I know Drixx better than anyone here, and I don't get this, so you should probably explain it. :/In post 2504, Titus wrote:I think most who know Drixx would get the reasoning.
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Why the hell would there be cause to waste time giving special baneed titles to individuals should aren't on the site?
If someone is banned in one part of the site, and not another, what would be the point of giving them this title? What does it accomplish? And is that goal worthwhile?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Mhm.In post 2771, Cheetory6 wrote:What I wouldn't give for the privilege of being able to be banned so that I could have a title on a site that I'm not able to use anymoreGTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Seems against. Cheetory6 isn't dumb, so, gonna assume he's not supporting the stupid suggestion.In post 2775, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Is this for or against the motion of the ubiquitous titling of banned players with a title to indicate their bannednessIn post 2771, Cheetory6 wrote:What I wouldn't give for the privilege of being able to be banned so that I could have a title on a site that I'm not able to use anymoreGTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Seconded.
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Maybe you should be more memorable in some way?In post 2937, vonflare wrote:I see all these 2016ers getting titles and I'm like "eh, whatever" but I swear ifelbringets a title before me I'm quitting the siteGTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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You know, I didn't even think about that when I made my comment. That makes it way better.In post 2947, vonflare wrote:In post 2946, Cerberus v666 wrote:
Maybe you should be more memorable in some way?In post 2937, vonflare wrote:I see all these 2016ers getting titles and I'm like "eh, whatever" but I swear ifelbringets a title before me I'm quitting the site
Didn't get a real title out of the moment though, so, that's not REALLY what I'm talking about.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Anti-nom. :p
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One could argue it does make sense, but its rather limited in provenance. In any case, naw, joke as ginngie said.
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I have no idea what this doot thing is, but it sounds stupid.
So, I don't actually want a title, but I wanna hear some title ideas. So. People who know me should like, message me title ideas so I can chuckle about them.
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I approve of both equally, for what it's worth....but feel the blank banner is superior because it's less obvious...and isn't recognizing people through things outsiders wouldn't easily understand the whole point of this title thing?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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My biased opinion is that this is a good idea.In post 5483, vonflare wrote:Just a thought - past scummies winners should get the award as their title, but only the current year would get thebanner
e.g. all past winners of kodak moment get 'Kodak Moment' as their title (unless they already have a unique title), but only mastina gets the banner AND the titleGTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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The obvious negative of that is the multiple award winners. It could get messy.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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These are valid cons. The work thing doesn't seem too bad, but most people don't have an actual idea of how much work it would be, nor would they be doing it.In post 5488, Psyche wrote:Here are some cons you should understand, though. This would be a bit of work (get list of past scummy winners, filter out those who already have titles, create unique titles for the remainder, assign them to the people on this list, repeat every year for expired winners), and easy to do wrong or in a way that's just cluttered. Furthermore, it could overshadow the current titling tradition and/or the titles of people who got their titles the traditional way.
The fear of overshadowing the currently titled is a big thing though. I don't think it would necessarily "overshadow" those titles, because those are each unique, while these other ones are only differentiated by the year of the award, BUT with multiple awards, the sheer bulk of text could make it more notable.
So the question becomes: Is someone who wins 5 scummies but doesn't have a current title, someone who should be more "unique" than someone who's been titled by the community?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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It's sort of an accomplishments versus legacy question. Scummies being accomplishments, and titles being representative of the legacy and memories others have of you.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Yeah.In post 5517, vonflare wrote:
that makes the person seem pretentious. I think it's much better if it's a title.In post 5516, Davsto wrote:if you wanna celebrate a scummy win from x years ago just put it in your sig or something
I do think that it does seem unlikely that someone performs well repeatedly, well enough to have multiple scummies, without actually getting a title from that recognition. There are exceptions, but I think those exceptions are deserving of being notable and obvious in a way they currently aren't, simply by virtue of having done things which the community probably SHOULD have titled them for.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Kinda like when the Oscars gives someone a lifetime achievement award, or an award for a sub par performance after snubbing them for a great one.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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SHH.In post 5522, vonflare wrote:ok, so, finished.
but first, an important note. Through my title checking, I discovered that 2 accounts, Malakittens andThe Cool Cucumbers, still have their banners from when they won their scummies even though their year has ended.
Now, on to the title suggestions:
Spoiler: TITLE SUGGESTIONS
For scummers that would recieve multiple titles in this, I only included the one that was awarded in the earliest year.
Some awards changed names through the years. I used the name of the award in the year it was given for the titles, EXCEPT for 'rookie of the year' which might be too long for a title with the date added so I changed in 2008 and 2009 to the more recent 'Best Newbie'
many notable players would receive titles, including drench, guyinfreezer, N, deathnote, t-bone, and many many others.
Most scummy winners already had titles, I went through at least twice the number of profiles that I have names in that list.
The only person to win multiple scummies in the same year that also does not have a title is plotinus. I tried to combine the scummies into "Rising White Knight" but shrug
I included scummers that have a banner currently and would receive one once their banner expires, with a note beside the title.
Wgeurts and I will never use that account again probably! Let it banner forever!
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Also, was the cool cucumbers the only hydra account on that list there? That's probably why it still has the banner, they took it off our mains.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Yes. This certainly deserves a topic elsewhere as well. I'm not sure where would be best though. *shrug* It's a high visibility sort of change. Technically, the decision would be entirely the purview of the Title Fairy, but input from those who *don't* check out this thread would surely be worthwhile.In post 5524, vonflare wrote:should I crosspost this into some sort of scummies thread as well?
pedit: lol
pedit: Lol, so silly. Your list should probably specify the hydra heads though, since it's not a proper list of who this change would have an effect on otherwise.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Ohh. Sorry. I always sign every post I make in my hydrae, so I never bothered with listing membership in my hydra sigs.In post 5529, vonflare wrote:
it does actually! for the hydras I could find the heads for, anyway (ploteh kittens). Cucumber didn't have its heads in its sig.In post 5528, Cerberus v666 wrote: Your list should probably specify the hydra heads thoughGTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Yeah. :-/ I don't know, I'm not a big "member of the community" generally speaking, so I don't know where people talk.
The list might take a bit more work, because I know wgeurts at least has like 2 more scummies. One for the kodak moment, and one for best mechanic or game or something one year, iirc. For Evolution mafia i believe? I might be misremembering.
Still a pretty short list of people who aren't already titled and have multiple scummies.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Ohhh.In post 5533, vonflare wrote:for people with multiple scummies I only included the earliest one they received, since I figure that "Kodak Moment 2012" is more prestigious than "Kodak Moment 2015" for example.
And on the length of the list, you're right that it's a pretty short list considering how long the scummies have been going on.
My bad. You did specifically say that. Dunno if I like that or not. It's a solution, but kinda only if they won the same scummy in multiple years. If it's multiple different scummies, something else seems like it would make more sense, but I don't have an elegant solution in mind.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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(I think we should keep track of the scummy history of the people in opposition and support of this, because I think the people supporting it theoretically benefit from the idea.)
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Oh, and the people opposing already have titles. So they would *never* benefit from this.In post 5541, vonflare wrote:I don't benefit at all and I'm the one doing all the work!
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Okay, not all of them. Anyways. You get my point. It would be an interesting thing to look at. I'm going to leave this thread alone now because I've said more than my fair share already.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Seems kinda ridiculous to suggest that the individual whose job is to, functionally, moderate a community bestowed perk, ignore the community.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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It's meh.
Even knowing the context.
Mainly because literally taking the name is uninspired.
I like the idea. I don't like the execution.
Someone more creative than I should come up with a cleverer option.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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This is, btw, what should be used as the inspiration for chickadees title. Absolutely the most iconic things about her.In post 5620, vonflare wrote:"seriously killer" doesn't say chickadee to me at all. It gives the impression of like, serious and suave with that title while chick is more quirky and funny.
maybe something to do with her face always being her avatar combined with her drawingbones/dead stuff?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Yeah.In post 5780, animorpherv1 wrote:Explain to me why your mistake needs to be fixed by us becsuse that's also dumb and make no sense. It's your god damn mistake you fox it
Does it really matter if they get more noms etc then, Psyche? If you fundamentally disagree with the title? What does getting it renommed blah blah actually accomplish?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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So....what is the mistake you made then? I'm not actually familiar with this situation at all, I just don't understand what differentiates this title from others, such that it requires an additional step.In post 5781, Psyche wrote:my mistake was letting the title get as far through as it did, and i'm fixing it right now by putting my foot down. this isn't a negotiation, sorry. i've made my decision.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Hell, I don't even know who Haschel is...it just seems to be a rather nonsensical decision, given my limited information.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Really? You give someone 24 hours to gather noms for a title, and then you BAN the person who originally nommed the title for 3 days, thereby ensuring that they won't be able to nom the title again?In post 5790, Psyche wrote:I would not take away a bad title that went through. Titles that I have concerns about will always have more trouble getting through, and that's how it's always been.
And ani's been banned from the thread for 3 days for breaking the civility rule. Arguing with something I've cemented a decision about or calling me retarded is not going to get titles you like implemented. Bolded noms and nths will.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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I think the point is that you're ignoring a human factor here.
Even if the title was TERRIBLE(which it may be, I don't know Haschel) the sheer injustice of the way you've chosen to handle this means that people who would otherwise not care or be opposed, will be inclined to support it...thereby negating the entire arbitrary process you've put in place for this particular title.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Yep, this is a good resolution. Really, you should give him the title *now*, and if something better comes up and he likes the better suggestion, you just change it to that one, but this is a good compromise, and slightly diminishes my outrage.In post 5823, Psyche wrote:In fact, now that I think of it, I’ll do one better. If the community doesn’t come up with a better title for Hash this week, I’ll give him what I said I would. I have no backbone, and that’s what I should’ve said in the first place.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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People are mad about how Psyche is handling things now, not that he forgot about it a year ago. That's a simple, reasonable oversight.In post 5839, SleepyKrew wrote:why did it take a full year for people to get mad about this
Refusing to do what he said he'd do when the oversight was brought to his attention is unacceptable, and that's what upsets people.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Stood up for himself? No. He accidentally failed to perform the *only* duty he has, and then doubled down on the mistake, rather than just doing what he should have done on the first place.In post 5841, Kublai Khan wrote:Psyche stood up for himself and the public quickly let him know that they loved his spinelessness more than they liked his opinions.
He only stood up for himself if not putting the title in place was a deliberate choice he made back then...in which case he lied to everyone then, and is continuing to lie now.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Kk. You're wrong. He explicitly said the title would be applied back then. From that point, his job was to give the title to the individual. He did not do that.
As I said, unless he MEANT to not give the title, and it was a deliberate choice to exercise his judgment, you're really fucking wrong right now. And in the event that you're right, Psyche really fucked up by lying to every one about the decision he had made.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Not so much. Bitching in thread to increase awareness of shitty behaviors by people who have been given power is a good way to get support for further action, in the event that Psyche decides that this is the way he wants to act in the future, and a pm to the individuals you named becomes a good option.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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I actually like Psyche. I disagree with one thing he did, he corrected it, we're good.
KK, however, is attempting to defend an indefensible position. None of my exchange with him is meant to reflect on Psyche, except insofar as Psyche has the misfortune of having KK as a defender.
I agree that we've all made our points at this point. I'llNthwhatever the best option is that arises, on principle.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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So, I agree with this, but I also think that Varsoon *likes* his current title.In post 6050, Aristophanes wrote:Also, I think we need to retitle Varsoon! Scatman is nice but like, his Large setups have come to define him and I think it goes beyond a banner in the scummies! He is extremely good at creating fun, complex, beautiful setups that people flock to and nominate every year! He really deserves recognition for it!
I had thought ofLargely Complexbut Iunno, we should be able to do better! Maybe somethong that also references the fact that, like his avatar, his setups appear one way until you know what you are looking at, and then they morph into something so much more complex yet seamless and really are a thing of beauty.
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So...In post 6107, mastina wrote:
The title more or less originated from him throwing shit as a player, so this is close to the truth, yes.In post 6105, Not_Mafia wrote:Maybe he's a piece of shit
Something that has to do with monkeys, because they're known for doing that same thing.
And modding/creating complex large games.
There. Inspiration. Someone creative make something up.
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