Team Mafia 2018: Inventions Mafia Day 4

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Oh cool, I need to catch up 10 pages.

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Page 3
xRECKONERx is a fine wagon.

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Probably town for this move alone btw.

???

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we're not giving the hider to a townread

I agree.

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Unless you trust I'll hide behind the right person.

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Is it alright to give hider to someone in the scumpool and force that someone to target someone else in the scumpool?

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I so hate when I don't have a VC in a silver platter.

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EBWOP

{Katyusha, GL, Primate}
{RC, Mastina, Something_Smart, Chesskid}
{xRECKONERx, Hinduragi, Aneninen}

Forgot chess.

I didn't notice GL nor Primate posting lol.

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oh but ill give a teaser.

VOTE: Mastina

hurr these two are scum votes the way townier one

VOTE: mastina

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Not feeling Cheekyscum, but feeling mastinascum. Haven't seen how wrong mastina is other than the reachy conclusion about RC.

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I agree on Reck. Haven't seen SS nor chess.

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What do you think about giving RC the hider?

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Okay then.

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I noticed 186 btw and so maybe it isn't so reachy anymore.

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pedit: creature you think rc is scummy?

No, I was suggesting RC because I trusted in RC's abilities more.

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Didn't notice.

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I already townread Katyusha before the game even started.

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Not sure on the heeky scum part, mr. Oner.

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*cheeky

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Other than that your reads feel agreeable.

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I'll be back after school ends.

but doesn't school take a year long to end?

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chesskid, Cheeky and me. Okay then

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Though, Cheeky feels like the place scum would most likely whiteknight.

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Have you played with SS before Creature?

I’m not good at reading people who aren’t pushing anything but if you have insight that be cool

Yes, I have played with SS before and even hydra'd with him. Still not confident enough to call a townread on him.

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At first glance Srceen seems town.

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Also, xRECKONERx has way too many scumreads (8).

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Assuming Errantparabola, who hasn't posted, is the null-line.

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VOTE: Aneninen

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Thoughts on xRECKONERx having 8 scumreads?

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Still that's a lot of null-scum.

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If RC/Adenine/Creature/Katyusha/Mastina are all town then we're 3 short of poe

Huh? Tell me more about Aneninen.

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Maybe 2010 players usually had more scumreads than townreads.

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Or both.

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Creature follow me on hindu?

I townlean him for now.

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off the top of my head bigyoshifan + errant are probably very likely town since this day 1 feels like one with 2+ scum scumfucking it up to prevent consensus forming.

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chesskid, who do we do?

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It's something else. Obviously not confident enough. Still not my favorite wagon.

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Okay, I was already there anyway.

VOTE: mastina

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I thought you moved it onto Aninen earlier

Yes, I did. Doesn't invalidate the affirmation though.

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Oh cool, we'll have to wait mastina...

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Not wagoning Cheeky.

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RC, who is the best wagon?

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RC, who is the best wagon?

zzzz

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Against quicklynching btw.

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Hopefullily VC comes soon.

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It's a problem if she turns out to be town.

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I may even rather have a 12 days D1.

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pedit: that seems like a difficult to imagine if at this point

Still gonna wait.

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Meanwhile, what do you think about Aneninen?

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Creature: Null-town.

Bad.

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UNVOTE:

Still want mastina to do stuff.

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I may still return to the wagon, I'm just not going to quicklynch.

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I may still return to the wagon, I'm just not going to quicklynch.

YOU PEOPLE KEEP USING THIS WORD

SHE HAS THREE

FUCKING

VOTES

FROM AN ABSURD AMOUNT OF RESISTANCE

CANT EVEN KEEP THE WAGON AT L MINUS FUCKING FOUR CONSISTENTLY GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE

idk, I kinda agree RC is the only resistance.

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Creature, does Chesskid not remind you of my scum game?

Nope.

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Creature, does Chesskid not remind you of my scum game?

Nope.

Oh sorry, misunderstood the question.

chesskid doesn't remind me of his scum game.

Not sure about yours.

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YOU, CHEEKY, YOSHI

S_S AVOIDING

HINDU NOT JOINING

CREATURE UNVOTING




FUCK OUTTA HERE WITH THIS ONE PERSON SHIT

Who's scum here?

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CHESSKID. RADIANTCOWBELLS. STEP THE FUCK AWAY FROM THE THREAD FOR TEN FUCKING MINUTES.

whichever one of you (or both?) is town, you're poisoning the game and making it way fucking harder for town to do its job.

Gotta agree here.

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YOU, CHEEKY, YOSHI

S_S AVOIDING

HINDU NOT JOINING

CREATURE UNVOTING




FUCK OUTTA HERE WITH THIS ONE PERSON SHIT

Who's scum here?

MASTINA

Out of the players you mentioned in post 658.

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Mulch scumreads RC and townreads chesskid btw.

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probs S_S

Alright.

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Well, there are still like 20 minutes of pro-towness to make use of.

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Btw my reck read is solid town now. This is town reck.

Unvote

Misread "This is town wreck".

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What do you think about BigYoshi?

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Personally I don't like him listing me as just null-town.

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Well, there are still like 20 minutes of pro-towness to make use of.

What does everyone think about electing a scum/scum read to hide behind a scum/null read?
I think it’s to dangerous to have a town read in the mix. I would rather risk someone unsorted or hard to sort.

What if a real scum claims to have hid behind a scumbuddy?

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I think 618 is town.

Already noticed Cheeky was town long ago, but whatever.

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Vote: Cheeky

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Any way I can hide posts from two specific users?

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Their last post was at 6:36 am

without discussing other games, what other game should I be reading

Micro 600?

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I guess I understand where the chesskid townreads come from.

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Now I just need to find a way to read RC.

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RadiantCowbells, Katyusha, xRECKONERx

Primate, Creature

ErrantParabola, Srceenplay, Something_Smart, Hinduragi, mastina, GuiltyLion

Aneininen, CheekyTeeky

chesskid3

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Have a good night guys!

tbh I don't expect someone to have RadiantCowbells and chesskid3 on different extremes.

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The first fun 24 hours of team mafia have passed and there are many more fun hours of team mafia to come in the future! I hope you are all enjoying the event and this game

It sounds like I'm on a theme park.

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Also adenine is very probably not scum

lol what?

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IF THE SCUMTEAM IS PRIMATE/RECKONER/CHESSKID3 AS OF NOW I AM CLAIMING MYSELF THE OFFICIAL MVP OF TEAM MAFIA.

I don't see Reck and chess together.

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I can agree on Reck, but not chesskid.

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AKA, "The people who voted mastina are town".

idk, you also seem to think Reck and chess are both scum for working together (?).

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I need more real-time interaction with mastina.

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Why is Hinduragi scum?

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I still find scumreading both chess and Reck something unrealistic.

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We could do a lol-lurker-wagoning time.

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I said wagoning, not lynching.

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And calling ep town is a logical conclusion because Ep doesn't take scum

Okay.

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What about LurkLion?

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You TR mastina because you expected her to do better as scum, right?

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Okay then.

So here's that: I want to sort as many players as possible rather than just votepark chesskid/Reck.

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It works better when the lynch is unpredictable.

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I don't know about Reck.

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We give hider to Reck?

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Personally I don't like him listing me as just null-town.

Do you think people should be reading you as pro-town then?

Expected a stronger townread rather than an hesitant townread.

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Personally I don't like him listing me as just null-town.

Do you think people should be reading you as pro-town then?

Expected a stronger townread rather than an hesitant townread.

From him specifically or generally?

From him specifically.

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Even chesskid?

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Creature can I sheep you?

Sheep on who?

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Oh cool, we complain about the toxicity.

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I need time from this game.

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I can confirm you would say you can't be wagoned without scum being on the wagon, but that's regardless of alignment.

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I can confirm you would say you can't be wagoned without scum being on the wagon, but that's regardless of alignment.

hey youre here can we talk for a minute

About what?

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I'm gonna be honest, I don't know how to sort RC rn.

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I need to interact with mastina more.

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Creature talk to me I wanna tell u something

What?

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Did you really change your avatar just for this?

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Okay I just moved to page 27 and noticed there are now 77 pages.
I'm literally fucking moving BACKWARDS in terms of progress compared to the thread. I'm reading the fucking game (admittedly it apparently takes me like 45 minutes per page butstill) and yet new pages are fucking appearing FASTER THAN I CAN ACTUALLY READ THEM. Because when I started, there were less than 73 pages today in spite of me being on page 23. I was less than fifty pages behind, and now I'm fifty fucking pages behind and counting, in spite of there having been almost no gaps in my catch-up aside from one or two distractions.

I think my point about the fucking spam has been proven.

Hint: Skip chesskid3 and RadiantCowbells.

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Creature is a universal town read yes?
Give him hider and let him town clear whomever he wants.
Stop with all of your back and forth deals and winfom.

Let’s move on.

Not sure if I want it though.

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I'm most likely surviving without it.

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Oh right, I did.

Do you accept being next day's lynch if mastina flips town?

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I'm gonna wait the VC.

Btw, mastina caught up until which page?

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Sorry, I haven't bothered to read the last few pages.

I guess mastina becomes more obvious after D1.

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What did I miss?

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So we're trying new wagons? Cool!

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Creature I take back everything I said about you being a shitty nightkill if you vote with me here.

Didn't notice you talking about that.

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I don't want the hider btw.

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I'm in support of the GuiltyLion wagon.

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It's 1:23 AM for me, tomorrow I focus better.

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Mulch's reads are:
chesskid town
mastina scum
RC no idea
BYF town

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Mulch's reads are:
chesskid town
mastina scum
RC no idea
BYF town

Do you still think GuiltyLion is scum?

I need to recheck GuiltyLion.

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More Mulch's reads:
chesskid town
RC scum
mastina 100% scum

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Oh right, and I, myself, am thinking GuiltyLion wouldn't be a good lynch rn.

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I still townread Cheeky. What's wrong about Cheeky?

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I guess we stick with the mastina lynch.

Now who gets the hider?

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My team rn has both mastina and RC as scum.

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VOTE: mastina

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It shouldn't matter who gets the invention as long it isn't RC.

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Can we not vote RC so fast? I think we could use this day to estabilish a PoE.

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Yey Aneninen is (prob) town

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Feeling like GuiltyLion was a town counterwagon to scum!mastina

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Like the way the top five posters are gone.

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-if scum did bus, I think it's between Creature/BYF/singersigner, they are in the sweet spot of "hop on this wagon as it's inevitably happening at this point anyway and we need to get something out of it"

It's more that Mulch was 100% sure mastina was scum based on the chessbereth mechanism brought up. While Quick had a pretty solid meta read on RC.

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The chesskid-RC spam yesterday hurt town hard, though RC was most likely aware of it than chesskid was.

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Oh right, I stood away from mastina wagon for a while because I thought she was just late, but whenever she posted I got no town pings I usually get from her.

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This was ofc aimed at the scumteam, not you lovely people <3

Oh right. RC basically confed himself after mastina lynch.

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Gonna analyse these daystart reactions:

Srceenplay reacted towny.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

This Day's a no-brainer.

@MOD, Does the Vengeful ability work only at Day phase, or Night too?

Reacted towny too.

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Reck, your sacrifice will not be forgotten.
I think vengeful should go to someone who will need to be lynched before LYLO.

Oh right, this can be town for now.

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Huh, vengeful seems like a weird invention to have since they're all public. Whoever we vote for we're essentially saying we don't want them to die, since scum likely wouldn't NK someone unless they were pretty sure they'd shoot town.

Unless we were voting weighing in policy and potential scumminess because if we lynch the person elected and we're wrong they have the option of going 1:1...

Let me see:
1. We give it to someone really towny
2. We give it to someone good at scumhunting regardless of our read on them
3. We give it to someone suspicious

With or without leash

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Only town will get to use the vengekill without being endgamed, so it's alright.

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I don't think there are four scum.

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Returning to my PoE:

Aneninen

Katyusha
Ghostlin (Hinduragi)

RadiantCowbells

Something_Smart

signersinger (Primate)
Errantparabola

Srceenplay

Smocaine (chesskid3)

GuiltyLion

BigYoshiFan

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Returning to my PoE:

Aneninen

Katyusha
Ghostlin (Hinduragi)

RadiantCowbells

Something_Smart

signersinger (Primate)
Errantparabola

Srceenplay

Smocaine (chesskid3)

GuiltyLion

BigYoshiFan

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Fixed.

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Wild guess:

Last scum is signersinger/Primate.

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i disagree, i really felt singer's entrance and later engagement was townie and i'm trusting shea's read here

It's mostly that it seems Primate got a really easy townread from RC, but whatever.

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I remember someone giving an easy townread on Primate and I thought it was RC.

Meh, not going to bother checking a spam-filled ISO.

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Okay singersigner, who's scum then?

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Why Smocaine? Did chesskid really expose two of his teammates?

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Anemone lol

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So third scum is Ghostlin?

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I want the VC.

Though, I agree on giving Ghostlin the vengeful.

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I wonder if RC will make me laugh, I need some laugh nowadays.

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oh I mean it'll be legendary

but don't expect me to let yall discuss shit or anything, that ain't happening.

Sure, you'll make me more level-headed.

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Does anyone mind this day going for a bit more while?

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Having a feeling RC must've made the final scum look good based on interactions.

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Hey singersigner, do you townread BYF?

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Hey singersigner, do you townread BYF?

I don't particularly

scum

read him, why?

EBWOP

and you don't townread either, right?

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Sounds like

she

's creating a false dichotomy for the purpose of figuring out why he can't accept a "null/haven't flushed out a read on him, yet" answer.

Who are you referring to here?

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Whatever.

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What do you think about singersigner's reactiveness (mainly #3242)?

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I'm guessing we stick with the lynch Anen/Ghost venge the other.

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but I don't want this day to end so early.

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Still don't think it's GuiltyLion.

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Anyone has experiences with gigabyteTroubadour?

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Creature can you unpack byf!NotPOE for me bc I feel pretty strongly there

How easy can you read BYF?

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Smocaine

Who chesskid thinks is the third scum?

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Page 128

I can sorta see BYF being town here.

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Katyusha and Something_Smart very likely town, just need to recheck some pages.

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I still really need to sort singersigner and Errantparabola.

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Sounds like he's creating a false dichotomy for the purpose of figuring out why he can't accept a "null/haven't flushed out a read on him, yet" answer.

singersigner, do you think this scummy?

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singersigner, what do you think about Errantparabola?

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singersigner, who do you think RC was trying to make look good D1?

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singersigner, why do you think RC would hard-defend his buddy? Was it because his third buddy would be in a good position? If yes, then who is most likely to be that third buddy?

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singersigner, do you have experiences with Errantparabola? Does he play like this as town¹?

¹ = I mean: making posts such as 2860 which I haven't read.

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Also, how tf Errant hasn't been even prodded yet?

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singersigner, do you think my questions are scummy?

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Hey Tchill, are you here?

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Sounds fair.

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Not sure if vengeful will be given along the lynch if we do the same player.

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Would rather not risk.

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Huh what?

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Was that action real?

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I mean the counterspell.

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Sorta sucks when you have to lynch the confscum today, hope to not get nightkilled tonight and run the risk of town getting sweeped by the last scum.

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Smocaine, what chesskid is saying?

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Who's most likely scum? Who to never lynch?

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The summary of my reads right now.

<towniest>

Creature, Singersinger
Srceenplay
Chesskid
...
Katyusha, BigYoshiFan
Something_Smart
...
ErrantParabola
...
GuiltyLion, Ghostlin

<scummiest>

I'd promote Katyusha here.

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I guess we lynch RC anyway and Ghostlin will be able to help us tomorrow despite being locklynch.

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unless scum wants to concede now.

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Ghostlin already got his invention, right?

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VOTE: Ghostlin

For now.

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Maybe I might change my mind.

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Don't hammer Ghostlin yet btw.

Wait until I come tomorrow.

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I guess 2, because scum!Ghostlin would've conceded.

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Posting just so I don't forget about this game.

Two nightkills on two useful players...

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Guessing the nightkills weren't because they were correct, but rather just scum getting rid of the loudmouths.

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also we should win on today's lynch

If we lynch scum, and it's not what we're doing rn.

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Leaning on Aneninen being scum.

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So you got something from chesskid?

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Uh sure, might try to be active.

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Kind of hoping Ghostlin > venge Aneninen should end the game and I'm not that pessimistic.

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Whatever

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Just surprised scum wouldn't be putting much effort, though town isn't doing either.

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Was Ghost hammered?

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rn following the common options. Paranoia is for later.

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Pretty sure RC dictated to kill Cheeky and Katyusha, the easiest townreads for me.