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Yeah, we did pretty much the same thing.In post 250, racefan12 wrote:For saucepan, Xalxe first had me guess "pan" (with "pot" as the clue) and then "sauce" (with "marinara" as the clue). Then his next two clues were "combine" "answers"... and I figured out what he was getting at.
Also, if you haven't watched the actual show, you wouldn't have known that synonyms have always been allowed as clues... I assume the rule disallowing words that were "too similar" only referred to clues that were a form of the password itself.
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This is not a good game for this contest, I think. It'd be a lot better as a series of one on ones. It's not very satisfying to have basically no control. I get to go first and then I'll never see the word again? I mean hurrah for not being eliminated until later, but it's not great. And then there are the people who are in zugzwang and know it. Getting eliminated with zero ability isn't great.
Plus I think this is probably the contest most open to cheating. Even inadvertent cheating. If I type "Truck" and my system doesn't underline it in red, I know that's a word..-
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This is a game
If you are not involved in the game or you are not involved in that PORTION of the game, there are places where it's appropriate to post. For example, here in the General Game Discussion. But in games where you are not a participant in some manner you should not post while the game is ongoing in the challenge threads where those challenges are being held.
You would never (I hope) post during the middle of a mafia game if you aren't a player in that game. If you did, you'd likely be banned. The same will hold true here going forward.This is the only warning that will be issued on this matteras I have little tolerance for whatever attention grabbing need would possess you to post in a game you were never a participant in, much less a participant in this individual challenge..-
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I was just trying to be funny, but obviously failed. i only saw one option and it was to form a word everyone knew so it was just as good to get challenged on a symbol as get challenged on an obviously false word. Because the thing about this is that "bluffing" isn't really part of it at all. Because even if I don't know if you're bluffing or not, if I don't know a word that starts with the letters you started with, I'm going to challenge.In post 361, Cheery Dog wrote:I don't understand why people are pulling out symbols either.
I think there's something to do with who they want to start the next word?
But at least use symbols that can actually be used to make words in languages that share characters with English..-
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So now that this is over, I have a few comments for the next time it's run:
1. I thought overall this was a fun way to celebrate Mish Mash.
2. It took way, way too long at times and yet was way, way too quick at others. Six months is too long for this to run. However it's designed in the future, the goal should be no longer than 3 months.
3. I don't know. But there seemed to me to be too many challenges that required people to be on at the same time. I understand that this is more common in mish mash, but in the future I'd try to limit these things.
4. I think certain challenges were too easy to cheat on. Normally, that's not a huge concern for mish mash because why would you sign up for a game of, say, trivia if you were just going to google things? But in the larger context here, much as I suspect it is in Social games, there's an incentive to cheat. If it's easy and undetectable, then there will be a segment of the population who does it. I should be clear that I'm not accusing anyone in particular of cheating here (see undetectable), but rather a comment in general.
5. I don't love the immunity then picking someone for a brawl mechanic. It's too random. Too social gamey. Either make it a social game or not, but if it's meant to celebrate the large number of games played in mish mash, it shouldn't come down to people picking others to challenge.
Anyway, I thought this was a great idea. Like Team Mafia's first iteration, there were some definite bumps, but they're easily excusable as it was fun and served its purpose. Thanks to CC and xofelf for running it!.-
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Well, my problem is that it was laughably EASY to cheat on certain challenges. Colluding with another player to cheat is hard because you have to get someone else willing to admit they want to cheat. Other types of challenges might have elements that outside help would have helped but probably wasn't that big a risk. Like maybe you could cheat on Family Feud or Price is Right, but it's probably kinda hard unless you used sources that were easy to find.4) We were very specific with who we accepted and how challenges were formatted so that should cheating be a thing it would be detectable. There is much more of a unspoken much harder to enforce rule about cheating on challenges than in other parts of the site, that is true. But that isn't to say that there wouldn't have been repercussions for any suspected cheating. There's only so many different ways to prevent things, and we used as many of them as we had available to us.
But then there were others. Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon. If you google that phrase, the FIRST one that pops up is this site which provides the exact breakdown. Countdown. The numbers aren't easy to cheat at, but the WORDS are so simple to cheat at it hurts. Any number of scrabble cheating websites will do it. Chess is a BIT harder to cheat at because it involves finding a chess computer to do so, but it's not very hard. None of these things would be detectable by you.
So my point is that there were a lot of challenges that this WASN'T a problem or it was a minor problem. I just think these are the challenges that should be focused on..-
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For what it's worth, I loved the Bot programming one. That was probably my favorite, though impossible to run at the higher numbers.
Ready Aim Fire was a good one and I think may have been a good venue to incorporate the social survivor aspect without it controlling the overall game.
The amazing race was good, although it felt (as an observer) a tad anti-climatic as a final battle thing.
Jigsong was evil, but some people really liked it.
Blokus worked well, I thought.
Ghost had some of the similar problems as Countdown, but at least there's a lot more strategy to Ghost (similar to scrabble, you can cheat and still lose Ghost to someone who is good). Telephone Pictionary was almost required as a staple of Mish Mash for so long.
Formula Test wasn't really my "thing" but it was kind of fun to work with a team like that..-
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