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[Shrek]

VOTE: Random Nurse

didnt even THANK me when i signed up for this game when it really needed players what the hey hey is up with that

[Shrek]

you havent read all 1,100 chapters?? fake fan tbh

anyway going through lich's iso and its kind of nothing.

not gonna get a reaction from nurse anytime soon so VOTE: TemporalLich

[Shrek]

no lich actually has a decent point there, i can’t possibly see flavor leaf giving up after a d1 wagon emerges. that’s a really weird argument to make on your part iavh

[Shrek]

VOTE: Random Nurse

didnt even THANK me when i signed up for this game when it really needed players what the hey hey is up with that

Listen—I was on a mission.

No time for pleasantries along the way.

But yeah thanks for coming. I was the first to /in and got tired of waiting for months and months.

this is what i wanted btw

nurse town

[Shrek]

VOTE: Random Nurse

didnt even THANK me when i signed up for this game when it really needed players what the hey hey is up with that

Listen—I was on a mission.

No time for pleasantries along the way.

But yeah thanks for coming. I was the first to /in and got tired of waiting for months and months.

this is what i wanted btw

nurse town

You wanted RN to explain that they were recruiting players and thank you for joining? Why is that, of all posts, town?

yeah i wonder how something not related to the game in the slightest could result in any read at all unless… i was joking??? no way

[Shrek]

anyways VOTE: Klazam

i feel better about this than i do lich for now

[Shrek]

no lich actually has a decent point there, i can’t possibly see flavor leaf giving up after a d1 wagon emerges. that’s a really weird argument to make on your part iavh

this is a non sequitor
the claim by lich is specifically that self voting makes him more

town

and this doesn't even address the relative likelihood of FL doing that as one faction or as another

i was agreeing with lich and responding to the post above that lol

[Shrek]

iavh = iamveryhappy

[Shrek]

ok can you elaborate some on what you agree w lich about and why

FL is not a newbie scum giving up because he has a wagon on D1, i was more disagreeing with iavh’s explanation for his self vote

i think FL is SLIGHTLY townlean but that’s more due to being sus of the people on his wagon than anything else because he’s such an easy target

[Shrek]

Was going to RVS BBmolla- do you remember me? I recall you back in the day lol

But

Holy fuck Psyche. That’s too much lol.

VOTE: Psyche

more people need to talk about this because this low effort opener transitioning into an immediate switch onto another big wagon is a bad look

[Shrek]

oh i got ninjad WITH people talking abour it lol

[Shrek]

i think there’s a not-insignificant chance that psyche and klazam are teamed up together from klazam’s vote on him segueing into a vote on FL with zero reasoning. in this scenario if psyche IS outed klazam can point to plausible deniability with the snap vote on him

alone i very slightly scumread psyche, nothing too significant, but klazam’s behavior wrt the wagon makes a pairing likely

[Shrek]

another lead rist, this one was formed by skimming ISOs:

[Town]

Shrek - Very good town momentum
Klazam - Excellent posts after the two opening posts
Merlyn - Somewhat townie posts
JacksonVirgo - Good at pushing
BBmolla - Really hasty claim that is unlikely to be scum
Naerys - Towny vibes, I think
ZZZX - Somewhat towny vibes
Random Nurse - Slightly towny vibes
camelCasedSnivy - hard to sort, very weak townlean
the worst - lorem ipsum
davesaz - good at blending in
Save The Dragons - hard null
shaddowez - lack of content
Anyone not specifically listed - hard null due to lack of content
Flavor Leaf - impossible to sort
iamveryhappy - what
Hu Tao- eh idk, hard to sort but weak scumlean
biancospino - very performative
furtiveglance - still scummy vibes here
Psyche - gonna go back to my gut feeling of Psyche being scum, the posts don't have town mindset anymore

[Scum]

why is zzzx so high, his iso is like flat nothing and he was part of the sheep group on the FL wagon

obviously its a goated list because i'm top but you and i have like barely interacted TL

[Shrek]

[town]
BBmolla - i dont think theyve acted the most townie out of EVERYONE but they claimed and the rest is more a gut read
JV - similar lines of thought to me which is always a good thing, and i dont think scum would willingly get into a kerfuffle over an easily avoidable argument d1
ducky - 434 443 and 457 are a very good line of thought in particular which is enough to move it from lean to read. also hi do you remember me from survivor legendary

[townlean]
RN - i mean he thanked me. what more do you want (mostly just gut read)
TL - confused townie probably. i initially thought they were someone who wasnt earnestly trying to sort but the whole fight earlier changed my view
naerys - early game good vibes ig. i liked 173 but i need to see more from both her and merlyn
merlyn - basically same, drives discussion in a positive direction
STD - not anything solid but i agree with the reads they posted
flavor - i SR their wagon more than i TR them. LHF

[null]
david - no content but i like the impression of iavh dislike the impression of flavor
bianco - appeared early and had some decent posts then disappeared
hard null - anyone here i forgot or didnt mention
furtive - had an early wagon and kind of disappeared, hasn't been driving any real discussion

[conditional scum/mild scumlean]
psyche - like... the least likely to be scum out of my SRs, but klaz voting him and then immediately jumping off to sheep the next big wagon was weird
hu tao - basically my zzzx read but has slightly more content
zzzx - has a nothing ISO and sheeped onto FL


[scum]
klaz - bad opening and i don't really see what redeemed them so much as much as other people apparently do.
iavh - weird opening into disappearing when confronted

[Shrek]

swear to god im forgetting someone important on there

[Shrek]

how to

[Shrek]

HOW TO HYPERLINK POST NUMBER

[Shrek]

Not sure what you see in 443

i like it when people bring original lines of thought into discussion even if i don't necessarily agree with them myself. i mildly dislike FL hopping on lich in the midst of yalls argument for that reason, it felt low effort-- whereas ducky's 'lich comes off as genuine and i don't care to sort them for now' kinda hits

[Shrek]

[town]
BBmolla - i dont think theyve acted the most townie out of EVERYONE but they claimed and the rest is more a gut read
JV - similar lines of thought to me which is always a good thing, and i dont think scum would willingly get into a kerfuffle over an easily avoidable argument d1
ducky - 434 443 and 457 are a very good line of thought in particular which is enough to move it from lean to read. also hi do you remember me from survivor legendary

[townlean]
RN - i mean he thanked me. what more do you want (mostly just gut read)
TL - confused townie probably. i initially thought they were someone who wasnt earnestly trying to sort but the whole fight earlier changed my view
naerys - early game good vibes ig. i liked 173 but i need to see more from both her and merlyn
merlyn - basically same, drives discussion in a positive direction
STD - not anything solid but i agree with the reads they posted

flavor

- i SR their wagon more than i TR them. LHF

[null]
david - no content but i like the impression of iavh dislike the impression of flavor
bianco - appeared early and had some decent posts then disappeared
hard null - anyone here i forgot or didnt mention
furtive - had an early wagon and kind of disappeared, hasn't been driving any real discussion

[conditional scum/mild scumlean]
psyche - like... the least likely to be scum out of my SRs, but klaz voting him and then immediately jumping off to sheep the next big wagon was weird
hu tao - basically my zzzx read but has slightly more content
zzzx - has a nothing ISO and sheeped onto FL


[scum]
klaz - bad opening and i don't really see what redeemed them so much as much as other people apparently do.
iavh - weird opening into disappearing when confronted

Are you missing FL?

no

[Shrek]

Wait wait wait. You think Flavour is LHF?

i think he comes off as nulltown goofing off which is historically very easy for scum to jump on early to make themselves look busy without actually having to do anything significant

[Shrek]

An early d1 self vote is hardly giving up. It's most likely to be a joke, and if he's scum it's the perfect time to try to look townie.

just this, i was mostly scanning isos and this pinged me in a 'hm' way

[Shrek]

"i SR their wagon more than i TR them."

on what green earth does this mean i sr FLAVOR more than i tr him

i SR hu tao, zzzx and klazam, all of whom were sheeping the flavor wagon

[Shrek]

if i think the people on someone's wagon are scum then how do you think my view of that person is affected?

[Shrek]

813 is actually really thoughtful from klazam. i might have been tunneled on that in retrospect

VOTE: IAVH

i dont like the immediate BBmolla wagon but i must not be seeing what everyone else is in 847

[Shrek]

813 is actually really thoughtful from klazam. i might have been tunneled on that in retrospect

VOTE: IAVH

i dont like the immediate BBmolla wagon but i must not be seeing what everyone else is in 847

What are your thoughts on camel

very low substance and kinda low post count so i can’t really form an opinion on them yet. i don’t like the immediate jump to BBmolla compared to their delayed reactions to other game phenomenae, it feels a little like a ‘gotcha’ to me. low end of null

[Shrek]

I'm 200% ready for a flavor leaf speedlim

excuse me?? on what basis

[Shrek]

the shrek wagon is very scummy and I really dislike how Flavor Leaf is pushing that wagon

if I had to call someone town in that interaction, ZZZX is the townie

[Shrek]

i meant to type up a response to that

[Shrek]

TL just because someone is pressuring someone who you TR doesn't make the pusher scum

[Shrek]

i think you are unnecessarily conflating 'wants to pressure' with 'wants to lim'

[Shrek]

can you please give me a more succinct argument on FL because i have yet to see a reason to speedlim anyone

[Shrek]

Really weird for them to defend me here. They could be going for a pocketing attempt on me, and it definitely worked if so, but yeah, I don't think it is. I feel like they would have gained more as scum coming after me.

since when was I defending you after I said I wanted to speedlim you

i think hes talking about the guy defending him

[Shrek]

I prefer ordered read lists as it's the order that is important for determining where I vote and push, not the tiers

This sounds like someone who only wants to push where other people are pushing, which amounts to overly cautious.

welcome to temporallich’s gameplay so far, you’re late

[Shrek]

(in response to pisskop, i aint quoting that)

the point of 139 was that i found the premise of ‘flavor gave up because he was getting wagoned early D1’ to be ridiculous. i developed a TR on him because i felt the people on the wagon were far more scummy

[Shrek]

This is on a soft read through of that game too, but I do think there's merit in this being scumTemp.

do you have a town game to compare it to because i don’t 100% buy that the way he makes lists here and there is a scum habit of his

[Shrek]

david - no content but i like the impression of iavh dislike the impression of flavor

What do you think my impression of Flavor is?

Pedit
VOTE: JacksonVirgo pagetop this

VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

This voting is a red flag for me

You haven't seen an old guy smack a youngster to get their attention?
Yeah, I know that isn't politically correct any more.

this isnt alignment indicative but come on

[Shrek]

y'all i'm tired as shit i have zero spoons for this.

i'm finding i suddenly dislike every TL post i've seen while trying to read back. i've liked what i've seen from pisskop like, at a really rough tonal level. i'm also getting a warm vibe from snivy.

i'm getting the feeling there might have been an FL wagon i missed, is there anything particularly spicy i can read about that without reading the whole way back?

can you elaborate on how your TL read progressed/the posts that made it do so? because last i remember you were content to either townbin or just not sort him. whats he done recently thats different from what he was doing at the beginning of the game?

[Shrek]

Here's some reads on lesser-talked about players:

Town
the worst
Merlyn
ZZZX

Null
Naerys
shaddowez

Scum
davesaz

dave is groan worthy but i havent seen anything explicitly scummy on his end. is there like a tipping point i should read?

[Shrek]

It’s only a contradiction if Town was not allowed to progress and change their reads. But we are allowed to, so it isn’t

IIRC you even explained the progression, unless I'm thinking of a different one.

am i the only one who reads this as a pocketing attempt rather than just neutral support? going to a widely read town like ‘well

i

think your reads are well thought out’ just reeks of fishing for approval

[Shrek]

i actually agree with your first assessment (@ducky) in that my opinion of TL is that hes probably derptown because if he had a scum pt they’d have stopped his butt from saying things like ‘we should speedlim FL’ a LONG time ago

the fact hes still the focus after 50+ pages proves hes at least riding solo

[Shrek]

yeah i just got off work so ill probably make a new readslist when i get home

[Shrek]

i actually agree with your first assessment (@ducky) in that my opinion of TL is that hes probably derptown because if he had a scum pt they’d have stopped his butt from saying things like ‘we should speedlim FL’ a LONG time ago

the fact hes still the focus after 50+ pages proves hes at least riding solo

But then you risk changing how TL plays the game, they are generally a bit fast and loose.

I feel like you are playing up the wifom card too much in regards to them.

you do make a good point there. i dont really have any experience with TL so i'm mostly going on prior experience with 'that' type of player (ie the kind that will just say out of pocket stuff with no regard for how it looks) and my gut says he lacks a scum agenda or partners that can take focus off of him

[Shrek]

can someone please summarize the case on flipping bbmolla for me

[Shrek]

ive isoed him but i don't see what people dislike in particular

[Shrek]

iavh wagon disappearing despite them doing nothing to change perception of them? uhhh ok

[Shrek]

*skim skim*

Meh im not entirely sold on the zzzx thing. The selfvote annoys me, but i dont think its alignment indicative. I do feel a bit off at a few of these posts.

Guess i wont be upset about zx being gone, but I wanna ask one thing -

Why are we NOT elimming TL?

From following along on the past few days, TL is the person who keeps on pinging my scumdar. Sure there's no votes on TL, meaning probably not a viable wagon at this point

VOTE: TemporalLich Just for the record

But still, this feels like scum.

youre too late.

BBm and I were voting them for a while and people hard defended them, but they possibly slipped that ZZZx/Psyche were their partners, so zzzx is fine.

where did they slip their partners?

[Shrek]

oh its the readslist they gave that omitted both zzzx and psyche lol. followed by an immediate psyche > zzzx vote like "guys look i promise i'm not aligned with them"

[Shrek]

VOTE: CSF

if there's no traction on IAVH or the 'scumslipped team' this seems fine enough for pressure

[Shrek]

Did an FL/ZZZX ISO, and tried processing through all the noise. My ZZZX SR was based on early posts, and not something I had gone back to revisit in a while. Rereading, the push looks really thin and I'm REALLY not liking

the worst

's positioning and vote, though I'm trying not to tunnel. Still working through things, gonna check out IAVH next because I owe that a read.

can you summarize what you're feeling on worst in specific because we might share the same opinion here

[Shrek]

VOTE: CSF

if there's no traction on IAVH or the 'scumslipped team' this seems fine enough for pressure

What do you mean vote for pressure

I've given lots of reads, do you have thoughts on any of them

i mean i want to pressure you because i think you may be scum and none of my other top SRs have any traction

i think your hu tao read is fairly weak and based mostly on 'they started with the conclusion first' which can be done as either alignment. i don't see the way you interacted with JV (supposedly one of your top scumreads) as towny and your whole readslist just feels 'too easy' and not in a good way

[Shrek]

Town

Random Nurse, Klazam, Flavor Leaf, the worst
Naerys, Psyche, Shrek, Save the Dragons, shaddowez, BBmolla, Doctor Drew
iamveryhappy, camelCasedSnivy, davesaz, bob3141, TemporalLich, pisskop

biancospino

-- idk/null tier
furtiveglance, Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo, ZZZX, Aisa

Merlyn

Scum

I'm all caught up, AMA

like aside from the obvious 'hey look i have different reads' in a JV SR and the guy who's SRing you this is kinda nothing

[Shrek]

Town

Random Nurse, Klazam, Flavor Leaf, the worst
Naerys, Psyche, Shrek, Save the Dragons, shaddowez, BBmolla, Doctor Drew
iamveryhappy, camelCasedSnivy, davesaz, bob3141, TemporalLich, pisskop

biancospino

-- idk/null tier
furtiveglance, Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo, ZZZX, Aisa

Merlyn

Scum

I'm all caught up, AMA

like aside from the obvious 'hey look i have different reads' in a JV SR and the guy who's SRing you this is kinda nothing

??? This read list was made before Hu tao scumread me

I don't know if anyone was scumreading the aisa slot, not sure about furtive

People think I'm also suss for having the worst and random nurse so high lol

i was referring to furtive there but apparently neither of them were SRing you at the time. that's my bad on the reading comprehension

[Shrek]

oh that's interesting

now i'm suspicious of all the people who went 'klazam is so towny' after his justification for the vote on psyche

[Shrek]

VOTE: worst

i can get down for this.

[Shrek]

Position	Players
Town-read	-
Town-lean	-
Null-town	-
Null	-
Null-scum	Flavor Leaf2
Scum-lean	Psyche1
Scum-read	-

¹ JV claims to have a guilty on Psyche, about a Loyal Fruit being given. Psyche refuses to clarify despite me asking MULTIPLE times for clarification. Psyche now says that he didn't receive any fruit, so someone's lying.

² Has called me Scum multiple times but when I confront him to explain himself he cowers back, multiple times.

Answer me.

why cant JV be telling the truth about targeting psyche with loyal fruit and psyche telling the truth about not getting one

[Shrek]

how is it unlikely?

[Shrek]

they can both be telling the truth without any blocks lol

if psyche is indeed scum it’s impossible for him to get a

loyal fruit

. so he WOULD be telling the truth about not getting one

in any case there’s no real point in lying about not getting a fruit so i don’t see what you’re getting at

[Shrek]

if nobody was roleblocked and you are scum who was successfully targeted by loyal fruit vendor, you’d be telling the truth in saying you didn’t get one, no?

[Shrek]

did zzzx even post at all day 2

[Shrek]

okay okay i'm caught up now

[Shrek]

STD always lurks, this behavior isnt alignment indicative. i don't really buy the meta case on them nor do i think that's usually a good way to read people

i could hammer but i also could not and see what happens

[Shrek]

now this? sure

VOTE: CSF

[Shrek]

now this? sure

VOTE: CSF

What about STD and their claim?

duplicate roles can exist in a game. multiple rolestoppers is implausible but i don’t see why STD would claim this as scum when there’s already one in the graveyard

[Shrek]

What a time to decide to vote off the point. Do you have any other SRs?

worst, CSF, CCS, naerys, and enchant in ascending order

[Shrek]

... Because he is a roleblcoker/jailkeep/stopper?

but we know there is one already, which is my point. why would a scum blocker not just claim VT instead of a role that’s already in the graveyard

[Shrek]

... Because he is a roleblcoker/jailkeep/stopper?

but we know there is one already, which is my point. why would a scum blocker not just claim VT instead of a role that’s already in the graveyard

When was the last time a VT claim saved scum from elim?

i’m making an example that this is probably the worst possible thing to claim if StD is actually scum and i’m willing to heartily drink the WIFOM

[Shrek]

he didn't claim until day 2

Alright, so I'm at work again and will post as able soon.

Also, I'm 2-Shot Bulletproof (don't b*tch to me).

Awaiting to see how Scum respond to the news.

looks like day 2 to me i see nothing wrong with this