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Meeeeh
This is so rough for Hu Tao.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Something deep inside is telling me it’s not Pav here.
I just don’t see it objectively.
I see it in a certain aspect with dayplay and choices, but overall, if Pav is pocketing me, it doesn’t make sense to shoot at me twice in a row.
It also doesn’t make sense to kill RN who is someone who would be voting on their side.
Leaving Geraint, Hu Tao, and Dragon alive is just absolutely terrible from a Pav scum play.
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Geraint, Hu Tao, Drag is not all town.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In post 3711, DragonEater70 wrote:
The fact that he is going against you while you townread him proves he's town. It's the complete opposite of Pav who has been catering to you the entire fucking game. But more importantly than proving he is town, it shows his conviction in his solve which is as strong as mine and as strong as HT's. I don't think this level of conviction is based on a pocket, I think we genuinely found each other as town.In post 3706, Flavor Leaf wrote: Geraint i low key been saying you’re town
What you doing.
I think it’s Hu Tao Purple or Pav Hu Tao.
I don’t see where he is going against me?
I see him pushing it as Hu Tao/Purple? I was pushing Hu Tao/Pav, he can’t push that.
He wanted Purple yesterday too. I think Purple was the other option yesterday at the end of the day.
And everything you are saying here, I can say the same about Pav.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In post 3700, geraintm wrote:
This was hu tao really helping getting HPE eliminated, and I think they could have not done this, they didn't need to generate pressure on them and gone elsewhere (like....I for example.am always a good out when an alternative wagon is needed and instead of that they push scum).In post 2138, Hu Tao wrote:
I think we go hpe today, I agreeIn post 2098, Flavor Leaf wrote: HPE has also had the worst reads this game, and sheeped into both wagons. Actively helped push Lap too, when Lap was obv town.
I don't want to vote Hu toa today
But you see how Hu Tao actively sheeped the read and then because of it, the day ended super fast compared to the other two days.
I think that’s specifically because Hu Tao chose to bus and it ended the game early.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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This sucks.
But!
The flips of CW and Gamma Emerald both being town PROVE that my reads have been good this game. I town read Lap strongly.
After Kyouko flip, I knew HPE was scum.
I have had a strong read game.
The ending of the days aside, I have been pushing in the right direction a lot of these games, but in consistently pushed as incorrect.
And yet, Pavowski has never once shut my reads down.
He has been there alongside me for most of it, and after all of it, my reads have shown to be pretty good this game. I gave up end of the day.
I don’t think I can now.
And you know what.
I think I’m back to this being 2 of 3 in Hu Tao/Purple/Dragon.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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My CW read was correct.
My Gamma read was correct. (Bar end of the day mishap, but there wasn’t a fade that was gonna happen, and I needed to know the flip.)
My Lap read was correct.
My HPE read was correct.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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This means I’m likely correct that there is scum in Hu Tao/Dragon.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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And I’m like 50/50 that the team is Hu Tao/Dragon or Hu Tao/Purple.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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And if I’m gonna lose the game, I’m gonna lose the game trusting my gut read on Pavowski, the one player this game who hasn’t tried to discredit any of my reads other than Purple.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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And personally, I think it’s telling considering my reads have ended up being correct, at least the basis. I spent like 2 and a half day phases strongly town reading both Gamma and CW, only doubting it near the end.
And I doubted it because I started to doubt my scum reads in Dragon/Hu Tao.
This will not happen again.
Dragon has whined about it all game, but fact of the matter is my reads have been right other than Kyouko.
I cased Black as scum, and wanted that flip hoping it was scum and that Hu Tao/Dragon were both town. I town read Gamma, and unfortunate they had to leave because I didn’t start doubting Gamma until they were gone.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I will never vote Pav against on Day 5.
If you are able to get 4 votes on Pav, this proves that scum are on the wagon based on me being conf town.
Hu Tao/Dragon/Geraint all are willing to vote Pav.
Pav is voting Purple, this would probably mean Purple is willing to vote Pav.
I believe this means that scum are always on that wagon, and yeah, it could be a bus, but i don’t see it.
I messed up voting my gut soul read on Roden recently, and ended in a gamestate that was lost.
I won’t do it here.
Lose this one on your own.
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We go from 4.10 to this, where Black becomes the main wagon with me and Dragon/Hu Tao, leaving all town on Hu Tao yet again.
Scum don’t want Hu Tao dead?
Scum don’t want to break up Hu Tao/Dragon?
YEAH RIGHT.
And Pavowski tries to push Purple here over a juicy Hu Tao wagon? NO.
Hu Tao is a far superior fade in a scum Pav world.
Dragon, you are WRONG. Or scum.
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Or I’m super pocketed, and I’ll live with that.
We couldn’t come together, we couldnt meet each other halfway if you’re town.
I tried, but i just don’t think the majority of your town reasonings on each other hold much weight, and neither of you give a fuck about that.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In post 1126, cw357 wrote: dragon, hu tao = powerwolfIn post 1202, cw357 wrote: this is my swan song
scum is probably dragon+hu tao+hpe
I called it
tbh I don't even care anymore
After this, Dragon and Co push that CW needs to be vigged.
CW was right this game. And imo, that’s so fitting. It’s why they got pushed down second half of Day 2 so hard even after I left it.
RN was pushing Hu Tao, and RN kill is a direct vote away from Pavowski.
This makes absolutely zero sense in a ScumPav world to do.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Yeah, it’s Dragon and Hu Tao.
imo, Dragon has near zero read evolution this entire game and has done nothing but conditional response me all game. When I’m with him and Hu Tao, they cheer me, when I’m against he discredit/punishes me.
Claim wise, the first one was to help the JK gambit, the 2nd one didn’t matter because it didn’t extend game and it kept the game from getting flips. I would argue the 2nd no kill helped scum more than it hurt.
I also specifically stated on Day 2 I wouldn’t be shooting Dragon, and they actively still blocked me.
This only makes sense for them to protect scum, which they absolutely did and protected HPE.
This is a major reason that HPE quick fade 100% had busses on it.
Scum gave HPE up knowing it would be too hard to save.
I believe both of them bussed.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Coincidence that CW had recently called out HPE/Dragon/Hu Tao as scum team?In post 1296, Flavor Leaf wrote:
this is manipulative posting considering CW is E-1, and I'm not voting there.In post 1290, DragonEater70 wrote: Fuck this I'm just going to sheep Flavor
Clearly he's not going to work with me and he's conftown so whatever
I'll graciously accept getting vigged tonight if Flavor is wrong
VOTE: cw
Pedit: okay that makes me feel slightly better about this vote
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Yeah, wanted the person who wanted scum dead.In post 1349, Hu Tao wrote:
I also agree with this. Which is why i wanted cw as the vote instead.In post 1324, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think Pavowski fade is scum beneficial because it keeps CW-HuTao/DE alive.
It also makes it likely that I vig CW specifically, so scum felt safer going outside of CW so I would vig there.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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The fact Black flipped green and synced up with the push I did most this game is incredibly telling.
Geraint, Purple, it’s Dragon and Hu Tao. Please please please do not vote Pav or each other.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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At least give it time .CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Aged amazinglyIn post 1490, DragonEater70 wrote:In post 1475, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Gamma can read me I am safeUnfortunately, in every world where you are town Gamma is scum
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I'd like to be able to say that I read your meta thing, but I didn't because I am freaking exhausted (and my philosophy is there's no point in trying to get anything AI out of wallposts when I'm tired), so I'll read it tomorrow at some point.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In post 1512, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Lmao - HPE's trajectory on Pavowski is similar to what it is on me. It starts RVS on Pavowski but at some point decides Pavowski is town (which reinforces the push on Laplacian because Laplacian was pushing Pavowski's really early posts like on end of page 2/top of page 3). Once it declares Pavowski towny on D1 it keeps that opinion.
On D2, when DragonEater tells HPE to read Pavowski and Hu Tao, it does so, and at this point still says it thinks Pav is towny in 901. The next time it mentions Pavowski is in 955 where it says to dragon it can maybe see Pav is scum but still thinks he is town, and posts a reminder to itself to check on Kyouko and PM.
In 1028 the read changes from town!Pav to "warming up to the idea of scum!Pav" and take a look at 1149 - Pav has the same complaint about HPE in 1109 that I have now - HPE is vague, by it's own admission, about why it SRs Pav. And yet, when I asked HPE why it SRs Pav it said I would find the reasoning in it's ISO.
HPE is blatantly faking convenient scumreads on players that are under pressure. This is scum.In post 1149, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
You probably think it was a "little too easy" because this one wasn't exhaustively listing the things it didn't about your recent posts.In post 1109, Pavowski wrote: HPE I maybe feel a little better about flipping, I'm a little sus of her recent change of heart on me (felt a little too easy if you ask me) and there has certainly been some opportunistic play there outside of that as well
Anyway, VOTE: cw
Spoiler: raw quotes from HPE's ISO about Pav, but you may as well ISO her yourself and ctrl+f "pav" like I did
This is one of the biggest things.
HPE’s read progressions were exactly the same on Kyouko and HPE.
Also, I asked that one multiple times for reads, and couldn’t get anything. But Dragon asked for reads, as Kyouko pointed out, and that one treated them like the boss.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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The way HPE treated myself, Gamma, cw, and Kyouko is drastically different than the way that one treated Dragon/Hu Tao as well.
And all 4 of the ones they stabbed at ended up being town.
That one treated their scum team more neutral.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In post 1594, Hu Tao wrote: I would love that vote. But it's likely not happening sadly. Flavor doesn't want cw
Emphasizing Gamma voting the slot who nailed the scum teamCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In post 1629, cw357 wrote:
that narrows it downIn post 1627, Flavor Leaf wrote: We're def in a world where Gamma / Kyouko is T/S, S/T, or S/S.
what if they're v/v lolololol nice try + rip + LLLLLLL
Their reads were near perfection this game.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In post 1724, DragonEater70 wrote:
I'm telling you with 100% certainty that this is a wrong solveIn post 1563, Flavor Leaf wrote: My current solve is Kyouko, CW, and one of Hu Tao/Dragon.
Geraint could slide in there if they’re scum in place of one of them, but I’m pretty happy with the other slots.
Most of Kyouko’s posts today were a lot of IioA, and there were conclusions made directed towards HPE.
I just think HPE fits the bill of impressionable town (not in a bad way) and takes the time to consider the cases that get presented.
Feels like they’ve just been on too many of the wagons outwardly, and i don’t think scum do it like that that often.
I'm also pretty sure Gamma is scum from her catch up
You right, it was 100% wrong, and so was the push on Gamma.
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This post Dragon is pushing they are very good at finding town as town—
CW and Gamma were both town that Dragon was pushing. They were pushing Purple as townlock until today too.
He needs Geraint’s vote to win.
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This is what I posted directly after Dragon said he was good at finding town as town then pushed Gamma as scum.In post 1736, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think this is probs Gamma town.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Gamma and I were also semi aligning at the time.
Gamma, myself, and CW were pushing Hu Tao all at the same time Day 4, and Dragon actively ignores that we were all town pushing Hu Tao and couldn’t get them.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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lol maybe town yet he’s the only one that one answered questions for reallyIn post 1780, HighPrincessErinys wrote: This one thinks Dragon ismaybetown but holy shit is this Gamma scumread contrived.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In post 1862, Flavor Leaf wrote: Gamma has no reason to come in and disrupt the status quo the way they have unless they are specifically scum WITH Kyouko, so it always makes sense Kyouko firstIn post 1868, cw357 wrote: IMO dragon getting on the gamma wagon with kyouku reeks of scum trying to get on a wagon with an imminent townflip. I obviously scumread dragon, and I find it hard to see scum dragon getting on a wagon with scum kyouku when kyouku is probably about to be elimed. VOTE: Dragon
it's not tunneling if ur rightIn post 1851, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Gamma/Kyouko being partnered would naturally lend towards Gamma coming in tosaveKyouko rather thankillher, but right now Kyouko is sitting on E-1 with Gamma on the wagon and Kyouko is now trying to pivot onto Gamma, so methink it's just Kyouko here or else, if they're partnered, the plan has completely and irreversibly fucked up somehow.In post 1852, Hu Tao wrote: I would prefer gamma here. But I don't think we have the votes to do so.
Dragon, HPE, and Hu Tao all trying to shade Gamma.In post 1870, Flavor Leaf wrote:
I just don’t think Gamma is scum.In post 1866, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Yeah you're probably right, but you're also right that in this case we still should just flip Kyouko first lmaoIn post 1864, Flavor Leaf wrote:
If they are both scum, it’s a distancing plan now.In post 1851, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Gamma/Kyouko being partnered would naturally lend towards Gamma coming in tosaveKyouko rather thankillher, but right now Kyouko is sitting on E-1 with Gamma on the wagon and Kyouko is now trying to pivot onto Gamma, so methink it's just Kyouko here or else, if they're partnered, the plan has completely and irreversibly fucked up somehow.
Kyouko’s posts have a lot of subtle manipulation in them, like saying I’m preflip associating you, when I’ve just come to town read HPE. I didn’t scum read Kyouko then go “HPE must be town because of it!”
Gamma and I were aligning at this time.
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In post 1876, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think Gamma makes absolutely no sense as scum here and to disrupt the status quo like they did is just silly.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Also, Dragon claimed a confirmable role on Day 2.
And had no way of knowing there would be zero kills.
That was fully setup and I called the gambit out ahead of time.
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And it’s not even confirmed
You wanna know what’s confirmed?
My vig kill.
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In post 1942, Flavor Leaf wrote: If Gamma is town, it’s probably Hu Tao, but that’s the split I don’t think matters too much today. Gamma claim first is goodCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In post 1949, Flavor Leaf wrote: Just waiting for that JK scum claim.In post 1950, Flavor Leaf wrote: If Dragon is JK, and targeted me, they’re scum gambiting, no killing, by the way. I have a feeling it’s coming, i hope not, but yeah.In post 1951, Flavor Leaf wrote:
I don’t fully believe that happened, and i should have probs waited, but i was thinking about this since yesterday, and think there’s reason to get this out before a potential claim.In post 1950, Flavor Leaf wrote: If Dragon is JK, and targeted me, they’re scum gambiting, no killing, by the way. I have a feeling it’s coming, i hope not, but yeah.
CALLED THAT SHITIn post 1952, Flavor Leaf wrote: That’s a game winning gambit in a scumDragon scenario if that claim is believed.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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This is why Jailing me makes zero sense from a town Dragon perspective that night.In post 1958, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 1956, Flavor Leaf wrote: JK isn’t confirmable, though, in that regard, so I’m just being paranoid probably.
I genuinely do want to trust Dragon, but that would be such an untrustworthy move with no motives but faking self confirmation and protecting scum.
Like this would have just made Kyouko’s death less worth, which doesn’t line up with their attitude of Kyouko if they’re coming from a town perspective.
The Vig shot was coming from a slot of knowing Kyouko was town, exactly where Dragon wanted me to be yesterday.
The big reason of the Kyouko fade was to line up a solid vig kill.
I just don’t see JK as confirmable at all.
But this is all stuff I was thinking about on Day 2.
Dragon tried for ages to get me to see Kyouko as town. The flip, I did. And they jailed me, stopping me from shooting HPE, who I clearly stated was scum if Kyouko was town.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Not a coincidence CW didn’t have nearly as much heat on him this day phase with these reads
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Nah, I’m done switching.
If you’re town, Hu Tao, Dragon pocketed the fuck out of you, and you look absolutely terrible on VCA with 3 confirmed towns on you yesterday.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Pav just would have won had they killed Dragon probably, if scum.
There is no reason to keep a claimed JK alive at this point in the game free over Random Nurse for Pav.
Pav LOST a vote this day phase that would be on their side + risks getting jailed in the future.
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you explain your zero read evolution on them. It’s your read.In post 3761, Hu Tao wrote: Explain how they pocketed me?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Frankly, I’m okay losing to a Scum Pav based on how little you two have given when I’ve actively begged and begged for reasons all game.
Y’all act like I can’t meet halfway, i tried running a marathon to meet with yallCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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And the fact that both Dragon and Hu Tao main pushes in CW and Gamma on Day both flipped town when they were my Day 2 town reads says everything I need to know.
It was YOU 2 that needed to come and meet with me, not the other way around, and I was a fool trying to connect so hard with the two blank walling.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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If town lose this game voting Pav, so be it.
I will not have any part of it.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Meaning 100% scum have to vote Pav this game for Pav to get faded.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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And if Pav gets bussed as scum….well, I have a Vig shot.
Also, another thing with Dragon who is so against my reads.
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Hu Tao is scum here dragon.
Hu Tao flips scum, jail Purple, probably. If a kill goes through, Pav or Geraint is scum 100%.
If Hu Tao is scum, I’m vigging Dragon.
If Dragon and I both die, and game continues, game goes to Purple as conf town against Geraint or Pav scum, just vote Pav in that scenario, Purple.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Hot damn spicy
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It’s both you and me imo.In post 3787, geraintm wrote: Everyone can make an argument that they have been left alive because scum is trying.to.get them miseliminated.
Except me.
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Kinda wanna hammer test Pav/PurpleCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Yeah, it’s a flawed concept if scum don’t have roleblocker actions anymore based on i could Vig you after, though.
I just don’t trust Dragon, and wanted to possibly prove there is scum in Hu Tao/Dragon.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Cop and Vig vs Roleblocker Goon Goon does feel alright too.
In theory, if scum goes down day 1, they could lose on Day 2 with Guilty/Vig, so power is fine.
Cop, Vig, Jailkeeper vs Blocker Goon Goon still works, I think, but a lot stronger for scum. It could be 2 PR’s on scum in that case, a Blocker and then a 1-shot BP or something.
So setup wise, I can see Dragon either way.
Idk. I’m torn.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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If dragon is scum, we have to fade them today.
We are in leap of faith situation no matter what.
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I marinated on it, i don’t think it’s impossibleIn post 3810, DragonEater70 wrote: Flavor, do you reckon Pav/Hu Tao has any viability as a scum team? Because if not I'd like to just go Purple (assuming we decide Geraint is locktown).CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I think that was one of my pairings Day 4 of I was wrong on Pav, and that’s what Black ended up on by the end of itCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I have no clue who scum is lolCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Like i literally town read all yall, and everything i got is just paranoia tin foils.
But some of my paranoia tin foils are correctCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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There are legitimate reasons for everyone here to be town and scum, i don’t really like the no reasons pushCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Okay, full disclosure.
I don’t have more vig shots. I was 2-shot.
It’s another reason I was skeptical of Dragon with them claiming 2-shot earlier and then retracting.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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So if we misfade, we lose.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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