Umlaut wrote:Here is the setup for my recent /in to mod a mini normal.
Roles
1xMafia Roleblocker
1xMafia Traitor-Enabler Bodyguard
1x(knows there are three town PRs, one of which is a Detective)Mafia Informed Traitor
1xTown Detective
1x(1-Shot Follower, 1-Shot Hider, 1-Shot Vigilante)Town Jack-of-All-Trades
1xTown Combined Doctor Checker
7xTownie
Mechanics
- Days are 7 IRL days; nights are 2 IRL days.
- Majority-only elimination mechanics.
- All private topics have daytalk.
- All roles are multitasking.
Spoiler: Role PMs
Spoiler: Result PMs
My rules post will be substantially similar to this one from my last mini normal, but I can write it out explicitly for you if needed.
Umlaut's Mini Normal Review, March 2022
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Umlaut's Mini Normal Review, March 2022
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It's definitely *possible* to give a JoAT an extra shot of something, inasmuch as JoAT is an alias for a multirole. I just don't remember if there's precedent for it still being called a JoAT.
Also, have we seen traitor enabler? I though it was one of the things discussed in the changes to normal games thread but I looked there when I got the setup and I don't think it was; we discussedbackuptraitor there but not traitor enabler and idr any setups that had it.-
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aah. yeah. i found it and yep. and Gypyx pointed out that there was another review from 2017 where Nexus hard veto'd it.
My thoughts are basically the same as they were then, that it's a little imperfect for obvious reasons but that the actual cost is not super high because no one will be "unpleasantly" surprised (the traitor isn't gonna complain about being added as full scum, the scumteam already knows what's going on and the town would know what's going on as soon as it's relevant to them). And that from a design perspective it is actually useful.-
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ugh... this is ambiguous. And there are a lot of possible cases here that should all have the same answer (should a disabled cop have a gun? should a disabled mafia doctor have a gun? what does a disabled cop show up to to a vaniilla cop? what about a neapolitan?)
I think the most consistent way to resolve all these is that these roles still allarethe role in question, and being disabled doesn't change the name of the role, which is what roles like gunsmith and vanilla cop are tied to. So gunsmith should get no gun on the traitor for the whole game here, and consequently I think gunsmith is just a bad choice for this setup, perhaps.
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