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Post #83 (isolation #2) » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:38 pm
Postby Frogs »
In post 82, Aureal wrote:
Clearly I need people I can banter with too. *scans player list* Black! Kawaii! Wavelength! I demand that you engage in banter with me using our incredible history of playing in one game with me so we can confuse the others!
{Black, Hebi} 1 wolf max, 0 wolf min, mostly cuz I like they voted Black.
Me specifically I don't got one right now. You're probably better than reading Hebi than I am and my last time playing with wolf!Hebi was a game your modded where I failed completely at reading her. I'll probably try to form a read later or recognize that you're probably better at reading Hebi than I am and follow you later.
In post 82, Aureal wrote:
Clearly I need people I can banter with too. *scans player list* Black! Kawaii! Wavelength! I demand that you engage in banter with me using our incredible history of playing in one game with me so we can confuse the others!
I do not remember you being this demanding in our game and the Aureal I know and love would give the milk his birthday present. Did you roll wolf this game?
In post 96, Black wrote:
The milk is already profusely crying the least we can do is give him his hebi wagon
I cannot help of course because team animals but you understand
In post 109, Black wrote:
Hebi already in too deep. Maybe you should have kicked off your reunion tour with a Newbie
In post 112, Black wrote:
Does she actually have a scumread on you or was she fishing for reactions in RVS? It's hard for me to tell
In post 221, Aureal wrote:
Okay, so why bring LLD and Grey up when I asked without referring to your own read?
Because my read is very weak and the two of them have a personal relationship with hebi so idk, it just feels like their reads are probably more solidified than mine
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Post #238 (isolation #14) » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:32 am
Postby Frogs »
Sure, later today being after a more developed D1.
Again, you're probably better at reading the player than I am so I don't mind being the team player here
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Post #311 (isolation #19) » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:50 pm
Postby Frogs »
to me Black just feels like they are drifting in the waves of the thread, getting pushed around like a piece of driftwood. i don't see the town drive or thought process going on anywhere.
In post 231, Black wrote:
Sure. I am always down to pressure kawaii
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Post #313 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:52 pm
Postby Frogs »
i think 301 is also a terrible post
porkens goes in listing all of these NAI comments on posts acting like they are good reasons to think Black is town when like...none of them are.
In post 311, Frogs wrote:
to me Black just feels like they are drifting in the waves of the thread, getting pushed around like a piece of driftwood. i don't see the town drive or thought process going on anywhere.
In post 231, Black wrote:
Sure. I am always down to pressure kawaii
VOTE: Kawaii
this post pinged me the hardest
-cakez
Black knows me so I don't feel this is scum motivated, I feel it's town motivated to pressure me since we played b4, feels town to be drifting initially, I do feel town thought with questioning even if drive might be so-so
I do believe Black feels semi lost though in a way she didn't feel b4
couldn't Black be taking advantage of this to buy towncred with you? i guess it's just WIFOM at that point
In post 411, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Do you start with anyone in your hood who can corroborate its existance?
No one in my hood but I do have other people in my faction. Not gonna out them since our win con is specifically "achieve numerical parity with all other teams" and it'd probably hurt their chances if I outed.
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Post #434 (isolation #31) » Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:46 pm
Postby Frogs »
o wait ya i liked lld outing it was grey
maybe she does this as wolf
but that sounds like the kind of thing lld would want to keep to herself if she's a wolf
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Post #444 (isolation #35) » Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:54 pm
Postby Frogs »
I'll probs be voting Hebi again later
Power has returned and I remembered somethings I wanted to say to porkerns
might as well give what I missed an actual read
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Post #449 (isolation #36) » Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:59 pm
Postby Frogs »
In post 280, Porkens wrote:
I don't see a town motivated reason why Aureal unvotes hebichan in 91. At that point, I don't have a strong townread on hebichan. Aureal doesn't express one either. Why not wagon hebichan? Someone at Y-2 is kinda the end of RVS in my opinion, but Aureal seems to be sticking with goofiness at that point. Regardless of hebichan's alignment, I scumread Aureal for this. hebi's omgus vote on aureal is bad too.
In post 285, xyzzy wrote:
224 is pretty silly. E-2 is, as a matter of fact, not the same thing as E-0. there are situations where putting the game at E-2 as town would be incredibly reckless and would be a reason to read me as scum. that wasn't one.
They are a newer player
Newer players see big wagon, new player gets scared.
Aureal going for xyzzy over me is noted but any seasoned player doesn't mind the 2 e-2 wagons there and probably wouldn't mind building them up to e-1. A newer player probably wants to get off there. Too scary.
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Post #451 (isolation #37) » Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:00 pm
Postby Frogs »
In post 280, Porkens wrote:
Similarly don't like Frogs' vote on black and I don't see the relevance of the quoted posts.(235)
I didn't go out of my way of explaining every problem I had with them.
The top of the spoiler explains the gist, but since you explained how you got your strong town vibes, I can explain how I got scumvibes from it.
In post 82, Aureal wrote:
Clearly I need people I can banter with too. *scans player list* Black! Kawaii! Wavelength! I demand that you engage in banter with me using our incredible history of playing in one game with me so we can confuse the others!
I do not remember you being this demanding in our game and the Aureal I know and love would give the milk his birthday present. Did you roll wolf this game?
Setting up a fos on Aureal
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In post 96, Black wrote:
The milk is already profusely crying the least we can do is give him his hebi wagon
I cannot help of course because team animals but you understand
pushing more for hebi
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In post 109, Black wrote:
Hebi already in too deep. Maybe you should have kicked off your reunion tour with a Newbie
post has no purpose but to harass.
not saying it is harassment, Black is a nice individual, but I just see this and I see it as a wolf posting in way to try to maintain the status quo
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In post 112, Black wrote:
Does she actually have a scumread on you or was she fishing for reactions in RVS? It's hard for me to tell
This looks like boxing Hebi in. I would ask this question as a way to try to twist what she says and use it against her.
You for asking this and not giving your own answer
Shading.
I think it's easy to buy this as a town thought, but I actually see it as the opposite.
Why would Kokichi have to give their own answer right away?
I just see this as an easy thing for a wolf to try to attack.
In post 221, Aureal wrote:
Okay, so why bring LLD and Grey up when I asked without referring to your own read?
Because my read is very weak and the two of them have a personal relationship with hebi so idk, it just feels like their reads are probably more solidified than mine
In post 231, Black wrote:
Sure. I am always down to pressure kawaii
VOTE: Kawaii
I have this here because I want to point out how Black has been moving her vote around and I want to say it's wolf indicative. The way she's been moving her vote around look like she's playing the thread by ear
In post 311, Frogs wrote:
to me Black just feels like they are drifting in the waves of the thread, getting pushed around like a piece of driftwood. i don't see the town drive or thought process going on anywhere.
In post 231, Black wrote:
Sure. I am always down to pressure kawaii
VOTE: Kawaii
this post pinged me the hardest
-cakez
Black knows me so I don't feel this is scum motivated, I feel it's town motivated to pressure me since we played b4, feels town to be drifting initially, I do feel town thought with questioning even if drive might be so-so
I do believe Black feels semi lost though in a way she didn't feel b4
The pressure doesn't do anything
it's not productive
it doesn't go anywhere
it's a useless vote
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Post #482 (isolation #44) » Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:15 pm
Postby Frogs »
In post 480, Rogue wrote:
For instance, this seems like a lot of “they are trying to solve and hunt” but scum would also know they have to solve and hunt. Typically multiball means reduced groupscum size.
So are you saying wolves knew it was multiball from the start?
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Post #493 (isolation #46) » Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:18 pm
Postby Frogs »
In post 333, Black wrote:
I agree with hebi's 307 - this could come from wolf!Porkens but I am feeling it is more town motivated
Kawaii's 305 feels more informed than anything Porkens has said imo. I am not sure how Porkens and I are definitely town here and the extra Koki townread seems random. 310 feels informed too
cakez 299 and 311 feels sideliney, saying there is no town thought process behind my posts but not pointing out any examples except a pressure vote on kawaii?
In post 313, Frogs wrote:
Porkens goes in listing all of these NAI comments on posts acting like they are good reasons to think Black is town when like...none of them are.
Porkens has provided more reasons for town!Black than your slot has provided for wolf!Black. Ali posted a bunch of quotes and said they feel like wolf but no reasoning, and now you are doing similarly here
In post 314, KawaiiKame wrote:
I do believe Black feels semi lost though in a way she didn't feel b4
I have a feeling it is the lack of contractions. Maybe I sound robotic to you XD
In post 327, hebichan wrote:
I feel most confident of scum in one of black/porkens still, kokichi is pretty weak iso but he's been gone awhile.
Your initial vote on me was pressure but now I am your most confident scumread, along with the person that townreads me? That is quite the progression. I think you should elaborate on your scumreads of Porkens and I
This isn't a post written by someone who wants to be right
In post 516, Aureal wrote:
What if she's mafia who thought there was a 3P and that's why she went all-out on hebi? Wouldn't mafia want to figure out the 3P, maybe even moreso than town who's just clueless to its existence?
If she doesn’t kill groupscum by like day three we can revisit
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Post #572 (isolation #59) » Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:53 pm
Postby Frogs »
I mean I think Black is just a wolf
I basically say ya voting Hebi is the optimal play earlier.
Anyone could like Grey for saying that a Hebi elim is not a town elim. I don't think this is a particularly alignment indicative statement for Grey.