here.....and the previous game he mentioned was so much different a scenario than here

[DrNickRiviera]

VOTE: Ketchup

Sleep is for the weak lol

There is just much here, I can't see town acting in the way that Ketchup is acting

[DrNickRiviera]

And since I am all about revealing it all today haha, I am a JOAT as well

Hence why I was thinking you might be town as well yesterday......and why I wanted to hear more from you.

But when JV(I called him Jackson cause I was initially trying to throw you all off the Drew scent haha), flipped JOAT as well......kinda made me think.....especially with the informed aspect of the game

[DrNickRiviera]

And since I am all about revealing it all today haha, I am a JOAT as well

Hence why I was thinking you might be town as well yesterday......and why I wanted to hear more from you.

But when JV(I called him Jackson cause I was initially trying to throw you all off the Drew scent haha), flipped JOAT as well......kinda made me think.....especially with the informed aspect of the game

What did the Jack flip make you think about? I need a little hand holding here.

The structure of Ketchups role is extremely similar to mine, and I was informed that only one other villager had my role

The structure being the n1-101, n1-102, n1-103....thing

So JV flipping JOAT.....I wondered if there are multiple JOATS(like the previous game that everyone was a cop)..........but I think it is just as simple as Ketchup having the same informed structure

Maybe I am overthinking it? But the simplest explanation is normally the correct one(ie, sometimes enchant is just scum lol)

[DrNickRiviera]

I mean Enchant IS scum sometimes, can’t argue there. I’ve been feeling weird about ketchup all game so I’m probably not the best to bounce this off of but your info seems real.

Lol, the enchant thing was just an inside reference with me and Flavor Leaf, which I think annoys Enchant heh.

This isn't me calling enchant scum here lol

[DrNickRiviera]

And since I am all about revealing it all today haha, I am a JOAT as well

Hence why I was thinking you might be town as well yesterday......and why I wanted to hear more from you.

But when JV(I called him Jackson cause I was initially trying to throw you all off the Drew scent haha), flipped JOAT as well......kinda made me think.....especially with the informed aspect of the game

What did the Jack flip make you think about? I need a little hand holding here.

The structure of Ketchups role is extremely similar to mine, and I was informed that only one other villager had my role

The structure being the n1-101, n1-102, n1-103....thing

So JV flipping JOAT.....I wondered if there are multiple JOATS(like the previous game that everyone was a cop)..........but I think it is just as simple as Ketchup having the same informed structure

Maybe I am overthinking it? But the simplest explanation is normally the correct one(ie, sometimes enchant is just scum lol)

My full claim being that each night I can get information about particular roles. N1 I found out there is a village aligned UB neighbor, N2 I learned Jackson is a JOAT(very important info there haha /s).

I asked Bianco last night for any clarification about what I am informed about, ie that only one other villager shares an aspect of your role(it was a bit vague imo), Bianco wasn't much of a help lol

I think getting info about a JOAT was a bit of a red herring(well obviously since two town JOATs flipped)

So I just think that since Ketchup had the n-101, 102, 103 structure they were the only other villager to have it and I fucked up a bit

I do agree with Enchant that more likely than not everyone in the hood is clear though

[DrNickRiviera]

I asked Bianco last night for any clarification about what I am informed about, ie that only one other villager shares an aspect of your role(it was a bit vague imo), Bianco wasn't much of a help lol

Okay can you try to paraphrase your informed VERY carefully.

There is one element of my role that is shared by only one other villager

[DrNickRiviera]

What is it?

Didn't specify

From what I can gather it would have been being a JOAT(which we know can't be), the structure of being informed(the n1-101, n1-102, n1-103 thing), or being informed about no village aligned GF's

Nothing else about my role PM would apply I don't think

[DrNickRiviera]

Hey Nick. Why should I not vote you? And who are you planning on voting?

VOTE: experience

Answered your second question first lol

I think I have played pretty upfront with my intentions. I didn't say as much since I was trying to hide my main at that point, but I hate limming lurkers on D1, hence why I mainly stayed away from voting Umlaut until Std repped in and then seemed not all that towny with there entrance(also I questioned why experience wasn't getting heat as well since I wasn't sure the intentions of those pushing umlaut yet not experience.....even you admitted it was weird and kinda icky)

Also notice how I pushed Ketchup after he claimed, I was trying to get all I could out of him.....really felt to me like he was flailing towards the end(and even before that). Hindsight I was probably a bit tunneled on my role in relation to his, but I still stand by pushing him(despite his flip)

Also, just kinda poe....I do think Enchant is correct about the hood, and you aren't scum, so gotta be exp(also I understand why I am being voted and might be limmed.....so if you all want me to go first then go for it, I really feel it just ends now with exp)

[DrNickRiviera]

Hey Nick. Why should I not vote you? And who are you planning on voting?

VOTE: experience

Answered your second question first lol

I think I have played pretty upfront with my intentions. I didn't say as much since I was trying to hide my main at that point, but I hate limming lurkers on D1, hence why I mainly stayed away from voting Umlaut until Std repped in and then seemed not all that towny with there entrance(also I questioned why experience wasn't getting heat as well since I wasn't sure the intentions of those pushing umlaut yet not experience.....even you admitted it was weird and kinda icky)

Also notice how I pushed Ketchup after he claimed, I was trying to get all I could out of him.....really felt to me like he was flailing towards the end(and even before that). Hindsight I was probably a bit tunneled on my role in relation to his, but I still stand by pushing him(despite his flip)

Also, just kinda poe....I do think Enchant is correct about the hood, and you aren't scum, so gotta be exp(also I understand why I am being voted and might be limmed.....so if you all want me to go first then go for it, I really feel it just ends now with exp)

I wasn’t just thinking it was icky, I actively voiced being against the lim. Even if you didn’t like the entrance, why did your feeling on lurkers not extend to at least waiting for a claim from STD?

Also, I still stand by limming ketchup. I think it was helpful to get him out of the way and also the nk being gypyx helped me a lot. And if I wasn’t going to be limmed, I preferred ketchup since he was distracting, imo, from the solving and I couldn’t trust him.

I’d love a case on experience. Why don’t you trust his info, do you think it’s made up? He had the same nights modifier as Ketchup and ketchup and Jack were both joat so which part of your role do you think is explained by only one other town having the same as you? I might’ve missed this.

To answer your last paragraph, yes.......if it isn't the JOAT thing that the informed part of my role refers to, it is either the structure of our informed ability.....or being informed of no village GFs

Didn't multiple people have that last part?

[DrNickRiviera]

after misremembering it as the latter

Okay just to be completely clear your role does NOT include 1-101, 1-102, is the correct?

i read it the wrong way round.
i meant to say that it did include night 1-101,1-102,1-103.

If we lim Nick and he’s town, what would your theory be as to who is scum? Because if this happens, at this point, you would be the vote. Do you have any reads that would explain you being town and someone else being scum if Nick flips town?

i guess it depends on the my last informed result.
as it should give me a clue on enchant's alignment based on how my current results have been formatted and their claim.

'I gotta stay alive until tomorrow, then I can fake something for you'