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Post #101 (isolation #8) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:45 am
Postby 3dicerolling »
I think I have reached the correct conclusion here.
So we have 3 factions in this game. Mafia is unable to shoot at RC because mafia dayvig isn't normal.
That leaves town and sk. RC claimed PGO, so if you consider that, a town player has absolutely no reason to vig RC. If they do, they not only risk hitting town, but they risk getting themselves killed.
That leaves only sk. What I think about the sk is this: If they have bulletproof, then it makes sense that they might take the shot at RC, since it would mean no harm to them. RC is also a strong player in general.
This leads me to believe the sk has at least one dayvig shot, and has bulletproof.
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Post #107 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:51 am
Postby 3dicerolling »
You set up your post with the intent of getting someone to jump on.
The way you set it up was to strawman anyone who voted you afterwards, regardless of what reasons they gave. That is evident by the fact that you did it even though I provided no reason at all.
You aren't trying to figure out my alignment, you are trying to strawman me, and it's pretty scummy.
And you never answered why I need to justify these reads.
because your intentionally not giving info to the town that could be useful. The things you think someone is scum for may be things that everyone else completely missed. If you dont tell us your reasoning we might never realize that someone did something scummy because nobody would notice.
Not all reasoning is concrete this early. I may believe spiffeh is town because my gut is telling me he is town. If I state "Man guys spiffeh is so town, use your guts!", that wouldn't make much sense.
I use early reads to get the ball rolling, and help myself move forward finding scum from there.
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Post #301 (isolation #24) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:46 am
Postby 3dicerolling »
@xtomx - I reading ranger as town. Nothing I'm seeing is all that different from town ranger, and she's been playing similar to me this game.
If it comes down to needing you for a lynch, then I will do it, but at this point, I would rather not lynch you today. I get somewhat of where pisskop is coming from, but I'm also getting townvibes from your posts. I also incorrectly read you last time we played together, so I'm trying to keep all this into account.
That being said, I would much prefer and almost50 lynch.
In post 296, GuiltyLion wrote:I guess actually the best question for you Almost is why on earth do you think 3dr is scum
Because his reaction to my joke-post was most unnatural and extremely exaggerated. He then denied his vote on me was bc of it, but when asked to give an alternative reason he declined. It's one thing to post reads w/o reasoning, and totally another thing to cast a vote for no reason even when you get asked for one by your vote target.
All in all he didn't act in anyway I would consider natural, and the only reason I'm not pushing too hard on him is bc I don't think we will get him lynched today based on the fact not many others share my view, so I'm better off voting on someone we all agree on, in which case I need to be persuaded.
just so you know, he did end up posting reasoning to lynching you that you even responded to, so I see no reason for you to say he gave none when you know he did.
Why are you choosing to defend me rather than attack his play? Or why are you not choosing to defend others as well?
In post 296, GuiltyLion wrote:I guess actually the best question for you Almost is why on earth do you think 3dr is scum
Because his reaction to my joke-post was most unnatural and extremely exaggerated. He then denied his vote on me was bc of it, but when asked to give an alternative reason he declined. It's one thing to post reads w/o reasoning, and totally another thing to cast a vote for no reason even when you get asked for one by your vote target.
All in all he didn't act in anyway I would consider natural, and the only reason I'm not pushing too hard on him is bc I don't think we will get him lynched today based on the fact not many others share my view, so I'm better off voting on someone we all agree on, in which case I need to be persuaded.
just so you know, he did end up posting reasoning to lynching you that you even responded to, so I see no reason for you to say he gave none when you know he did.
Why are you choosing to defend me rather than attack his play? Or why are you not choosing to defend others as well?
This kind of pings WKing.
Im not defending you, im pointing out that a townread of theirs made the same mistake you did.
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Post #348 (isolation #28) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:16 am
Postby 3dicerolling »
In post 107, 3dicerolling wrote:You set up your post with the intent of getting someone to jump on.
The way you set it up was to strawman anyone who voted you afterwards, regardless of what reasons they gave. That is evident by the fact that you did it even though I provided no reason at all.
You aren't trying to figure out my alignment, you are trying to strawman me, and it's pretty scummy.
In post 349, 3dicerolling wrote:There is more, but that was my initial reason for voting him.
So, let me get this straight. You saw my post as an attempt to strawman
anyone
who veted me afterwards, yet you -of all people- decided to bit and
not mention your reason
only to use this backwards reasoning after I called you out for it? Oh, pleeeeease.
How come none of the other two voted me for it? How come everybody else saw the obvious joke (that was hidden inside a spoiler to begin with).
You know what? I don't know why Ranger would think town of you, but I say if there's one confirmed scum in this game it has to be you. Town don't need to lie about their motives to vote and/or create loops within loops to try and justify their actions.
I don't care who you saw comparatively as a scum read. I placed my vote down because it looked like an attempt to backlash at anyone who voted you because of that post, and hey look, as soon as I vote you, you immediately vote back.
Even now, you are strawmanning what I did to appeal to the new person who replaced in.
Let them decide for themselves whether they like the logic or not.
I don't care who you saw comparatively as a scum read. I placed my vote down because it looked like an attempt to backlash at anyone who voted you because of that post, and hey look, as soon as I vote you, you immediately vote back.
Even now, you are strawmanning what I did to appeal to the new person who replaced in.
Let them decide for themselves whether they like the logic or not.
Also, hi ank.
why say hello after already acknowledging someone's presence in the game?
In post 601, 3dicerolling wrote:@Ank - Are you scum/busy/disengaged? You don't seem to be throwing your weight around like in mana khemia.
My activity is a direct reflection of my interest in the gamestate and has very little to no bearing on my alignment. I was much more active in Mana Khemia (and all of my hydra games I don't get bailed on) because having someone I know I work well with and know is the same alignment does huge work towards keeping me invested in the game.
In post 611, 3dicerolling wrote:Do you understand why this can also be seen as smokescreen ank?
I have no idea what you mean by this.
I'm saying that you could be genuinely town and genuinely apathetic, but now adays it seems like scum are using this more and more as an attempt to hide from being noticed.
I'm not saying this is what you are doing, but I'm saying with apathetic people this is always a possibility, and why I try to encourage players not to be apathetic.
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Post #626 (isolation #56) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:46 am
Postby 3dicerolling »
In post 625, GuiltyLion wrote:tbh I'm fine with lynching either SRMP or Nos, slightly prefer Nos. Bulge is a definite no go for me at this point in time