[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

[yessiree]

Hi all, is Arsonist considered Normal?

[yessiree]

alright, thanks

[yessiree]

so a 13p game with one arsonist as the only neutral killing role would be considered Normal variant?

[yessiree]

can you demonstrate a set of events that leads to a scum win? I'm not seeing a way...

I derped, this is actually a pretty tight setup

[yessiree]

I just had to get this idea out there...

Friend or Foe

==== Town ====
Town Neighborizer
VT x9
==== Mafia ====
Mafia Neighborizer
Goon x2

- Mafia members don't know the identities of other mafia members.
- Mafia has one factional night kill per night.
- Each mafia member can choose to submit a night kill target to the mod or to take no action.
- The factional night kill will resolve to the player targeted the most, or targeted by the most recent pm in the case of a tie.

[yessiree]

Town's nowhere near powerful enough for a 10:3, and the fact that scum don't know each others' identities makes scumhunting basically impossible; there's no way to draw associatives. I'm inclined to call this "not Mafia". (Besides, a decent proportion of the value in a town Neighbourizer is in neighbourizing scum and figuring out who their buddies are via seeing how they react to various suggestions of yours.)

I don't think drawing associatives is the only way to scumhunt though. It's true you can't draw associations between scums, but at the same time, that lack of coordination makes it that much more difficult in achieving a mislynch.

[yessiree]

Neither Neighborizer should really actually use their ability because they are 50/50 scum, and the person neighborized should just claim the neighborizer.

Then i guess it turns into a mountainous with an uninformed scum team?