TM 2023 | Masterchef MafiaScum (Game over)

McMenno · Post Post #107 (isolation #0) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:34 pm

yes, I'm here now. who's scum? is it VOTE: norwee?

McMenno · Post Post #121 (isolation #1) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:26 am

In post 109, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 107, McMenno wrote: yes, I'm here now. who's scum? is it VOTE: norwee?
Well, is it?

oh... yeah

In post 117, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 107, McMenno wrote: yes, I'm here now. who's scum? is it VOTE: norwee?
No, are you reading?

found the scumteam, pack it up

McMenno · Post Post #125 (isolation #2) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:48 am

In post 123, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 121, McMenno wrote:
In post 117, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 107, McMenno wrote: yes, I'm here now. who's scum? is it VOTE: norwee?
No, are you reading?
found the scumteam, pack it up
This take feels fake as fuck. Based on what? Them not agreeing with you means partners?

give me 1 reason why I should take this post seriously

McMenno · Post Post #130 (isolation #3) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:15 am

keep flailing <3

McMenno · Post Post #133 (isolation #4) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:27 am

didn't you recently play a game against me where I was scum

McMenno · Post Post #136 (isolation #5) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:53 am

opposing teams

McMenno · Post Post #138 (isolation #6) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:29 am

ig it makes sense that you'd say that

McMenno · Post Post #208 (isolation #7) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:20 am

that comment earlier was kinda srs
but I don't think norwee is as scummy anymore
also didn't read the first four pages but who cares

In post 198, furtiveglance wrote: Norwee golden obvtown, elect God of thread

Korina shady

McMenno shady

Bianco mistake sus? Or clueless?

Aristeia sus

Aureal unsus

Dessew sus

Kawaii sus

Kthxbai

u can't just call me shady while just doing a 10x worse version of my posting
VOTE: furtive

McMenno · Post Post #211 (isolation #8) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:05 am

In post 209, furtiveglance wrote: It was post-ironically self aware smh

wow so funny

McMenno · Post Post #212 (isolation #9) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:05 am

now die scum

McMenno · Post Post #247 (isolation #10) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:43 pm

In post 228, Aristeia wrote:kawaii has posted 1 time and

I'm always happy to kill people like kawaii whenever

McMenno · Post Post #276 (isolation #11) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:42 pm

In post 253, Aristeia wrote: who on your team approves of this course of action btw?

we discussed it in our scum pt, thought it might work out

McMenno · Post Post #277 (isolation #12) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:43 pm

In post 275, Aureal wrote:
In post 242, Korina wrote:
In post 240, Aristeia wrote: like have you never seen a micro get to e-1 with 4 town votes ?
I've seen it happen, but I don't think it's something that happens frequently enough to be the basis of an argument in RVS/early game. At that point, you are arguing for a statistical wonder because the votes for something like that are more or less random in my eyes.

You saying scum are more likely than town to try to grow an RVS wagon? Why? Have you ever seen an RVS wagon actually get a mislim?

plenty

McMenno · Post Post #284 (isolation #13) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm

the audacity of replacing out of the smallest game only to then try to replace into the event again

not to mention that is shady as hell

VOTE: Doctor Drew

McMenno · Post Post #285 (isolation #14) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:02 pm

I want this slot GONE by the end of the week

McMenno · Post Post #287 (isolation #15) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:04 pm

you heard me, buddy. thank your predecessor

McMenno · Post Post #289 (isolation #16) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:10 pm

start voting me then

McMenno · Post Post #290 (isolation #17) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:10 pm

see how far you can go

McMenno · Post Post #294 (isolation #18) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:12 pm

then stop talking about "cans of whoop ass" when all you've got are wet farts

McMenno · Post Post #316 (isolation #19) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:24 am

In post 305, Aureal wrote: Nah, it's just Kawaii. Wanna hear about the time they got 40 pages into a game without even understanding a basic game mechanic? Or the time they outed their mason team in a newbie game (a known setup) to avoid having the cop that couldn't possibly exist counterclaim them? Or the time- well I should stop there.

My point was, hi Drew! Nice to see you even though it probably means I'm doomed!

I don't really think that's the same thing

In post 312, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Fire thinks Ari/Korina//Menno/Furtive should get a day 1 pass. Bianco leantown. And that we should kill in leftover slots Aureal/Dessew/Kawaii
Also they want to say that 62 was a bad vote by Aureal.

no way s he saying that first thing on an alignment basis

McMenno · Post Post #317 (isolation #20) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:24 am

McMenno · Post Post #321 (isolation #21) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:23 am

In post 318, Doctor Drew wrote: Who are you referring to McMenno?

firebringer

McMenno · Post Post #342 (isolation #22) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:50 pm

In post 338, Aristeia wrote: I don't feel great about our odds of hitting scum today

anyone have some high conviction reads

what do you think

McMenno · Post Post #395 (isolation #23) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:23 pm

In post 378, Aureal wrote: Like, I kinda want to townread Ari for making good points about Drew. But I'm also terrified of her attitude mismatch between this game and the micro we played before. I might need to try digging into her meta, see if she gets upset easily as scum. Like I have time to do that. x_x

can you at least vote drew for that if not townreading her

McMenno · Post Post #409 (isolation #24) » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:54 pm

In post 397, Aureal wrote:
In post 395, McMenno wrote:
In post 378, Aureal wrote: Like, I kinda want to townread Ari for making good points about Drew. But I'm also terrified of her attitude mismatch between this game and the micro we played before. I might need to try digging into her meta, see if she gets upset easily as scum. Like I have time to do that. x_x
can you at least vote drew for that if not townreading her
No, I don't have a double vote.

oh I forgot you were already voting him

McMenno · Post Post #435 (isolation #25) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:22 am

In post 411, biancospino wrote:
In post 390, Aristeia wrote: i really have no desire to talk to you

i hate you as a person
Yesh, I don't believe this is ever tilted scum. I don't see scum getting angry when pushed, regardless of the reasons, at most frustrated.

If Ari is scum this is deliberate AtE

not really scumreading the slot but like... come on. scum definitely gets angry when pushed

In post 432, Dessew wrote:Secondly, one of my three top scumreads are low activity, Menno. The other two are you, Aureal, and furtive, who's been very active on the voting front

I have about a million times the activity of you so you can fuck off with that

also welcome morning tweet

McMenno · Post Post #474 (isolation #26) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:51 pm

In post 472, Aureal wrote:
In post 284, McMenno wrote: the audacity of replacing out of the smallest game only to then try to replace into the event again

not to mention that is shady as hell

VOTE: Doctor Drew

Oh by the way, I finally realized maybe this was because you think Kawaii replaces out as scum? Is that why you're doing this? Because that's just not how it works- Kawaii did the same in my last game, posted once then vanished, and the slot was town. Check the last post in the bans thread if you want examples.

this wasn't a flake this was an active replace-out, look at the timestamps. also they tried to replace back into TM which is part 2

McMenno · Post Post #512 (isolation #27) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:58 pm

In post 500, Doctor Drew wrote: You are a thorough player Morning, you don't miss mechanics.

Your entrance to this game speaks to that.

VOTE: Morning

Pre Edit: If there is one player I am confident reading, it is Morning.....trust me Norwee

I am not moving my vote off this slot until it dies

McMenno · Post Post #518 (isolation #28) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:08 pm

In post 513, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 512, McMenno wrote:
In post 500, Doctor Drew wrote: You are a thorough player Morning, you don't miss mechanics.

Your entrance to this game speaks to that.

VOTE: Morning

Pre Edit: If there is one player I am confident reading, it is Morning.....trust me Norwee
I am not moving my vote off this slot until it dies
Congrats

You are irrelevant, spectate if you wish

can you explain your own relevance

McMenno · Post Post #520 (isolation #29) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:09 pm

In post 516, Morning Tweet wrote: Or moves them

Nightkills are replaced by "redistribution," which moves around ingredients to/from players.

come on

McMenno · Post Post #562 (isolation #30) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:34 am

not feeling great about this
dessew probably only about my fourth choice

McMenno · Post Post #615 (isolation #31) » Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:09 am

sorry for lack of posting
regarding scumreads asked earlier
furtive, outlined earlier
biancospino, been acting shady all game tbh not feeling great there

Aureal Korina... don't like that vote but not necessarily scumread

McMenno · Post Post #618 (isolation #32) » Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:29 am

okay fine if that gets to -1 I'll hammer

McMenno · Post Post #634 (isolation #33) » Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:41 pm

In post 632, Morning Tweet wrote: yall hear sum?

no

McMenno · Post Post #658 (isolation #34) » Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:27 am

In post 640, Dessew wrote: The role is confirmable, so it'd take a very
special
player, like Menno, to hammer me

can you elaborate on that one chief

McMenno · Post Post #676 (isolation #35) » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:44 am

I know I'm not okay with Dessew dying, that wagoon is sus as hell

McMenno · Post Post #683 (isolation #36) » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:38 am

one more let's get this bag

McMenno · Post Post #686 (isolation #37) » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:43 am

VOTE: bianco

McMenno · Post Post #688 (isolation #38) » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:44 am

too late buddy

McMenno · Post Post #696 (isolation #39) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:05 pm

furtive interactions with bianco:
puts him at "townlean" throughout the day
unvotes Dessew at eod, no mention of anything else (norwee's bianco wagon)

VOTE: furtive

McMenno · Post Post #718 (isolation #40) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:14 pm

In post 706, Doctor Drew wrote:Their initial hinting at their role is that they cannot be elim'ed, suggesting that mechanically speaking they can't be

they didn't mean it in a mechanical way

McMenno · Post Post #796 (isolation #41) » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:20 am

I'm also a pr but not gonna claim yet

McMenno · Post Post #797 (isolation #42) » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:24 am

and I lost one ingredient

McMenno · Post Post #805 (isolation #43) » Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:14 am

UNVOTE:
I mean, the other roles in the game don't really have an equivalent for normal mafia, so... besides, a neighboriser should be easy to prove
I might vote Korina later

McMenno · Post Post #810 (isolation #44) » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:18 am

I can confirm that I lost an ingredient at least

McMenno · Post Post #817 (isolation #45) » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:58 pm

In post 813, Dessew wrote: Here's my logic, because I won't wait for Korina anymore.

Stealing and eavesdropping are behaviours a contestant on Masterchef could exhibit if they wanted to win the show. An inspector and a redistributor are people you'd find in the production crew. Point is, "you're a contestant and a thief/eavesdropper" makes sense thematically, while "inspector/redistributor" doesn't.

How does neighbouriser fit into the picture? I don't know. If it's true, then it looks more town than mafia, but either way it's a bit of a stretch. Furtive also might have just made it up.

What I'm 100% certain about is that Drew is mafia. I know I'm a Thief, I know bianco was an Inspector. In this context, when Drew said he was a Redistributor, he might as well have claimed Goon. There's just no other possibility.

@Menno, Korina: what do you think?

Added bonus: there's surely no more than three mafia in the game, so once we lim Drew, confirming furtive's alignment should be trivial.

if you're still married to the fact that scum are flavoured after judges after that bianco flip, I'm not sure what to say. this spec is terrible, sorry.

I'll VOTE: Korina for now, put the pressure on.

McMenno · Post Post #818 (isolation #46) » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:58 pm

the idea*

McMenno · Post Post #827 (isolation #47) » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:37 pm

You know that 2v7 is already scumsided by default, right? 3v6 would be RIDICULOUS.

McMenno · Post Post #828 (isolation #48) » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:38 pm

like can people in this game please stop speccing if they fucking suck at it

McMenno · Post Post #856 (isolation #49) » Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:26 pm

In post 841, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 3, lilith2013 wrote:
SetupNightkills are replaced by
"redistribution,"
which moves around ingredients to/from players.

In post 758, Doctor Drew wrote: Also since we are all claiming.

I am a
redistributor.
I can take ingredients from two people(or the shelf) and give them to two other people.

This is why I don't believe Dessew.
Like is this not the funniest shit in the world if Drew is scum

this is more convincing than any argument dessew has made

McMenno · Post Post #894 (isolation #50) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:11 am

this is going nowhere can someone hammer

McMenno · Post Post #898 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:45 am

McMenno · Post Post #906 (isolation #52) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:11 pm

furtive can u neighborise dessew tonight

McMenno · Post Post #912 (isolation #53) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:35 pm

nah I'm good

McMenno · Post Post #920 (isolation #54) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:14 pm

wooo let's go gamers thanks for the game lilith

McMenno · Post Post #939 (isolation #55) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:07 pm

it had approximately 0 impact on the game result