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This is D4 in summary:
Dong: Lynch Auro he's like scum coz NSG stuff and leading the town Astray
Auro: but what about...?
FF: K
Auro: but what about...?
BB: omg dong is scum, I want to win so bad why can't you guys see it.
Auro: but what about...?
Gobbles: yeah both Dong and Auro must be scum since they're both going to get lynched today. I'm always like this and always mislynched. I probably shouldn't hammer Auro this early right guys?
Auro: but what about...?
FF: K, so I have a shop on Ebay and I'm pretty good at sewing buttons. Btw cheeky is probably town but I'm just scared she'll divorce me again.
Dong: Auro is so scum.
Auro: but what about...?
Cheeky: I'm insane but pretty sure Dann is scum.
Auro: but what about...?
Dann: omg cheeky is so bad.
BB: why is noone lynching Dong omg Dann is so town.
Auro: but what about...?
Cheeky: guys lynch Dann then gobbles.
Auro: but what about...?
Dann: omg cheeky is so bad.
I think this is the full extent of what we've achieved today.-
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Why? He has the most pairings. I just wanted Dann first because you guys lose if he's scum. But since there's an insane amount of resistance to lynching Dann we may as well make the optimal play.In post 4548, Formerfish wrote:Gobs is a bad lynch today, if there is a tomorrow he can totally be on the table.-
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In post 1539, gobbledygook wrote:
My team and I do not agree with thisIn post 1536, Dannflor wrote:
I'm a little embarrassed by my indecisiveness yesterday. However, from a completely non-neutral perspective, I *feel* like it's fairly obvious I didn't know NSG's alignment.In post 1529, Cephrir wrote:I was just looking back now at how some of the end of day stuff went down. My initial response to Dann's trajectory (just the one I happened to look at first) is... town???? Avoiding nsg consistently only to flip there in th 11th hour seems like a strange bus.
Hm.In post 1554, gobbledygook wrote:We think it is scummy that you were on Fish, then you were on the BB flash wagon, and only after that did you vote NSG when it was obvious that NSG was going to flip. That level of movement around NSG is scummy to us. Plus, your earlier stances on NSG seemed like soft pushes in her direction.-
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In post 1589, gobbledygook wrote:
What do you mean by this? Dunn is one of my stronger townreads from how yesterday went.In post 1575, Auro wrote:Dunn NSG trajectory scummy
Dong’s Cephrir vote is something out of left field. Dong weren’t you suspecting three other people not named Cephrir?This actually looks good.
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UNVOTE:
I think how gobbles is playing this game is more relevant than meta. I feel like the only bad things gobbles has done are:
1. Randomly bring up NSG scum meta then vote elsewhere beginning of game.
2. Posture around espeon's wagon.
He's explained BB read multiple times which can be summed up as them both being on the same wavelength.
I really liked his push on Dann D2 and I'm wondering why he wants Dong over Dann at this point.-
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Why does scum!gobbles do this?In post 4567, Auro wrote:the skew in effort put to meta-townread you compared to other reads, etc.-
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In post 3846, Donempire wrote:
Yes, i was sleeping.In post 3827, CheekyTeeky wrote:Dong will you come?
VOTE: dann
Auro isnt voting this. Gobble or bb?Ugh. I was so convinced we'd lynch Dann today.
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I'm taking the people being lynched mainly Hops. Why? Who else should I be sheeping?In post 4595, Formerfish wrote:
Why are you being selective of the trs your trs have that youre willing to sheep?In post 4594, CheekyTeeky wrote:Sigh. I'm legit scared we're game throwing if gobbles flips town.-
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The post you wrote about espeonage being town had inconsistent logic. You provided premises to scumread him yet concluded he was a town read. I talked about how that was a positioning post which gives you the chance to bend your read either way. Like the logic "Espeonage is AtEing as town because he saw other people get townread for it must mean he's town" is like mindboggling.
Gobbles can you talk about how you've been voting Dong all game and haven't really reassessed when people flip? Iirc you are usually all over the place with your reads akin to my playstyle, where you constantly reassess. Why do you think that's different here?-
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Who said this?In post 4607, gobbledygook wrote:I also don’t get the logic that resistance to my wagon means I’m scum-
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Dann has been pushing the obvious scum agenda. I disliked how he behaved when Dunn strong armed the FF wagon onto NSG, disliked him not properly evaluating Espe/Hop and leading the lynches on both of them. Dislike his play today focussing on clearing himself and wanting to lynch whatever is hot and not Auro.In post 4609, gobbledygook wrote:Cheeky, why do you think it’s more likely damn over Dong?
If he is town I thought it better to mislynch him today rather than lylo. Dann also has more likely partners than Dong who can really only be partners with FF at this stage.-
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Gobbles answer this.In post 4612, CheekyTeeky wrote:Gobbles can you talk about how you've been voting Dong all game and haven't really reassessed when people flip? Iirc you are usually all over the place with your reads akin to my playstyle, where you constantly reassess. Why do you think that's different here?-
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In post 1678, Dunnstral wrote:
Weak posting overall, scumreading people I've been townreading, started to go for FF when nsg picked up, took BBmolla to L-1, only hammered nsg when it became clear that that was what was going to happenIn post 1672, Auro wrote:I'm interested in a holistic case on Dong rather than individual posts that come off scummy.-
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In post 1679, Dunnstral wrote:In post 1295, Donempire wrote:Nsg/cheeky/maybe hopIn post 1206, Donempire wrote:I especially didnt like that nsg was MIA and yet former still said she was making it a 1v1, shes not even here
And their post history shows a pattern of shading NSG/voting for somebody elseIn post 1293, Donempire wrote:No one said we cant lynch you today and nsg tomorrowz which is my preferred gamestate as of now.-
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In post 1859, Espeonage wrote:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... Had a look and I think there's two important points to look at from the end of the day.
1. No one had any point had a real opportunity to hammer until Dong did it.
2. The flash wagon on BB got to L-2 and just ran out of steam quite abruptly. There needed to be a Lynch so I don't think any votes after that get any town crew EXCEPT that dong specifically thought NSG was going to flip town and that wording seems to genuine to be played up.
3. Dann was the momentum jump, however BB wasn't going to happen at that point, and FF only had two votes on him left. Also the first time Dann voted NSG in the end of day shenanigans.
3. Ceph put to l-1. Potential cred snap up, so unsure here. I think Dann comes off worse as Ceph was vote parked on NSG while Dann stayed off it and was commenting from the side.
All other votes were earlier composition so I would think they have all been added to the hive mind and don't come in to specific scrutiny here.-
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What are you implying? That I'm scum fishing? Why is it bad to figure out where I feel safest trusting my vote today.In post 4675, Formerfish wrote:
Thats getting dangerously close to fishing of sorts cheeky.In post 4674, CheekyTeeky wrote:I legitimately want to know who you guys vote in lylo if Dong is town and I get NK'd
All you can really get from us is the agreement that we wont rush into anything, which youve gotten from gob, dong, myself and others-
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You're not who I'm pushing as the lynch. But in that scenario I would then lynch in Auro/DannIn post 4681, gobbledygook wrote:Cheeky, when I flip town, who will you go after next?-
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That was the game I repped into. And I'm not sure this is evidence against Dong as Non was saying it in a SvT scenario whereas scum!dong makes it an SvS scenario.In post 4696, gobbledygook wrote:Oh I just remembered when Dong asked people to stop talking because the hammer occurred, that reminded me of Non Imh in a newbie game where she hammered me and I called her out for being scum for it and she said something eerily similar that I should just be quiet because I was lynched.
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In post 2011, Formerfish wrote:
Thats one of the reasons i decided to listen to Eddie and take off my blinders. The progression of you yesterday as scum made no sense, and the more i think about it the more i think I was really just letting my not wanting to lose to you again take over.In post 2006, Dannflor wrote:and re: paranoia on me
I frankly think it's ridiculous to think that I am scum who pregame planned to bus nsg as fucking sloppily as I did and I'm... setting up Cheeky to be the nightkill? for reasons??
wifom is not a good enough explanation for that-
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In post 2192, Formerfish wrote:
I guess im just not ready to admit i was wrong about turkey.In post 2191, Auro wrote:FF, all the reasons for Gobscum are from the last few pages.
-Heavy unnatural AtE
-Made up reads (Esp, Cheeky etc)
-Molla's chainsaw
We can lynch both, but I want the faster win
Im praying that scum is just trying to deflect on to him.
I feel better about an Espy red flip, but if he flips green then Gobs has to be scum.
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