[REVIEW] Open Setup Reviews

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This is semi-open.

I am really bad in naming things, if you have a name suggestion, I am all ears

8 player:

3 Regretful Disarmingly Bulletproof Mafia Goons

// disarmingly bulletproof = if attacked, doesn't die and attacker permanently loses all killing abilities

3 Vanilla Townies

Plus either:
a)

2 Town Lovers

b)

Vanilla Townie
1-shot Weak Visitor

c)

Vanilla Townie
Hated Disarming Bulletproof Townie

• Daystart
  
• Scum doesn't know each other
  
• Each scum can make killing action every night
  a) if he targets town, both die
  b) if he targets scum or bulletproof townie, attacker loses his active ability and is noticed about it
  c) if more than one scum targets one target, all but one are roleblocked (random, roleblocked scums will not die nor lose their ability)
  d) if all living scum should die because of their night action, random scum is roleblocked
  
• Town must lynch. In ties who had their final vote cast first gets lynched.
  
• Town lovers have private day and night chat. If one of them is lynched, they both die. If Lover or Attacked Lover is attacked by scum, he becomes Attacked Lover (he isn't aware of it, attacking scum will be noticed and doesn't die nor loses his ability) and doesn't die.
  
• If scum attacks Lover while other Lover is already an Attacked Lover, both Lovers and attacking scum die. If both Lovers haven't been attacked before and are attacked at the same night, both Lovers die and one random scum which attacked them dies.
  
• In case of 1v1 all dead players decide who gets lynched.

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I knew I would forget something.
Wincon:
town: lynch all scum.
Scum: >50% of living players are scum.

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It's possible to rename some roles. SKs who win together?

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Mafia should attack revealed townie every night, making the reveal not very powerful.
After one mislynch, if town fails to build highiest wagon on mafia before midday, they lose.

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Assume there are 2 wagons and it's before midday, leading wagon is on town.
Scummiest/ random scum should vote random person right before the deadline, even if that makes him lynched the next day, right?
4v11 might be a more interesting setup.

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What are the hypothetical win rates if all lynches were random?
I think that town wins in C(7,4)*[C(3,0)+C(3,1)]=140 cases.
And scum in [C(7,0)+C(7,1)+C(7,2)+C(7,3)]*C(3,2)=192 cases.
Did I get it right?
If yes, with 8 town, it's:
C(8,4)*[C(3,0)+C(3,1)]=280 cases.
[C(8,0)+C(8,1)+C(8,2)+C(8,3)]*C(3,2)=279 cases.
Which seems more balanced.

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I am pretty sure that there is a way how can town mech win if they wouldn't lynch.

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D1 put people randomly on L-1.
Donnie Brasco selfhammers and says who is scum.
The game turns into mafia random vigshooting each other.

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I think that every mafia doesn't know who is mafia? Just knows that persons a, b, c are mafia/DB.

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If I lose both artefacts, can I vote/ kill?
Jailkeeper targets both artefacts of a player?
Mafia destroying is public?

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Mod might require PM for the bomb attack to work.

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Protect the VIP

9 Players (2 Mafia, 7 Townies)

2

Mafia Goon

1

Town Tracker

1

Town Bodyguard

1

Town Flagbearer

(every town knows his identity, no mafia knows his identity)
4

Vanilla Town

Town wins when all mafia players have been killed.
Mafia wins when reached parity or

Town Flagbearer

have been killed.
No daytalk.

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1	Roleblocker	Doctor	1-shot Publishing Cop
4	Conditional Publishing Tracker	non-consecutive Loyal Fruit Vendor	Cop
6	1-shot Cupid	Redirector	1-shot Vigi

10 VTs and 3 mafia Goons, daystart. Dead players can't post to the game, but dead town players are given a special PT.
When 1 VT dies, dead town players receive one of the roles in the 1st row (randomly). If there are more dead players, they decide by plurality vote on whom the role will be used. This role is permanent (they can use it every night, unless 1-shot).
When 4 VTs die, dead town players receive one of the roles in the 2nd row. They can use their 1st and 2nd role at the same night.
When 6 VTs die, dead town players receive on of the roles in the 3rd row.

Role received is never from the same column (Doctor, Cop, 1-shot Cupid is possible, doctor, cop, Redirector isn't).
Only dead players know which roles

are

chosen. Nobody knows which roles

will

be chosen.

Roles explained:
Cupid- choose 2 players who become lovers - they receive PT and if one dies, both die.
Redirector - redirects kill on target to a random living town player.
Publishing Cop - cop, but target and result is revealed to everyone (including living players).
Conditional Publishing Tracker - tracker, but will receive a result only if your target visited anyone. If receives a result, the result is revealed to everyone.

Edit: changed the board for one I find more balanced.
Edit2: public is now publishing

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While using the cop ability from 2nd row, only dead players receive the result.
They can use that information to use other roles, for example - roleblock guilty result.

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The setup is chosen randomly.
Town can't influence which roles they get.

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Yes. All town dead players share the same PT. I guess I can even allow few spectators to join that PT and vote for actions too.
However, the only way how can dead people "communicate" with living players is via actions.

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I reflected a little bit about the setup and changed it a bit. Now a believe that all possibilities have similar EV. I struggle to prove that at least one of the possible setups has EV around 50%.

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I am not sure you understand the setup.
Games starts with 10 VTs and 3 goons. Only dead town players (as a collective) receive roles. Either town wins or there will be a point in the game where at least 6VTs are dead.