Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

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VOTE: teacher policy.

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actually maybe not townpings on plum

as of this point i tentatively like skitter and mathblade

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i still don't get the plum scum pings.

not sure how i feel abt tris as of yet; i think her not buying into the tonal analysis of plum rings true given tris has a really eccentric tonality as well
kinda weakly don't think scum!tris bothers continually reminding people that she still doesn't understand the reads on plum but this is fairly whatever

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Hot take Plum v Tris is TvS or SvT

felt a s/t tickle in plum/rc more than i felt it in plum/tris - can you talk to me about this take?

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mm early townpings from mathblade are shrinkign

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Where’d the duck go?

working a lot & getting ready to move house atm :/ this is my ~second priority behind like volunteering positions onsite so... you will get as much of me as i can give

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duck

pls

pls

pls don't be a wolf

i have some good news for you :3

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i don't know what the powers game is i'm sorry

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ari can you throw me a super quick tiered readlist when you next check in please

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i like rc. i like tris.
i don't know how i feel about aristophanes yet but i have feelings. having strong early reads then stating only a strong townread on mathblade is like kinda... it's alignment indicative at some level but it makes me really really not want ari to be withholding his reads
skitter thoughts on plum felt fine

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i don't know what the powers game is i'm sorry

Heroes game. Where I deepwolfed with Nancy and Creature after Titus did stuffs.

i largely forgot that game was a thing. what was the takeaway you expected me to have from it?
ngl i skipped like well over 50% of the thread so not much from before the day where you were the boss leader dude thing made much of an impression on me

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but do you like... like me like me? :c

v///v RC...

worstie, thoughts on me?

i haven't decided yet. i feel like i should have an opinion but also looking over mathblade etc.'s takes on you i'm kinda like "sigh.. maybe". i don't think you're being pushed for very sensible reasons but i don't really think you're towny if that makes sense

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i'm persuaded
VOTE: ari

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pretending to have an opinion is for posers
i'm not proud of the read doubling down on a read i don't really care about yet feels cheap

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You literally gave me cred for leading

this is not why i gave you early cred
i'm like, 4x as experienced or something as i was in heroes wanted

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that's more or less my feeling

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i'll let u know when i do

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sorry my posting sucks.
i was excited on opening the thread but i'm tired and it's kinda like spammy and boring

i'll be around the place for a while

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drive safe

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could you throw me like a very iconeum 20 word explanation of the plum vote ico?

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i think tris is town

i think ari/ico is believable maybe

this is a vibe

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could you throw me like a very iconeum 20 word explanation of the plum vote ico?

plum overdefending against her party time opening didn't read great
voting mathblade wasn't amazing, it also came after RC voted Math so it feels like plum didn't feel safe voting for Math by herself?
making 169 and using that as a scumread for Math is yuck
also unvoted after RC makes me feel like Plum is trying to get in the shade, because the sun is burning hot like in aussie right now
209 is just an evacuation of the current gamestate which just says 'ok time to fuck off of my slot here guys', which is fine but I don't think an actual scumread on Math goes away from that post alone

anyone have strong feelings on this
ico it feels like you've compiled a list of things which ~look~ bad about plum but i don't feel really compelled to believe that these make you think she's scum

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i already get the feeling this is not actually going to be a toxic game and that feels good

this game has already deeply offended me.

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i think it's fine.

i feel like it's a lot of fucks for ico to give this early in the game about stuff i like, personally didn't really give a fuck about, but ok

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ducky were you baiting me there?

i'm not that fancy

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ducky what made you change your opinion on him?

page 4 mathblade feels kinda... silly
his reactive 3p scumteam solves just feel kinda silly
idk he feels like he's trying to be seen as towny and solvey but i'm finding his opinions increasingly difficult to parse

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ngl i think i'm biasing slightly because i have no idea why i'm suddenly in his scumteam solves outside of my posting being lacklustre

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this is a more intense slow game than your scum slow game i... think?
i'm not into this game yet at all, but i am happy you're enjoying it.

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i'm really confused because my slow i meant completely devoid of intensity? I feel like there's been virtually no, like, force behind anything that I've done and that's what I meant by slow moreso

have you like, read your low intensity scum games lol

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should we scumread you for thaT?

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i getcha

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you think i would betray you by rolling scum? smh.

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ahh mm and the other time with enter

yeah ok maybe i would betray you, but not this time

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sigh

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ank is stronger than i am.
she has math, rc, ico and tris as town
skitter as town but fragile.

and is scumreading rce, plum

i am withholding her read on aristophanes, and omitting nullreads

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she is also leaning town on me but apparently that read is fragile as well.

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ank is stronger than i am.
she has math, rc, ico and tris as town
skitter as town but fragile.

and is scumreading rce, plum

i am withholding her read on aristophanes, and omitting nullreads

Please can we not do this? It's cool if your partners are influencing your reads but x is reading x slot town/scum influences ALL of the games.

i literally do not know how to respond to this i'm sorry

i don't feel remotely bad or unjustified in shading my partner's thoughts, and i will not be discussing any other ongoing games in this thread

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I have another scumread shared with a teammate in teacher, which I'm holding for the moment in case the lack of desktop access was changing stuff there.

i'd just be generally interested to see why you have teacher south of null rn

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i don't think that should meaningfully impact your ability to read me tbqh
i happen to revere ank's reads and wanted to share them

that's about it

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that's the read that piqued my curiosity the most too - she's finding him a bit too compromisey, doesn't feel like his posting trajectory reads true and like he's been responding to kinda.. odd things.

i don't disagree with her, but i'm not confident i can read him yet.

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tris's response to mathblade pushing for reads felt pretty townie too actually

generally agree

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i get you - i think there are rare situations where being like "x is townreading me? ugh that's pockety" is intuitive but those situations are rare, where scum making the decision to suggest someone is pocketing to both try and look townier + deflate the other person's position is just a more realistic mindset

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do tell

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Where’d the duck go?

working a lot & getting ready to move house atm :/ this is my ~second priority behind like volunteering positions onsite so... you will get as much of me as i can give

Pls tell me this is not fire related. Ive been thinking of you actually. Congrats on the GTKAS, you might even get me to do it.

Luckily not - the fires are mostly interstate, but even so not close to where I am. All the same, feel horrible for those affected.

Itd be great to see you around the GTKAS!

(also second wish to impose geriatric rules tbh)

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Tw what's your read on ico?

Ico's probably town

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Ok

VOTE: skitter this is so upsetting

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Mathblade's page one is super weird, really aggressive for no reason. Stands out the worst 13

Given it was a pretty odd opinion and Mathblade is smart I figured he was taking a stance on something in order to kick the game off. This is what promoted my initial weak townpings actually - it felt like he seemed unafraid to look like kinda sloppy and not-towny in exchange for generating content.

I think I like this from you but I'm not fully sure why yet. Let me wake up.

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Still don't feel teacher has done much AI and ngl I don't see why he unvoted skitter

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it was not a meme vote

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How did I act last time I was town lol

I don't think I'm being remotely out of character in this game other than being pretty worn out the last couple of days; regardless thqh I won't be casing skitter until I want to case skitter.

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If you're seriously going to commit to meta reading me can you just throw out which town game you're referring to rq?

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the deepest darkest part of my soul wants to say "you're trying to meta read me so yes the t/t meta you're referring to is relevant", current energy levels want to say "ok". if you don't feel like following through on this read yet I'm not gonna say the same thing back and forth with you.

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Dialogue about why you feel you should be scumread for quietness was almost entirely for the benefit of having the dialogue in the thread - I kinda figured you'd assume that

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sounds good

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With respect I sincerely don't think that's correct. Are you looking at newbies where I'm making an effort to be as professional as I can? Are you looking at notably later in the game when I'm actually engaged?

you're still alking in sweeping statements about my meta. I'd suggest either drop it until I'm a bit more switched on, or if you feel like you're onto something get a bit more specific/detailed bc like tbh
- I already pity people who have to read this exchange
- you're making me look worse; you're not contributing anything that will help correctly sort me

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Not sure, it just didn't strike me as a read I was super interested in questioning

cancel food at large haven't spoken about you a whole lot yet; fwiw I think this conversation also lends to you being town unless you're literally scum with skitter

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no worries.

on the skitter vote btw I am upset because she's scum, not upset because of anything funny - is there a reason you assumed it was a joke or just like, tone?

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tl;dr paraphrasing: ank says her read on you feels more lucid when she doesn't have firsthand interactions

I don't think I'm capturing get perfectly. Ank thinks more nuancedly than I do.
I'm also starting to fade out. I'll revisit this when I'm not wiped+nearly asleep.

I don't really remember what I was thinking, but I will instead say if I was scum there's no real reason for my interpretation of that post as a joke or not to differ from me as town.

I don't think I disagree with this, was more curious about the way you're parsing my posts.

pedit2: that's valid

pedit3: Australian Internet is truly unkind and I am mobileposting. Please go easy on me.

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none of skitter + plum + iconeum can reliably play on weekends as a general rule, i believe

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*cough*
hey ducky
hows the scumhunting going?

pretty slow so far - how bout you?

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Who all is V/LA? It only shows Ari and I want to ask him about a couple things but stalling the game out until the 10th is shitty.

VOTE: Xtoxm

i checked this thread first i just didn't find this post very inspiring to respond to

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siiiggggghhh 360 noscope angleshoot strikes gold againnnn

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Cancel Food likes Math.

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siiiggggghhh 360 noscope angleshoot strikes gold againnnn

I wasn't using any of that to angleshoot.

i'm aware you weren't, and i don't think xtoxm was angling at anything either
i was being silly!!

and i kinda hate the lamist-y stuff he says
and the aggressiveness
and his demands are kinda unreasonable for the stage of the game that he's asking them for (i.e. with asking tris for who his scumbuddies would be)

what are you finding scummy abt this tho

Yeah, problem is. If RC is scum he's scum with Math.

i kinda think s/s is a worst case scenario with this - i couldn't tell you why i don't think it's s/s in so many words? but i kinda just don't ~feel~ like scumbuddies decided to have such a boring conversation for such a long time?
mathblade's de-escalation wasn't like.. "oh i've gotta end this dialogue". it felt more like the dialogue was stupid and he was cognisant that the dialogue was stupid so he exited it. i think mathblade being kinda alienating in the conversation is probably weak +town points.

like i think you're more conflict-forcing as scum than as town ...

historically this is very far from my expectation. town!rc thrives off forcing friction and reading the fallout; scum!rc tends to be towny enough to coast until he's called out and THEN forces conflict
wouldn't say he does bare minimum as scum but he feels more like he needs reads here imo



... got to skitter vs. rc and i kinda give up
goodnight

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I have asked Ico twice to discuss his reasons for unvoting and specifically mentioned in my most recent post that him ignoring my first request is bad and feels like he's hoping the issue will just disappear if he ignores it

Just spotted this post-argument; this is unfortunately rarely AI for Ico. If I catch him in realtime I'll try and drag something out of him.

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Mathblade's scum meta is LAMISTness

I very sincerely do not think that LAMISTy posting is outside of Math's townrange. Dude hasn't been onsite for a year. I can't really remember what he's like as a player. To be candid I'm not taking your cold meta into account when cold reading him.

I can write up what I like about Math later - sorry. Mobileposting is a lot of effort.

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does Ank want her townread on Mathblade to supercede my scumread in actuality?

You need to settle the fuck down RC.

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I make several choices every time I post. It's how social deception games roll.

You don't need someone's reads to supersede the other's in actuality (??); the moment you ask that it draws away from any integrity in the read and turns it into an ego contest for no reason.

I can't think of a non stupid way to respond to that because like tbh it's a stupid question. I'll try and work through it with Ank when I'm at a PC & not at work if you'd like. But I'm gonna need a prompt which is read driven not personality driven.

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ok you asked "does Ank want her townread on Mathblade to supercede my scumread in actuality?" when you meant "how confident does Ank feel about town!Math?"

i can definitely ask that; i don't think her reads are really all that refined past first impressions.

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I like a lot more of skitter’s posts up to this point and am putting them in town lean now.

could you throw me some commentary about her recent posting which you like please?
preferably while you're in the moment; i'm really interested to see how your mind is working because i think i'm reading her roughly backwards from you.

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ok you asked "does Ank want her townread on Mathblade to supercede my scumread in actuality?" when you meant "how confident does Ank feel about town!Math?"

i can definitely ask that; i don't think her reads are really all that refined past first impressions.

this is the same question... if i wanted to just say no i am better than ank sheep me fuckheads i would have done that and linked our overlapping games rather than asked you to ask her a question

but okay i was like really blown away by your reaction to my question.

okay it seems i misunderstood your question - i literally thought you were asking ank whether she thought her reads were better than yours and i was like "... nooo rc whyyy"

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Duck, you think that scum!Skitter has the meltdown that she had in reaction to my push on her? I would like to believe that she simply would never do that as scum.

i used to subscribe to reads like this sigh

i read that exchange when i was falling asleep last night and couldn't.... really get all that invested in it....? so maybe i need to have another shot at empathising more heavily with both of you. it kinda just felt like kinda one of those things that was quite sincere regardless of her alignment at first impression though

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teacher does smell towny but [generic tw brand reminder that he does have a scumrange]

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that's an interesting takeaway - i think more nuanced than sleepyduck's empathy can really process.
i'll give it a reread when i'm not meant to be working.

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VOTE: Ari I'm down to spook ari when he comes back

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Hiconeum

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what do you make of mathblade aorn tris?

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VOTE: flopz xtoxm there's like a near 0% chance we have a vig

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RCE, you town?

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think xtoxm made the vig joke earlier

xtoxm does tend to play harder like.. not on d1 in a general sense fwiw

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i'm at work but can engage a little - sup

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thanks
first thing i want to do when time is check skitter's more heated moments and see whether they feel more AI than they did initially

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i kinda went town then null then town then scum and as of right now i just assertively don't have a read on you

you were pretty solid right at the start of the day and then it felt like your observations got like... markedly less fluid / more superficial. from a quick glance at you it felt like you were kinda letting yourself float into the background. v briefly discussed it with ank and she was finding you kinda pingy as well but it was a pretty quick earlygame read

i'm surprisingly demotivated to dive this game atm and don't really like having a shitty superficial read on you but that's abt all i got sry


pedit:

i'm p sure i'm out of my scumrange wrt ~heatedness~

it's probs already obvious but quickly glancing at like your posting the last couple of pages, i'm expecting to come out townreading you.

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this feels really weird to say because normally i'm like addicted to overanalysing random shit but i think i'm gonna struggle in this game until a couple of heads roll / maybe there's a little bit less rc / more everyone else?

no disrespect intended @rc i'm just... kinda already just gonna be treating you as town this phase and every time i open the thread there you are. and for some reason i don't find your interactions with a lot of slots easy to parse wrt sorting the other person's alignment

if i hadn't seen scum!you a few times over the last year i'd probably be more suspicious that you're trying to tank conversations but it actually feels earnest/unintentional

not sure if i'm the only one feeling this way

ari should probably say something a bit more relevant next time he checks in

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i don't super love that you kept on taking swipes at me and then kinda ignored me for a few days when i tried to get you to talk about it

i haven't been like...

trying

to ignore you i just didn't really have much of interest to say until you either alignment told harder, Or Just Didn't

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this feels really weird to say because normally i'm like addicted to overanalysing random shit but i think i'm gonna struggle in this game until a couple of heads roll / maybe there's a little bit less rc / more everyone else?

no disrespect intended @rc i'm just... kinda already just gonna be treating you as town this phase and every time i open the thread there you are. and for some reason i don't find your interactions with a lot of slots easy to parse wrt sorting the other person's alignment

if i hadn't seen scum!you a few times over the last year i'd probably be more suspicious that you're trying to tank conversations but it actually feels earnest/unintentional

this literally sounds like something that ank would say.

ok

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i was half tempted to type out a "haven't spoken to ank about this game for a while, we are just sometimes each other's brains" but i didn't think you'd really care

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ignoring his thing with me ... i said this already but i think he'd be trying harder to force 1v1s to make the thread difficult for town to navigate if he were scum here

part of why there is a bit of paranoia tickling the back of my mind is that, well, from my pov he did kinda try to do just that via steamrolling me to a pl

exact mood yeah
i'm kinda waiting for a couple of days to chat with the team about it because eddie is pretty interested in having a better read of RC

and yeah not engaging wasn't really intentional i was just kinda.. waiting.. but didn't really feel motivated to prompt the "you aren't alignment telling my friend" convo myself because i couldn't really come up with a way that you'd struggle to navigate as scum in the moment and then i just sorta got bored

sorry other than my read on you was there much you were curious about? i'll ask ank if she'd be ok giving an updated read on you

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i was on the fence about even posting on mafiascum for 2 years!!

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wait hoily fk you've been around since 2015?!?!?

i made an account back then, there was a lag w accounts being confirmed at the time, so never got confirmed. i was originally gonna play w some friends from offsite but only one really came across (i think you're friendly w/ him i think) and i kinda just... never got around to it

then 2 years later i /in'd to a newbie and met mathdino and the rest is history~~

but i digress

i hope everything is ok with you tw :/

thanks; i'm doing good. emotionally i'm doing well but i have a tonne on my plate at the moment. just a little exhausted.

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idk can you just like update me where you're at in general ...

i kinda feel like you're popping in and talking about ~tangential topical~ things and i don't have a good sense for what you're thinking rn

in a word.. BEHIND

still think math is approaching this game like town; haven't really seen anything that irks me on this. potentially within scumrange still? but that's not really something i'm interested in reevaluating

rc is town until further notice because like at face value i pick more town motivation than scum motivation and i'm not really interested in mindscrewing myself on this

i think i will like you; i think i like plum; i think i like teacher?

the voices in my head can't decide how they read bella : ] but i am always heavily conflicted about how to read bella (including this one time in an LSG when she didn't have an alignment and was just being completely sincere and i was still anxious)!

tris did things that looked surface townie real early on but i kinda haven't checked this read at all

have ico/ari done ai stuff?

flopz is underwhelming

idkkkkk i feel like a bulk of the super active players are people i feel like i should be townreading; this list is kinda hard to sort and i guess i'm not really helping. this feels like an early 2018 site meta vibe game


pedit: @rc that's like more or less what i'm doing haha

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goodnight skitter

want me for anything else RC?

aorn eddie is still on holidays so not gonna be pressing him for info til he's home properly; asked ank to comment on updated-skitter; i'll do rereads when i'm a bit more free.

otherwise i'm kinda waiting for ari/ico/flopz/BLOOD

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i played d&d on sunday on top of other stuff so kinda ran out of time as well - we'll find a time soon, i'm holding off for you

why are you townreading me?

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i think scum!me who's called out on lazily not correcting a bad read on skitter is probably pretty capable of lurking out the pressure then pivoting into a townread tbh

re. handling of your slot i guess that makes sense? it's also the objective path of least resistance if i'm scum and don't feel the need to act disruptively

idk mannnn i'm not sure i really vibe your read on me and i kinda feel like it flits back and forth without me like. doing anything. i'm wary my d1 contributions automatically bump up my lategame scum equity so like. this line is full trashcan but i think my pocket equity is pretty high rn

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thanks. i'm pretty satisfied based off that.

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btw @ everyone else you can't use my own arguments against myself to lynch me this was a PRIVATE CONVERSATION

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ank isn't fully across this game but based on iso particularly last ~doupla dozen posts has skitter as town

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doupla? coupla*

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hope d&d was good
ank is the spiciest
it sounds like she's been kinda conflicted on skitter but generally has townleaned her more often than scumleaned

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haven't catcher up yet but is nsg scumreading me again

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I tried to catch up
Rc still floodin
Ico "wOuLd ScUm!IcO dO tHiIiIiS" (kinda think he's slightly above null tbh but it's kinda funny)
I gave up

On review I like Bella less

Cashing in that d1 skip but I don't think I can actually bring myself to prodge so I'm just not gonna push myself any harder than I want to

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sowwy

maybe check her confidence, nsg hasn't townread me in like... it might be pushing on a year. I'll check if I'm bored.

I'd be p interested in town!Bella reasons I wanna consult the team about her but Ank doesn't like her

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I have a kinda tinfoil nsg alt theory which I doubt is correct and assuming it isn't I don't think she's townread me since coalition in November 2018 so if you're going to use her read on me I'd kinda like you to check it because I think you're currently markedly more capable of reading me than nsg (intending no offense - I think her towngame and general reads are really formidable. if anything that just makes me more sad that she's not able to townread me anymore).

I'll leave it here though. You're dead correct that I don't have a spicy townread because I feel like a lot of the active players are probably town - I have teammates who want to talk reads with me and frankly I'm more interested in their opinions than in engaging with the mind numbing combo of {repetitive PoE, truly truly stupid fights} itt atm

Sorry I didn't follow consensus on skitter and want to take my time townreading someone whose scumgame 1) I strongly respect and 2) I repeatedly argue is on a strong growth trajectory

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think I'm more nostalgic/grieving the loss of my once-mason buddy ruby red than upset about being scumread. I haven't been one of those people who calls people misreading me incompetent for a fair while, it feels like a trashy way to play the game tbh. I suppose maybe I find it exasperating explaining myself so transparently only to find people's reads return to consensus dislike the moment I'm gone. I suppose when I'm checked out/not motivated to lead the game my lynch equity seems to spike heavily? Is that a me thing or is it the way people interact with me? Such an interesting thought experiment.

This post is useless but likely still more relevant than you putting any stock in #1111.

:shrug:

I'll try and sleep now I guess.

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hey take it easy day one but jsyk I'm gonna use nsg as a reason to try and lynch you later despite her inability to read you and her stance on you having the nuance of a picture book

ok

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I meant a children's book picture books can be great
I think my rhetoric was p obvious anyway

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ok

do you think i'm scum

do you think i'm going to be alive until 'later'

not really

probably just depends how high scum are in your readlist tbh

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oh for sure, Ank is busy/not very checked into this game so I'm not really putting much stock into her Math read.

sorry if you're taking offense to my comments. being candid. I generally like playing with you. I'm not enjoying you this game at all. I think nsg's read on me comes from the same place as the rest of her recent reads on me and like. idk her accuracy but it's identical to the % of the time I've been scum in games with her.

I'm using rhetoric where I think you need a crass reminder that the way you're handling your read on me is shitty. Out side of that? I'm being more honest than usual but i am not trying to be rude.

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sowwy

maybe check her confidence, nsg hasn't townread me in like... it might be pushing on a year. I'll check if I'm bored.

I'd be p interested in town!Bella reasons I wanna consult the team about her but Ank doesn't like her

nsg: please dont overly weight my reads
me: everything in this list is 100% true and accurate

basically, you don't have any clear scumreads that you have original thoughts on outside of consensus, you're not really trying to get people lynched, and she viscerally, strongly, overwhelmingly hates your failure to townread skitter when you should have.

your response here feels like, disrespectful to everything I've posted today tbh

I've tried to steam of consciousness where I'm at as much as possible despite not being particularly invested. your read on me
1) reverts to before today, which is a regression of your read on me earlier today
2) is less nuances than your earlier read on me
3) drops your own read for that of someone who's accuracy on me has hardcore tanked just because she holistically has a very good towngame

I'm exhausted and some parts of this game are really frustrating. posting in this game is exhausting. make me feel like my posting is a waste of time and I'm probably going to lash out.

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worst, I don't really understand your reasons for being a bit salty about that 'nsg scumread' on you. RC slot puts you just below null, which I think town!you would be expecting to be put. It's also the important thing here, not what RC team thinks of you behind the scenes.

Do you think you should be townread right now?

I don't care where I am on RC's readlist. I care that he feels as though my posts are worth reading, and that it's his read on me.

Town!me doesn't have an expectation for where he's put on a readlist. He just doesn't take crap from people using 2d reasoning when they're more than capable of better.

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I feel a lot of nuance was abandoned between

like i said earlier, because you have taken stances that you would know i wouldn't like while also having me as a clear slot
so you're both instigating me and you're not allowing yourself to mislynch me for going after you which seems like the correct move in team mafia from your pov
i also think scum you wouldn't actually try to keep skitter30 open as a mislynch? like that seems... not likely

I'm aware my townread on you ~isn't good enough~. I don't care, to be blunt. I'm not afraid of you not getting scumread after I get nightkilled.
If Skitter30 wasn't already like dicey about you along with the rest of the game I would care more about handling you but people SRing you makes me even more comfortable not caring.
I'm not playing this to win in a strict sense or to be perfect, I just want to do a good enough job of finding scum that I don't feel bad about it after and then leave the site.

and

basically, you don't have any clear scumreads that you have original thoughts on outside of consensus, you're not really trying to get people lynched, and she viscerally, strongly, overwhelmingly hates your failure to townread skitter when you should have.

I'm exasperated because him sheeping nsg is a dead end and his reads earlier were so much more interesting.

look I don't feel all that mean right now? i actually feel fairly reverent given that I feel entitled to call people out on sheeping objectively less nuanced reads than their own?

I'll go reread my last few posts or smth

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to me that nsg read like just contradicts your reasons for weakly townreading me please tell me if I'm going mad

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I'm being a lot more candid than usual because I'm exhausted and a bit annoyed. I don't think I'm being unpleasant outside of fairly limited rhetoric. Actually given this is largely a conversation about holistic meta/skillsets I'm surprised I've been this focused? I feel valid rn

pedit: I mean between the two I have objectively gone from being a weak townread to just south of null. the stuff he's shared from nsg feels like stuff he's vicariously acknowledged through his earlier post. it does feel like his read on me has regressed ya

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Tbf i do think you should have been townreading me earlier than you did

objectively this wouldn't surprise me; I think going back ~a year I locktown you over your conversation with RC happening at all (if not earlier) but like I've mistakenly townread you a couple of times recently so I'm kinda being careful there as a matter of pride

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I feel #1151 on a spiritual level tbh

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maybe i'm overreacting but like taking potshots at nsg is my enrage button.

Last I'll say on the subject but I don't intend to be ireverent or take pot shots at anyone. I asked you to check her confidence and you made a throwaway comment/joke about taking her reads as gospel. Sorry if I got a bit carried away in asking you to be careful with this, but I really sincerely think it's healthy for me to talk through this criticism. Too much reverence is a bad thing. Nobody is perfect. Nsg is really incredible but she has strengths and weaknesses.

pedit: great minds. I want you to take this on board A's personally-invested-but-honest criticism, if you can.

pedit2: ew yeah don't be reverent towards me I am a waterbird

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I'm probably treating teacher as town until further notice
nth extremely interested in a Bella towncase

VOTE: xtoxm

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Less teacher shading more Bella town casing pls

pedit: ah
VOTE: Bella

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wake up : (

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he asked for a Bella towncase

worked through skitter paranoia in the face of consensus despite the fact she's not happening

and suggested xtoxm over flopz

I don't really agree with that take

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I think I'd actually rather park Bella for tonight than switch to flopz off an angleshoot but I'm extremely fine with flopz as leading wagon

pedit: summoned!

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Flopz I'm pretty exasperated too but positive change starts with us, not by raging at the institution. You mentioned being uncomfortable with RC and teacher painting you as scum. How are you reading those players' alignments?

Given we're here to lynch scum not to lynch people based on the quality of their arguments

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Do you think flopz is trying to become TM2020's most famous meme? I don't think he can do it unless he halts his catchup immediately to play soccer

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it's that smile isn't it?

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I'm going to just.... not have a read on flopz either
maybe by the time I'm back he'll have played mafia
who knows

have a nice day friends

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Do you think flopz is trying to become TM2020's most famous meme? I don't think he can do it unless he halts his catchup immediately to play soccer

Am I supposed to know what that is?

nah I'm just kinda desperate for you to start playing
maybe go for a walk or smth if you're this frustrated at the institution of TM

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you're a clever seal, you'll come to understand me

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He is a tasty leaf.

I'm glad we can have a conversation about RC scum equity without feeling the need to wagon him unnecessarily or ignoring his reads & contributions.

RC if you go dictator mode in response to being scumread I'll be advocating to policy lynch you.

I'm not one for policy lynches and I don't think policy lynching you as a rule is even close to smart. But you're kinda already spamming so like.... as much as I don't like doing things I find generally stupid, I'm feeling a little inflexible this gsme.

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please say hi to your team from me teacher. I really like that team.

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is there an auto-vc skimmer or bot that scrapes threads here?

one made by the lovely Mathblade actually! But it needs control data in post#0 which we don't have here.

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I'm not sure what you want me to say to that. I'm sick of feeling like I have to jump through conflicting hoops to make everyone in this game happy.

just an fyi

I don't think you enjoy being dictator seal either tbh you always sound sad when you have to boss people around

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ugh

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Bread

c

rumb? I'd

o

pt instead to dro

p

a whole slice

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Where's Xtoxm
I wanna hang out with Xtoxm

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Eddie is reading up and has Bella as either town or scum with RC

Mostly bc of her trajectory - pushing flopz who is voting with RC opens up a chainsaw defense of RC by killing flopz if Ari is a mislynch. Plus it unaligns their pushes

I think I'm voting Bella more bc I dislike RC's trajectory on her than because I actually think she's scum tbh
UNVOTE:

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Spoiler: shrill egotist

Vote Count 1.10

tris

(3): Aristophanes, skitter30, Plum

Flopz

(2): RCEnigma,

Bellaphant

Xtoxm

(2): Iconeum, teacher

Bellaphant

(2): the worst, MathBlade

Aristophanes

(2): Flopz,

RadiantCowbells

MathBlade

(1): tris

RadiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

Not voting (0):

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to end the day.
Deadline is set to two weeks from day start, in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

tris has been prodded.

RC sweaty you gotta read what I actually say
her voting the person who's voting with you gives trajectory onto the person voting with you after a hypothetical Ari mislynch

not sure abt Ari aorn just talkin abt Bella

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You just can't make enemies with the entire town.

watch me, seal.

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you know what fuck it
I physically can't post itt without engaging your weird shady gameboytting shit

VOTE: RC

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Eddie has
skitter
bella
ico

math

town in that order

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you want to present a POE because you want a lynch
half of your reads are unabashed bullshit and your scumteam is my null list

you're peddling lynches not looking for scum

every time I post itt it feels like you're camping here ready to try and shit on my integrity

You tried to alienate Ank with your really unsubtle attack on her then tried to backpedal into saying you were asking for her read confidence

Eddie gave like his first read after catching up and you're misrepresenting it in a way which is so fucking obtuse it's transparently below your townrange

Look you're probably scum, if you aren't I'm fine calling this 1/4 policy because every time I post you make me want to throw up

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I tried to skip d1. I can't conscionably lurk through d1 completely. I compulsively post my thoughts and my teammates thoughts. Every time I try to engage with the thread you attempt to alienate me.

This isn't a behaviour that wants to read my alignment; it's a behaviour that wants me out of the game.

I don't even remember the scum game you're referring to in #1447 but the fact that post reads like it was literally prewritten just makes me feel more confident that you're handling me with an agenda :/

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Don't respect who?

You are not outside your scumrange. I didn't pretend you were.
I don't hate you. You're discrediting the shit out of me and I hate playing this game with you.

Again this..... feels prewritten...?

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Duck: let's policy Lynch RC who also has access to NSGs reads and also NSG reads have the dimension of a paperback

Also duck: RC is trying to alienate me.from the thread!!!!!

yes.

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you're like 10 levels deep into trying to bury me with rhetoric.... like no person can retain this much information and just recall it all on the fly while simultaneously painting this spectacular narrative.... like this is either exactly pre written or you were anticipating if you kept shitting on me eventually I'd wipe it off and glare at you...? idc which but it feels transparent

still waiting on the scumgame you were talking abt bc I literally can't remember it -- was it BoP? Ank became kinda obvtown and cashing in on the {urap, rc} friction was our only path to victory. I'm not capitalising on any friction here. I'm creating the friction.... This push is very far outside of my scum m.o. (to paraphrase you, do the bare minimum possible)....how the fuck can you earnestly look at this and reach the conclusion I'm trying to do the same thing?

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No this doesn't feel prewritten at all and how TF am I supposed to randomly know we're having this fight today? If you're implying wow he's too towny to be writing in real time as scum so it must be prewritten then yes, ding ding ding! I'm town. You're not. No breadcrumbs for naughty ducks.

This post is straight out of volpe's scum handbook from that 9p vig game lmao

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I'm aware that a lot of people in this game don't respect you.

Duckling does.

Duckling as town who has already pointed out that I am outside of my scum range doesn't go after me and try to policy lynch me.

Duckling as town doesn't try to policy lynch me when he can just... let me lynch scum like I do over 2/3 of day phases I'm alive in and he is aware of.

He's playing to the ra ra I hate RC because it's a common sentiment across TM but it doesn't apply to him and he's scum.

Don't respect me.
Like I see how you're playing off trying to generate empathy for the 'omg I hate RC so much I am just gonna policy lynch him' but that's not you.
You're just trying to portray ~relatable~ emotions to the other people in the game who don't altogether like me to try to get me lynched without having to actually push me as scum, which is borderline impossible.

no like
I'm quite a lot more experienced than I was before
you're making this game nigh unplayable for me
this list is like very good. specifically, you are doing my head in.
I think it's belittling/discrediting behaviour and I don't like it for town!RC. you can be antagonistic but I've never found you shit to play with before.
we've spoken about this before, and I'm not going to let my alignment decide to treat you like you deserve to be plynched. I'm going to let your behaviour decide if you should be plynched.

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The worst who would be scum with RC if RC was scum?

I don't knowwwwww
Reading RC for associatives is always a fucking nightmare in every game he's scum in

my suggestion would be powerlynch then if he's scum reset and work with townreads (excl. bella aorn because I'd lose the fragile comfort I have with her)

if he flips town just systematically assassinate his master perfect unstoppable POE of null lurkslots and as he's saying now I'm sure that'll go fine

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I am only making this game unplayable for you because you're scum and I'm not giving you any reasonable paths to victory.
No, we haven't spoken about policy lynching me because YOU WOULD NEVER ACTUALLY TRY TO POLICY LYNCH ME BECAUSE WE ARE FRIENDS. What?

We totally have actually just quite a while ago
No I won't policy lynch you because RC.
This push is because I think you're scum.
It's aided by policy because you're making this game horrible for me.

I just back myself more now than I did when we had this conversation. Sorry if you're uncomfortable with that but if you are perhaps exercise more empathy wrt my attempts to engage with the thread and your puttdowns of them. :/

You're not giving hypothetical scum!me any paths to victory? Dude you're not letting me fucking post thoughts without steering the conversation. You're not letting me post readable content. The fuck's that got to do with not giving hypothetical scum!me a path to victory?

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I can't conscionably lurk through d1 completely.

also what is this lol. leaving the game in the hands of NSG and RC sure is an unconscionable decision when you had claimed several times to townread me.

please respond to this including context because this is absurd. I can't fully lurk full stop. I compulsively post my thoughts.

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You're acting like I'm doing something I'm not. You're perfectly free to do anything you want. I didn't enforce you lurking. I didn't enforce you voting anyone. I simply voted my scumreads, and called you scum.

I wasn't even voting you today.

Maybe have a flick back thru like every time I've entered the thread over the last coupla days........

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Like you only really got salty about me at 3 points in this game

When I said that NSG scumread you
When I said that I was going to be more proactive about leading lynches (while you were trying to lynch Bella who I was hard defending)
And now, when I said that you were scum with Ari

I'm even voting an overlapping scumread and you've just thrown out your entire trajectory to push a lynch on you.

You're literally making up an alternative version of events.

this post is pot/kettle you're literally misrepresenting the way I handled those points in the thread to over simplify them and make me look worse than I am.

This is exactly the same thing you did by abandoning your own read to sheep nsg's surface level scumread

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Wagoning him, much as I want it, is anti town. Do your best to find partners if you’re town.

any tips on accurately reaing associatives with scum!RC?
look I'll look for scum independently but I don't think I'm gonna get a 3p team solve in this gamestate, there's too many underwhelming slots

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Like if anything that read is the opposite of the truth.
I am being far less domineering than is my norm as town and if there's a reason I'm scum it's because I wasn't hard preventing mislynches.
You don't scumread? me in this game for being TOO DOMINEERING when I've literally been super gentle about people.

this post is pot/kettle you're literally misrepresenting the way I handled those points in the thread to over simplify them and make me look worse than I am.

This is exactly the same thing you did by abandoning your own read to sheep nsg's surface level scumread

wait wait you mean the same read that I said was lazy and that I wasn't thinking too too much about because I figured it was someone elses problem because you were low posting?
Then when NORTHSIDEGAL, literally the best town player currently active,

and you fucking know this

, calls you a strong scumread I listen to her?

this isn't a complicated situation duck, you're just playing it up as one to discredit me.

and i point out she hasn't townread me in a year (i.e. she is currently explicitly bad at reading me) and you never reevaluate?
lol

btw at work, will get slower

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btw got a message for nsg from eddie - i've paraphrased but kept it as authentic as possible

Spoiler: nsg's eyes only stay out

Hi NSG I have some questions for you

1) could you summarise your reads and how much of the game you've read to get to this point? RC only mentioned you in iso a few times, and it's been kinda all over the place
2) you said you scumread math at one point. i actually had a TR on him at that point. can you explain it please? do you still hold it?
3) do you agree with a town bloc starting with bella, ico, skitter?
4) if your slot is town, could you please ask RC to stop being so toxic to interact with? it isn't making my team want to engage this game, and i don't think he's necessarily doing it intentionally. in general, this game is painful to read, and its not all rc but he is contributing.
thank you friend ♥

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Huh funny claim because

please throw it at me!! if i'm wrong this will mend my aching heart
i really miss being mason buddies w nsg

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She correctly read you in 2049
She correctly read you in Coalition
She correctly read you in Undertale
She correctly read you in Pop goes the nightkill
She

incorrectly

read you in C9++

And she says these are your last 5 games.

i'll check later - i have a pretty vivid memory of her incorrectly reading me more
coalition a year ago

undertale i was indeed scum

pop goes the nightkill..... i didn't want to talk about and hope she respects that

c9++ is the only one of those within the last 6 months

i'll check and see if i'm missing any games w/o outing hidden alts but even off that list it's been a long time since she's correctly read town!me; i really don't accept that she doesn't feel that she might be rusty and i don't accept that you think she's more able than you are to get this right =_=

anyway i digress

eddie says he's aware nsg is busy regardless of alignment
notes there are 8 days left
no rush

@plum

he's also asked for hito's reads on our game, please

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Dude NSG is barely playing her own game, don't try to manipulate NSG into changing my reads. I watched Mathdino do this when we hydraed. Not gonna work here.

ok i think eddie wanted to engage with her and like honestly trying to eat my new pair of shoes is more productive than me trying to engage with you so... i'll take another sample of you trying to shoot me and my team down :/

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I know that you're trying to present yourself as the reasonable one in this dichotomy but you're really not when you're wagoning a claimed investigative on D1 because they called you scum.

Bad duck no breadcrumbs, etc.

honestly don't give a shittttt
i'm not trying to appear reasonable
i'm like tearing my hair out

if i appear reasonable on my own, ha ha, maybe that's because i'm sincerely extremely frustrated !

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ok i think eddie wanted to engage with her and like honestly trying to eat my new pair of shoes is more productive than me trying to engage with you so... i'll take another sample of you trying to shoot me and my team down :/

???

shoot you and your team down? lol

ya
lol

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you know what i'm gonna post naked reads and engage with other people

i implore y'all to just lynch rc for 1) scumflip 2) so i can play this game without hating myself for doing so ;]

but if not i'll just engage lurkmode when rc is around. i'm stressed enough from real life. team mafia is a whole thing but like...mafia just ain't worth it

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talk to me postgame rc

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my position in this game is of my own volition.
everything eddie has said/encouraged has been marked as coming from eddie

please do not attack my teammates' integrity, RC. they aren't here to defend themselves. that is as low as it gets.

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look eddie wants to engage with nsg indirectly because this tw/rc engagement is tanking hard & making the game horrible to read. he thinks he can have a better conversation with nsg than i can. in a world where we're t/t, he and nsg can find each other easier than he can accurately read you. and he's hoping finding some common ground without us flinging shit at each other is the right way to deescalate the situation.

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yeah ok
ignoring eddie's attempts to be reasonable
refusing to involve nsg
shitting on me for ?? speaking up ?? because it lacks integrity

you're just scum dude

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do you think xtoxm is scum?
i'm like, assertively null on him aorn

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god forbid i should be seen as reasonable

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i'm just gonna park RC unless i have a stronger scumread
and call em as i sees em

like to be candid
i'm calling his presence in this game insidious
which is dangerous to just "leave and deal with later if it's still alive"

but i definitely understand where you're coming from.

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hey math if you're still around

eddie asked why you're voting xtoxm when looking for RC partners given he's one of two RC votes

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VOTE: ico

so i like ico too
i think he's doing iconeum things
i don't think he's prompting stupid fights to generate friction
i don't think he's disengaged on things i'd expect townconeum to be disengaged on d1

d1 ico is kinda lynchbaity
i think he just looks like d1 townconeum

i've asked eddie for his comments as well

pedit: i'm null but very concerned on ari
not a hard scumread just...poe-ey

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sorry that was meant to be earlier, got pedit'd

eddie thinks ico... in duck words, "has a limited scumrange".

stuff like this pings him as very natural:

hi skitter

i'm here

wanna talk about stuff

before you say that i am dodging you again

dude i'm spending more time googling what you are saying then anything else here fml

50 bucks says floppie hasn't actually read past that mathblade post yet

not really

I'm going with the flow a bit, I don't have enough strenght to push this game in the direction I want, which is Floppy. There's a strong scumread on him in my head, but I've also already largely written that out in here but nobody seems interested yet.

Watching closely to see how this is playing out wrt Tris, on which I don't really have a read rn.

I'm considering this to be a chill game despite some players trying to prove otherwise, and I'm quite happy with having a few good townreads and a few good scumreads rn. There's nothing I can do to force the low-content scumreads to post more, so yeah.

he feels like these are just not things scum does in this kind of gamestate to white knight, esp. vs someone like RC

it doesn't feel like scum defending a partner

so it's kinda defaulting to town

i don't really see ari as scum

would lynch in xtoxm/bella/flopz all before ari

I know you know ari a LOT better then I do, but does that fuck all attitude doesn't read like it comes from scum

Alright lads, new year ergo new me. I'm getting REAL annoyed at all these players jumping down on me just because I'm not good at this game. RadisntCowbells (what kind of name even is that?) and teacher implying I'm scum.

What a load of horseshit!

Back off NOW and stop scumreading me for shitty reasons. All I was doing was saying I'm involving myself in the game and all I got in return was attack after bloody attack. How am I supposed to even breathe at this point?!?!?

I joined as a personal favour to Hectic but nobody told me it was going to be like this. I thought this was supposed to be a fun game wiht intersesting debates where everyone was supposed to critique the arguments and not belittle everyone's character but this was completely different to that. Who'd want their first game to be filled with such utter tripe? I expected better from such

VETERANS

. If Team Mafia is supposed to be representative of the site as a whole, the mods should be clamping down on this toxicity and personal attacks. Aggressiveness and enthusiasm are absolutely fine, attacks and toxicity are beyond the pale.

Just look at 154, how is that even allowed?

My Team has already lost the game at this point so this is just a slog for slogging's sake. Hopkirk spent fucking eages ranting about this shit on this discord about how it's now literally impossible for us to win no matter what we fucking do. We've spent more time arguing about that then I have even spent in this terrible game. We've already got a modkill on D1 which has killed much of my enthusiam for Team Mafia and all this bullshittery going on is not fucking helping anything.

instead of quoting the one post this game has had that went into toxic territory (but it actually isn't toxic at all), I don't know what game you've been reading.

There's a lot of discussion out there about WHY you are potentially scum, but you seem to be ignorting this because? If you think you can hide behind calling this game and it's players toxic, you are sadly mistaken.

If you want debates, how about you start adressing the posts that call you scum? Or make actual contributions to the game? Because you called your previous posts 'not scumhunting' yourself.

he also doesn't think this feels like scum aggression


as an aside when he went thru the iso to pick out post #s he said he's doubling down on this read

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i thought voting skitter at the time was actually kinda spicy. :/

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Titus said the more confusing you were the more town you were.

... holy shit please high five titus for me

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Also, he withholds Ank's read on Aristophanes? What? Why withhold the most relevant read on the person that he is currently voting and who is at the centre of the conversation lol

i was TRYING to make ari SWEAT
she gut scumread him iirc

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i told him i was withholding ankamius' read on him which artificially inflates the significance of the read

it's from ank which is ++significance but it's a gutread which is -significance

i wanted it to appear ImProtat.

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Hey...Juicy theory

RC+TW = SvS

I had reasons.

oh my god yes fuck yes
lynch rc when he flips scum lynch me
i implore u

pedit: ah sorry
it felt like a step away from the gamestate of wagoning lurkslots into wagoning someone whose posting pattern was trending upwards

eddie says hi skitter!

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RC+TW+Ari? Any takers

if this was the team
i'd be banking on bussing Ari d1
then coasting thru without really needing to interact w RC all that much

so you should probably just lynch RC or I

it's not the team though

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Ducky , I find this very weird when like, I've invited 121 convo. If you are confused, come sort me. Stop vague-blogging about me.

sorry, i really haven't been taking people up on their offers to engage much yet - moving house + working a fair bit + not all that well irl so i can't like. be here when i'd like to to engage with people meaningfully.

i'm like... not totally sure how to approach reading you

i don't think i totally trust myself to read you correctly at face value (survivor legendary i think is probably a prime example of how paranoid i'm capable of getting about you for roughly no reason)

i think i'm kinda just waiting for things happen so i can reevaluate and try to make a call

eddie really strongly thinks you're very likely town though unless ~possibly~ scum with RC and i'm interested in having another read of you leaning into his reasoning + taking titus meta comment above into consideation

but yeah i haven't been very useful so far

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god forbid i should reevaluate my reads

aaarrrgggghhh scumduck!!!!

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i don't think you/ico actually look s/s aorn particularly coming from ico's pov

but i agree if i was looking for mislynches i'm sure i could swing an ico case ; )

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Like Ico literally tried to argue that I wasn't a likely scum nightkill relative to some others. That's exactly the kind of thing that you see and go hmm this is a SvS motivated thing to push

i don't think that's really ico's style as scum and i don't feel like he's having his strings pulled :s

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@duck, I could prolly dig out the game?

which game? i'll do some hunting if you'd like

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You should be more concerned that TW started townreading them out of the fucking blue when he needed slots to start siding with him than that I came to those positions over time.

i didn't feel the need to fabricate a legible trajectory for the thread
i reread them spoke with the team and reached a different conclusion
there ya go

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i didn't feel the need to fabricate a legible trajectory for the thread
i reread them spoke with the team and reached a different conclusion
there ya go

All at the point where suddenly earning towncred was more important than having mislynches to push, yes.

so i didn't go for towncred
ok rc

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i reevaluated my reads because my reads changed
i didn't frame them in a way that was townreadable; you yourself have acknowledged that

i'm pushing you as a scumread. which i've stated on several occasions. you're now both spamming and blatantly misrepresenting me lol. like you're desperately trying to make yourself more policy lynchable.

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ouch
that's not a great exchange

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it's all like, really clearly pushing ~an agenda~ but you're treating me with just enough negligence that you don't need to slow down and check yourself on any point

like fmpov you're getting scummier every time you post

my claimed belief is that i don't give a stuff if you're bussing or not, aorn. my claimed belief is that i don't have a firm read on ari and i do have a firm scumread on you. ergo, am voting you.

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Hell, I was like repeatedly reaching out to you. I wish Duck would interact with me. I wish Duck would engage with me. I am sad because Duck is either scum or refusing to engage with me.

Everyone in this game was making reach out to you after reach out to you and I already lampshaded that earlier in the game and somehow you can't get invested because of me?

all of these things are true ya
as stated like more than once i haven't really had the time to dedicate to sitting down and actively engaging with people in a meaningful way

i've had much more limited blocks of time for site stuff than usual; i've needed to put these into volunteer stuff. i'm never going to use that stuff as an excuse, but stuff i've elected to be held responsible for always comes before a game.

given a couple of weeks my schedule will start to free the fuck up but i literally had so many people saying "yo duck reach out to me" and i was like "...good god what do you WANT from me...." that i just ignored them until i could post more

not sorry for this and i'm not sorry you chose to position me being unavailable as scummy before i was available o.0

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What you're really saying when you say I don't need to check myself on any point is that I'm telling the truth

what it means is you're hypertunnelling and not checking yourself at any point; which means you're either so pissed off as town that you're functionally pushing an agenda or you're scum pushing an agenda.

like the rest of that post is the kind of town meta which means either:
- you're town, or
- you're scum who is aware he can use this as a defence

and i don't think either is outside your town or scum range so

i'm just not going to bother going down the rabbit hole

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RC are you going to get the duck to say “I am scum lynch me”? No. Then shut up.
The worst are you going to get RC to say “I am scum Lynch me”? No. Then shut up.

We get it. You claim the other is scum. None of this is convincing and is irritating.

Y’all are pulling MathBlade tunnels. Stop it. (Says this completely self aware that this is self-deprecating.)

this is a cute post :<

whatever, sorry for my contributions to making this thread a shitshow. i didn't mean to complain about how annoying this game is then smear mud all over it, i got caught in the moment.

i'm just going to like, not, for a bit.

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we're not lynching either of u so can we just like ... stop now?

*thumbs up*

could whoever catches ari online just.. try to engage with him earnestly? he's not that hard to read, i still feel kinda bad for not trying in AvP, and the fact he's like 3/4 of the game behind with unstated reads means he should hopefully be really obvious if he tries to be readable...

pedit: i agree i'm becoming more of a 'lategame person', mathb's callout earlier was kinda spiritually healthy

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i'm going to be honest and say that i haven't really read any of the posts in the like last two pages

this is wise.

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Alright. I WILL be able to fully catch up a few hours from now. In the meantime does anyone have anything they want to say to me right now?

if you could talk thru how you're reading iconeum, bella, mathblade or teacher that would help me

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esp. your thoughts on all of like {tw ari plum xtoxm ico}

fyi i decided against these bc like

that's me!!!

ari/xto afk & lurksacking; i can't really think of an interesitng way to read either of them

plum i probably should have included

ico is a good read atm imo

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i'll do 5 positive memories a bit later, sorry, just a bit flat. i need to fix my mindset.

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hmm i never realised that you liked my scumgame from early on. thanks.

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i'm fine waiting til sunday

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I'm working too much

this is in character....take care of yourself ari

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right back at you. ♥ i don't know how you don't burn out with your schedule.

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RC is pretending we're scumbuddies.
i'm not engaging further than this.

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i still don't have a read on ari
we had the same rxn to flopz' posting but i also don't have a read on flopz...