Dannflor's Mini Normal Review, December 2022 (Released)

[mastina]

If this setup were all-goons I'd pass it as-is to be honest. The town has a lot of tools to deny scum their preferred kills, but they are all situational and gated in their own ways, with the weak hider being their only investigative tool.

But the 1x strongman is just too absurdly powerful here as it counters literally

every

town PR.

If you want the scum to have a power role, my suggestion would be to change it to be something completely different, and to compensate, to give the town a little extra in the form of an extra role that doesn't overwhelmingly shift the balance into their favor.

[mastina]

yo

[mastina]

When it comes to the setup in 8, I would say marginally townsided because scum have no counterplay and the town has a bunch of killstopper power. It would indeed be very unfun for the scum.

It's fine to have a lot of killstopper power, but if so, the killstopper power must be gated and/or the scum must have counterplay. The scum counterplay shouldn't completely nullify the killstoppers, nor should it be so worthless as to never help; the town should have gates which prevent them from shutting down the mafia entirely.

If the idea is for the best town players to live, then having protective roles suited to that would help. Babysitter, Bodyguard, Rolestopper, Alien, Jailkeeper, Doctor. The go-to counters for the scum would be a strongman and/or a roleblocker.

The best balance of roles/gates, I can give better feedback on when you give a revamp on.

[mastina]

I'm not sure about fun, but 16 looks balanced to me. If the scum lose their rb it'll be harder, but not a death sentence. JK is strong, but doesn't break the game unless two scum die. The gated nature of the other PRs means they won't have to worry long-term.

The TPRs are strong, but not too strong.

I'll let Ausuka chime in, but I'm okay with it.

[mastina]

Macho Watcher is fine to me, I think you're good setup-wise.

Just need role PMs, results, etc.

[mastina]

I'm not sure Dann's still around.

Notably, I'm going on vacation for the next ten days so might not be around if the review is still on.

But I think Dann might be siteflaked?

[mastina]

Ok in the absence of mastina input I am going to run this as simple

Yeah it is