okay i got some from titus about yesterday's VCA
she thinks DEB not voting is indicative of the wagons being TvT, and thinks scum are probably sheeping there
and thinks that Ram following nancy fills that idea
you jumped on the wagon toIn post 4168, Ramcius wrote:Tell her to actually read the game before coming with ridiculous VCA theories, me sheeping Nancy on TGP make me laugh really hardIn post 4166, Mistyx wrote:Spoiler:
okay i got some from titus about yesterday's VCA
she thinks DEB not voting is indicative of the wagons being TvT, and thinks scum are probably sheeping there
and thinks that Ram following nancy fills that idea
?In post 4172, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Titus also has this big issue of always trusting PR claims. It's the biggest flaw of their VCA. When scum makes the most obvious fake claim Titus just assume it's real and comes up with game losing VCA solves that makes fake claiming scum endgame.
expand please
Norwee/Ram/Shea that isIn post 4186, Mistyx wrote:Tangential note
If we hit scum between Norwee/Ram today Pine ALWAYS jailkeeps FL
The mechanical implications of this should be obvious
FL is my lead suspect in those worlds (well I guess not scum norwee but the others)In post 4187, Pine wrote:Uh, no.
That would roleblock a Doc shot.
My jail is best used offensively, to roleblock a suspect.
OkayIn post 4191, Pine wrote:He isn't mine, and you don't get to dictate my role usage.In post 4189, Mistyx wrote:FL is my lead suspect in those worlds (well I guess not scum norwee but the others)In post 4187, Pine wrote:Uh, no.
That would roleblock a Doc shot.
My jail is best used offensively, to roleblock a suspect.
Further, jailing someone and having a kill still go through provides a mechanical clear on that person.
I will not be jailing FL. I haven't decided who I will be, but he's the only one I'm definitely not going to jail.
why give scum a role with such low utility thenIn post 4190, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It doesn’t matter if scum has 1-shot strongman. I care about how the setup only includes roles that are gated by number of shots.In post 4173, Ramcius wrote:Norwee, simple question - why scum have 1-shot strongman, if town has only 1 JOAT with doc and commute?
my ability doesnt get triggered if im nightkilledIn post 4200, Ramcius wrote:what stops you from just killing me on your death?In post 4199, Mistyx wrote:If I can comfortable rule out Norwee/Pine I am willing to compromise on Shea
Provided that if I die, norwee is treated as an innocent child and Ram is treated as mafia
I don't want to have to hard decide that right now so I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me why my worldbuilding is wrong if it is
In post 4206, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Town until both scum not being in Pine/FL is disproven.In post 4194, Mistyx wrote:Norwee I still want your take on Ram
ok then you are blatantly not attempting to reevaluate and are therefore a liabilityIn post 4207, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I can't see a team not being Pine/FL at this point.
i think it's ~reasonable that they could have predicted that DEB was dying today so they had him use it before thatIn post 4226, Akarin wrote:I really have trouble with the idea that scum decide to use their 1-shot strongman on Ico last night, instead of waiting for massclaim.
Molla was dead and flipped already, Icowasn'tone of the two likely PR shots they could have made if we pretend everyone is town for a moment (Ram, FL)
It just seems way too weird.
okayIn post 4250, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Yeah, I definitely agree that Norwee/Pine are never a team here.In post 4198, Mistyx wrote:Norwee/Pine
Norwee/TSQ
Pine/TSQ
Pine/Ram
TSQ/FL
FL/Ram
I have it narrowed down to these
I’m thinking of cutting out Norwee/Pine here
@akarin
@nancy
Can I get your takes on this when you can
it was about the teamsIn post 4261, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Refresh my memory if I haven’t already answered?In post 4241, Mistyx wrote:hi nancy
i assume you're still catching up so you'll see the thing i asked you in a bit
Walk me through this oneIn post 4312, Ramcius wrote:I did some thinking and all I can see is 2 possibilities - Pine/FL and Norwee/TSQ
this is a fair pointIn post 4412, Akarin wrote:So was there ever a convincing reason anyone has for why scum would want to use strongman last night to kill Ico, and not target Ram or FL?
Because to me, if you're worried losing DEB the next day or something and really feel like you want to use that Strongman, why don't you PR hunt?
That's the thing that most doesn't fit to me. And it keeps getting ignored.
that seems like a good argument towards pine being scum???In post 4488, Flavor Leaf wrote:that's just not a town thing to do.In post 4487, NorwegianboyEE wrote:What if we get other people to agree on voting us if Pine is town?
I do not think Pine is scum here. Setup spec all you guys want, but if I were scum here knowing Pine was town, that would mean I'd know his JK is true anyways, and scum cant leave a Town JK that isn't being leashed alive here
i knowIn post 4508, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 4505, Mistyx wrote:i think fl has a good point in that pine is a mechanically incorrect kill today
fl, why do you have norwee/ram ruled out but not status/ram?
I have said recently I've been thinking about status/ram
well by logic wouldn't the roleblocker probably also be gated?In post 4512, NorwegianboyEE wrote:There is probably not a "mechanically correct" play here; we do not know what roles the scumteam has. JJ would give very good odds on the scumteam for this game having a roleblocker of some kind even if we weren’t certain that Pine was thatIn post 4505, Mistyx wrote:i think fl has a good point in that pine is a mechanically incorrect kill today
fl, why do you have norwee/ram ruled out but not status/ram?
there is nothing wrong with this yesIn post 4500, NorwegianboyEE wrote:PINE ISN’T FUCKING TOWN YOU MORON
there was not.In post 4637, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Yes, there was an ungated town role that could make a player bp for the night. I can literally quote it for you.In post 4622, NorwegianboyEE wrote:No there wasn't.In post 4621, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:There was an ungated doc last time.
if ram is scum here and you're town pushing his scum partner is strongly -evIn post 4721, Pine wrote:Mistyx, Jingle is asking for your logic ruling out Ramcius/Shea.
We don’t disagree, but he’s looking for pieces to the puzzle.
it's fine i didn't read it as condescendingIn post 4727, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Please don’t speak to Misty like that, it’s really not helpful. :roll:In post 4719, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’m leaving for the night.
Misty if you need hand holding through qhat core pounts make Pine scum just ask me for it.
...what
we haven't been doing anythingIn post 4777, Ramcius wrote:I come back and you guys trying to flip Pine? Where gone "we still have time?"
Just for the record, conf town doesn't mean they have better reads than you. Also, ofc scum want kill Mystix, they want to keep even numbers, otherwise we can flip Mystix to go back to odd numbers
seeIn post 4782, Pine wrote:Fine, ugh. I’m just so beyond done with this game.
We elim scum!Shea here, I jail Norwegian!scum, game won with an earned guilty.
We elim scum!Shea here, I jail Norwegian!town, we have like, three confirmed Town, we win mathematically.
We elim me, we DON’T have a confirmed scum, we DON’T have confirmed Town (other than Akarin), we’re in endgame with no leads and Town has no clue what to do next.
This is just...its throwing. But fine. Whatever. I needed to pay attention to this game earlier on and not let it get off the rails, that’s my takeaway from this.
i agreeIn post 4844, Ramcius wrote:VOTE: no elim
Let's get back to odd numbers, I doubt we'll achieve anything this day phase anyway
perhapsIn post 4878, Thestatusquo wrote:i think this is roughly 0% to happen.In post 4866, Mistyx wrote:i agreeIn post 4844, Ramcius wrote:VOTE: no elim
Let's get back to odd numbers, I doubt we'll achieve anything this day phase anyway
VOTE: mistyx
I disagree on these two points
because thats in the condition that its a pine/fl teamIn post 4898, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Why didn’t you count Flavour?
bruhIn post 4916, Ramcius wrote:oh, no no no, you ain't getting opportunity to shoot me or PineIn post 4866, Mistyx wrote:i agreeIn post 4844, Ramcius wrote:VOTE: no elim
Let's get back to odd numbers, I doubt we'll achieve anything this day phase anyway
VOTE: mistyx