Blitz 18: Wedding Invitational Mafia - GAME OVER

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1st and most important: CONGRATS PENGUIN AND CABD!!!!

I NEED ME SOME GOODMORNING COME IN HERE YOU FLIPPANT FELINE

omg there are like 50 billion pages I HAD AN EXAM, OKAY???????

Gm omg where are you gm

crying, mostly

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It's been way too long since I played a game with no newbies in it and I don't know what's going on at all.

what are closed setups and high activity omg

I have another exam today and 2 more tomorrow so I will probably be here avoiding studying a lot.

I have some townreads I think, but literally no scumreads. I'll probably reread when I'm caught up elsewhere and a little more awake.

p-edit: no i want to abdicate responsibility too

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I am pretty flippant.

Was going to actually type real things but I'm actually LATE

F U C K

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Can I just sheep bork?

No. I find myself not really caring about this Empire and/or pie conversation(s).

Let's talk about Nati instead (or at least in addition), because I don't remember a single one of her posts and that bothers me.

P-Edit: Speak of the devil?

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A reasonably strong townread, yeah, plus you're just really really sheepable. I was trying to start SoC'ing while reading back a couple pages and got bored.

Basically.

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No, seriously. You're usually a pretty memorable poster. It's weird.

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I just opened the study guide for Finance and started crying a little, so I'm doing this instead.

GM

Be honest

Are you scum

Are you mad you drew scum again

Nope.

tbh even if I had drawn Scum I don't even think I'd be mad, any of this playerlist would be super fun to be Scum with and way less likely to make me frustrated than armies of NewbScum.

(There was actually a fifth in a row after the one you linked.)

A reasonably strong townread, yeah, plus you're just really really sheepable. I was trying to start SoC'ing while reading back a couple pages and got bored.

What is SoCing and what games of mine have you read, because I believe our only interactions in any completed game have been scum-scum

SoC = stream of consciousness
Is that supposed to make you less sheepable?
I didn't realise how long ago those were though. I might have to check some more recent meta.

So deadline is in about 2 days. This is normally way past the time where I start freaking out and throwing my vote on the biggest wagon. Lets make this happen though, ya?

ugh what

blitz games

p-edit: @Empire: y u hate me ahhhhhh

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@Empire: Are you asking Mala or did you mean me?

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but mala isn't heeeereeeeee

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Eh, she can answer it whenever she gets here, no rush. >_>

What do you think about AP?

True, but stillllllll

I think he's AP? I'm not really sure, which is a little weird. I tend to townread him fairly quickly but I haven't really been here so it could just be that.

@Nacho: mmmmmk then

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I think he's AP? I'm not really sure, which is a little weird. I tend to townread him fairly quickly but I haven't really been here so it could just be that.

Your focus feels off (and the Nati comment adds to this impression). I feel like AP has been one of the more prolific posters in the game and the subject of a wagon so I don't really get why you didn't mention him as you were going along through the game. Who are your townreads that you mentioned way back?

My focus is almost certainly off. I stand by my Nati comment though. I have vague impressions of a lot of people but none of Nati.
I don't know that I mentioned most people by name. I wasn't looking to.

Current townreads/leans, in no particular order: bork, Tammy (?), Cephrir, BRO, Syr, Nacho. Probably you as well at this point if only because you're engaging me in discussion.

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Do you usually consider GIF a memorable poster?

Sometimes but not always.

I'm sorry for not engaging you goodmorning but you're the first real scumread I've had and it feels really great

Really? I definitely hadn't noticed.

SoC = stream of consciousness
Is that supposed to make you less sheepable?
I didn't realise how long ago those were though. I might have to check some more recent meta.

No, i am just curious what and how much exposure you have to my towngame since you have never played with town me before ever

Not much that I recall. You were in a FakeGod game, I think?

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It was!

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Do you usually consider GIF a memorable poster?

Sometimes but not always.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is I don't really understand why you mentioned Nati there specifically and I'm trying to figure out if that was a calculated move or not.

Because Nati stood out to me as not standing out the most, if that makes any sense at all.

GM: super weird trajectory on me so far. Want to know why she's scumreading Nacho.

I'm not.

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pie is also Town now.

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@GIF: Because we can!

@bork: but they are different catssssss

Nacho is on that list of townreads I posted when I posted a list of townreads.

@Cephrir: No, that part makes sense to me.

p-edit: omg

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@GIF: Because we can!

@bork: but they are different catssssss

Nacho is on that list of townreads I posted when I posted a list of townreads.

@Cephrir: No, that part makes sense to me.

p-edit: omg

These were @ 553, 557, 560 respectively, to clarify

p-edit: GIF ! !

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As it stands I'm still a little weirded out that you immediately called me sheepable despite me 1) not really pushing a scumread right now (what is there to sheep) and 2) not really having a working knowledge of body of work that would cause you to respect my towngame since your only firsthand experience with me is my

scumgame

You're sheepable as a player generally, is what I meant. It's as much to do with personality as it is with anything else.

@Nati: ahhhhh take it seriouslyyyyyy

@Cephrir: No, that part makes sense to me.

in that case, i simply don't understand your response[/quote]
That Nacho's thing about real scumreads makes sense? I'm saying it's an odd thing for you to take issue with.

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I really love that string of naked votes, yup.

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GIF and AP can join my list of townreads.

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Yeah, but I know what he meant by real scumreads. It's like, you're in a game, starting off, maybe this guy is scummy, maybe that guy is scummy, little bits of scumminess like stars in the sky, and then you see someone whose scumminess is so bright it's like the fucking moon.

That, basically. I'll grant that he's wrong, but I have no issues with that particular statement.

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GIF and AP can join my list of townreads.

What are you basing this on?

It's like 98% meta at this point.

Her continuing to push absolutely nothing is also really, seriously lame; she doesn't have any real scumreads and she's not making any effort to form any. I don't think this comes from town.

nacho i am looking for townreads duh

RE: the rest of it: No, I've drawn Town in one completed game since June, and I got killed N1 there. I haven't played a closed setup since BSG, I think. I really don't remember how to play this game at all.
I also had 4 finals in the last 3 days.

On Nati: Yes, there were other people who hadn't done much but they didn't have the fifth- or sixth-most posts at the time.

[quote="In post 833, Malakittens"Plus every single game in the last ~3 months~ she's been scum. I mean I don't even think I know what town-GM would be like anymore ._.[/quote]
Me neither.

Town gm would be liberated

Town gm would be confused af

I'm not the Bride or Groom but it would really be better not to lynch me.

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wait

nacho you were just in one of my 5-in-a-row ic scumgames

and you think this is scum me?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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I'll try and explain what I mean on AP but it'll take me a little while.

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GM claimed VT but people seem to incorrectly interpreting that as a PR claim.

I claimed "not B or G". That's not the same as VT.

Current Townreads/leans: Tammy (?), Cephrir, BRO, Nacho (?), Empire, pie, AP, GIF, Mala(?).

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ap

why are you asking tammy questions but not me

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Mara! Will you talk to me about things?

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Can anyone tell me why Nati is still UTR?

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p-edit: Well, but I dangled that naked readslist out there to try and see who'd talk to me about it and it went totally ignored, which is lame. I'm asking you specifically right this minute because you happen to be here now and asking people questions who aren't me.
I am townreading you on meta and pretty much only meta.
I'm not extremely interested in voting anyone, since most of the active people are townreads of mine. I need to make time to sit down and look at all the people not on that list, but haven't had time yet. I really want to know why everyone's ignoring Nati.
I wasn't that into the Mala wagon to begin with, mostly because the best reason to scumread her was defensiveness and she hadn't really been around to go on the offensive before she had to take the defensive. I don't know how likely Motivator is to be an actual claim in a Blitz or any game, but I don't find it that unbelievable.

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Gm - I had a question to ask about the reads list. Do you not have a read on Mara? (After all that defending of you she did it just seems kinda rude! :p )

Mara's kind of difficult for me to read at present; we haven't played together since like 2013 and in the most recent one we were Masons together.
So she's on my "to-sort" list still.

Can anyone tell me why Nati is still UTR?

Well I'm willing to ignore her at least a little bit since Bork went out after calling her megatown.

boooo

I'm not to sure what to say about your townreads; I have been flipflopping on a lot of my reads today and a list is a list.

fair enough

I could ask you to explain some of them, but not sure why I'd be expected to do that over anyone else :S.

like i said, because you're here.
idk

Why Pie? Are you not concerned about Ceph saying that you and Mala almost certainly has a scum in it?

I had a really strong townread on pie for some of the early D1 stuff. It's pretty much held over from that.
Should I be?

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gm why am I scum?

I didn't say you were!

@GM: I don't know, lol. I'd be interested if Ceph said something similar about me and you are townreading him hard.

If you have opinions about the game that you haven't aired for any reason, I'd like to hear them potentially.

He can be wrong and still be Town.

I don't think I have any opinions missing at this point, just some of the work to get to them.

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What do you wanna talk about gm

I don't know but I'm going to figure it out tonight.

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notsci where the hell did you come from?????

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notsci srsly

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only 3?

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Mara?

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no, GIF was pretty Town so I'm not that worried but 3 townreads feels kind of small based on real shit happening

p-edit: notsci i don't know what you want from people

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notsci

what is anyone supposed to say in response to "well maybe they're scum but maybe not idk"?

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Well I mean, sure

But I still did have a pool of scum and a pool of notscum so if you thought scum was not in my scum pool thatd be an important convo to have with me?

your scum pool is kind of huge tho?

You said you wanred to talk. Im off and on today, but we can still do it

And I figured out what I wanted to talk about but I don't actually remember what it was now so ????
I think it was something about notsci?

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Where did Nacho go? And where is Nati?

And why does AP post so much?

p-edit: or maybe that's just what he wants us to think

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your scum pool is kind of huge tho?

6 players I am not townreading

Sooooooo

okay?

Well yeah, it's only a 15p?

Well I mean, sure

But I still did have a pool of scum and a pool of notscum so if you thought scum was not in my scum pool thatd be an important convo to have with me?

your scum pool is kind of huge tho?

You said you wanred to talk. Im off and on today, but we can still do it

And I figured out what I wanted to talk about but I don't actually remember what it was now so ????
I think it was something about notsci?

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Where did Nacho go? And where is Nati?

And why does AP post so much?

p-edit: or maybe that's just what he wants us to think

why do you not ever say anything interesting? i fall asleep reading your posts

rude

I want to know why everyone ignores my posts and then decides hey, yeah, let's lynch a person who's already softed, that's a great idea.
I want to know why everyone is ignoring Nati, because apparently I have a bee in my bonnet about that.
I want to know why the same few people keep posting and posting and making it really hard to keep up with the game.

Sorry these things are boring to you.

Here's a soft claim: DONT LYNCH ME.

stop being a hypocrite

@Tammy: It is a Cabd game, so...?

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Um goodmorning, just so you know you can't complain that someone wants to lynch someone who's soft claimed while also saying that someone shouldn't wonder why someone who is a pr wouldn't be skeptical about people who have already soft claimed as well.

If you're recognizing it's a cabd game, then you'd have to recognize that we have to be careful of the claims and be skeptical of them.

Unless you're saying we should just lynch VTs, in which case you should be lynching me which would probably actually just be fine because apparently we can't get anything done in this game because everyone has to have their pet town reads they're not going to explain or even doubt and scum are probably just defending each other and we're not going to get a scum lynch in this game.

I'm saying it's not very surprising that there are 50 bn PR claims. Cabd games tend closer to RM than to Mtn.

Which ones are true is another question. Yes, healthy skepticism is a virtue, but I don't see any real reason to disbelieve pie, since I can think of only one role that could be in those crumbs and don't think it makes sense as a mod-provided fake.

Let's talk out people's pet townreads then?

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rude

I want to know why everyone ignores my posts and then decides hey, yeah, let's lynch a person who's already softed, that's a great idea.
I want to know why everyone is ignoring Nati, because apparently I have a bee in my bonnet about that.
I want to know why the same few people keep posting and posting and making it really hard to keep up with the game.

Sorry these things are boring to you.

Your soft was unclear, but it's not sufficient to make me not interested in lynching you.
Nati's barely posting. There's not much to ignore anymore.
Because it's a mafia game and that's what happens in mafia games

Well they are

dull
All the more reason to fucking pay attention. And the whole "this is probably mountainous" thing from earlier makes me twice as nervous of Nati now.
but it's annoying omg

Then ask me something interesting instead of telling me I only want to talk about boring things.

VOTE: Nati

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I think asking for your role would be interesting, but frowned upon.

Not that this question is interesting, but why are you nervous about nati for weirdly softclaiming vanilla?

ugh seriously????

Because it's not just a weird vanilla softclaim? It's 1. a player not paying attn to the gamestate (BRO's miller thing) and 2. a player not paying attn to

the game designer

which is a weird thing not to pay attn to when you're making a statement like that.

@Tammy: Or be faking it for nefarious purposes.

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Well to be fair, I thought cabd and penguin were going to be playing in this game and I thought it was going to be a large (still grumbling about that one I really don't think it was right to blindside us with a blitz there's a reason I haven't signed up for blitz games!), so not thinking that part through doesn't concern me a whole lot.

I'm not sure that not picking up on that which could have been an RVS joke is a scum tell.

IDK I suppose, I'm just not sure I believe Nati went the fake dumbtell route.

It's one thing for it to be a different game type than you expected. It's another thing entirely to throw out something like that.

Although I kinda want to lynch good morning for the you don't lunch someone who has softed thing.

Except I didn't say that?

what's wrong with not paying attention to the gamestate?

srsly

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yeah. is missing something scummy?

paying no attention =/= missing things

Then what did you mean by everyone ignores my posts and then thinks yeah let's lynch someone who's already softed, like that's a great idea?

I mean that it adds slightly more egregiousness to the former!

Compared to BSG mafia where she was REALLY town, I agree with Ceph here that shes been not extremely present.

i mean

i can throw a tantrum if you want

but someone i consider extremely obvTown is gonna have to get lynched first.

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what is this bg stuff ughhhhhhhh

can they really not both be bgs? i feel like there is some overreaction going on here.

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can they really not both be bgs? i feel like there is some overreaction going on here.

so you think they are both bgs?

>.>

btw why aren't you interactign with me at all

your feline sister needs love!

Kinda, yeah?

Because we never seem to be on at the same time and

so many posts

!!

You really like pie over Marquis here?

p-edit: I don't agree.

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I don't want you to throw a tantrum, I want you to claim.

To what end?

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Your shoe size.

Or your fucking role. You know that one ounce been softing, that whole reason you think you shouldn't be lynched.

Yeah, no, what I mean is: why? What good will it do me? How will it benefit Town more than it benefits Scum?

I do. I can kinda see the way Pie's weird behavior is trying to avoid being "super obv town" in past games to not draw the NK, but to use her ability as a BG efficently. IDK if that sounds weird.

I wasn't really liking Gif, but maqruis didnt make me feel any better soooo

I sort of see what you're getting at but I actually found GIF pretty Town so.

Good morning not looking at all these roles critically at all is really concerning.

Based on the role I have, the setup already makes 0 sense.

So yes, I could believe anything.

Like how the fuck can people look at goodmorning and like this.

See, this is what I've been saying about you.
And still nobody listens.

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gdi pie

how in the ever loving fuck do we still not have a claim from gm

Because I don't take my wagon seriously at all? Also because I don't want to.

ugh deadline is so soon

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i don't want to lynch pie but it's more important that i don't die

VOTE: pie

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why aren't we lynching nati

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Cephrir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I don't have a problem with the Scum Thread going up.