TM 2023 | Open: PYP S_TM | Endgame

Ythan · Post Post #16 (isolation #0) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:17 pm

Hello friends!

Ythan · Post Post #23 (isolation #1) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:20 pm

VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

The argument you are making does not make any sense to me.

<3

Ythan · Post Post #28 (isolation #2) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:22 pm

In post 20, Alisae wrote:
In post 16, Ythan wrote: Hello friends!

Groovy~

Ythan · Post Post #30 (isolation #3) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:24 pm

In post 25, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 23, Ythan wrote: VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

The argument you are making does not make any sense to me.

<3
Just because you're not capable of understanding the math and history behind this open setup that leads to this logic being correct does not make it not correct.

Nor does your lack of understanding it make me scum.

From my perspective it looks like you're full of shit though and you aren't actually explaining any of this math/history/logic in a way that makes me feel differently!

Ythan · Post Post #32 (isolation #4) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:26 pm

In post 26, Alisae wrote: wait no ythan it was this one

this is basically k-on right?????

Burt is Mugi (eyebrows)

Ythan · Post Post #33 (isolation #5) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:26 pm

Bert? Lol

Ythan · Post Post #36 (isolation #6) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:28 pm

In post 34, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 30, Ythan wrote:
In post 25, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 23, Ythan wrote: VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

The argument you are making does not make any sense to me.

<3
Just because you're not capable of understanding the math and history behind this open setup that leads to this logic being correct does not make it not correct.

Nor does your lack of understanding it make me scum.
From my perspective it looks like you're full of shit though and you aren't actually explaining any of this math/history/logic in a way that makes me feel differently!
I'm literally explaining it, and you're literally not engaging with the explinations.

You're just saying "it doesn't make sense and you're not explaining" which is an incredibly frustrating way to go about this.

If you don't understand, ask and assess then, instead of whatever this assumption shit is.

Show me where you explained before my post then.

Ythan · Post Post #42 (isolation #7) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:31 pm

In post 39, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 36, Ythan wrote:
In post 34, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 30, Ythan wrote:
In post 25, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 23, Ythan wrote: VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

The argument you are making does not make any sense to me.

<3
Just because you're not capable of understanding the math and history behind this open setup that leads to this logic being correct does not make it not correct.

Nor does your lack of understanding it make me scum.
From my perspective it looks like you're full of shit though and you aren't actually explaining any of this math/history/logic in a way that makes me feel differently!
I'm literally explaining it, and you're literally not engaging with the explinations.

You're just saying "it doesn't make sense and you're not explaining" which is an incredibly frustrating way to go about this.

If you don't understand, ask and assess then, instead of whatever this assumption shit is.
Show me where you explained before my post then.
Ah yes, that old chestnut of you asking me on the TOP OF PAGE FUCKING 2 to explain in EXTENSIVE DETAIL something I am explaining truthfully and fielding questions about AS YOU POST IT.

But you just said you did explain it...

Ythan · Post Post #46 (isolation #8) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:33 pm

I'm not being defensive?? You're being like extremely defensive though. Are we reading the same game????

Ythan · Post Post #49 (isolation #9) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:34 pm

Just dropping out of retirement to nail LLD on page one of team mafia???

Ythan · Post Post #53 (isolation #10) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:36 pm

In post 34, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: I'm literally explaining it, and you're literally not engaging with the explinations.

You said this and then refused to point to where lol

Ythan · Post Post #56 (isolation #11) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:37 pm

In post 50, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: Like, again, why is Alisae the one engaging with me this way and you, the one voting/suspcious of me, are not trying to sort me by figuring it out at all.

You're just shading it instead.

I'm obviously engaging with something else right now lol and I think it's something productive

Ythan · Post Post #57 (isolation #12) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:37 pm

In post 50, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: Like, again, why is Alisae the one engaging with me this way and you, the one voting/suspcious of me, are not trying to sort me by figuring it out at all.

You're just shading it instead.

I'm obviously engaging with something else right now lol and I think it's something productive

Ythan · Post Post #59 (isolation #13) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:38 pm

In post 52, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 49, Ythan wrote: Just dropping out of retirement to nail LLD on page one of team mafia???
This is precisely the shit I mean.

It's sort of ironic that I did this exact shit to GreyICE literally almost a decade ago and was wrong, like you're wrong now.

And I'm just trying to figure out if you're the egotistical kind of wrong or the scum kind of wrong.

Yes reference a game from a decade I wasn't in lol

Ythan · Post Post #60 (isolation #14) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:38 pm

In post 55, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 53, Ythan wrote:
In post 34, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: I'm literally explaining it, and you're literally not engaging with the explinations.
You said this and then refused to point to where lol
MISS

I AM LITERALLY HAVING THE CONVERSATION WITH ALISAE

"I AM EXPLAINING IT MEANS I AM IN THE PROCESS OF EXPLAINING IT AND YOU'RE IGNORING IT"

It would be so easy to answer my question then.

Ythan · Post Post #63 (isolation #15) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:39 pm

@58 those aren't explanations except 31 which was after my post.

Ythan · Post Post #66 (isolation #16) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:41 pm

If I didn't think you were flailing scum I would be offended you accused me of trying to tilt you. I think you know better than that.

Ythan · Post Post #70 (isolation #17) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:43 pm

You just through out a bunch of buzz words and then called it an explanation. Sorry I didn't ask you to explain but that's irrelevant to what you are doing that is suspicious.

Ythan · Post Post #72 (isolation #18) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:44 pm

Threw? Threw.

Ythan · Post Post #73 (isolation #19) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:45 pm

In post 67, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 63, Ythan wrote: @58 those aren't explanations except 31 which was after my post.
After your post and BEFORE MINE Ythan.

And they ARE explinations. They require you to do a little research of the OPEN GAME TYPE and its history, but if you ASKED ME FOR THAT maybe I'd have done that work for you instead of having this stupid fight where I literally just want to fucking tell you to fuck off

Idk why you're being hyper aggressive but like I'm not so we can chill if you would prefer that.

Ythan · Post Post #78 (isolation #20) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:48 pm

eyeroll

Ythan · Post Post #80 (isolation #21) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:48 pm

but also <3

Ythan · Post Post #82 (isolation #22) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:49 pm

And you're totally engaging with my argument, uhuh

Ythan · Post Post #87 (isolation #23) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:54 pm

In post 85, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 80, Ythan wrote: but also <3
nah no fuckin' hearts i'm legit upset

this is a fucking null neutral strategy that you had the opportunity at any time to engage with or do even the slightest amount of work to see why anyone would believe this and instead you're like "nope nah seems fake bro" and while I try to explain it to alisae it's jsut more of that the whole time

i am about to burst into fucking tears because i'm so tired of dealing with people who just discredit me when I say shit like this without even doing the work to see if I'm RIGHT first

do you know how FRUSTRATING that is

It's like you haven't read a single one of my posts since I voted you. Your reaction is unbelievable, I think I made that pretty clear but if not it's explicit now.

Ythan · Post Post #95 (isolation #24) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:06 pm

We think you're trying to bait me into a flame war like you know I am susceptible to but if that's the case your error was in not accounting for the fact that I like you.

Ythan · Post Post #102 (isolation #25) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:08 pm

In post 97, Alisae wrote:
In post 95, Ythan wrote: We think you're trying to bait me into a flame war
didn't you start it?

No. If I'm mistaken please explain.

Ythan · Post Post #104 (isolation #26) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:10 pm

Compelling stuff.

Ythan · Post Post #109 (isolation #27) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:13 pm

In post 105, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 102, Ythan wrote:
In post 97, Alisae wrote:
In post 95, Ythan wrote: We think you're trying to bait me into a flame war
didn't you start it?
No. If I'm mistaken please explain.
you literally did i'm fhasdjkalsdsfkj

You are equally welcome to explain how, that's open to anyone who wants to argue you didn't explode on me out of the blue for no reason.

Ythan · Post Post #114 (isolation #28) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:16 pm

Fwiw I haven't tried to bait you.

Ythan · Post Post #119 (isolation #29) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:18 pm

In post 116, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 114, Ythan wrote: Fwiw I haven't tried to bait you.
given I think you're town at this point I suppose you must believe this is true

it's not.

Yes you totally know my intentions better than I do lol.

Ythan · Post Post #120 (isolation #30) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:20 pm

In post 117, Alisae wrote:
In post 102, Ythan wrote:
In post 97, Alisae wrote:
In post 95, Ythan wrote: We think you're trying to bait me into a flame war
didn't you start it?
No. If I'm mistaken please explain.
I feel like you basically attacked LLD for not explaining how she got to the conclusion that a wolf is in the 6s and I felt the way you did so was aimed at trying to provoke them. I felt like 49 was probably not necessary and adds just more fuel to the fire? I felt like instead of trying to see their point of view you just aimed at pushing her like they were the enemy.

You could come out with a push like this as both alignments but I think you're town. I too thought that if LLD didn't make sense she was likely a wolf in the past as well and I pushed town!LLD for the logic that she didn't make sense in the past as well but it's not like it's impossible for it to come from a wolf. I just think it's probably coming from a villager right now but I feel like if you're a villager it'll be a lot more obvious as the day goes on

Voting someone is not attempting to provoke them. Obviously. Obviously?

49 was a sincere brag.

Ythan · Post Post #122 (isolation #31) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:21 pm

In post 118, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: and you being like "i like you" "i'm not baiting you" only makes me more angry because now i'm wondering if there's something wrong with my fucking brain

I have a history of being really inflammatory so I'm used to people assuming the worst idk.

Ythan · Post Post #123 (isolation #32) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:22 pm

In post 121, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 119, Ythan wrote:
In post 116, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 114, Ythan wrote: Fwiw I haven't tried to bait you.
given I think you're town at this point I suppose you must believe this is true

it's not.
Yes you totally know my intentions better than I do lol.
Intentions aren't results.

Do you need me to say my post above more fucking clearly?

"I'm sure you believe this is true because you believe what you are saying is not incendiary or frustrating or supposed to cause anger."

In other words, I'm sure you didn't intend to bait me but it's not true, you ARE baiting me I've been saying it since this started about page 3 and been consistent in saying that. And you have another player saying it too.

Your intentions does not always equate your results.

I said I hadn't tried to bait you. I used that wording intentionally.

Ythan · Post Post #128 (isolation #33) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:23 pm

In post 124, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 120, Ythan wrote:
In post 117, Alisae wrote:
In post 102, Ythan wrote:
In post 97, Alisae wrote:
In post 95, Ythan wrote: We think you're trying to bait me into a flame war
didn't you start it?
No. If I'm mistaken please explain.
I feel like you basically attacked LLD for not explaining how she got to the conclusion that a wolf is in the 6s and I felt the way you did so was aimed at trying to provoke them. I felt like 49 was probably not necessary and adds just more fuel to the fire? I felt like instead of trying to see their point of view you just aimed at pushing her like they were the enemy.

You could come out with a push like this as both alignments but I think you're town. I too thought that if LLD didn't make sense she was likely a wolf in the past as well and I pushed town!LLD for the logic that she didn't make sense in the past as well but it's not like it's impossible for it to come from a wolf. I just think it's probably coming from a villager right now but I feel like if you're a villager it'll be a lot more obvious as the day goes on
Voting someone is not attempting to provoke them. Obviously. Obviously?

49 was a sincere brag.
Unless you are wrong in which case it is someone IGNORING THE FUCKING TOPIC OF CONVERSATION TO GET A FUCKING EGO STROKE ON WHILE THE PERSON YOU ARE DOING THIS WITH BEGS YOU TO ENGAGE THE ACTUAL TOPIC OF CONVERSATION

You don't get to say what the actual topic of conversation is because you want me to shut up.

Ythan · Post Post #131 (isolation #34) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:25 pm

In post 129, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 122, Ythan wrote:
In post 118, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: and you being like "i like you" "i'm not baiting you" only makes me more angry because now i'm wondering if there's something wrong with my fucking brain
I have a history of being really inflammatory so I'm used to people assuming the worst idk.
our literal first interaction is a game where we yelled for 50 pages at each other on day 1.

OoT probably? Memories~

Ythan · Post Post #134 (isolation #35) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:26 pm

In post 130, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 128, Ythan wrote:
In post 124, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 120, Ythan wrote:
In post 117, Alisae wrote:
In post 102, Ythan wrote:
In post 97, Alisae wrote:
In post 95, Ythan wrote: We think you're trying to bait me into a flame war
didn't you start it?
No. If I'm mistaken please explain.
I feel like you basically attacked LLD for not explaining how she got to the conclusion that a wolf is in the 6s and I felt the way you did so was aimed at trying to provoke them. I felt like 49 was probably not necessary and adds just more fuel to the fire? I felt like instead of trying to see their point of view you just aimed at pushing her like they were the enemy.

You could come out with a push like this as both alignments but I think you're town. I too thought that if LLD didn't make sense she was likely a wolf in the past as well and I pushed town!LLD for the logic that she didn't make sense in the past as well but it's not like it's impossible for it to come from a wolf. I just think it's probably coming from a villager right now but I feel like if you're a villager it'll be a lot more obvious as the day goes on
Voting someone is not attempting to provoke them. Obviously. Obviously?

49 was a sincere brag.
Unless you are wrong in which case it is someone IGNORING THE FUCKING TOPIC OF CONVERSATION TO GET A FUCKING EGO STROKE ON WHILE THE PERSON YOU ARE DOING THIS WITH BEGS YOU TO ENGAGE THE ACTUAL TOPIC OF CONVERSATION
You don't get to say what the actual topic of conversation is because you want me to shut up.
I provably don't. I provably want you to fucking actually ask me why I believe what I believe. I've been saying it for fucking pages.

I don't care about that?? I think you're scum because of your reaction, like I said earlier.

Ythan · Post Post #141 (isolation #36) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:28 pm

I sincerely hope you're cackling in a scum PT right now but if not and you're earnest I seriously apologize for upsetting you, for real.

Ythan · Post Post #143 (isolation #37) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:30 pm

In post 137, Alisae wrote:
In post 120, Ythan wrote:
In post 117, Alisae wrote:
In post 102, Ythan wrote:
In post 97, Alisae wrote:
In post 95, Ythan wrote: We think you're trying to bait me into a flame war
didn't you start it?
No. If I'm mistaken please explain.
I feel like you basically attacked LLD for not explaining how she got to the conclusion that a wolf is in the 6s and I felt the way you did so was aimed at trying to provoke them. I felt like 49 was probably not necessary and adds just more fuel to the fire? I felt like instead of trying to see their point of view you just aimed at pushing her like they were the enemy.

You could come out with a push like this as both alignments but I think you're town. I too thought that if LLD didn't make sense she was likely a wolf in the past as well and I pushed town!LLD for the logic that she didn't make sense in the past as well but it's not like it's impossible for it to come from a wolf. I just think it's probably coming from a villager right now but I feel like if you're a villager it'll be a lot more obvious as the day goes on
Voting someone is not attempting to provoke them. Obviously. Obviously?

49 was a sincere brag.
I think from your posting now, you probably didn't intend on it, but that is how it was received. I think 49 can be seen as a bit arrogant in the moment?

Oh for sure on both counts but there's only so much I can do about how people interpret my posts and I am a bit arrogant what's that got to do with anything lol.

Ythan · Post Post #144 (isolation #38) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:31 pm

In post 138, Alisae wrote: you two go so quickly I feel like I'm struggling to keep up lol

Welcome to it.

Ythan · Post Post #165 (isolation #39) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:45 pm

In post 140, Alisae wrote: idunno Ythan I thought the way you were interacting with LLD it seemed like you were egging her on which is why I thought that you were kind of provoking her.

Idk where you're referring to so not much for me to say to this.

Ythan · Post Post #167 (isolation #40) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:47 pm

In post 145, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 140, Alisae wrote: idunno Ythan I thought the way you were interacting with LLD it seemed like you were egging her on which is why I thought that you were kind of provoking her.
because she was

because she was fishign for a reaction and got anger and thinks that the anger and frustration is scummy which i guess is their right to believe.

They keep saying they think my reaction is impossible from town, which is....

I didn't say that. I find it unbelievable that you would react to the posts I made that way and I think you're faking it which means you are scum. I think that's a worthwhile distinction.

Ythan · Post Post #168 (isolation #41) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:48 pm

I'll consider whether you might fake it as town too.

Ythan · Post Post #169 (isolation #42) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:49 pm

In post 148, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 143, Ythan wrote:
In post 137, Alisae wrote:
In post 120, Ythan wrote:
In post 117, Alisae wrote:
In post 102, Ythan wrote:
In post 97, Alisae wrote:
In post 95, Ythan wrote: We think you're trying to bait me into a flame war
didn't you start it?
No. If I'm mistaken please explain.
I feel like you basically attacked LLD for not explaining how she got to the conclusion that a wolf is in the 6s and I felt the way you did so was aimed at trying to provoke them. I felt like 49 was probably not necessary and adds just more fuel to the fire? I felt like instead of trying to see their point of view you just aimed at pushing her like they were the enemy.

You could come out with a push like this as both alignments but I think you're town. I too thought that if LLD didn't make sense she was likely a wolf in the past as well and I pushed town!LLD for the logic that she didn't make sense in the past as well but it's not like it's impossible for it to come from a wolf. I just think it's probably coming from a villager right now but I feel like if you're a villager it'll be a lot more obvious as the day goes on
Voting someone is not attempting to provoke them. Obviously. Obviously?

49 was a sincere brag.
I think from your posting now, you probably didn't intend on it, but that is how it was received. I think 49 can be seen as a bit arrogant in the moment?
Oh for sure on both counts but there's only so much I can do about how people interpret my posts and I am a bit arrogant what's that got to do with anything lol.
the fact you can get to HERE and not to "i guess town could react this way" is mind boggling to me

You know me beyond this game though. I don't buy it.

Ythan · Post Post #172 (isolation #43) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:53 pm

That seems like a big share for a fake reaction but like you're devious. Still though, gives me pause.

Ythan · Post Post #174 (isolation #44) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:54 pm

In post 171, Alisae wrote:
In post 167, Ythan wrote:
In post 145, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 140, Alisae wrote: idunno Ythan I thought the way you were interacting with LLD it seemed like you were egging her on which is why I thought that you were kind of provoking her.
because she was

because she was fishign for a reaction and got anger and thinks that the anger and frustration is scummy which i guess is their right to believe.

They keep saying they think my reaction is impossible from town, which is....
I didn't say that. I find it unbelievable that you would react to the posts I made that way and I think you're faking it which means you are scum. I think that's a worthwhile distinction.
Why is it unbelievable?

I am pretty confident she would not assume I was trying to tilt her.

Ythan · Post Post #179 (isolation #45) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:56 pm

In post 173, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 169, Ythan wrote:
In post 148, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 143, Ythan wrote:
In post 137, Alisae wrote:
In post 120, Ythan wrote:
In post 117, Alisae wrote:
In post 102, Ythan wrote:
In post 97, Alisae wrote:
In post 95, Ythan wrote: We think you're trying to bait me into a flame war
didn't you start it?
No. If I'm mistaken please explain.
I feel like you basically attacked LLD for not explaining how she got to the conclusion that a wolf is in the 6s and I felt the way you did so was aimed at trying to provoke them. I felt like 49 was probably not necessary and adds just more fuel to the fire? I felt like instead of trying to see their point of view you just aimed at pushing her like they were the enemy.

You could come out with a push like this as both alignments but I think you're town. I too thought that if LLD didn't make sense she was likely a wolf in the past as well and I pushed town!LLD for the logic that she didn't make sense in the past as well but it's not like it's impossible for it to come from a wolf. I just think it's probably coming from a villager right now but I feel like if you're a villager it'll be a lot more obvious as the day goes on
Voting someone is not attempting to provoke them. Obviously. Obviously?

49 was a sincere brag.
I think from your posting now, you probably didn't intend on it, but that is how it was received. I think 49 can be seen as a bit arrogant in the moment?
Oh for sure on both counts but there's only so much I can do about how people interpret my posts and I am a bit arrogant what's that got to do with anything lol.
the fact you can get to HERE and not to "i guess town could react this way" is mind boggling to me
You know me beyond this game though. I don't buy it.
i know you less than i know my husband, girlfriend, abusive ex girlfriend when she wasn't abusive and several of my best friends.

All of whom I am not proud to say I have had this kind of anger with, and fully believed they were trying to fuck with me, often corretly, frequently when we were both town.

Hilariously in the first ever Team Mafia, GreyICE and I were on different teams in PYP, GreyICE made, as town, the argument I am making now. I, as town, didn't understand it and thought he was trying to manipulate the game. We got in a huge fight, similar to this one and then I killed him day 1. Town lost that game and he was 100% correct. He's never let me live it down.

I will take the first two paragraphs to heart but the third is just an anecdote with a moral of obvious benefit to you in this situation so I'm gonna just treat that one as a manipulation tactic.

Ythan · Post Post #180 (isolation #46) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:58 pm

In post 176, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 172, Ythan wrote: That seems like a big share for a fake reaction but like you're devious. Still though, gives me pause.
i would so much rather you think it never happened and kill me than think i'm town for it, or god worse think i'm scum and using it.

if i'm scum here, i'm genuinely feeling what i am describing, is the takeaway. i can be scum and genuinely feeling all of this and just tilting out of my fucking mind, i promise.

i'm town but if i was scum here this is the exact same reaction you'd get because i'm legit tilted

Understood.

Ythan · Post Post #183 (isolation #47) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:58 pm

I think you're buddying Alisae too.

Ythan · Post Post #186 (isolation #48) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:01 pm

In post 178, Alisae wrote:
In post 174, Ythan wrote:
In post 171, Alisae wrote:
In post 167, Ythan wrote:
In post 145, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 140, Alisae wrote: idunno Ythan I thought the way you were interacting with LLD it seemed like you were egging her on which is why I thought that you were kind of provoking her.
because she was

because she was fishign for a reaction and got anger and thinks that the anger and frustration is scummy which i guess is their right to believe.

They keep saying they think my reaction is impossible from town, which is....
I didn't say that. I find it unbelievable that you would react to the posts I made that way and I think you're faking it which means you are scum. I think that's a worthwhile distinction.
Why is it unbelievable?
I am pretty confident she would not assume I was trying to tilt her.
I find it to be super believable. I think it was very likely that she would get tilted tbh.

She's accusing me of actively trying to tilt her, that's different from getting tilted.

Ythan · Post Post #189 (isolation #49) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:15 pm

In post 182, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 174, Ythan wrote:
In post 171, Alisae wrote:
In post 167, Ythan wrote:
In post 145, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 140, Alisae wrote: idunno Ythan I thought the way you were interacting with LLD it seemed like you were egging her on which is why I thought that you were kind of provoking her.
because she was

because she was fishign for a reaction and got anger and thinks that the anger and frustration is scummy which i guess is their right to believe.

They keep saying they think my reaction is impossible from town, which is....
I didn't say that. I find it unbelievable that you would react to the posts I made that way and I think you're faking it which means you are scum. I think that's a worthwhile distinction.
Why is it unbelievable?
I am pretty confident she would not assume I was trying to tilt her.
I assure you I can and do, mostly thinking that you were doing it via tryign to read me and because of ego at this point and less intentionally but, yeah still do

You keep accusing me of

unintentionally

trying

to tilt you! But like!

Ythan · Post Post #190 (isolation #50) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:19 pm

In post 188, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Given I now think you're town, I think town you was doing things to tilt me to get a reaction, and that is something you would do.

I don't think that last bit is true but I do get in fights a lot so maybe you could get that impression, I'll think about it.

Ythan · Post Post #191 (isolation #51) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:21 pm

Like am I known to get into fights strategically? I don't think so? I think if you know me to be combative in games I think you would know it's consistently because I get tilted.

Ythan · Post Post #192 (isolation #52) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:22 pm

What's a good synonym for think lol

Ythan · Post Post #194 (isolation #53) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:26 pm

In post 193, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 191, Ythan wrote: Like am I known to get into fights strategically? I don't think so? I think if you know me to be combative in games I think you would know it's consistently because I get tilted.
you are from an era of gameplay that punches people in the throat and sees what shakes out

you literally are claiming my "reaction" is the scumread

and you're telling me you weren't trying to intentionally tilt me

no, more than that, you're telling me you don't think that I think you'd do this?

Fuck I used to do this. I haven't seen you play mafia in YEARS.

My initial vote on you was because I thought you were just spewing buzzwords with no meaning out substance. Your reaction made me dig in, butt I wasn't baiting one.

Ythan · Post Post #195 (isolation #54) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:26 pm

Meaning or*

Ythan · Post Post #196 (isolation #55) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:27 pm

In post 194, Ythan wrote: butt

Ythan · Post Post #198 (isolation #56) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:33 pm

The ethics of this game are kinda fuzzy and I'm pretty whatever about however other people want to approach it but I'm not into manipulating people's negative emotions for strategic purposes just fyi.

Ythan · Post Post #199 (isolation #57) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:35 pm

In post 197, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 194, Ythan wrote:
In post 193, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 191, Ythan wrote: Like am I known to get into fights strategically? I don't think so? I think if you know me to be combative in games I think you would know it's consistently because I get tilted.
you are from an era of gameplay that punches people in the throat and sees what shakes out

you literally are claiming my "reaction" is the scumread

and you're telling me you weren't trying to intentionally tilt me

no, more than that, you're telling me you don't think that I think you'd do this?

Fuck I used to do this. I haven't seen you play mafia in YEARS.
My initial vote on you was because I thought you were just spewing buzzwords with no meaning out substance. Your reaction made me dig in, butt I wasn't baiting one.
They aren't buzzwords ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

it's a logical argument about statistical likelyhoods based on prior Open Game outcomes and optimal play patterns.

You don't have to townread me for doing it, I'd do it as scum easily, but it's not scummy to want to do optimal play, nor is it buzzwordy to insist we engage in it. If you don't want to engage in it or don't trust it, engage with the argument. That was my WHOLE ASS POINT.

I do not see substance in the posts you made at that time. Unless you wanna dig into like specific examples that's all I got.

Ythan · Post Post #201 (isolation #58) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:37 pm

In post 200, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 199, Ythan wrote:
In post 197, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 194, Ythan wrote:
In post 193, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 191, Ythan wrote: Like am I known to get into fights strategically? I don't think so? I think if you know me to be combative in games I think you would know it's consistently because I get tilted.
you are from an era of gameplay that punches people in the throat and sees what shakes out

you literally are claiming my "reaction" is the scumread

and you're telling me you weren't trying to intentionally tilt me

no, more than that, you're telling me you don't think that I think you'd do this?

Fuck I used to do this. I haven't seen you play mafia in YEARS.
My initial vote on you was because I thought you were just spewing buzzwords with no meaning out substance. Your reaction made me dig in, butt I wasn't baiting one.
They aren't buzzwords ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

it's a logical argument about statistical likelyhoods based on prior Open Game outcomes and optimal play patterns.

You don't have to townread me for doing it, I'd do it as scum easily, but it's not scummy to want to do optimal play, nor is it buzzwordy to insist we engage in it. If you don't want to engage in it or don't trust it, engage with the argument. That was my WHOLE ASS POINT.
I do not see substance in the posts you made at that time. Unless you wanna dig into like specific examples that's all I got.
i gave you two specific examples, including the single most recently played PYP game onsite, which I referenced several times and contained precisely what I am talking about. Like every element I am talking about.

You made reference to another game in a way that I do not find substantive.

Ythan · Post Post #202 (isolation #59) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:39 pm

I'm talking about specific examples of substantive posts you made at that stage in this thread not specific examples you made at that time.

Ythan · Post Post #205 (isolation #60) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:41 pm

We are discussing why I initially voted you. If you want to dig into a post you had made before that that you feel contradicts what I said about your posting at that time we can do that.

Ythan · Post Post #206 (isolation #61) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:42 pm

Perhaps there is something specific you said about one of those games you would like to discuss?

Ythan · Post Post #209 (isolation #62) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:44 pm

I mean I'm not going to read them and if I do it won't be tonight at game start.

Ythan · Post Post #210 (isolation #63) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:46 pm

You sound like you're accustomed to people reading games they didn't play and if that's true I apologize for any inconvenience.

Ythan · Post Post #212 (isolation #64) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:47 pm

I'm barely reading this one (that's a joke)

Ythan · Post Post #218 (isolation #65) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:51 pm

In post 211, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: viewtopic.php?t=90403

In this PYP game, scum existed within the 3 grouping, pushed players at the top of the draft order to learn where power roles were to kill the cop, decidedly the scariest powerrole, and as a result nearly came back from a situation where all 3 mafia failed to obtain a single role and town only missed out on the Vigs in the draft.

It proves my point as a single evidence point regarding killing in groups where 3 or more players submit the same number and why pushing players at the top of the list is wrong, the draftign strategy of scum also proves why number theory is useful as a guider.

This would have been sort of substantive if you had posted it then. I'll look again at what you did post and get back to you.

Ythan · Post Post #221 (isolation #66) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:54 pm

Oh yeah VOTE: mith

VOTE: lld

Ythan · Post Post #231 (isolation #67) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:01 pm

In post 228, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: Is this fun for you, making me show you the history of this

No you can stop if you want it isn't really impacting my view of what you said at game start, which is a separate thing from the elaboration you are doing now after the fact. I apologize I expect that will be frustrating.

Ythan · Post Post #232 (isolation #68) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:02 pm

Is my avatar like infuriating

Ythan · Post Post #234 (isolation #69) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:03 pm

It's skewing even my own reading of my posts rn so I imagine it might be pretty obnoxious to you.

Ythan · Post Post #235 (isolation #70) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:04 pm

Also it feels like you're just like looking for some kind of like baseball stats to fill space with. I don't find what you're saying compelling I think you're fluffing. Sorry!

Ythan · Post Post #239 (isolation #71) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:06 pm

I already told you the reaction had surpassed the initial motivation of the vote!

Ythan · Post Post #242 (isolation #72) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:07 pm

In post 238, Alisae wrote:
In post 235, Ythan wrote: Also it feels like you're just like looking for some kind of like baseball stats to fill space with. I don't find what you're saying compelling I think you're fluffing. Sorry!
If you really feel this way why are you engaging with LLD?

She's a player in the game engaging with her is more meaningful to me than waxing on about how many scum picked x number in y games.

Ythan · Post Post #246 (isolation #73) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:09 pm

Besides I'm responding to her so like idk what to tell you.

Ythan · Post Post #251 (isolation #74) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:09 pm

In post 243, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 239, Ythan wrote: I already told you the reaction had surpassed the initial motivation of the vote!
Yes, and yet you have provided zero context for what that reaction is supposed to be.

It just feels like you have this ego trip and you don't want to be wrong because being wrong will mean you did something ridiculous and you can't have that can you.

Wrong. I told you I disbelieved that you would interpret my posts as intended to tilt you.

Ythan · Post Post #254 (isolation #75) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:10 pm

In post 248, Bellaphant wrote: Like now I want to tr alisea just for not shouting and sounding reasonable, and imaginality, a bit

I would enjoy a few examples of me shouting please.

Ythan · Post Post #260 (isolation #76) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:14 pm

In post 255, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 251, Ythan wrote:
In post 243, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 239, Ythan wrote: I already told you the reaction had surpassed the initial motivation of the vote!
Yes, and yet you have provided zero context for what that reaction is supposed to be.

It just feels like you have this ego trip and you don't want to be wrong because being wrong will mean you did something ridiculous and you can't have that can you.
Wrong. I told you I disbelieved that you would interpret my posts as intended to tilt you.
And I gave you like 3 reasons why I would, and you ignored that.

It's fine to not believe me, no actually it's not this whole fucking take of yours is so unreally beyond the pale.

but even if you don't believe me you're not progressing or responding at ALL

I don't believe you. Sometimes your arguments are not going to be compelling enough to change people's minds.

Ythan · Post Post #262 (isolation #77) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:15 pm

In post 257, Alisae wrote:
In post 242, Ythan wrote:
In post 238, Alisae wrote:
In post 235, Ythan wrote: Also it feels like you're just like looking for some kind of like baseball stats to fill space with. I don't find what you're saying compelling I think you're fluffing. Sorry!
If you really feel this way why are you engaging with LLD?
She's a player in the game engaging with her is more meaningful to me than waxing on about how many scum picked x number in y games.
I mean if she's a wolf as you say she is, why are you talking to her? You're giving her the impression that there are words that can be exchanged when in reality there's not

I'm not going to ignore questions and statements she directs to me. Do you honestly expect me to??

Ythan · Post Post #266 (isolation #78) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:17 pm

Lld I hope you're not still posting those for my sake because I've already explained to you why it is irrelevant to my vote. You can't just keep posting summaries of games and expect that to be relevant. Is there some other purpose? Are you just looking busy??

Ythan · Post Post #275 (isolation #79) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:21 pm

In post 263, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 260, Ythan wrote:
In post 255, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 251, Ythan wrote:
In post 243, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 239, Ythan wrote: I already told you the reaction had surpassed the initial motivation of the vote!
Yes, and yet you have provided zero context for what that reaction is supposed to be.

It just feels like you have this ego trip and you don't want to be wrong because being wrong will mean you did something ridiculous and you can't have that can you.
Wrong. I told you I disbelieved that you would interpret my posts as intended to tilt you.
And I gave you like 3 reasons why I would, and you ignored that.

It's fine to not believe me, no actually it's not this whole fucking take of yours is so unreally beyond the pale.

but even if you don't believe me you're not progressing or responding at ALL
I don't believe you. Sometimes your arguments are not going to be compelling enough to change people's minds.
So your plan is to pretend to engage with me while having 0 chance of actually being convinced while tunnelling me all game?

I told you why I think you're lying and you just keep repeating this same tired refrain. Shouting the same refrain loud enough long enough is not going to help. You keep talking about my ego but can you chill the fuck out trying to dictate that I have to believe everything you say thanks.

Ythan · Post Post #276 (isolation #80) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:21 pm

Oops I says refrain twice.

Ythan · Post Post #277 (isolation #81) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:21 pm

God damn it lol

Ythan · Post Post #278 (isolation #82) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:21 pm

Y'all I use Swype

Ythan · Post Post #285 (isolation #83) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:25 pm

In post 265, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: I'm just gonna quote that at you every time you talk from now on if that's okay.

If the whole concept here is you're just gonna do this for the rest of the game I'm just going to do that.

Making excuses

Ythan · Post Post #296 (isolation #84) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:33 pm

In post 267, Alisae wrote:
In post 262, Ythan wrote: I'm not going to ignore questions and statements she directs to me. Do you honestly expect me to??
I feel like you should if you think she's a wolf or if you're not willing to be open-minded about it.

If you think you can provide one example of a post where I indicated that I was not willing to be open-minded to the possibility that I am wrong then I would love to see it, otherwise idk what you're getting at.

Ythan · Post Post #298 (isolation #85) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:34 pm

In post 272, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 266, Ythan wrote: Lld I hope you're not still posting those for my sake because I've already explained to you why it is irrelevant to my vote. You can't just keep posting summaries of games and expect that to be relevant. Is there some other purpose? Are you just looking busy??
I am fucking proving my fucking point.

Just because you're too fucking stuck up your own arse to understand how statistics works doesn't mean others aren't.

I'm doing it because fuck you and also because people might actually see a fucking pattern if I do this so

Okay could you please be a little less fucking hostile.

Ythan · Post Post #300 (isolation #86) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:35 pm

In post 280, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 275, Ythan wrote:
In post 263, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 260, Ythan wrote:
In post 255, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 251, Ythan wrote:
In post 243, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 239, Ythan wrote: I already told you the reaction had surpassed the initial motivation of the vote!
Yes, and yet you have provided zero context for what that reaction is supposed to be.

It just feels like you have this ego trip and you don't want to be wrong because being wrong will mean you did something ridiculous and you can't have that can you.
Wrong. I told you I disbelieved that you would interpret my posts as intended to tilt you.
And I gave you like 3 reasons why I would, and you ignored that.

It's fine to not believe me, no actually it's not this whole fucking take of yours is so unreally beyond the pale.

but even if you don't believe me you're not progressing or responding at ALL
I don't believe you. Sometimes your arguments are not going to be compelling enough to change people's minds.
So your plan is to pretend to engage with me while having 0 chance of actually being convinced while tunnelling me all game?
I told you why I think you're lying and you just keep repeating this same tired refrain. Shouting the same refrain loud enough long enough is not going to help. You keep talking about my ego but can you chill the fuck out trying to dictate that I have to believe everything you say thanks.
then don't engage with it.

I'm doing my own thing, you're the one who asked "are you still doing this because of me"

you're the one who keeps re-engaging to have the last word

I was being sincere. It seems like a lot of effort if that was your purpose.

Ythan · Post Post #301 (isolation #87) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:36 pm

In post 282, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: let me have the last word or admit this isn't about anythign but your ego

This is clearly about your ego jfc.

Ythan · Post Post #304 (isolation #88) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:37 pm

In post 286, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: cause I'm comfortable enough to admit this is largely about my ego at this point

i want to prove you wrong

Oh lol

Ythan · Post Post #305 (isolation #89) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:38 pm

In post 287, Alisae wrote: am I going to have to deal with ythan v lld all game?

Lld vs ythan, please

Ythan · Post Post #306 (isolation #90) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:39 pm

In post 288, imaginality wrote: I agree with LLD's broader point about not pushing the top draft order too early. Though, it's a risk reward thing because if someone near the top is scum then they could have a role that could be worse for us if they get to use it (e.g. vig). But it seems reasonable to give them a ride through D1 at least.

I still don't get why LLD, if you think scum are gonna gambit by pairing, they'd do it on a number you say is the most likely to be picked, compared to a different number. But I don't get why you see the number distribution of "unique lowest" drafts to be relevant to this "unique median" draft anyhow.

In other news Rad feels town to me, 94 seemed to be genuinely trying to get a read on LLD.

In post 248, Bellaphant wrote: Like now I want to tr alisea just for not shouting and sounding reasonable, and imaginality, a bit

Mood.
I was about to say the same about Bellaphont lol.

Seriously though, given the last game I was in scum won by basically outposting and talking over everyone else the whole game I am inclined to vote someone quicker this game if they are drowning out the game.

P-edit, yeah like Alisae said, make sure the interactions have value beyond "someone is wrong on the internet!"

Yeah this, also the post you made earlier. The point up top is good but the rest is not.

Ythan · Post Post #328 (isolation #91) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:53 pm

In post 306, Ythan wrote:
In post 288, imaginality wrote: I agree with LLD's broader point about not pushing the top draft order too early. Though, it's a risk reward thing because if someone near the top is scum then they could have a role that could be worse for us if they get to use it (e.g. vig). But it seems reasonable to give them a ride through D1 at least.

I still don't get why LLD, if you think scum are gonna gambit by pairing, they'd do it on a number you say is the most likely to be picked, compared to a different number. But I don't get why you see the number distribution of "unique lowest" drafts to be relevant to this "unique median" draft anyhow.

In other news Rad feels town to me, 94 seemed to be genuinely trying to get a read on LLD.

In post 248, Bellaphant wrote: Like now I want to tr alisea just for not shouting and sounding reasonable, and imaginality, a bit

Mood.
I was about to say the same about Bellaphont lol.

Seriously though, given the last game I was in scum won by basically outposting and talking over everyone else the whole game I am inclined to vote someone quicker this game if they are drowning out the game.

P-edit, yeah like Alisae said, make sure the interactions have value beyond "someone is wrong on the internet!"
Yeah this, also the post you made earlier. The point up top is good but the rest is not.

To clarify I agree with both things you're saying, in agreeing and disagreeing with different things she was saying.

Ythan · Post Post #334 (isolation #92) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:58 pm

In post 297, Alisae wrote:
In post 296, Ythan wrote:
In post 267, Alisae wrote:
In post 262, Ythan wrote: I'm not going to ignore questions and statements she directs to me. Do you honestly expect me to??
I feel like you should if you think she's a wolf or if you're not willing to be open-minded about it.
If you think you can provide one example of a post where I indicated that I was not willing to be open-minded to the possibility that I am wrong then I would love to see it, otherwise idk what you're getting at.

In post 231, Ythan wrote: No you can stop if you want it isn't really impacting my view of what you said at game start, which is a separate thing from the elaboration you are doing now after the fact. I apologize I expect that will be frustrating.

That's me saying that one track she had pursued was irrelevant and not changing my mind. That is a different thing from saying I'm not open to being wrong. Substantially different.

Ythan · Post Post #336 (isolation #93) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:01 pm

Bad. You keep taking digs at me that fall apart quickly enough that it's hard to believe you really mean them. And you and lld's interactions are getting progressively grosser.

Ythan · Post Post #338 (isolation #94) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:03 pm

Keep that ego wrapped up tight lol.

Ythan · Post Post #341 (isolation #95) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:08 pm

If you think your comment warranted more than equal snark idk what to tell you.

Ythan · Post Post #345 (isolation #96) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:14 pm

In post 327, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 320, Alisae wrote:
In post 318, Menalque wrote: Also if the game is moving this fast then imma be honest, I’m probably not gonna be playing that much until like d3 when numbers have gone down
Ythan and LLD have been fighting a lot for the past few pages and it REALLY added a lot to the thread and I'm not happy with it. It shows no signs of stopping which is
also like, half my posting has been doing game solving with you so

You two trying awfully hard to cast the thread thus far in a certain light.

Ythan · Post Post #347 (isolation #97) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:23 pm

Thanks I really appreciate you continuing to make it personal.

Ythan · Post Post #349 (isolation #98) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:27 pm

I would dm you or something but ongoing game, can you please remember that that's what we're doing here and that I personally like you a lot and that while I suspect you are lying to me I just want to play a game with you and find all the hostility pretty hurtful.

<3

Ythan · Post Post #353 (isolation #99) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:32 pm

Ythan · Post Post #880 (isolation #100) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:45 pm

In post 529, Alisae wrote:
@Ythan
- Can I talk to Titus? What does Titus think is going on in this game? If she has any reads I would like to hear them!

Incoming response to this

Ythan · Post Post #885 (isolation #101) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:06 pm

This is from Tuesday evening.

Bella is her biggest scumread. Doesn't scumread LLD. Says LLD is a hard read for her. Leans town because she brought out evidence that undermines her argument.

Thinks Bella and Dat might be aligned based on their interactions. Doesn't like Alisae Imaginality reactions.

Buys LLD's theory but thinks we still shouldn't exclusively be voting in the 6s because it cuts off investigation of other slots and encourages the sixes to claim or form a brick wall and the latter would be bad.

Says she would vote Imaginality or Alisae or maybe Bella. Leaning against Bella because she doesn't want to fight LLD. Says Imaginality is slower and unlikely to generate much reaction, and Alisae might generate too much.

Then says fuck it vote Alisae.

Ythan · Post Post #891 (isolation #102) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:34 pm

In post 880, Ythan wrote:
In post 529, Alisae wrote:
@Ythan
- Can I talk to Titus? What does Titus think is going on in this game? If she has any reads I would like to hear them!
Incoming response to this

Here you go!

Ythan · Post Post #892 (isolation #103) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:34 pm

Ali I like your new avatar.

Ythan · Post Post #897 (isolation #104) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:45 pm

LLD Titus asks if you have any quick thoughts for her to stew on.

Ythan · Post Post #906 (isolation #105) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:58 pm

In post 900, Alisae wrote:
In post 892, Ythan wrote: Ali I like your new avatar.
Thanks.
I don't quite understand why Titus wants to vote me, I feel like I should be an easy townread for her to identify.

I don't know what to say to that besides maybe you're scum then lol

Ythan · Post Post #911 (isolation #106) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:08 pm

LLD Titus is going to bed but says your constructs are putting blinders on reading the whole game, part of your power is your unpredictable rage, only four slots fear you and can work with their teams, opening the pool is best, look closer at Bella and Datisi especially her Datisi Alisae theory, Dat TRing you because you TR Ali is partnery, and there's a lot of that in their isos.

Ythan · Post Post #912 (isolation #107) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:10 pm

In post 909, Alisae wrote:
In post 906, Ythan wrote:
In post 900, Alisae wrote:
In post 892, Ythan wrote: Ali I like your new avatar.
Thanks.
I don't quite understand why Titus wants to vote me, I feel like I should be an easy townread for her to identify.
I don't know what to say to that besides maybe you're scum then lol
Titus rarely actually has a fos on me ever when we play in games. I can fool her easily as a wolf and I work well with her as a villager, especially because I know her play extremely well. I'm amazing at reading Titus.

The fact that Titus wants to vote me off, idunno what to do with that information, I'm still processing. She usually never fos' me

Have you caught up? If so do you have reads? More players have posted and I would like to know where your head is at on them!

Not really caught up no.

Ythan · Post Post #937 (isolation #108) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:17 pm

Hey LLD Xof would like to know what b'y means.

Ythan · Post Post #940 (isolation #109) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:42 pm

Thanks like I could have given some kind of answer but probably best for you to.

Ythan · Post Post #951 (isolation #110) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:05 pm

I call my cat Baby B'y for short. Or it might be 'by I'll have to think about it.

Ythan · Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:43 am

I don't like the accusations that someone is going to play victim if you say something idk aggressive to them. Preemptively. @friend lld

Ythan · Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:38 am

In post 1050, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1048, Ythan wrote: I don't like the accusations that someone is going to play victim if you say something idk aggressive to them. Preemptively. @friend lld
They are informed by a game long attempt from Bella to tone police me continuing onto that page.

Sorry you don't like them. They feel accurate to my experiences.

Cool thanks for explaining.

Ythan · Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:42 am

Genuine. <3

Ythan · Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:44 am

In post 1242, Staeg wrote: I really want to lim both Rad and Mara but they're near definitely not scum together

@Ythan
In post 417, Staeg wrote: Ythan, I'm confused about your read progression on LLD - at the time of your vote LLD indeed hadn't given much substance to her theory argument, but through all the good and bad arguments LLD gives afterwards you don't seem to move much at all. I gather that you're not fond of her reaction to the vote and that more theory arguments swing and miss, but what is the thing that she's doing which is actually suspicious?

(I don't have strong takes on the extended battle beyond not getting how as either alignment LLD and Ythan keep talking past each other)
This might be me failing at reading comprehension but I have absolutely no idea what you think about anyone at all in the game right now except maybe Bella scum and possibly LLD because your vote's stuck there

(sort of related side point: I assume that some of you are getting something out of the proxy-reads like "ah yes let me channel the spirit of the great Titus to impart entirely orthogonal reads onto the thread" but my eyes glaze over)

I actually haven't dived into Bella-scum that's just a team read, my number two would be Ali.

Ythan · Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:49 am

In post 1254, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1252, Ythan wrote:
In post 1242, Staeg wrote: I really want to lim both Rad and Mara but they're near definitely not scum together

@Ythan
In post 417, Staeg wrote: Ythan, I'm confused about your read progression on LLD - at the time of your vote LLD indeed hadn't given much substance to her theory argument, but through all the good and bad arguments LLD gives afterwards you don't seem to move much at all. I gather that you're not fond of her reaction to the vote and that more theory arguments swing and miss, but what is the thing that she's doing which is actually suspicious?

(I don't have strong takes on the extended battle beyond not getting how as either alignment LLD and Ythan keep talking past each other)
This might be me failing at reading comprehension but I have absolutely no idea what you think about anyone at all in the game right now except maybe Bella scum and possibly LLD because your vote's stuck there

(sort of related side point: I assume that some of you are getting something out of the proxy-reads like "ah yes let me channel the spirit of the great Titus to impart entirely orthogonal reads onto the thread" but my eyes glaze over)
I actually haven't dived into Bella-scum that's just a team read, my number two would be Ali.
to be clear you still think I'm scum at this point?

I do~ <3

Ythan · Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:36 am

In post 1259, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1257, Ythan wrote:
In post 1254, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1252, Ythan wrote:
In post 1242, Staeg wrote: I really want to lim both Rad and Mara but they're near definitely not scum together

@Ythan
In post 417, Staeg wrote: Ythan, I'm confused about your read progression on LLD - at the time of your vote LLD indeed hadn't given much substance to her theory argument, but through all the good and bad arguments LLD gives afterwards you don't seem to move much at all. I gather that you're not fond of her reaction to the vote and that more theory arguments swing and miss, but what is the thing that she's doing which is actually suspicious?

(I don't have strong takes on the extended battle beyond not getting how as either alignment LLD and Ythan keep talking past each other)
This might be me failing at reading comprehension but I have absolutely no idea what you think about anyone at all in the game right now except maybe Bella scum and possibly LLD because your vote's stuck there

(sort of related side point: I assume that some of you are getting something out of the proxy-reads like "ah yes let me channel the spirit of the great Titus to impart entirely orthogonal reads onto the thread" but my eyes glaze over)
I actually haven't dived into Bella-scum that's just a team read, my number two would be Ali.
to be clear you still think I'm scum at this point?
I do~ <3
have you bothered to read anything else that has happened this game, or is this just like "I want to be right about catching LLD day 1 so I'm going to marry myself to this and never let doubt creep in".

I've spoken on why I'm voting for you and I'm not interested in humoring the way you're still trying to mischaracterize me lol

Ythan · Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:00 am

Lld please don't talk to me about humility

Ythan · Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:15 pm

Sigh are we killing someone yet

Ythan · Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:16 pm

I had positive feelings toward Imaginality's posting but I guess I can take a look

Ythan · Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:25 am

Actually going to look at this wagon today/tonight frfr

Ythan · Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:14 pm

My familiar spirits have been sharing a variety of opinions which I will now share with you in reverse chronological order.

Gimli's return bad.

Need more from Gimli.

1909 best Mena post.

Mith's previewedit in 1875 is decent.

Agreement with 1835.

Agreement with 1807.

That's one little chunk.

Ythan · Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:37 pm

Points in 1780 about Ali said to be a problem but often worse from town Ali.

Ythan · Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:47 pm

You seem to have registered that these are other people's opinions I'm sharing but not thoroughly enough to realize it's silly to point out discrepancies between what they say and what I do.

Ythan · Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:48 pm

In post 2010, Alisae wrote: Do you have more for us.

If I do you will see it when it's posted.

Ythan · Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:25 pm

Sorry Ali.

Ythan · Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:57 am

In post 2098, Staeg wrote:
In post 1937, Ythan wrote: Actually going to look at this wagon today/tonight frfr
I still yearn for this

This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!

Ythan · Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:59 am

Not until I convince three or four people to take the other avatars.

Ythan · Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:19 pm

In post 2445, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2442, Cephrir wrote: LLD posting that you have something cool like this is just filling me with more need to know

also it's a giant death flag if you don't get it out just narratively speaking
if scum want to shoot me they're fucking welcome to.

maybe I have a role, maybe I don't, but I'm going to be a paranoia agent this whole fucking game for players and we already have one (1) Ythan who exists only to hide in my shadow so my death and subsequent townflip PROBABLY informs people quite a bit!

I just recommended Paranoia Agent to someone today~

Ythan · Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:21 pm

I'm in a twelve hour shift so I ain't doing shit rn

Ythan · Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:25 pm

I'll be off in time though.

Ythan · Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:15 pm

Yay it's over so long Rad

Ythan · Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:20 pm

What do you want me to crumb Staeg

Ythan · Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:23 pm

If I had reads I hadn't shared yet I would just post them not crumb! Serious answer even if it sounds catty

Ythan · Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:28 pm

What I did not sign up to do is entertain any of you. If you hate the way I play stop complaining and just kill me tomorrow thanks. <3

Ythan · Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:30 pm

Okay for real fuck off with that.

Ythan · Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:37 pm

Think about whether what you're saying is productive and if you think it is whether this game is the place for it. Or see my last post.

Ythan · Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:44 pm

I guess we'll see if you're right in the morning.

Ythan · Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:13 am

In post 2647, Menalque wrote: Hmm, ythan, don’t want to know what you did draft but why didn’t you take vig?

Ew I don't like vig.

Ythan · Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:55 am

Why'd you ask me that?

Ythan · Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:05 am

I dig that layout.

Ythan · Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:10 am

In post 2678, Menalque wrote:
In post 2674, Ythan wrote: Why'd you ask me that?
Koba wanted me to ask because they think you softed vig and they were concerned

I’ll get them to give me the link to what they think was the soft

Ty I'm interested in seeing

Ythan · Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:33 am

Best wishes lld <3

Ythan · Tue May 02, 2023 4:38 pm

In post 2822, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: I. Lived. Bitchesssss!

<3

Ythan · Wed May 03, 2023 5:34 am

In post 2851, Menalque wrote:
In post 2684, Ythan wrote:
In post 2678, Menalque wrote:
In post 2674, Ythan wrote: Why'd you ask me that?
Koba wanted me to ask because they think you softed vig and they were concerned

I’ll get them to give me the link to what they think was the soft
Ty I'm interested in seeing
they think you were softing a threat to shoot Ali at EoD yesterday

Show me more specifically what this is supposed to be a reference to.

Ythan · Wed May 03, 2023 5:53 am

I hope that they will tell you specific numbers because as is that doesn't seem very plausible to me and I know Koba isn't like a fool necessarily.

Ythan · Wed May 03, 2023 6:05 am

Wow it would be so easy to say a post number of that were real since they're talking about posts.

Ythan · Wed May 03, 2023 6:06 am

Even like a range of posts. Like, anything that supposedly inspired this purported take.

Ythan · Wed May 03, 2023 7:02 am

I was excited for this game but then the fight with lld kinda killed it. But I'm over it and gonna do my best to get back into it there's just a lot so please bear with me.

Ythan · Wed May 03, 2023 1:15 pm

In post 2901, Datisi wrote:
In post 2893, Ythan wrote: But I'm over it and gonna do my best to get back into it there's just a lot so please bear with me.
when is this happening and are your teammates following along this game at all

Well I'm closing tonight and working all day tomorrow lol but then I am off for three. Maybe I'll get some in after work tonight.

Wgeurts is gonna read soon, other two are as far as I know following along but no input rn.

Ythan · Wed May 03, 2023 1:23 pm

In post 2915, Alisae wrote: oooooooooo Ythan wants to play mafia! Exciting!

Idk if I'd go that far lol

Ythan · Wed May 03, 2023 2:18 pm

I hate that image but I think that means it's working

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 3:24 am

Happy birthday!

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 4:51 am

In post 2959, Bellaphant wrote: Ythan, who's scum?

Team says you lol

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 6:27 am

Titus said you look partnered with Datisi, didn't like an FoS from you at lld at some point (I'll check after I dump this). Xof disagrees with whoever posted 1725 that said you're town but didn't say why. I'll ask for more because Titus seemed pretty confident.

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 6:47 am

I'm not sure which post that was specifically but something you said on the 18th.

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 6:50 am

In post 2965, Menalque wrote: Titus thinks datisi is scum, why?

Asking for elaboration, it may just be that.

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 6:59 am

She says that read is outdated.

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 7:00 am

(I just searched your name in our server and dumped everything on you regardless of timestamp)

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 7:06 am

Lld, Titus asks which of the following Titi you wish to see: moonlogic, normal, data, or angry

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 7:13 am

Additional option: agreeable

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 7:28 am

Not there yet. I'm working a double rn so I'm not about to get on it either.

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 8:15 am

About what? Be specific or see my last post directly above yours.

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 9:04 am

Yeah shrug

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 2:59 pm

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 3:26 pm

What is it that makes us desire big round page tops

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 5:15 pm

In post 3001, Alisae wrote: Ythan can you put all of your reads into 1 post?

Would you read that post because it feels like you aren't reading any of my other ones.

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 8:39 pm

In post 3007, Bellaphant wrote: It's not even that, it's Titus doesn't!

I think you are intentionally trying to be obnoxious here.

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 8:51 pm

That and trying to downplay suspicion on yourself. Lol?

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 9:32 pm

Willfully obtuse?

Ythan · Thu May 04, 2023 9:36 pm

It's 4am and I'm just now finishing up home life after a thirteen hour shift at work and I can't imagine how I could possibly be less interested than I am right now in diving into deciding whether you're scum or not. As I said I have three days off now so maybe wait until the sun comes up and I'll find the means to give a shit k?

Ythan · Sat May 06, 2023 6:29 pm

Less free time this weekend than I had hoped but I'm building up a charge now to get some in tonight. In the meantime LLD Titus says she's sorry for missing your birthday, and finds out the details of hers on Wednesday.

Ythan · Sat May 06, 2023 6:42 pm

Sorry for being snappy Bella.

Ythan · Sat May 06, 2023 6:44 pm

(And Ali/LLD/whoever I don't mean to exclude y'all)

Ythan · Sun May 07, 2023 3:57 am

Whoa that was only like half an hour ago good morning

Ythan · Sun May 07, 2023 4:41 am

Ythan · Sun May 07, 2023 6:30 am

cymbal crash

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 9:17 am

I think Andante is scum.

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 9:43 am

Titus suggests we do three rounds, first PR or VT then VTs claim category then PRs claim role in reverse draft order.

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 1:09 pm

In post 3288, Bellaphant wrote: It's probably a playstyle thing but I've felt like I say something normal and people act like I've got two heads: ceph disagreed with me from basically my first post, noone would ever pick bullet proof, most posts in convo with datisi, mith waggling his 'ive got my eye on you ' finger at me, ythan literally called me bad for....wanting to talk to them? : i'm not in my groove. It's not an issue but I don't think scum reading me for not aggressively pushing something is valid.

Sorry I'm just grumpy <3

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 2:26 pm

Lld Titus offers a hug and I will throw one in as well. She says she's around if you wanna communicate through me, maybe slow though.

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 2:31 pm

We'll see about that if Andante will get to the damn point please <3

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 2:36 pm

Alisae Titus singled you out to request that you put the claims in a chart lol

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 2:40 pm

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 2:53 pm

Alisae Titus asks if we're easy to read

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 2:57 pm

Alisae we wonder if Andante is so easy to read and obviously town why are you asking if we're gonna wait?

Alisae we have a theory Andante is a scum PR that doesn't know what to guess. I can immediately cc if she guesses wrong.

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 2:58 pm

In post 3399, Ythan wrote: Alisae we wonder if Andante is so easy to read and obviously town why are you asking if we're gonna wait?

Alisae we have a theory Andante is a scum PR that doesn't know what to guess. I can immediately cc if she guesses wrong.

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:02 pm

Do you think the claim stalling is ai?

Bella or Mena who is scum?

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:08 pm

She doesn't know what to guess and will immediately be sentenced to death if she is wrong what's not to get

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:09 pm

Then why is she stalling I asked you about the stalling

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:10 pm

If she's right I don't cc her, obviously? But she has to guess

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:13 pm

She definitely does if she's scum I think it's fairly obvious and I've stated why. It would be one thing if you disagreed and said why but you're kinda just ignoring the facts.

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:14 pm

What about Mena and Bella though?

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:17 pm

I am but a humble servant could you just answer?

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:29 pm

Hi Kuribo

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:30 pm

In post 3415, Alisae wrote: I of those players is mafia

Which one do you think it is?

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:33 pm

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:37 pm

Who can say~

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:37 pm

Scum is trying to guess my role right now we can wait for my turn before I share anymore

Ythan · Tue May 09, 2023 3:42 pm

I can't wait to find out <3