Micc's Micro Normal Review, October 2020

Isis · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:16 pm

Yeah I agreed with this looking townsided. It's kind of like 2/3rds of a cop plus 1/2 a cop = too much cops. Since the JOAT can sequence things to use the roleblock when one scum is already down it should be a hard investigation a lot of the time.

Isis · Post Post #8 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:25 pm

Town Universal Backup
Town Jack-of-all-Trades (Cop, Doc, RB, Watcher)
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Mafia Jack of all Trades Enabler
Mafia Goon

Would definitely be swingy but swingy is better than imbalanced

Isis · Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:49 pm

I think you get that problem either way with Lazy which was why I deleted that out. Like you have to do Town Lazy Universal Backup and Town Lazy Jack-of-all-Trades to keep from rewarding town for killing their PR, but then the town universal backup can setup spec the lazy JOAT claim to be town pretty easily and that doesn't seem desirable.

Isis · Post Post #12 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:09 pm

What about the opposite of your idea cfj:

Town Macho Townie
Town Jack-of-all-Trades (Cop, Doc, RB)
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

Isis · Post Post #13 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:10 pm

preview edits in normal reviews whew: I didn't know Universal Backups inherited modifiers, thanks.

Isis · Post Post #15 (isolation #5) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:31 pm

I don't really see how it's more modwifom than 1-shot BP since they both make the doctor shot "not work", but you might have better ideas about the normal queue players' attitudes towards macho townies and BPs than I do

Isis · Post Post #17 (isolation #6) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:43 pm

Ohh, that makes sense. So if it's literally the negative utility what about named townie or fruit vendor? or do you think the BP power is actually needed to keep the setup from being scumsided

Isis · Post Post #20 (isolation #7) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:39 am

Lazy Watcher is weaker than JOAT so I think you're free to do something stronger than one-shot BP. Like a Simple Doctor or something.

I think cfj and I both perceived you as being more attached to the JOAT.

Isis · Post Post #21 (isolation #8) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:07 am

oh simple doctor doesn't fix the interaction you were remarking upon where the watcher is easy to use.
Bodyguard does, not sure if that's too weak.

Isis · Post Post #23 (isolation #9) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:05 am

Lazy Watcher + Hider? (not weak hider, hider)

Isis · Post Post #25 (isolation #10) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:08 am

No noise in six days. I -think- it was clear enough that 24 was meant to be treated as a would-pass-counteroffer that should be accepted or declined so we can keep going. Prodding Micc.

Isis · Post Post #27 (isolation #11) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:59 am

Ok. It's in queue right now, let me know if you want to pull it.

Isis · Post Post #28 (isolation #12) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:32 pm

It was six days to the prod, and now it has been four days without an update about your confidence for modding the game. This is a blitz game with no co-mod. If I don't see some involvement from you that greatly changes my confidence in your availability to mod this game in the next 24 hours, I regret I may need to pull your game from the queue as an act of discretion. I hope you can understand that.