Blitz 16: Blitz Greatest Idea Mafia(GAME OVER)

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VOTE: Almost50

present, madam.

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Ikr, I'm looking forward to seeing some of these messed up combinations in action! >:)

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I've been dealt a scummy modifier whose only modifier is to make me look suss so Ima claim it now, avoid difficulties later. I have a gravedigger flavour. If you see me visiting literally everyone who dies in the night, don't be alarmed. I'm not satan.

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Someone smart should think up how we going to deal with liars, misinformation and false positives in this game. I don't see the traditional tactics working out.

Anyhow good night. I can feel all the catch up I'll need when I awake..

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I like Flubbernugget. You should read him too, it's insightful stuff. My first draw was:
Fruit Vendor
VT
Cop

I went with town cop. Tbh after hearing all these modifiers I'm not too sorry to have lost that role.

VOTE: Wednesday I didn't mind their belief that Ranger was townfirmed, even if this is completely wrong; the easy concession coupled with Flubbernugget's observation that there are no scum reads coming from him are what makes Wednesday scum material. I'd say lynch him.

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policy fight Day 1? Cmon guys..

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@smithers I called persivul scum and voted him. I see you don't let reality bother you either.

I don't recall seeing a scum read from you. After reading your ISO I still don't see a scum read from you.

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Why are you compiling a list of roles that you think everyone has ranger..? Town doesn't have any use for them I think you should stop that.

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Isn't the rule perma ban after temp ban? If RC is under temp ban I'd assume he's going to want to be smart and not risk breaking rules etc.

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hey, why am I voting against two people? Is that a mistake?

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@Almost50, can you prove that you normally have her pegged page 8 of Day 1? I find that claim highly dubious.

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I read that shit earlier as a joke, sorry Persivul. On that note I'm still voting Wednesday.

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If ranger dies, at least we can assume a large scum presence on his wagon when he bloody flips town. my gosh.

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Oh lol, I thought there were 2 hours left. Nvm.. Still have time to discuss.

@FA, are you so confident about the Link between Wednesday and the other guy that you're prepared to kill him...?

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Weird in the sense that town don't do weird things? Or weird in another way?

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Imo scum are generally greedy capitalistic pigs who jump like jews at the sign of profit. The 'slip' was clearly a situation that could be capitalised on, ergo the push. I don't read anything more than what it is, and it's clearly in jest.

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It needed the alliteration lol. If there are any jews here that dislike it I'll retract and apologise

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If I were scum Frozen, the last thing I'd do is draw a blatantly fallacious town read on my scum mate and then pull of stupid jokes to draw even more attention.. I don't think they're too dissimilar to me.

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Yes Frozen, I mean to imply that it was in fact a joke, and that they never saw this response coming..

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This game is quickly devolving into semantics. Pls stop? o.o

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Yes Frozen, I mean to imply that it was in fact a joke, and that they never saw this response coming..

I'm not talking about the mason claim. I'm talking about the whole panicking - defensive reactions of wednsday

His reactions read quite strongly as distaste for being misunderstood. Both townies and scummies react badly to being misinterpreted in a way that puts them on the chopping block.

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Frozen hnny are you all good? O.o

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Lol, is the cryptic speech really necessary?

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Either RC is playing to confirmation bias or he really is being opportunistic. Also, Persivul throwing casual scum claims around on page 17 didn't go unnoticed. For now:

UNVOTE:

VOTE: RC

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Well..

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Persivul

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It's a rather slow Blitz match imo.. T.T

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Also, Persivul throwing casual scum claims around on page 17 didn't go unnoticed.

I reviewed page 17 and saw that I was pressuring Almost50, who I made a case on way back in 195. No clue what you mean by throwing casual scum claims around...although that's what you seem to be doing here, by making the claim without mentioning any specifics.

I must've missed the 195th post then. Or else I wasn't thinking of it when you waltzed in and labelled a seemingly innocuous post scum. Try put the links with it or else the context condemns you more than him.

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Idk how unlynchables work. Does the Day end with a no lynch if he attains majority vote?

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yeah but do we lose today's lynch if we test it?

UNVOTE:

VOTE: RC

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I must've missed the 195th post then. Or else I wasn't thinking of it when you waltzed in and labelled a seemingly innocuous post scum. Try put the links with it or else the context condemns you more than him.

I'd say this post condemns you more than either of us. You're not paying attention to the game, voting on nothing, and yet accusing me of doing the same when you should know that I've been scum reading Almost50 for most of the game.

Voting on nothing? It was clearly implied that interpreting a behaviour as scummy without contextual justification is scummy as fuck. There was no context there and all I associate with you is the push against Wednesday + Ranger which just reeks of opportunism. So from my PoV you sir are sitting on a scum slot.

I'm not autistic, I can't recall a list of who voted who at all moments of the game. You can assume the others are like me, so for our benefit the scum read should be more clearly explained. Otherwise it looks exactly how it appears. Prima Facie Scum.

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townfirmation > mislynch on Day 1 imo.

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Didn't we redraw the first time because the ratio's were not ideal? I find it hard to believe town is at LYLO on day 1.

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omg mafia is a game of probability. If we decided to no lynch every time we weren't 100% certain about the lynch we'd never, ever lynch. Do continue discussing the probability and the most beneficial course of action from that. It's going fucks further than the joke of a 'slip' from earlier.

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omg mafia is a game of probability. If we decided to no lynch every time we weren't 100% certain about the lynch we'd never, ever lynch. Do continue discussing the probability and the most beneficial course of action from that. It's going fucks further than the joke of a 'slip' from earlier.

And probability says we can be in lylo as much as we can be in 1 scum others town game...

So stop this shit and find scums...

In your opinion, who is it most likely to be at this point?

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how many of them are scum tells? What's the probability of him being scum? high or low? Enough to warrant his lynch?
^Essential questions.

You seem to imply your stance on him is scum.

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Whoever hammers better have a solid read on Wednesday.

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Smither, if I say I like your avi will you vote Jackal?

Not really. I'm the only person allowed to love black rock. Aside from that, Trust issues. I've been finding it suss how you label something scummy and then just pile on. Sure it's unlikely that the behaviour in question is particularly logical, however when it's the 5th time you've called out someone in that fashion, I know they can't all be scum.

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je suis present, madame. We need to settle with a lynch target shortly. Imo both people who targeted Jackal are town, so I don't mind lynching there. The Wednesday wagon turned me off entirely. So

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Jackal

yes it's a sheep vote.

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Nice it seems we have 2 candidate for end day lynch!

who is town ... who is scum ...

You find it nice that scum managed to run up a town counter wagon?

Tbh if that actually is what happened, all the more reason to pile on. Flips tend to tell us stuff like that.

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Wait is Smithereens the guy that confuses 4chan autism with actual autism

Well fuck

Could you not insinuate a gender which I am not? k thx.

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nah it's a redirector. I tried to vig Persival because I thought he was scum, but someone else died. I figure I shot the werewolf seeing as they probably wouldn't shoot themselves.

Blackstart your analysis is off since Wednesday was a solo scum and no scum would actually have known her affiliation.

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@Almost50 I don't buy that at all. Townies should defend their convictions with as much effort as they can since they know their own reads can be trusted to be in line with the goals of the town affiliation. Persivul trying to relieve pressure off Jackal with the stated intention of destabalising a scum counter wagon is inherently protown.

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Let's just say Wednesday was an inevitable lynch. She displayed behaviours that we nail where we see them. As it happens, she was also survivor so we learn absolutely nothing from her flip.

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Imo, the Wednesday wagon needs to die. Scum thought Wednesday was town, the people who pushed her for betraying inside knowledge on ranger were incorrect objectively so if most of the scum team weren't on the Wednesday wagon then Ima monkey's uncle.

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VOTE: Blackstar

Starting here.

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Not a good start, Smithereens.

Why? With a redirector on the loose it's all good.

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Is there a reason you voted for me?

Yes. Thinning the Wednesday wagon. It's my own hunting. In my mind we know that Wednesday did not betray scum info by claiming Ranger is town as the flip shows no scum team. All those who pushed him regardless are suspect. We know that scum being the opportunistic bastards they are would have been a contributing factor so it's safe to assume high scum concentration on this wagon.

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Lady you were already being read town by both Ranger and FA, nobody was going to vote you.

Nevermind.. what's done is done. Let's hope there is someone out there who can protect you.

It's not to alleviate pressure, it's so you know that the reasoning I'm proposing is something you should take seriously. I propose we kill off the wagon from yesterday.

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@Almost50 I don't buy that at all. Townies should defend their convictions with as much effort as they can since they know their own reads can be trusted to be in line with the goals of the town affiliation. Persivul trying to relieve pressure off Jackal with the stated intention of destabalising a scum counter wagon is inherently protown.

Sorry, but I'm not following. If he was acting pro-town, how come you tried to vig him and came out to tell us that??

P.S. This is NOT pointing a finger at you. I'm just trying to understand your case for/against Persivul.

Ignore my scum read on him, I'm criticism the grounds on which you make your claim. Imo you errantly believe that Persivul is scum by affiliation. This reasoning is weak. This reasoning is easily concocted by scum, so this reasoning cannot go unanswered.

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I voted for Wednesday before there even was a wagon. She refused to answer any of the questions that people asked her and I thought that was suspicious so I voted for her.

The 'answers' which she never gave were only to misguided beliefs that she was a scum buddy to Ranger, which was clearly false. You voted for her after Persival fabricated this case and rode the suspicion without creating anything original yourself. Imo both you and Persival are scum for that.

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Why? With a redirector on the loose it's all good.

How come you're so sure they're town aligned though?

Because there were two deaths in the night. A scum and a townie. The townie was probably killed by the scum, so who killed the scum? My target didn't die, so I assume the shot went there. Can I safely assume the scum don't kill themselves? Or nah?

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k Blackstar. I will go back and read the order of votes.

UNVOTE:

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VOTE: Almost50

Information slip.

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post 825 he reveals he is actively aware of the fact that role is not indicative of alignment. Next post he votes because Jackal is voting for the 'town' vig. He shouldn't be able to assume I'm anything other than null, so the fact he knows I'm town must mean he's scum.

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BRB

Btw, it looks like I'm gonna have to do some editing to my initial thoughts (the ones done overnight) to fit the new situation. Either that or post them "as is" then state what I would like to change.

Which option would you prefer?

P.S. Question specifically directed at Ranger, Smithereens & FA. They're the only ones I can trust for now.

Spoiler: image

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Wait, I'm fucking alive?

could you explain the surprise?

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Both IS the 2nd option. *LOL*

actually i have another issue wanting your attention in post 834.

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oh fuck you're right. lol a lil trigger happy in this game maybe

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UNVOTE:

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@Smithereens: Are your missing the "Ranger & FA already read you as town" part? I mean, I won't claim I had read you as strong town lean yesterday, but by the D1 end it was Ranger, YOU, FA & ME on Jackal, so my read must've changed by the time Wednesday got lynched & flipped.

ignore me pls. I thought you just blatantly outted knowing my affiliation but I hadn't read correctly.

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OK, 2nd part of my analysis:

-Wednesday was a 3rd party with the potential to be town-friendly.
-So, anyone who voted her is NULL (bc town don't know, while scum will know she's not with them)

The fact that she wasn't on the scum team means she is a scum target when it comes to the lynch. Everyone who mislynches is suspect by default. Those who do it opportunistically, which is what we saw yesterday, are even more so. The scum lynched what they thought was another townie. They were looking for that mislynch and for all thoughts and intents they got it.

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What's the point of outing a soft result? Is FA town or isn't she? Can you confirm or can't you?

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role cop he is. Affiliation does not follow however, so he still leans scum for me.