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VOTE: outoforder-
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luca blight feels towny-
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Curious, i personally got town vibes from lucaIn post 139, outoforder wrote:
this guy is prolly scum.In post 98, Luca Blight wrote:In post 96, Dannflor wrote: UNVOTE: welp i got nothing from all that except a stronger confidence in DarthPunk as town
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i never voted my partner in RVSIn post 225, gob wrote: There is intent in RVS stage. The mafia commonly vote their partner in RVS stage to "distance."-
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also sorry, i went down with a migraine-
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Well, i wasnt feeling well yesterday and so i wasnt really in mood for this game.In post 334, Oatsmaster wrote: I think it’s pretty bad naerys is leaving their vote on OoO-
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wtf is this wallpost, hurts my eyesIn post 374, Dannflor wrote: I think Superfluousninja is scum.
Generally, I think her posting revolves far more around "winning" interactions and signposting her intentions in an attempt to look town and than it is based around actually detecting people's alignments.
In 120, Ninja responds to Vivax's theory that she might be scum with this:
this response, especially the last line feels a lot more like a scum response to a perceived "inaccurate" accusation than a town response. the whole response is based around dissecting Vivax's logic and basically calling it bad, ergo Ninja cannot be scum. the primary motivation here is for Ninja to show that she cannot be scum based on Vivax's obviously faulty logic.Yeah. THIS is just nonsense. Why would an alleged scum version of myself want to make such clear lines in the sand when day 1 was, for me at least, less than an hour old? Like I know yall were talking while I was getting my beauty sleep, but the idea that I was actually trying to choose sides this early is just not logical.The LAST thing any scum ever wants to do, like ever, and much less at the very very beginning of the game, is have any clear allegiance with anyone. So this theory of yours seems like poor theorycrafting IMO.
but I'm not sure why a town!Ninja isn't more suspicious of Vivax or trying to interrogate Vivax more on his thought process to try and determine his alignment. I would think a town!Ninja's primary motivation here would be to try and detect which alignment Vivax is coming from. Instead, the last line of this post seems to assume that Vivax is town, by calling his attack poor thinking, instead of considering that it might be fake.
Her followup in 129 is again focused on Vivax not being "fair" and his summation of her gameplay so far being inaccurate. again, very focused on the inaccuracies and her presentation of herself.
132 feels weird to me because she is immediately trying to undermine my strongest (and only at the time) town read. The tone of this post doesn't appear to indicate that Ninja actually thinks I'm suspicious for town reading DP, but rather it seems more geared towards trying to convince me to scum read him
Later, with Ninja's push on OutofOrder, I still don't really believe Ninja is trying to sort between who is scum and who isn't.
In fact, Ninja's whole thing behind this vote is that it is very explicitly a pressure vote to get Out of Order to explain himself. She calls the behavior of outoforder "headscratching" but again I don't really get the vibe that Ninja thinks outoforder is scum.Like what do I need to do here to get you to actually explain your actions? Do you need me to vote for you to put the pressure on? Because I think I've reached that point.
I feel like this, again, betrays that the vote on OutOfOrder is very much just like... an optics thing that she feels too self-conscious to move before like getting some arbitrary amount of engagement from OoO. It's also such a weird signpost that I think most often comes from scum who are planning their trajectory throughout the day, rather than a townie who is reacting to things naturally and doesn't necessarily know where their suspicions or vote might lead them next.In post 348, SuperfluousNinja wrote: I'm leaving my vote on OutOfOrder for now because I want to see my actions through on that one, but I'm fully in favor of a vote against Gob after all this.
Like, it is not at all clear to me why Ninja thinks that once OutOfOrder responds that she is going to stop suspecting him and be good to move onto gob. Instead, it sounds like she's already decided to stop suspecting OutOfOrder once he responds and Ninja can move onto pushing gob which is what she really wants to do. Like she "wants to see her actions through" which means what exactly?
Furthermore, I feel like Ninja's interactions with gob have been very... "ahah! I've got you!"-coded
like gob seems disengaged thus far and clearly enjoys kinda being annoying towards Ninja. I don't think either of these features are super alignment indicative but Ninja's whole post 348 is about how gob's disengagement and "weirdness" must be from scum. and idk it just doesn't read genuine to me.
some of this read stems from me town reading all of roden/gob/outoforder and I think gob in particular is a pretty juicy target to push as scum because a lot of his logic looks surface level scummy and I don't think he particularly cares about being town read as town, so Ninja launching into a huge case about why gob is scum (while keeping a contrived vote on outoforder) looks bad to me
also i think the way she's played around the whole Roden vs. oats master thing has been kinda one dimensional. Like she basically went into that and immediately decided it was an SvT and oatsmaster was town and Roden was pretty sus. although it doesn't appear Ninja is interested in actually pushing that and would like the conflict to keep going? which is kind of conf biasing me into thinking Roden vs. oatsmaster is town vs. town.
but I'm contrasting this with Luca's read on the situation, which, while similar, has greater nuance. Luca is still questioning oatsmaster and I don't think is necessarily trying to encourage the conflict to continue-
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shortened for my sanity, posts like this should be illegalIn post 382, DarthPunk wrote: Catch up post.-
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what pattern? i am still in my rvsIn post 495, Vivax wrote: Do you think that Naerys voting pattern looks bad ? What makes her stand out for you over Dunn and Hu Tao ?-
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I AM NOT READING THIS, CAN YOU STOP POSTING SUCH RIDICULOUS WALLS OF POSTSIn post 499, SuperfluousNinja wrote: Okay, give me more of an opportunity to explain myself. Unapologetic wall of text, and I'm not going to apologize for it, but please at least do me the courtesy of reading it if you genuinely suspect that I'm scum (especially looking at the likes of gob here). I just write a lot, and I often think about what a fucking killer that will be if people play with me long enough and I actually roll scum, because there's NO fucking way I could sustain this level of output if I had to make up literally everything I was doing. A quick disclaimer, remember also that there's a human behind this account, and I'm looking primarily at oats with this one. Just because you suspect someone is scum, that doesn't give you permission to be rude and hostile to them. Oats, you pull that shit with me where you insult my intelligence like you did on Roden just because you think I'm not aligned with you, we are going to have a HUGE fucking problem, you understand? I don't care if you think I'm so scummy that not even the most intense bathroom cleaner on the planet could make a dent in me; you don't treat the actual human like shit over a fucking form game. Please do your utmost to remember that.
My reads have shifted from last night. Regarding Dannflor, frankly I just missed post 374 in the chaos of last night and only saw the vote on top of the next page voting for me, but now that I've read post 374, I have a lot to say about it, which I will reserve for a separate post (and I will need to work through it completely to arrive at a proper read of Dannflor). The tl;dr version is that you'll see almost every single thing he said there is prefaced with "I feel like", it is just a slew of confirmation bias, and if you guys decide to lynch me today and Dannflor is actually a townie, Dannflor is going to have a HELL of a time sorting out why his gut instincts betrayed him so badly here. But anyway, let me explain better where I am at with everyone.
TOWN READS
Luca- This post in particular struck me as very townie and very helpful:
Like this demonstrates that they aren't going based on feels and other common excuses that scum will make, none of that "well I played other games in the past with this person and have this gut instinct based on information from those games that none of you played and thus nobody has the ability to corroborate any of it" bullshit, they're making a case from things actually present and happening in THIS game which we can all see with our own eyes, and that strikes me as townie. They have also requested more information from people, like wanting to hear more from Roden in post 304, wanted more information from Dannflor in 371. They're doing a nice deep dive of OOO's recent posts in posts 465 and 467, trying to sort it out and understand it, and that level of dive / solviness suggests town to me.In post 295, Luca Blight wrote: Defensive: 234, 248 (btw, I think Oats' comment in 237 was fair and reflected my own thoughts at the time, hence my vote)
Aggressive/Potential Power-wolfing: 263, 264, 268, 274
Yes, you later walked this back by saying you weren't being entirely serious, but that in itself I find somewhat suspect.
I am encouraged also by the fact that Luca "reads Roden as scum independently", which is exactly how I feel also.
Oatsmaster- My townread is largely based on my conclusion that acting like an asshole is townie. Oatsmaster has clearly crossed lines with belligerence in this game, and while I don't appreciate that in the slightest, I do give it credit for being a strong town tell, as it would otherwise show a near sociopathic level of arrogance and bravado to actually attack other people's character over their alleged personal stupidity for suspecting one's self to be evil. I prefer the far simpler and more likely explanation that he's just letting his position of innocence go to his head and his in-game moral superiority of not being evil give him some carte blanche to beat up on the baddies in ways that kinda cross the line. He is overly aggressive, like in post 212 calling gob's read "insanely terrible" (I'm not saying it's a good read, I think it's a bad case, but I am saying that "insanely terrible" absolutely is aggressive and belligerent language), 215 he said "Wow I can hold 2 separate thoughts in my head big whoop lol." which is quite condescending, and 259 frankly I think Oats owes Roden an apology for the personal insult, but again, it's hard to see how a scum writes a post like 259, where they actually insult someone's intelligence over a disagreement. Maybe I don't know Oats well enough and he really IS that arrogant, but it just seems much, much more likely to me that all that comes from the perspective of a cocky townie.
DarthPunk- I was initially wary of Darth for post 57, and at that stage of the game I think my pressure / thoughts on the matter were entirely appropriate, being concerned that when he said "I’m trying to be a bit careful not to jump all over someone for not meeting my high expectations", that this could be a scum tell as scum always wants to remain flexible and wants to avoid having to switch gears.
But otherwise, post 382 was obviously a very helpful post and it isn't just a bunch of vibes agreeing and disagreeing, it is pushing people to explain certain things (including myself, which I appreciate, as I don't want anyone to be confused by what I am doing and encourage questions). I'm okay with Darth's wary stance on OutOfOrder (even though I currently read OOO as town...it's probably a light town read for me) and I align with Darth's thinking that Gob and Roden are scum. Bonus points for actually committing to / documenting a reads list without being prompted for it, which always strikes me as a townie thing to do. So I'm bumping Darth up to the Town column for now.
OutOfOrder- After post 451, I feel a lot better about them. I wanted them to explain why they thought Luca was guilty and they delivered. I do still want an explanation on gob as I don't think I see them laying down their case anywhere, but their content contributions here are a lot more helpful and I feel better about OOO because of it, so
UNVOTE: OutOfOrder
There's been a bit of chatter about why I left my vote on OOO for so long and "why does Ninja still think OOO is guilty". I hope you realize that I was just waiting for more information / content from their end and wasn't going to change my mind about them until I got that, and it didn't actually come until this morning for understandable life reasons, so please don't be holding it against me for not sorting out my feelings on OOO prior to finally getting some answers. And again, bonus points for the reads list.
NULL READS
Dannflor- will follow up in a subsequent post. I may move Dannflor out of null after I do it.
Vivax- I think I am the most genuinely null on Vivax, but I possibly (POSSIBLY, not PROBABLY) lean more towards town than anything else. Mostly I would like to directly interact with Vivax more to get a better feel for him. I think my issue here is that I disagree with a lot of Vivax's views, but I can't deny that they are making a concerted effort to justify them. Like post 305, which ends with "Dann/OOO/Oats would be my picks for today", I guess the jury is out for me on Dann but AT THAT TIME I likely would have agreed with it, I think the read AT THAT TIME on OutOfOrder was appropriate (this was before OOO cleared things up with the post this morning), but I don't agree with the scum read on Oats at all. And post 309, Vivax thinks Roden is "very townie" and I don't agree with that at all. It's notable that, in Post 427, Vivax then changed their read on Dann after Dann's big post on me, and it is perhaps more townie / less scummy to willingly give up on a scum read from the day before. I would think a scum would be less likely to rather quickly change a read on someone based on one post, but I guess it's possible that Vivax is also just sailing with the winds of change and following the general direction of town and jumping on that very popular Ninja bandwagon right now.
Ultimately I just need more interaction with Vivax to sort this out and I encourage and welcome any and all of it.
Dunnstral- 7 total posts as of writing this, and the only thing they've really talked about is a take on meta game analysis in post 372, about whether activity level is a sign of guilt. This is as good a time as any to explain my real intent with bringing up the fact that I think less activity is a sign of guilt: it was purely to try and light a fire under the asses of scum and get them to post more. My hope was that it would scare scum lurkers into providing more content, which is great, because the more scum has to say and the more content they have to provide, the more likely they are to screw up and get caught. When you're guilty, you increase your chances of getting caught every time you touch your keyboard and I don't think any scum is unaware of this fact, and I absolutely believe that plays out in games like this.
I mean I will fucking DIE on that hill, that I believe that the guilty just say less, and I cannot fathom why anyone legitimately believes otherwise. I am sympathetic to the view that it doesn't make for asolidcase against anyone, but you have to be COMPLETELY off your rocker if you don't actually believe that the guilty are simply less likely to say stuff in this game, period.
So on that note, if you're town and you pushed back on me on this, just literallywhat the fuck are you doing???Were you not able to tell why a person might say something like this? If you are actually town and you argued against me on this, not only did you make what I think is a pretty dumb argument, you also just completely obliterated my move to try and scare scum into talking more, and at this point you've done that REALLY effectively, as now scum can look at all the pushback I got for trying to argue that low activity level means something and they can kick back with their cuppa tea or whatever calming beverage they prefer to consume and just let us townies provide all the content eating each other up while doing next to nothing to provide that content that will look scummy. Like, use your heads, people, and understand the implications of your thoughts and actions.
But I digress, the fact that Dunnstral offered so little content and that the only content is meta game analysis, I lean more scum, but there's just not enough content here to really nail that read down.
Hu Tao- 16 total posts as of writing this, also very minimal levels of engagement. I lean more towards scum than town. They jumped aboard the choo choo SuperfluousNinja train and really only justified it based on a disagreement about meta game analysis (whether the guilty talk more or less), just like Dunnstral did. It strikes me as flimsy to think someone is guilty just because you have a different interpretation of what activity levels mean and strikes me as even MORE flimsy to legitimately believe that saying and doing less doesn't suggest that a person is more likely to be scum.
Naerys- 8 total posts as of writing this. I will say she definitely leans scum based on what little is here, though, as it shows a very, very minimal level of engagement and is entirely unhelpful to town.
SCUM READS
Gob- I think I have a completely legitimate reason to suspect gob after they tossed out this vote on me with the justification that my vote on OOO was "pretty bad" (see post 336) but then subsequently admitted that they hadn't even tried to understand why my vote was there. Why would a townie make a point of saying "that move was bad" when they don't even understand the move and made no effort to sort it out? More importantly, why isn't a townie interested in understanding this stuff, period? Gob doesn't just SEEM disengaged from this game;he openly admits that he is.(see post 353) And that is indeed scummy, since scum does not have any compelling reason to engage and figure things out, to ask meaningful questions and get to the bottom of anything, since they know exactly who is who.
Otherwise, just look at his ISO and tell me what you think is useful or moving the game forward at all. I find next to nothing in this ISO that does that. Post 322 sticks out as odd, by the way:
Just says this, doesn't explain why, doesn't offer any logic behind it, and I don't think hardly anyone else really vibes with this sentiment anyway so it feels very necessary to actually try and explain this, and that just doesn't happen.
And yes, you can tack on the terrible logic behind post 185 which has already been discussed at length here, as well as the whole "I'm posting just to post" stuff. It all adds up to a solid scum read of gob for me.
I still insist that I have scared gob with how active I am. Post 175 is neuroticism about excessive content. I am somewhat arrogantly assuming that at least one scum, if not all scum, have caught on to how engaged I am in this game, and they feel really threatened by that and are thus trying to get me killed and are going into overdrive to shut me up. I'll be really curious to follow up on this theory after the game ends.
Roden- Defensiveness, defensiveness, defensiveness. That's what the case boils down to for me. He's even being defensive about the fact that he's being defensive! (post 344) Scum are obviously a lot more likely to be defensive since survival is their only real goal in this game, whereas town really shouldn't be quite as concerned with staying alive and is more concerned with moving the game forward, getting the truth out there, etc. I still think post 302 was incredibly dismissive, and post 294 openly admits to being unhelpful:
Like what has Roden done so far? He focused interactions with Oats for a long time and later cast a vote for OutOfOrder without any explanation. That's, like, the extent of what Roden has done in this whole game, so for the life of me I wouldn't understand where a town read of Roden could possibly come from.In post 294, Roden wrote: I have thoughts on other players but you get them when you get them
There's also the absentMalcolmTuckerslot, and it is of course entirely possible they are scum, so we might have only been chasing 2 scum this whole time instead of 3 and IMO people need to be a lot more mindful of that, if they are already trying to theorycraft 3-person teams.
Thank you for reading all of this. One closing thought, I have absolutely nothing to hide and I'm not afraid of any of you or anything you might ask, so if there's anything I did or said that you still do not understand, please please PLEASE ask me about it. Please avoid a reaction of "eh, my read on all this is that Ninja is guilty, the end, I don't have any further questions" if you can.
I added my links to the posts at the end. If I missed any or mislinked anything, that was an error and not intentional.
Also I promise I'll never write anything this long again. Believe me, I don't want to lol
Wow that took me hours and I haven't even gotten to Dannflor yet. FML-
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I dont really see any chemistry between those order mentioned, so order themselves could be scum-
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*those order mentioned as SR-
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What can i say, i prefer to observe from backroundIn post 513, Hu Tao wrote:
Just letting you know, regardless of alignment this is how naery posts. Not a whole lot of content.In post 493, outoforder wrote: Gonna put my vote here for now.
VOTE: Naerys
Complete lackluster today.
As a side note, how do spoilers actually work here? They seem to be not working correctly in my mind.-
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Unless its actually SCUM who are writing those endless posts-
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Trees hiding in a forestIn post 518, Hu Tao wrote:
There is like 7 of them. They can't all be scumIn post 517, Naerys wrote: Unless its actually SCUM who are writing those endless posts-
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yes bcz i dont care at all what everyone else thinks of meIn post 533, Oatsmaster wrote: AFAIK naeyes still has their vote on OoO
i play how i want and i switch my vote when i want, bye-
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It feels like you randomly picked people to SR. And who else would do that than scumIn post 520, outoforder wrote:
Can you explain the logic between this?In post 510, Naerys wrote: I dont really see any chemistry between those order mentioned, so order themselves could be scum-
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Oatmaster and gob are scum buddiesIn post 579, gob wrote: I'm wondering why Naerys is still on OoO-
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In post 599, DarthPunk wrote:
They are poking into me still voting order, trying to make me look scummyIn post 598, Naerys wrote:
Oatmaster and gob are scum buddiesIn post 579, gob wrote: I'm wondering why Naerys is still on OoO
Why do you think that?-
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Kk i love when the quote derps on my phone like that-
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tired from work and my attention is elsewhere, cya laters-
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VOTE: oatsmaster
oh and this is scum btw-
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i played with roden as my scum buddy and he did play like "sorry i need to catch up" and then disappeared
tbf it might just be his irl stuff-
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I have better games and i have worse games, nobody is perfect so chill
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kk Hu is probably town hereIn post 1232, Hu Tao wrote: I'm okay with voting Luca or maybe naerys.-
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also i love sleeping so bye-
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In post 1253, Hu Tao wrote:
Cuz u are SR meIn post 1235, Naerys wrote:
kk Hu is probably town hereIn post 1232, Hu Tao wrote: I'm okay with voting Luca or maybe naerys.
Why-
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can you stop being so disgustingly active
i am not catching up those 18 pages-
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kinda funny how ur read of me progressed through time
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VOTE: Vivax-
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Doing something? you are literally harming town with that shtposting of 18 and more pages-
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for someone who doesnt spend every minute of every day here its kind ahard to keep track of this game-
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Anything you write is a gem, gob-
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I wouldnt mind going back on oats-
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i am curious-
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indeed
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Yes, you are toxic.In post 2674, outoforder wrote: Yeah i am being toxic? Come on your site cant even use the word to correctly yeet people.
You dial up, i have not been abrasive, or even rude to anyone here.-
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my scumTaometer tells me this Hu is likely town-
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VOTE: luca-
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Bad reaction to Hu Tao´s experiment. Got overly defensive imoIn post 2811, SuperfluousNinja wrote: What are your reasons for voting Luca?-
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have you played with scum Dann?In post 2733, Hu Tao wrote: Dann, gob, Naerys, roden, dunn-
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Hmm i am kinda thinking about the nightkills. Either scum got really lucky or there is person with good analytical mind
makes me kinda sus Dann tbh-
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no, i must have missed that
i dont keep up with that mass of posts you people are producing-
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what?In post 2839, SuperfluousNinja wrote:In post 2838, Naerys wrote:no, i must have missed that
i dont keep up with that mass of posts you people are producing
This information is in the very first post.-
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You are confusing me. I knew that Roden flipped jk i just didnt know he claimed it.In post 2841, SuperfluousNinja wrote: You say you're thinking about the night kills, yes? So you're thinking about this after we would have gotten our chance to see Roden's alignment, not to mention that Roden had claimed being jailkeeper during day 1 also. But if you were really interested in putting some thought into the nightkills and wondering how and why they happened like they did, why wouldn't one of the very first things you do, if not THE first thing, be to check the role of the person who died?-
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i meant that they were either lucky or very observant killing cop AND jkIn post 2846, SuperfluousNinja wrote:In post 2843, Naerys wrote:
You are confusing me. I knew that Roden flipped jk i just didnt know he claimed it.In post 2841, SuperfluousNinja wrote: You say you're thinking about the night kills, yes? So you're thinking about this after we would have gotten our chance to see Roden's alignment, not to mention that Roden had claimed being jailkeeper during day 1 also. But if you were really interested in putting some thought into the nightkills and wondering how and why they happened like they did, why wouldn't one of the very first things you do, if not THE first thing, be to check the role of the person who died?
I see, I was maybe misunderstanding things. So when you're looking into how scum "got lucky", you're wondering how they got lucky killing the JAILKEEPER specifically. I thought you might have meant that they got lucky getting a kill, period.-
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wait i got mixed up games-
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HmmIn post 2883, gob wrote: I think Dannfloor is mafia. They don't seem to be solving much at all.-
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i think dann did plenty of solving and gob is sus-
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VOTE: gob
i actually wish to head this way
anybody up for this-
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right, gob is my buddy and thats why i want to yeet himIn post 2941, SuperfluousNinja wrote: Look at how little interest there is in going after Gob, or Naerys, or Grack. If I'm right and that really is the scum team, then why would they need to do anything-
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Number of posts isnt AI. I used to look at that too, but then i realised that often ppl with the least number of posts are actually townies.In post 2950, SuperfluousNinja wrote: Look at the post count of everyone right now and tell me it doesn't tell a really fucking interesting story.
Dann - 243
Darth - 416
Hu Tao - 263
Luca - 214
Oats - 346
OOO - 358
Hot girl - 271
Vivax - 279
Gob - 161 (and if we're counting actual substantive posts, it's more like...20)
Grack - 91
Naerys - 51
Tell me I'm not on to something here.-
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i think town gob usually spouts some nonsenseIn post 3049, SuperfluousNinja wrote: Why do you want to yeet him? What specifics can you point to that make him seem yeet-worthy?
but this gob feels rather manipulative-
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If u cant respect that i dont sit at this game 24 hours per day then meh, i dont feel like answering to you questionsIn post 3203, SuperfluousNinja wrote: Naerys is even more underwhelming. Notice how fast she vanished when I asked her for more of a case on Gob than the 1 sentence of feels she gave me? She wants a free pass just because she suspects someone I also think is guilty, as if bussing isn't a thing. Making no case whatsoever on the person you're bussing is pretty par for the course.-
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culture clash i supposeIn post 3246, SuperfluousNinja wrote:In post 3243, Naerys wrote:
If u cant respect that i dont sit at this game 24 hours per day then meh, i dont feel like answering to you questionsIn post 3203, SuperfluousNinja wrote: Naerys is even more underwhelming. Notice how fast she vanished when I asked her for more of a case on Gob than the 1 sentence of feels she gave me? She wants a free pass just because she suspects someone I also think is guilty, as if bussing isn't a thing. Making no case whatsoever on the person you're bussing is pretty par for the course.
The point is that there's a LOT of space between "sitting at this game 24 hours a day" and what you are doing, though.
i am low talking person-
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i do pay attention to the game much more when i am scumIn post 3438, Luca Blight wrote: Regarding Naerys - I'm not reading too much into that supposed town-slip. I actually once played a game before where this happened - a player was so disengaged that they missed the claim of the player who was NK, or something like that, and everyone townread them for it. It actually turned out that they were scum but not pretending to town-slip - they had barely read the posts in the mafia pt either, and were genuinely unaware of the claim.
as town i tend to be lax-
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curious shifts, i need to think
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I think if Oats is town then atleast one of Dann/Luca is scum-
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I dont care.In post 3467, SuperfluousNinja wrote:In post 3451, Naerys wrote: i do pay attention to the game much more when i am scum
as town i tend to be lax
Do you understand why lax play is interpreted as scummy?-
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