[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

[West9]

5 Town Tracker/Vigilante

Is this right?

[West9]

Oh, hence the "havoc." Got it.

[West9]

scum can't target each other, I'm assuming.

[West9]

In Kids With Guns, is the IC a "confirm on request" or "confirmed on D1"

[West9]

Can the inventor choose which inventions to gift? or is it random?

[West9]

I was looking through old posts this thread, and came across the "Delphi" game. Thought that the Oracle role in that setup was an interesting idea. So, I came up with this. Don't know if it's interesting or balanced.

Confirmation

9 Players

5 Vanilla Townies
2 Two-Shot Oracles

1 Mafia One-Shot Oracle
1 Mafia One-Shot Roleblocker

• If an Oracle successfully targets a town player at night, that player is confirmed as town the next morning. If they target scum or are roleblocked, no such confirmation occurs.
  
• If more than one Oracle successfully targets a player, all Oracle actions fail, and all attempted Oracle actions use up a shot.
  
• Mafia can perform a power role action and kill at the same time.
  
• The Mafia Oracle can't investigate their partner or same person that the mafia kills.

[West9]

I wouldn't be opposed to making it a full roleblocker

I think the problem with 4 is that the mafia oracle is effectively a one-shot mass roleblocker if they can target someone who's already gonna die or their scumbuddy. If they target scumbuddy, then no confirmation occurs, and any other oracle action which occurs will cause all of them to end in no confirmation. Same with if they target a dead player (it would create a useless confirmation, or no confirmation)

If Mafia's gonna try to fuck up oracle shots using the oracle, they should have to risk confirming a town.

[West9]

Confirmation seems pretty damned broken imo. You could have two confirmed towns day 2, and four confirmed towns day 3. Ridic.

hoooooowww? There can only ever be one successful confirmation per night.

[West9]

I'm talking about my setup

[West9]

Okay...gonna have to switch up some roles then. Also, the mafia oracle doesn't really make sense now.

[West9]

Confirmation v2

9 Players

4 Vanilla Townies
2 Oracles
1 Ascetic Townie

1 Mafia Goon
1 Mafia Roleblocker

• If an Oracle successfully targets a town player at night, that player is confirmed as town the next morning. If they target scum, the ascetic townie, or are roleblocked, no such confirmation occurs.
  
• If more than one Oracle successfully targets the same player, all Oracle actions fail.
  
• Mafia can perform a power role action and kill at the same time.

Question: Should confirmations just be alignment, or should role be revealed as well? This only matters in the case of Oracles targeting each other.

[West9]

Confirmation v2

9 Players

4 Vanilla Townies
2 Oracles
1 Ascetic Townie

1 Mafia Goon
1 Mafia Roleblocker

• If an Oracle successfully targets a town player at night, that player is confirmed as town the next morning. If they target scum, the ascetic townie, or are roleblocked, no such confirmation occurs.
  
• If more than one Oracle successfully targets the same player, all Oracle actions fail.
  
• Mafia can perform a power role action and kill at the same time.

Question: Should confirmations just be alignment, or should role be revealed as well? This only matters in the case of Oracles targeting each other.

bump

[West9]

How'd you deal with ties in that scenario?

[West9]

Also, I'd hate to be scum so much in that scenario. They should have some sort of influence on the ranking system.