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We are at 5 players.In post 20, Aureal wrote: Hmm? It's a reference
Mafia unlikely to be alone.
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Basically you voting at ELO xd lmaoWizard-Mercenary
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VOTE: Flavor Leaf
I am not letting you.Wizard-Mercenary
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UNVOTE:
I just wondered.
What if by "game confirmed to last 2 days" mod meant two REAL days, not game ones.
Hmmmmmm.
E: fixed broken formatting (the closing [/unvote] tag was missing)Last edited by biancospino on Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.Wizard-Mercenary
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Holy shit it's ruinedWizard-Mercenary
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K, so i chilled.
FL claimed unique role. With 5 players, that shouldn't be hard to get CC
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Mafia has compulsive actions for two nights.
I guess they are LAZY COMPULSIVE to let them get back at town if elimmed.
But I don't get how mafia will be forced to kill one of each other if we elim town.
So maybe that's something we should do.Wizard-Mercenary
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How if they have compulsive actions. They can't multitask thus can't use compulsive action.In post 130, Flavor Leaf wrote: It could be as simple as scum having something in their scum PT that says if town is eliminated day 1, you must kill one of yourselves.
Or the like
Only way to guarantee a Day 2 in a 5p game like that.
They need to break role restriction, to do that.
I need to read wiki hold up.Wizard-Mercenary
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It's confirmed that game will last until D2.
Techically speaking, nothing prevents us from voting townie out, mafia not dying and then glorious "hey mafia at parity but i won't end game for now, cuz i promised".Wizard-Mercenary
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Okay.
Mafia have compulsive action for two nights.
Why there's second night of compulsive action. It really doesn't matter. Unless...Wizard-Mercenary
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Honestly amount of bullshit variants are so high, i won't count them.
I think no-lim... Kinda safe.
If mafia lazy compulsive they will keep being lazy and thus forced to act. Thus probably couldn't kill.
Maybe we can pull this one even twice, but eh, there's little point.Wizard-Mercenary
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Odd night vig looks interesting now.Wizard-Mercenary
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Unless it's another lame jokeWizard-Mercenary
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Are you standing with your VT claim.In post 147, Flavor Leaf wrote: think it's aureal and drew?Wizard-Mercenary
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I just remembered that i helped bianco to get some setup going in normal and it had almost same premise.
... It didn't fill.
Maybe this one is attempt to cut corners. But i am not betting at that, otherwise I wouldn't be allowed to play here, due me almost knowing setup. Still grey area to talk about it in case i am wrong, but i know how we solved this problem.Wizard-Mercenary
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I mean yeah FL claimed redirector but FL is also known bullshitter.Wizard-Mercenary
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It is.In post 159, JacksonVirgo wrote:
That's not my problemIn post 157, Enchant wrote: I mean yeah FL claimed redirector but FL is also known bullshitter.
If anything you trying to kill someone else cuz FL confirmed is very shortsighted.
You never win 1vs1 with FL. It's silly regardless of spread of your alignments really.Wizard-Mercenary
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You of course can then fart "oh i was right you was wrong" but town still lose.Wizard-Mercenary
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Please refer who you ask.In post 163, Flavor Leaf wrote: multitasking also isnt used anymore in normals so why you stuck on just the redirector?Wizard-Mercenary
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It's more question if that lie did help us in that game.
If we quickhammered doctor, it would cost two misses, and ultimately me being alive didn't change things.
Not gonna analyse, but i think, you would achieve same success without lie.Wizard-Mercenary
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Still failure of achievement it with honest means. But i guess that truth.In post 189, Flavor Leaf wrote:
You and I became conf town after it, whereas before you and I were on the chopping block.In post 186, Enchant wrote: It's more question if that lie did help us in that game.
If we quickhammered doctor, it would cost two misses, and ultimately me being alive didn't change things.
Not gonna analyse, but i think, you would achieve same success without lie.
Naturally i am not sure if this is exact game where you decided to weaponise your lying. And it kinda looks like lie for lie sake, most of time you had some secret purpose.
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ahahahahahhahahahahahhaaWizard-Mercenary
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Can we get extension with this SURPRISING rule please?In post 201, biancospino wrote:Wizard-Mercenary
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Ok so, i dived.
Of course assumption "mafia simple told to kill self if town ded" is reasonable but i am not really happy with it as it's lame and not Bianco way.
First thing to remember: The fact that mafia is compulsive, doesn't mean they are in fact compulsive. I know it sounds weird on paper but it is truth.
Mafia Kills can be affected with passives as well.
Simultaneous can't allow you to use Role AND Mafia kill (it just allow you to use more role abilities instead of just one, you still need to choose). Mafia can avoid this by being Vigilantes so not throw out completely.
I looked all normal roles at this moment:
Action Detector, Alien, Babysitter, Bodyguard,Checker, Commuter,Cop,Detective, Doctor,Finder,Follower,Fruit Vendor,Goon Cop,Gunsmith, Hider,Inspector, Inventor, Jack-of-all-trades, Jailkeeper,Messenger,Modifier Cop,Motion Detector,Neapolitan,Neighborizer,Ninja,Observer,Psychologist,PT Cop,Reporter, Roleblocker,Role Cop, Rolestopper,Role Guard,Role Watcher,Security Guard, Shield, Strengthener,Tracker,Traffic Analyst,Universal Finder,Vanilla,Vanilla Cop, Vigilante,Visionary, Visitor,Watcher
Passive:
Ascetic,Backup, Bulletproof,Companion, Enabler,Encryptor,Informed, Macho,Neighbor, Role-Immune, Universal Backup
Godfather, Juggernaut, Traitor
Activated,Announcing, Any Night Specific (Odd-Night, Night X, Novice), Combined, Complex, Compulsive, Disloyal, Indecisive, Lazy,Loud, Loyal, Non-Consecutive Night, Personal, Roaming, Simple, Simultaneous,Stealthy, Strongwilled, Weak, X-shot
I exluded town only roles automatically.
Grey are Pure Investigative. They can't have effect unless modifiers intervened so ignore.
Poo colored are Neighborizer, Neighbour and Messenger because they are bad.
Yellow are those which are not investigative but can't influence without modifiers so ignore.
And if you ask me why i bothered. Well, i considered no-lim until that announcement now i just don't want to waste it. I in fact got pedited on preview. I will look at this and try to understand how mafia suddenly would want to die after town elim, but that's for future.Wizard-Mercenary
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Thanks!In post 205, biancospino wrote:Sure, that's only fair. The deadline will be extended by 24 hours. The countdown in VCs will be retroactively updated.Wizard-Mercenary
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Bet you didn't even read my post.Wizard-Mercenary
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When i runned double agency (game with extremely high scum-to-town ratio) that's literally what mafia did.In post 227, Aureal wrote:
Sure there is reasonsIn post 218, Flavor Leaf wrote: Zero cases for why I would be scum other than me trolling by the way.
JV and Aureal both were voting before I came into the game, and stayed on me because it was easiest to do, but there really isn’t any reasons.
Like, it was funny!
That's always a good one
You can't seriously think both scum would just decide to gang up on you before you even enter the thread. Why do you get to troll for reactions but I don't?Wizard-Mercenary
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Okay listen i am not mad.
Mafia Shield-Enabler Compulsive Lazy Combined-Vigilante-Disloyal Bodyguard always forced to either kill self via attack on townie with bodyguard or kills teammate AND if alive, forces teammate to use Shield (and thus avoiding usage of NK).
Teammate is Compulsive Shield (can be changed for any other role but then Enabler in teammate should be corrected). If teammate is dead, then Shield part disabled and can NK normally. If dead, then Lazy Combined Vigilante-Disloayl Bodyguard disabled.
... It gives us nothing. Glorious waste of time.
But i am happy.Wizard-Mercenary
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Thanks for fruit (basket) i guess.Wizard-Mercenary
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Massclaim?Wizard-Mercenary
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Yes.In post 249, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Oh u got it too?In post 246, Enchant wrote: Thanks for fruit (basket) i guess.
I think it should be easy game then. I highly doubt mafia are just double of fruit vendors.Wizard-Mercenary
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... Hmmmmmmm. Not voting you yet.Wizard-Mercenary
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As i said, i highly doubt mafia received doubled role. And because you can't kinda send it to self and i didn't send it to you.In post 253, JacksonVirgo wrote: Oh ur thinking it's me? That's depressing, what should the claim order be?
Obviously i want to hear Aureal first. Maybe she will not confirm that.Wizard-Mercenary
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Idk.In post 255, JacksonVirgo wrote: Why would I lie about this?
Aureal
Jackson
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Gonna think about it, but there's really just 3 days of waiting so not really much time.In post 257, JacksonVirgo wrote: Why would I be the one to call out FL's fakeclaim in a world where FL isn't planning to suicide, why would I plan to have FL die before me as he's much better than I am at playing as a wolf. Why would I fake-claim getting a piece of fruit, what purpose would that serve.
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ps right answer is noWizard-Mercenary
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Probably would be bannable for "outside influence" so just imagine you have one.In post 262, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Do I get a cookie?In post 260, Enchant wrote: ps right answer is noWizard-Mercenary
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Eh. You probably should prepare case on Aureal just in case.
I struggle to see you as town. That hammer looked weird for mafia team to do.
I will try tho.Wizard-Mercenary
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Feels like too blatant.Wizard-Mercenary
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K let's just wait for massclaim then think.Wizard-Mercenary
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I am Night 1 Informed that there's no village aligned fruit vendors.Wizard-Mercenary
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Mafia not multitasking.
FL not weak.
Where fruits come from.Wizard-Mercenary
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Nothing forces Flavor to shield teammate.
Something wrong with teammate.Wizard-Mercenary
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teammate prob is simultaneous combined vig+BG AND fruit vendor.Wizard-Mercenary
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Counterquestion, is there harm in mech talk?In post 283, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Do you genuinely think mech talk even matters?In post 281, Enchant wrote: Nothing forces Flavor to shield teammate.
Something wrong with teammate.Wizard-Mercenary
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Oh well, i said fruit vendor must be town and Aureal didn't confirm self as one.
Why not? It "could" lead to ez win theorically.Wizard-Mercenary
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Bah, it would contradict my words, because if you received fruit, then Aureal obviously gived it and "thus" town.In post 291, JacksonVirgo wrote: You already stated you're against me, you should have done the inverseWizard-Mercenary
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Probably shouldn't presume you could lie about claiming fruits.
... Or mafia knew i am informed from start.Wizard-Mercenary
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Blah spotting redirector claim in normal game as fake, it will be called instantly by any player reading mod post.
FL lie was lie for lie sake because FL is lying liar.Wizard-Mercenary
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Btw i was mostly on your side, i only speaked against to trick Aureal.
That hammer was cheeeky.Wizard-Mercenary
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I think she are coached or something.Wizard-Mercenary
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Fun fact i also check thread i just see no point.
I don't want to make first move.Wizard-Mercenary
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Jackson attacks me every game.Wizard-Mercenary
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You unironically want to say that town has 3 VTs in this game, and i am mafia fakeclaiming?
Bruh.Wizard-Mercenary
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Both, why you are not voting each other alread.yWizard-Mercenary
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Fuck this i am coinflipping thenWizard-Mercenary
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I joked.Wizard-Mercenary
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