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Orca? This! is! Dance of the Title Fairy!
Thok is the current Title Fairy and is the sole judge on who gets a title and what it shall be. See the wiki for Title Fairy policy.
You may make suggestions for titles for people other than yourself here. I will be keeping a list of approved titles in the first post, as an easy reference for admins to update periodically.
I will ignore any request for a title for a person with less than 100 posts. Titles in general should be mafia related.
If you are thinking about suggesting a title based on an ongoing mafia game, please wait until the game is over. If it's a good title, it will still be good a few months later.
In general having three or more people show support for a title is sufficient for me to consider it. A post whose only purpose is to fifth or higher a title will be deleted. (Posts that continue discussion of the title, by either suggesting possible tweaks, or giving further reasons for the title will not be deleted.)
Previous versions of this thread can be found here and here and here.
Approved Titles-Jeep can update these.
farside-Mafia Mum
QUEUED (Add new ones above this. I'll be updating and deleting these soon.)
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Maybe " Getting lots of action" for CKD?
Guardian ought to have a title by now, as he's done enough crazy things. Both "Still here, still /out" [referencing the two Screw the Players games in Mish-Mash] or "Two scum with one post" [referencing Guardian's replacement into Mountainous Multiball] could work.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Perhaps
Drunken Piper
Poetry Typer
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My feeling is that if Yos2's title is changed, it should be changed to "Agree with me" or "Agree with (shrug)"
Could I get an explanation for "Furry" for Mizzy (preferably something mafia related)?
So win>Elvis Impersonator
Titles I think are good
Dead Rikimaru-Full of Flavor
Sarcastro-More like SarcastPOPE
Ether-Lyrical Rampage (although part of me wants to do a KOL reference and call her an Accordion Thief.)
NabakovNabakov-My lovely lovely Lalita (yes, no self-nom's, but everybody want a reference similar to this)I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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My title isn't simply "Thok is bad at being an SK" (in fact I'm 0-2-1 as an SK, with a draw in Muppets, a loss in a Minvational where I was NK night 1, and the game where my title comes from, which is a reasonable standard for success for most SK's), but rather recognizing a particularly memorable event, that among other things won CA a scummy.JDodge wrote:how many games as SK do you have to merit your title, anyways? surely you must be at least 0-50 for a title to be based on whether or not you're a disgrace to SKs
If Elias didn't keep track of his stats in his sig, would we be having this discussion at all? That's my standard for being significant.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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If we assume scum winning percentage is 50%, there's about a 1/200 chance of having a scum record of 10-1 or 11-0 in their games (and really, since we'd have this discussion but backwards if the records were flipped, I should include the possibility of 1-10 or 0-11 and make is about 1/100.) That's good but we have a lot of people on this site, and I wouldn't be shocked if a person randomly was 10-1 or 11-0 or even better.
There's also the question of whether Elias's is actually good, or getting somewhat lucky. (Probably the answer is a combination of both.)
You'll have better luck finding some particularly cool scum gambit that Elias pulled off and basing a title off of that. It would likely give a more interesting title also.
I can't help it if people fail basic statistics.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Have you even bothered collecting data for this? 50% is a good approximation.Thestatusquo wrote:Scum win % is almost NEVER 50%. Are you purposefully being obtuse?
Just for the record, 5 of those games are as an IC in Newbies in the C9 era, where I'd expect an IC scum to have something like a 80% winning percentage (so Elias was 5 for 5 as opposed to 4 for 5. Big deal.)I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Except that Elias only plays Mini's, where we're typically talking one mafia group, or one mafia group and an SK.Thestatusquo wrote:No, because given that the balancing meta is that town have a 50% chance of winning weighted against ALL other factions, instead of each given faction having a equal win probability means that the actual probability of a given scum group winning is MUCH lower than 50%. In addition, each scum screw up is bigger than each town mistake, therefore it is harder to win as scum, and therefore the % is even lower. You're just being dumb now.
Of all the times Elias has been mafia, he's had to deal with multiple scum groups twice: Mini 365, (which he lost) had an SK, and Mini 417 had a 6-3-3 distribution. So Elias probably only had a 35-40% chance of winning as opposed to a 50% chance of winning.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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The bolded test is why statistical significance is necessary. We're trying to quantify if Elias's win percentage is really "insanely high". If it's not, then the title will seem silly when Elias has a cold streak as scum/hot streak as town.Thestatusquo wrote:Anyway, thok, I have NEVER seen a title have a threshold of "statistically significant" set for it before. If you're really going to be that big of a stickler, then half the titles on the site would be gone. Hewins an insanely high amount as scum, and a normal amount as town, and has done so for a long time. THAT is title worthy. YOU are being a douchebag.
I'm going to stop commenting about this until people actually suggest a title.
Edit: Actually, something like "TSQ says you're good scum" might work for Elias and works on enough levels that I wouldn't complain about it.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Nominated Kison for "Got Power Role?"
A sample explanation from Pirates v. Ninjas
Kison wrote:I have for some time now complained that I am cursed with either scum roles or vanilla townie roles(or close to vanilla). There was a 1 in 26 chance I got that one vanilla role. I think we call can agree that I am, in fact,fucking cursed.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Personally, I think including the Townie part makes it easier for newcomers to get. But if people prefer removing the Townie, I'll change it.PokerFace wrote:Kisonsould just be"Cursed". You don't really need the townie part too much considering popular opinion.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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I sort of ignored it, since it seemed like only a couple people were in favor of it. Are there references to the various self-voting? (I assume UA isn't as frequent a self-vote as Lloyd.)Mastermind of Sin wrote:I think UA's wasSelf-Voter Extraordinaire. He didn't refuse it though, so I don't know what happened to it.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Um, there was a period of time he literally self-voted in every game. That would have been about a year back or so.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Lloyd? Since when does Lloyd self-vote? We must hang out in different circles. With the exception of, I believe, exactly one game, UA constantly self-votes to open every game he plays, including scumchat games.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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17 is more then 11.Thestatusquo wrote:I'm not sure 17 games is statistically significant. O.o
Assuming a 75% chance to be protown (which is probably high), the relevant probability is .7517, which is about 7/1000. Make it 66% chance to be protown, and you get about 1/1000.
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Not that significant (it occurs for about 1 out of 50 people),Mr Stoofer wrote:I've played 11 Newbie games and been pro-Town in every one. Probability = (5/7)11. Is that statistically significant? More importantly, is it of the slightest interest to anyone?
I'm amused that people actually feel that complaining about mathematical calculations being boring has any useful value. (Possibly it's a need to mock me about a part of my personality that I've already accepted even though it may not make me popular, which is even funnier IMHO.)I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Unclear. Plus, in my opinion a good title isn't just about numbers. There's also humor/appropriateness. (The first part is about making people laugh when they see it, the second is if a title is honoring something that people actually care about with respect to that person.)Adel wrote:what is the threashold for significance? 1/500? 1/250I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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I'm not interested in having my title changed. I'm actively against having my title changed to that.Thestatusquo wrote:Nominate thok for "Disgrace to Jews everywhere."
I personally don't get why people want to change MOS's title every three months or so. I'll bug MOS about it, although I think his post 330 makes his feelings about the new title suggestions clear.
Added Rishi's title to the list
Nominate K-Scope for "Math is boring"
The following seem like good ideas but I personally think they could use more discussion
Claus-Making a list
Sarcastro-More like SarcastPOPE
Guardian-Cross Killah
Lawrencelot-Mafia Scuum
I'm not personally a fan of Self-Stoofer for Mr. Stoofer. Maybe something about how his mafia games always seem to have some sort of twist?I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Wait until the game is over. If it's that funny, it will still be funny when the game is over.Alabaska J wrote:Hey something very funny happened in an ongoing game that will almost certainly end up in a tag for Haschel Cedricson. What are the rules for showing what happened b/c it's ongoing? Can I post a link to the thread?
Also, Quag's title is approved.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Front page updated appropriately.Quagmire in a PM to me wrote:since i can't post, i am PMing you to let you know that i don't want my title at all. shadowlurker and shea both misquoted me. i don't want a title at all.
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ABR has said he's not interested in having his title changed. So it's staying as it is.Pie_is_good wrote:Who's ABR bashing? I find this all rather endearing.
Creepo #2 is acceptable if and only if we alsochange MoS's title to "Creepo"(let's call that a nomination).
MOS has repeatedly denied interest in having his title changed also.
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I'm pondering doing the sanitized version of yours (which would be Laming Airy.) You may like/approve Ucking Aggot, but others may have serious problems with it.ZONEACE wrote:could i get some sort of acceptence or veto on mine?
(Also, personally I think your current title has a better joke, even if it doesn't have anything to do with your sexuality. I do realize that to some extent the joke is out of date.)
I'd like to hear an explanation for dahill's. Xdaamo's seems poor to me, as it doesn't implicitly distinguish him from the multitude of people who post /in for games on the forum each day.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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It's only censored for people who are clueless.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Ucking Aggot is clearly censored, so there shouldn't be any problem using it.
It seems to me like a title that just asking for Zoneace 2.0 to show up as a newbie, look at the title, think Zoneace is a homophobe and start getting violent with him. Maybe I'm wrong.
dahill's is rejected unless it starts showing up on Mafia Scum: in my opinion scumchat jokes aren't good titles. (See Zoneace's reaction to the comment, for example.) Use this as an excuse to bagel dahill in mafia games.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Because nobody can agree on a good format for the joke? This topic has been brought up about 20 times, and nobody agrees on a good version of the title, not even Yosarian2.Pie_is_good wrote:Out of curiosity, why the hell does Yos's title have nothing to do with people agreeing with him?
That's, like, the biggest in-site meme ever.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Bolding mine.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Words like Sh*t, F*ck, C*nt, *ss, and C*ck are all only censored for clueless people, too, yet the more...sensitive members of this community seem to generally think it's an appropriate measure of censorship.Why should this be any different?
a. I'd like to see evidence that they think this is an acceptable measure of censorship.
b. Are they using these versions commonly, or just in threads where they are discussing profanity and need to come up with some version of the word so that people know what they are talking about? Context matters.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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I don't know who removed the posts from last night, but I know for certain it wasn't me. I'm sure the relevant party will back me up on this.pickemgenius wrote:it should be noted I said something completely awesome in this thread last night, so much so that Thok himself was ashamed of its truth, and therefore deleted all the posts related to that subject.
(Among other things, my innuendoish posts was deleted. I'm pretty sure I went to sleep fairly soon after my post [which was at 1 in the morning West Coast time], and never even saw whatever PEG considered to be a clever response. I'm fairly clear all PEG did was miss the point of my post in the first place.)I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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I assume it's either Mith or Stoofer, and they erased the posts for containing a high level of profanity and offensiveness. I'm sure the relevant person will admit to it if it is an issue.pickemgenius wrote:
Who else would delete the posts...Thok wrote:So, PEG's demonstrated a complete inability to read. Great.
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Why are you assuming that I don't know when I put up my post and what the contents of my post are? I know that it got deleted while I was asleep and was potentially really offensive. It doesn't take a genius to deduce what sort of reply PEG's post would have been, and given that I never saw the post but know it was in response to my post, and I know when my post was made and deleted, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what time period it would have been posted if it was posted.JDodge wrote:How do you know what time these posts were put up to thus know that you were asleep at the time if you had nothing to do with them?
How do you know the content of the post that you supposedly never saw?
Protip: I generally never deleted/move stuff without actually saying that I've deleted or moved stuff. (I think I even made a post in the old Title Fairy thread discussing when I deleted SL's thread about making a new title fairy thread: if not, that's the only exception I can think of.) Believe it or not, I tend to leave a trail of accountability for myself.
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Look, a post that proves you don't know what you are talking about.ShadowLurker wrote:No, you told me over AIM that you would like full dictatorial control over the Title Fairy thread or something.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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No, you see we're actually setting the title to Mafia Scum, as opposed to the default. That means if they get over the SUPER-SEKRET number of posts that would normally get the fourth level of titles, their title won't change.hasdgfas wrote:
actually, they should getAlabaska J wrote:nominate all self-nominators forMafia ScumScuminstead, just to punish those who actually do self-nom.
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100 posts=100 posts in mafia games. This dates back to the days of bigbenbw[/teach]Pie_is_good wrote:I assumed "100 posts" really meant 100 posts; not just 100 game posts, and also that you had a sense of humor.
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Fixed that for you.Pie_is_good wrote:I think the best title for Natirasha would be "Bible Thumper"
Icould beam certainly wrong, though.
Remember back in the day when people wanted to give hasdgfas a title about his repressing homosexual thoughts? Remember how much worse those titles would have been than "Moo"?I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Pokerface's title has been added to the first post.
I like either of the non-WIFOM choices for shaft.ed, if there's agreement on which one.
The one suggested for Hasdgfas is cleverer than the typical title suggestion. This is an acknowledgment that the suggestion exists.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Guardian wrote:Is there a specific reason that Cross Killah doesn't work for me, Thok? It was not the first notion of me being nominated for a title that I remember, but was by far the most hilarious and memorable for me. I was nominated and thirded... and generally don't get why it has been ignored.
(shrug).Adel wrote:I hate that for Guardian... he is so much more than that. It bugs me to no end that I can't think of a better title for him.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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