Dwlee99's Mini Normal Review, July 2021
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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It looks like this this game viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86195& shows that there is precedence for combined rolestops. Andres role this game was odd-night combined neighborizer rolestopper.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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The role pm for ease of access.
I'm also noticing I should probably word my role PMs a bit more carefully by adding "assuming no interference with your action."
Pedit: Mailman is announcing mainly because it was recommended on the wiki to make it clear that the message came from a mailman rather than a mod.
Commuter can't make the night kill while commuting.
Rolecop is complex because I want there to be ambiguity in if the action failed because roleblock/ascetic or from the modifier. IE, the ascetic goon can fake claim VT from the rolecop check. And the rolecop is already extremely strong if it targets the rolestopper role, which makes me think it is important to nerf it a bit.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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If I can't make scum default multitasking I guess I have to just go with that public knowledge thing. It does hint towards the possibility of a rolecop in a way that "scum can multitask the factional kill" doesn't because if there was no rolecop I could just put multitasking on the mafia without caring.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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I think scum might have too much ability to interfere with night actions so how about
Mafia Mailman
Mafia Combined Rolecop Voyeur
Mafia Bulletproof Ascetic
Town Novice Traffic Analyst
Town One-shot Simple Cop Neighbor
Town 1-shot Activated Bulletproof
Town Compulsive JOAT (Neighborize, Complex Rolecop, Lazy Roleblock)
Town Simple Jailkeeper
5x VT
Removing the activated ascetic also removes things that can mess with power roles.
I don't think mass claim breaks the game because the jailkeeper can't protect power roles and the mailman can probably claim mailman.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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I think scum might have too much ability to interfere with night actions so how about
Mafia Mailman
Mafia Combined Rolecop Voyeur
Mafia Bulletproof Ascetic
Town Novice Traffic Analyst
Town One-shot Loyal Cop Neighbor
Town 1-shot Activated Bulletproof Neighbor
Town Compulsive JOAT (Neighborize, Complex Rolecop, Lazy Roleblock)
Town Simple Jailkeeper
5x VT
Maybe by making the cop loyal we could give it an incentive to clear a townie? I'm also thinking maybe the traffic analyst can be not novice, and that would help.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Hmm okay yea let's do that.
Mafia Mailman
Mafia Combined Rolecop Voyeur
Mafia Bulletproof Ascetic
Town Traffic Analyst
Town One-shot Loyal Cop
Town Simple Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town 1-shot Activated Bulletproof Neighbor
Town Compulsive JOAT (Neighborize, Complex Rolecop, Lazy Roleblock)
5x VTI prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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I think implosion said I can make just the mafia default multitasking if I put it in my public game knowledge, so the JOAT shouldn't be a problem. I'm worried about making the BP passive because it would cause the mafia to need a fifth mislim to win, and I don't think they have enough compensation for that.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Yep, I will do that.In post 41, ChaosOmega wrote:I think we still need the new role PM's for the changed roles and list of possible results they can get.
I think I'm okay with the current balance. I think scum have agency, but town has a lot of things going for it as well.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Mafia Mailman
Mafia Combined Rolecop Voyeur
Mafia Bulletproof Ascetic
Town Traffic Analyst
Town One-shot Loyal Cop
Town Simple Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Compulsive JOAT (Neighborize, Complex Rolecop, Lazy Roleblock)
5x VT
Spoiler: Role PMs
Spoiler: Voyeur Results
Spoiler: Traffic Analyst ResultsI prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Mafia Mailman
Mafia Combined Rolecop Voyeur
Mafia Bulletproof Ascetic
Town Traffic Analyst
Town One-shot Loyal Cop
Town Simple Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Compulsive JOAT (Neighborize, Complex Rolecop, Lazy Roleblock)
5x VT
Spoiler: Role PMs
Spoiler: Voyeur Results
Spoiler: Traffic Analyst ResultsI prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Mafia Mailman
Mafia Combined Rolecop Voyeur
Mafia Bulletproof Ascetic
Town Novice Traffic Analyst
Town One-shot Simple Cop
Town Simple Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Compulsive JOAT (Neighborize, Complex Rolecop, Lazy Roleblock)
5x VT
This might be more balanced and less swingy because it makes it so the cop can't "confirm" people as scum unless they had claimed VT (because loyal with no result heavily implies you targeted scum) and also the cop can't confirm other power roles as being town.
The traffic analyst being novice also prevents there from being more than 2 conftown into day 3, which helps with swing. Maybe we could reduce the amount of scum power to account for these changes but I think that the best case for town power roles is too good.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Mafia Mailman
Mafia Combined Rolecop Voyeur
Mafia Bulletproof Ascetic
Town Novice Traffic Analyst
Town One-shot Loyal Cop
Town Simple Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Compulsive JOAT (Neighborize, Complex Rolecop, Lazy Roleblock)
5x VT
Spoiler: Role PMs
Spoiler: Voyeur Results
Spoiler: Traffic Analyst ResultsI prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Mafia Mailman
Mafia Combined Rolecop Voyeur
Mafia Bulletproof Ascetic
Town Novice Traffic Analyst
Town One-shot Cop
Town Simple Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Compulsive JOAT (Neighborize, Complex Rolecop, Lazy Roleblock)
5x VT
Spoiler: Role PMs
Spoiler: Voyeur Results
Spoiler: Traffic Analyst ResultsI prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Mafia Mailman
Mafia Combined Rolecop Voyeur
Mafia Bulletproof Ascetic
Town Novice Traffic Analyst
Town One-shot Cop
Town Simple Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Compulsive JOAT (Neighborize, Complex Rolecop, Lazy Roleblock)
5x VT
Spoiler: Role PMs
Spoiler: Voyeur Results
Spoiler: Traffic Analyst ResultsI prefer they, thanks :)-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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