[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

[Annadog40]

Long Lost Friends

1 A Mafia Goon
1 B Mafia Goon

5 Townies
2 Bulletproof

Each night, both goons decide whether they want to shoot or look for the other goon. Shooting is a normal nightkill. If they choose to look for the other goon, they choose one name to submit to the mod. If the name is the other goon, the two goons are partnered up and receive a private topic they may use during day and night. If the name isn't the other goon, nothing happens.

What is the incentive for a goon to look for another goon?

[Annadog40]

Here is a simple 7 player Micro set up. Is this game balanced?

VT

- 5

1 - shot bulletproof

- 1

Mafia Goon

- 1

[Annadog40]

I don't know about balance, but it sounds...really, really boring to play. Most 7-player setups are imbalanced, but at least associative tells exist.

It's from another forum where they are very newbie when it comes to mafia. I'll adapt and change that one till it is interesting enough for this site.


Here is a mini 11 player game

Amulet of the Beast

Vanilla Town

- 5

Survivor to Beast

- 1

Mafia Goon

- 5


No private chat for goons

Randomly distributed Amulet that controls the beast and they will kill one player if the amulet holder chooses to. The beast can have the amulet if they get it. If the Beast is lynched, then there is no more night.

Vanilla win when all Mafia are dead.
Mafia win when all Vanilla are dead.
Survivor to Beast win if they are alive when either mafia or vanilla reach their win condition.

[Annadog40]

^ What do you mean?

[Annadog40]

single mafia games tend to be unfun - difficult to catch mafia with no associative tells, and mafia have no one to plot and plan with. It removes a lot of the entertaining elements. A balanced 2:5 (which is tough but possible with some mechanics and/or PRs) is more likely to be entertaining for your players.

Ok. I'll edit that game. Thanks for the advice!

[Annadog40]

^ In the second game, scum are uninformed so it is more like town1 vs town2.

As for the first game, it is from a forum that doesn't know how to play mafia. I am in the processes of adding more roles and a second mafia to it. It will have at least two mafia and two VT.

[Annadog40]

I was wondering, would this game be aloud in normal?

Survivor/Rainbow Goo/Lightning rod/Bulletproof – 1
Mafia Goon – 1
Mafia Roleblocker – 2
Town Doctor – 1
Town Tracker – 1
Town Cop – 1
Town Vigilantie – 1
Vanilla Town – 1

If two players are Lightning rods, then they will target the player closes to them on the initial player list. If their is an even amount of space, then it will be randomly chosen.

[Annadog40]

Lightning Rods at least are blacklisted from normal games.
I think rainbow goo probably is as well, and possibly even survivor.

Ok, I'll save that for a non normal game.

[Annadog40]

I was wondering, would this game be aloud in normal?

Survivor/Rainbow Goo/Lightning rod/Bulletproof – 1
Mafia Goon – 1
Mafia Roleblocker – 2
Town Doctor – 1
Town Tracker – 1
Town Cop – 1
Town Vigilantie – 1
Vanilla Town – 1

If two players are Lightning rods, then they will target the player closes to them on the initial player list. If their is an even amount of space, then it will be randomly chosen.

This setup has 3 mafia and a survivor, it only has 9 players. What the fuck.

Is that too many mafia? Cause I can remove a mafia or as a town.

[Annadog40]

My expectation for a 9 player setup would be 7 town and 2 mafia. 5 town, 3 mafia and a survivor is insane. What if they try and lynch the vig day 1? Town loses almost gauranteed.

If they try to lynch vig, the lightning rod will drag them all to the rainbow goo.

I'll remove a mafia RB.

[Annadog40]

Ah, I'm sorry. I was thinking nexus I think. The lightning rod is on constantly? This setup is probably worse now not better because the rainbow goo element will actually happen.

The lightning rod is always on

[Annadog40]

The problem with one jester is that the game can end d1

Jesters don't always end game. I think it's the mime that ends games.

[Annadog40]

Maybe you should give something that the jester does extra so they have more of a point. Like in town of Salem, once a jester is lynched, they can kill one of the people at night who killed them. Or you can do something else to make it harder for the jester and give them more of a point.

[Annadog40]

^ Yes

[Annadog40]

^Since the weak is mainly used for mafia targets, maybe you can make them hated instead?

[Annadog40]

So cult don't know the other cult members? hat insentive to they have to poisoen inread of recruit

[Annadog40]

^ Looks interesting I like it. What is a neapolitan?

[Annadog40]

So the cheerleader can't do anything other than visit the bar?