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All thanks to probability theory, which I understood really well.
Gambler's fallacy, but nice try
You were scum in our last game. Therefore you are more likely to be town now. Tell me whether I am right about you. If that is the case, then I am more likely to be right about Ranger as well.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
All thanks to probability theory, which I understood really well.
Gambler's fallacy, but nice try
You were scum in our last game. Therefore you are more likely to be town now. Tell me whether I am right about you. If that is the case, then I am more likely to be right about Ranger as well.
For a different reason, but yes.
Being town myself, I take a spot out of the pool, increasing the chances of a Ranger-scum-draw. However, the chance of being a role in any game is not influenced by any prior game's distribution.
Damn. That is a boring answer. I was hoping for some outrage about my use of fallacies.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
if Ranger knows these people were townies somehow than his role ability would be ridicules OP ......
So either this is a wild guess or Piss made the game extremely unbalanced which I don't see happening
I think she has the rare Super Cop role (you can request two or three townie roles on D1 with this awesome role). It is balanced because it is rare.
What's ridiculous about it?
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #38 (isolation #10) » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:15 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
By the way, I agree that it is suspicious that Fuzzy is so concerned about these townreads. Was Ranger's wild guess correct and did he foolishly believe she actually knew that?
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #40 (isolation #11) » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:30 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
It shows scum motivation. Why be so worried about a role being overpowered? If this is your initial response, then that is telling. It seems like he knows that she is correct and then complains about her non-existing Super Cop role being overpowered.
From the town POV, she might very well be full of shit... But he skipped this.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #46 (isolation #13) » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:09 pm
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
The reason this is not serious is that it was an rvs vote. An rvs is never intended to be serious.
A useful tactic can be to feign seriousness in order to test for reactions. For example, Ranger pretended to be serious. She has not responded yet, but she would have answered "yes" to the question whether she was serious. Of course, she was not, or at least not very. But sometimes people can be fooled (both townies and scum), so that they give themselves away.
At some point, RVS ceases to be RVS, because people start to get serious. It is not always clear when this starts. It often helps to bluff (yes, good townies bluff all the time during RVS) to force the transition to serious voting.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
Ranger obviously doesn't know these people are town from anything role related. The game would be broken, and I wouldn't have been added after the fact.
This is a very noobscum response, and gets you an FoS.
Again as a more experience player I would know that Piss would not let the game be so unbalanced. I even pointed that out.[/quote]Yes, we get that. The problem with that post, however, was: your initial response to comment on the potential lack of balance in favor of the town.
This
seemed to upset you, or whatever. This is why people view it as a scumtell.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #87 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:55 pm
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
Ugh. Fucked up the quote.
Again as a more experience player I would know that Piss would not let the game be so unbalanced. I even pointed that out.
Yes, we get that. The problem with that post, however, was: your initial response to comment on the potential lack of balance in favor of the town. This seemed to upset you, or whatever. This is why people view it as a scumtell.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #172 (isolation #34) » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:39 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
I realized Bulbazoor was town far too late. I didn't have a chance to defend him. Pignash probably realized this and wanted the lynch to be as quick as possible.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #184 (isolation #37) » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:21 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
In post 183, pignash wrote:There was an hour left when I checked the thread and discussion had stalled. I am not scum. Move elsewhere.
Alright. I misread that. But still, your hammer was way too convenient.
If you want me to move my vote, you better make a good case against someone. Also, defending yourself would help. You should realize you are in a bad position, even if you are town.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
In post 208, pignash wrote:This game is weird. Normally when I miss 24 hours I am lost almost immediately. It is going very slowly and it's a blitz!
Where are you FB? I want to sort you.
You couldn't sort me if you tried.
I feel like I should vote right now, but Im still unsure, I am honestly null on sensei, but my gut says he is town. Don't know what to do.
Vote Pignash.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #214 (isolation #41) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:51 pm
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
In post 211, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@Pig
How do you explain your gameplay this game being similar to Fire and Ice rooms where you were scum??? In both game you seems not to be really trying to keep up with going on
@Ranger
that's nice.... to me that makes you either scum or antitown...Both are lynch options at this point
@Everybody
who are your top two scum reads so far and why
Pignash and Firebringer.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #231 (isolation #46) » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:37 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
BTW. In this situation, self-hammering would have been bad as scum as well, since No Lynch is better than having scum lynched. Self-hammering is only optimal as scum when the lynch is
inevitable
.
So this does not clear Pignash in any way.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #235 (isolation #48) » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:56 am
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
It makes sense that scum-Pignash did not commit the kill. He was the main suspect. Besides, it screwed him over in the last game, so I'm sure he would be against it.
Of course, it is also technically possible that Pignash is town, but let's deal with Sensei first.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire
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Post #263 (isolation #58) » Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:33 pm
Postby AlwaysInnocent »
In post 258, Sensei wrote:I also highly doubt whoever sent that thing to me is gonna claim they did. It's a troll video about ramen noodles or w/e.
Probably scum having a laugh because of how pitiful and apathetic this town is. I mean ffs we no lynched? How does that even happen?
Like I'm almost ashamed to be a part of this game.
I just wanted to hear that from you. You're pretty much cleared.
"You've been furthering the win condition of the Mafia even better than the Mafia." - Dierfire