DkKoba's Mini Normal Review, March 2022

[Ircher]

And to be clear: if a regular neighbor dies, that inherits the role too, I am assuming.

I'm fairly certain Neighbor does not count as a role for UB.

I am actually pretty sure that the opposite is true which may be a problem since universal backup --> neighbor effectively makes the slot confirmed town. I will see if I can find a reference for that tonight.

If I'n wrong about that, everything else looks fine.

[Ircher]

Going by the wiki, the normal guidelines section for universal backup says it inherits any non-vanilla role of the same alignment. A neighbor would return a non-vanilla result to a vanilla cop, so it should be able to be inherited.

[Ircher]

I checked the wiki page for vanilla cop.

Vanilla Cop is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. When the role is called "Vanilla Cop", Vanilla Townies, Mafia Goons, and Serial Killers with no additional powers return a "Vanilla" result, while all other roles return "not Vanilla".

By that definition, neighbors return a non-vanilla result to vanilla cops.

[Ircher]

ircher, with knowledge that the UB isnt instant cleared, how would you classify it?

In that case, I'm fine with the setup. I would suspect that most people are still going to townread a Universal Backup --> Neighbor interaction, but with it not be clearing, I don't think it affects the balance significantly enough to bring it outside of balanced range. I don't have anything else to add that mastina hasn't already said.

[Ircher]

UB finder, I am assuming based on how UB works, does not receive a positive result on the player that was UB after they inherit a role.

I believe that's correct.

In the universal backup pm, I would edit "You will inherit the role of Town power roles who die, losing this ability in the process." to "You will inherit the role of the first Town power role who dies, losing this ability in the process."

Mafia win condition technically has the "at least one mafia still alive" clause as well (though it pretty much never matters in a mini normal).

Everything else looked fine to me.