Mizzytastic's Large Normal Review, February 2022

[Isis]

Can we run this with mafia informed of psychologist

I don't think you need other changes. 5 scum can influence 14 players pretty well

[Isis]

Post stuff in here so I don't forget to review role PMs and it bumps in my unreads

[Isis]

I'm not sure redacted flips aren't just bad.

Like you used "share a thread" for both the mafia and neighborhood PTs, someone could claim Neighbor D1 and paraphrase their role using the word "share", then mafia could get limmed instead, then D2 there is this tiny bit of probability there's really a neighborhood. That doesn't matter all that much but just like, I don't think everyone always thinks of everything, and I'm not sure what purpose is served by full flips in normal queue..

I'm not vetoing redacted flips from this game as a reviewer or anything, just opinions.


I will actually nag about using the mafiascum wiki spelling for neighbor because i think that can add some confirmation.

I don't see anything else

[Isis]

Vorthos (flavor): traitors shouldn't know the mafia's roles because they're just citizens who decided they want the town to fall to crime and rule-by-criminal.

Melvin(mechanics)- a traitor is a role that is in ever respect like a gunless goon, with a singular change that the mafia's group of them is omitted, assymetrically. Deprivation of the traitor's knowledge is not part of the mechanical principle so the traitor should know the Mafia's roles.

Just thought that's interesting to think about. I don't feel strongly

[Isis]

Idt it's good to bake a preference for vigging into the compulsive role.

[Isis]

You can receive fruit twice in mafia

[Isis]

I don't know how compulsivity on multiple roles is supposed to work exactly, but this one might be nonnormal. Usually compulsive fruit vendor on a mafia precludes the mafia kill, so I think multiple town roles is probably supposed to work the same way.

I just think it seems nonneutral to resolve no-submission towards a certain action on the compulsive-vig + compulsive fruit vendor. I think a lack of submission should flip a coin for which role is used and also flip a coin for the target, rather than picking one role to have primacy over the other as a moderator.

[Isis]

All investigative roles are minimally useful on the ascetic actually

[Isis]

What if you just do a regular 2 shot vig and make the 4shot follower a 4shot combined gunsmith follower?

[Isis]

Looks good