Gypyx's Mini Normal Review, October 2020
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Egopost, i'll wait for your thoughts on the setupWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Hmmmm, could you develop on the problems that massclaim D1 might bring? I don't think that this is likely to happen but for future balance it would be good to know
I'm fine with dropping the compulsive, just that i wanted to avoid the player not acting in case he wanted to avoid being unable to investigate someone in the future
This is correct yes
I think it's the contrary here, like, if there is someone obviously scum enough to be both targeted by the babysitter and hider, the hider will die too, kind of an asshole interaction now that i think of it... i'm fine with tweaking the multi bg babysitter
Personal rolestopper can act as an anti-protectetive strongman too as it doesn't block the scumkill
I'm fine with the game slithgly leaning scumWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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I don't get that sentance, could you explain?
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Yeah, i'm not putting any backup without the primary role in the game, mod WIFOM isn't a good thingWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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By the way, i made a "power chart" to see if the setup is close to being balanced, and i might not evaluate correctly some PR's, but here's what i thought
Broken PR (bulletproof mason) : 15
Strong PR (cop) : 10
Decent PR (vig) : 8
Medium PR (tracker) : 6
Weak PR (Vanilla cop) : 3
Default : -15
Multi BG : 4
Backup baby : 5
Roaming det : 7
Tracker rber : 5
Disloayl hider : 2
Rolestopper : -4
JOAT : -5
Result : 23 vs 24White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Yeah personal can also do thatIn post 10, Flavor Leaf wrote:Maybe I’m not completely up to date on what Personal is. I thought it was like a Personal PT Cop wouldn’t get a positive result on Scum who’s only PT is the scum factional thread.White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Personal gunsmith could be a thing too i guess? Like, we're getting into the realm of weird roles, but a gunsmith who doesn't see mafia members as having a gun
Just a wild thought, i doubt that would fit into the spirit of normal games, even for meWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Well, anyways i don't think these roles fit into the current setup, but i'm keeping those as ideas, also i don't agree on the point that newer modifiers / roles are more expected than othersWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Also, i'd kinda like this question answered : does this setup looks fun / original to you guys?White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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hmmm, that's interesting, but the lot of "lottery tickets" or as someone said "small little fun toys" is intentional, like, my last normal (2169) was townsided af, but the players still enjoyed a lot that kind of setup, so i'm trying to do it again and see if it was just a single occurance or if that's actually what normal players likeWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Yep got it, just wanted to say that i'm experimenting basicallyWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Hmmm how about this : Multitasking Babysitter Compulsive Loud Bodyguard
And remove the compulsive from the detective
Also i had a small quality of life change in mind for maf :
Inform the JOAT that his activated informed ability tell him the list of all modifiers owned by town
To compensate, make the rolestopper NoviceWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Hmmm hold on, we might be getting into weirdness territory if my idea of a replacement for multi bg decides to target both him abilities at the same person
How about this :
Town Combined Friendly Neighbour Roleblocker
Town Backup Roleblocker
Town Roaming Detective
Town Lazy 2-shot Tracker 2-shot Motion Detector
Town Disloyal Hider
Mafia Novice 1-shot Personal Rolestopper
Mafia Informed Night 1,2 JOAT (Neighborizer, Rolecop, Alien, Watcher, Activated Informed), knows that thier activated information tells them all the modifiers that town has
Mafia Goon
Yeah, that's a lot of poking around the setup, but i kinda struggle to find good modifications to makeWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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No it also doesn't really work...
Help me review personsWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Then the mafia rolestopper would need to be replaced, how about by a 2-shot Simple Disloyal Watcher?White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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I could just take down the personal modifier, yeah i'll do that
So :
Town Combined Friendly Neighbour Roleblocker
Town Backup Roleblocker
Town Roaming Detective
Town Lazy Odd-Night Tracker Even-Night Motion Detector
Town Disloyal Hider
Mafia Novice 1-shot Rolestopper
Mafia Night 1,2 JOAT (Neighborizer, Rolecop, Alien, Watcher, Activated Informed), knows that thier activated information tells them all the modifiers that town has
Mafia Informed (knows that the mafia JOAT's informed ability tells him all of the modifiers owned by town)White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Just that the personal lost all it's purposeWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Rolestopper it is thenWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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I'll start pre-writing the role PM's by the wayWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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FN message :
You know that [FRIENDLY NEIGHBOUR] is aligned with theTown
[TARGET] has performed a kill
[TARGET] didn't perform any kill
You didn't receive any result, your action failed
[TARGET] visited [name of visisted]
[TARGET] didn't visit anyone
You detected motion on [TARGET]
You didn't detect any motion on [TARGET]
Results (oh god there's a lot)
You have successfully added [TARGET] to your neighborhood, you may find it [HERE]
You have been added to a neighborhood ! You may find it [HERE]
[TARGET] is a [ROLE OF THE TARGET]
[TARGET] has been visited by (list of visitors)
[TARGET] hasn't been visited by anyone
You know that town power owns the following modifiers, and only those
Backup
Combined
Disloyal
Even-Night
Lazy
Odd-Night
Roaming
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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look at that absolute monster of a role PM for the mafia JOAT lmaoWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 9043
- Joined: March 25, 2020
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- Location: France
FN message :
You know that [FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR] is aligned with theTown
[TARGET] has performed a kill
[TARGET] didn't perform any kill
You didn't receive any result, your action failed
[TARGET] visited [name of visisted]
[TARGET] didn't visit anyone
You detected motion on [TARGET]
You didn't detect any motion on [TARGET]
Results (oh god there's a lot)
You have successfully added [TARGET] to your neighborhood, you may find it [HERE]
You have been added to a neighborhood ! You may find it [HERE]
[TARGET] is a [ROLE OF THE TARGET]
[TARGET] has been visited by (list of visitors)
[TARGET] hasn't been visited by anyone
You know that town power owns the following modifiers, and only those
Backup
Combined
Disloyal
Even-Night
Lazy
Odd-Night
Roaming
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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In post 40, Gypyx wrote:
FN message :
You know that [FRIENDLY NEIGHBOUR] is aligned with theTown
[TARGET] has performed a kill
[TARGET] didn't perform any kill
You didn't receive any result, your action failed
[TARGET] visited [name of visisted]
[TARGET] didn't visit anyone
You detected motion on [TARGET]
You didn't detect any motion on [TARGET]
Results (oh god there's a lot)
You have successfully added [TARGET] to your neighborhood, you may find it [HERE]
You have been added to a neighborhood ! You may find it [HERE]
[TARGET] is a [ROLE OF THE TARGET]
[TARGET] has been visited by (list of visitors)
[TARGET] hasn't been visited by anyone
You know that town power owns the following modifiers, and only those
Backup
Combined
Disloyal
Even-Night
Lazy
Odd-Night
Roaming
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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So, does the detcive get a positive result
On someone who's target was protected?
On someone who was roleblocked?White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
- Jack of All Trades
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- Location: France
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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Okay, so does the rolePMs look good?White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 9043
- Joined: March 25, 2020
- Pronoun: She/Her
- Location: France
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
- Jack of All Trades
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- Posts: 9043
- Joined: March 25, 2020
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- Location: France
Thanks, i hope this will be a good game yes
If you wanna spectate juste tell me i'll give you dead PT access, or i could maybe use a backup moderator if you wanna spare the time to do thisWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 9043
- Joined: March 25, 2020
- Pronoun: She/Her
- Location: France
Oh hey btw sorry for bothering but an endgame scenario crossed my mind
Roleblocker or hider vs mafia, who wins?White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 9043
- Joined: March 25, 2020
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- Location: France
TyWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 9043
- Joined: March 25, 2020
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- Location: France
This thread can be releasedWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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