[SETUP] Soulmates (bastard), inspired by Mini Love

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Mini Love: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mini_Love

So I really wanted to host this game, because it sounded fun. Unfortunately it seems to have some problems. So I decided to "fix" it, and this is what happened. Warning for bastard roles and wincons.

2

Mafia Goons

1

Mafia Lover

2

Unaligned Lovers

1

Town Lover

1

Doctor

8

Vanilla Townies

That's 15 players which no longer makes it a mini but. Details.

Unaligned Lovers

have no alignment of their own, but share their lover's wincon. As such, they are never paired with each other. One is guaranteed to be paired with a

Town Lover

, and one is guaranteed to be paired with a

Mafia Lover

.

Unaligned Lovers

do not know their lover's alignment. An

Unaligned Lover

paired with a

Mafia Lover

counts as

mafia

towards the

mafia's

parity wincon. Lovers' only method of communication is the main game thread.

This does change the game from "is my lover mafia? " to "whatever my partner's alignment, we'll get through this together," which does kind of make this an entirely different game, but that's okay.

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At risk of ruining balance, would decreasing the number of townies sufficiently discourage the town lover from claiming?
Replace Mafia Goon with 1-Shot Mafia Dayvig?

Trying very hard not to make this too unelegant ><

Also thank you very much for the input, I wouldn't have found that issue on my own.

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I guess "if the bashful town lover claims it instantly dies" is sweet and simple. That's the bashful part right? And is conditional, in this case, mean that the exception to being a lover is the scum dayvig being able to sever the lover connection?

For the "silent" part, I've heard and expect that being silenced is not to play, much less to be silent as an inherent part of the role, so I'm curious what that part's about? And is the conditional bashful town lover *and* their partner silent? Leaving the Mafia lover+partner able to speak? Or are all lovers silent?

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Maybe I'd have to just see how a game plays out then, as far as player decisions go?

I did want to have a smaller size game but wasn't sure I could get away with it.
Okay, so. 1 goon, 1 mafia lover, 2 unassigned lovers, 1 town lover, 5 vt.
Essentially 3:7, or 2.33:6.33 with lovers counted as 2/3 a player.

In that case, would making it nightless help with balance or just make it boring? Guaranteed mafia daytalk implied.
I did find some guide that talked about nightless setups a while ago and I can't find it for the life of me.

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Woops didn't mean to exclude the doctor.
Macho modifier makes a lot of sense there, that's brilliant. I think I'll try it as a deterrent.

I thought maybe it would qualify for bastard with there being technically hidden alignments, so I erred on the side of caution. Good to know.

As long as voting isn't by plurality, the unassigned-mafia pair can't screw up parity-including-the-unassigned-lover without going against their wincon, which means that unassigned lover for all intents and purposes does count towards parity, is what I'm thinking- is that right?

Thank you so much for helping me with this