Blitz 11: Pick Your Power X/Y (Game over!)

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I picked 13 because the rules said to pick a low number but not one that would be picked by someone else. I failed.

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holy cow.. 7 pages overnight?

reading.

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from what i've seen, ika is trollish player, so.....

VOTE: ika

Is this a policy lynch then..? No RVS vote?

can't do my traditional ika policy vote since he already has two.

It's a 14 player game. Do you know something we don't?

I was in the top 4 in the draft phase, doe. And I have the role I wanted since that thing. Go me!

Right, let's just all claim. -_-

Alignment is independent of role here. Doesn't even matter if you got a role so I'm not really interested in discussing anything role-related or bringing the point up unless it pertains to alignment. Don't highlight stuff like this.

This thing is town AF.

I was joking, but okay.

Let's just discuss why ETL should be lynched for picking 13. Because who likes that number anyway?

ETL doesn't like me.

This isn't relevant to this game. It is not a topic of discussion. Drop it.

I picked 13 because the rules said to pick a low number but not one that would be picked by someone else. I failed.

Have you been here watching since page 1?

Nope. Saw the game opened and came to make an RVS post. I saw 3dicerolling's post and responded real quick before going back to class.

Because that name was taken. Don't know how, cos I checked the userbase and no one is called Jeanne13.

Do you use Jeanne13 on any other sites? Can you provide a link?

Jesus christ this is such a spammy waste of time. Making absolutely zero attempts to further the game state or get us out of this shitty RVS.

VOTE: Persivul

Can you choose a pronoun please?

... Seriously?

Speaking of which, are you an internet creeper, Persivul. Cos if you are, I will have to punish you. All internet creepers must be punished. I will punish you by having you watch Dora the Explorer all day.

No. Have you ever seen Brian Regan's bit on Dora the Explorer and the Kennedy's? Hilarious.

OMFG. MORE IRRELEVANT BULLSHIT.

Unvote; Vote: ETL

I'm liking both 13's already.

I like you too.

Buddying.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: 3dice

isn't sarcasm. and are all acceptable for indicating sarcasm.

Legitimate question - do you have Asperger's?

Somebody prod me when RVS is over and ppl quit hating on the #13. tia ttyl

UGH. WHY.

I'm not going to even bother hiding I'm a VT.

{Hinduragi}
{3dice}
{Umalaut, EspeciallyTheLies, hiplop, Aronis, ika}
{Jeanne, Persivul}

...Well it's not exactly strong reads except 3dice and Hinduragi.

I actually like what you're posting this time. Hoping that means what I think it means.

I really hate it when people make serious votes without explaining them.

That makes two of us. And practically everybody does that nowadays.

God you are so fucking useless.

It's amazing how consistent the fascination with the numbers is in these PyP games. Third game, third time that the numbers are mentioned a lot. At least it seems to be more joking than serious this time around.

I wish it wasn't a thing. I feel like the last 3 pages I've read were a huge waste of my time.

lol at pickachu neckwrap

Who the fuck are you....

Omg I can't even with this game... *sigh*

Will continue from the top of page 5 when I get back from coffee.

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Fuck off with your lurking bullshit, pers. Some people do have lives. I was in class until 9:30 pm and then I passed the fuck out because I was in class since 7:30 yesterday morning, then work, then class again.

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continuing from page 5. please don't lynch anyone until i catch up. there's 4 new pages since i was last here. a few hours ago.

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ok so... i got busy with work yesterday and we're doing tons of OT, and i don't have the will to make specific notes about every little thing. i skimmed through the rest of it but i will need some help.

right now i'm working through finding some town reads - so far liking Hindu, 3dice and Ranger. Ideas and things they've noticed match up with my own thoughts. Still happy with my vote on Persivul. Jeanne seems like silly newb - not sure if town or scum but I would wager town. Not really interested in lynching her today. I'd also vote Aronis - hasn't done much of anything at all.

right now i want to see persivul's flip and go from there.

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You made around twenty posts in other games throughout the day yesterday (my time).

Yep. In games where I was already involved and didn't need to read several pages of content.

Further, this is nothing like your activity in Blitz 1, in which you were town.

I didn't have 8-16 hours of overtime and finals.

Get off my junk Persivul. I don't care if you want to vote me. But just don't speak to me.

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my time card at work and my school schedule.

so again, fuck off Persivul.

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It would be one thing to criticize my efforts if I was actually posting and pretending to be involved but not providing content or anything.

It's an entirely other thing to criticize my ability to even be here when I'm clearly making an effort to be here so Rob doesn't need to find a replacement.

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That shit really pisses me off. It's a total invalidation.

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Managerial accounting - what's your major? Did you consider accounting itself? CPA field is wide open.

This has fucking nothing to do with the game.

STOP. TALKING. TO ME.

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davesaz looks town too.

town {ranger, hindu, 3dice, davesaz}

scum is somewhere in the rest. sorting those now.

p-edit: please fuck off.

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i've got enough reads that the next step for me is confirming or re-evaluating where i'm at. you know nothing about my methods, and i think you're pretty terrible, and i dislike you and dislike playing with you. discuss me with others all you fucking want. lead a crusade against me for all i fucking care, but seriously, fuck off, stop talking to me. you're a pos player and your criticisms of my play are worthless to me.

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scum is somewhere in the rest. sorting those now.

But you already know that you want to see my flip and go from there...

FUCKING LOL

yes. we all stop scum hunting once we've gotten one strong scumread. /s

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hindu - where are you at right now?

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I am happy with my vote on Persivul.

I wished there was a post, or smiley that would tell ETL to calm the fuck down.

i am calm. i am simply expressing my distaste for persivul, who blatantly ignored my request to avoid me and signed up for a game i was already signed up for.

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Right here, about to get a haircut. What's up?

Probably going to drive for 10 minutes to get to the place so I'll post from there.

i meant in terms of reads and relative strength. i need someone to bounce off right now.

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i'll be back in a couple hours - i have a meeting, but i'll be around. hindu - let's chat then.

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Right here, about to get a haircut. What's up?

Probably going to drive for 10 minutes to get to the place so I'll post from there.

i meant in terms of reads and relative strength. i need someone to bounce off right now.

Oh. Aronos scum. Persivul is scum. Jeanne is pure lulz and is the easy wagon I think scum would want to jump on. L over there town af. Don't care about ika because he wants blood and I want someone like that to live into D2. 3dr and Tn town. Not feeling anything else atm.

Pretty much exactly where I'm at - who is L though?

I'm pretty sure I know why ika is doing what he's doing. It's null, annoying, but nothing to be done about it. If he's scum we'll find out soon enough. I didn't quite have a read on tn yet - on my current to do list. what stuck out the most to you?

Ranger is super strong town. Don't like PO much at all.

i agree on ranger. some of the stuff was kinda derpy and reminded me of blitz 1 but i think that may be playstyle at this point. i think the logic behind the numbers was really sound and a good starting place. i dont much care for PO either, especially most recent posting. totally useless.

Do you think that affects your read on me?

get over yourself. you're not the only one i dislike.

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total nulls are hiplop and umlaut. i feel like they are non-entities.

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Hey newsflash, stop being such and uptight welp and muddying the game with your AtE whining.

who is this directed at? because if it's at me...

then lol!

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Muddy the shit out of the game and have the nerve to call us useless when all youre doing is insulting persi with minimal pushing?

do you have a stake in his survival? if not, you can stfu or start contributing something worthwhile.

p-edit... seriously... what is your problem? I'm posting my reads and trying to engage people about them.

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PO, i've done more in one page than you've done all game lol... fuck off

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UmulauttU8DAR guy is town, pretty convinced of it TBH

talk to me about this more - i've gotten nothing on him. what has he done that's convinced you of his towniness?

davesaz looks town too.

Why? Can you explain this because I don't see it.

that one is mostly gut but i'm not getting any pings so far and i like the way he's trying to think about things, at least on the surface. do you have something else or is it just null?

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this is sounding a lot like OMGUS. All your scumreads are people who scumread you.

this actually makes me think newbtown even more.

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i was putting more vinewb to titus levels

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Jeanne shouldn't be new to mafia though.

This isnt the same jeanne who literally claimed scum as scum.

id need to meta her before anything.

you have experience with her?

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i was putting more vinewb to titus levels

naturally

you realzie thats not a compliment right? titus is like one of the worst known players around and commonly gets myslynched for being white noise and illogical and not ever chaning?

she's not "worst known". her reads are actually quite good. her problem is only that she's stubborn and annoying. she gets mislynched for that, not for being VI. i'm surprised to see you say this.

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ika you used to be so sweet and fun to play with. i dont know what happened to you but i dont like it.

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Jeanne shouldn't be new to mafia though. This isnt the same jeanne who literally claimed scum as scum. id need to meta her before anything.

One game. Not enough to say for sure, and it was a few months ago.

does it look the same or different?

Well like 3, but she always replaces out

bleh. i think there are bigger fish to fry at the moment and letting jeanne settle into the game might not be a terrible idea. getting emotional and defending yourself puts everything else on hold. i'd like to see what she does tomorrow. i think her alignment will become easily apparent soon enough.

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etl, im not dodging your question Im just about to shower and will answer after

i look forward to it.

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I've seen scum Jeanne take the whole team down with her. And in a later game, replace out when she got a scum role.
I don't think it's fair to classify her style as new. I'd call it unguarded, and I've seen that as both alignments.

what is your current read on her right now?

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prod received. sorry. I'm not usually around on the weekends. i think aronis is probably good chance to be scum here. otherwise there would have been more push to counter the Jeanne wagon.

someone said Jeanne usually takes down her partners with her when scum. has anyone found anything useful in the ISO besides whining?

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wait wait we lynched already??? the day just started wtf

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I don't even understand why/how that happened...

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then why didn't we lynch aronis ika...???? that makes no fucking sense.

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I don't even know who was lynched but you're saying "aronis next" and "aronis scum regardless" so I'm asking why didn't you go for aronis if you think he's scum regardelss?

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I said I wanted to lynch aronis. I wanted to get more information. so I really don't understand why anyone supported any lynch this quickly this far into the game. it's really stupid whether it hits scum or not because there's no way to evaluate the wagon.

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whatever. I knew this game would be shit when I saw the playerlist. not sure why I'm surprised now.

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Jesus Christ fuck off ika. you are terrible and you're not enjoyable to play with and you legit ruin games for other players.

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just because you're too fucking stupid to understand how vca works or how to use it doesn't mean no one cares about it. you don't care about it. because you're a fucking moron.

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I'm done with blitz games. it seems it only attracts the kind of players who belong on EM. people with no brains who lynch in the dark because thinking is too much effort so why not just go "LOL SPEEDLYNCH HAHA"

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Need to look back at Unlaut and see if he dropped some hints to who he copped.

yeah i was looking too but his first post of D2 doesn't look like anything about anything. I was hoping at least to find a townread that came out of nowhere but I couldn't find anything. I'll look again but I think we're stuck with no cop crumbs.

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Read list, explanations not included. I am still struggling to keep up with this game so these may be subject to sudden change.

Town:

ika, 3dicerolling

Null:

hiplop, EspeciallyTheLies, tn5421

Scum:

Pipe Organist, Kop, Aronis

This was his first D3 post. I'm in agreement on either PO or Aronis. 3dice has been a townread for me since D1 and that hasn't changed. I could see ika being scum but I'm too iffy on it and it's possible Umlaut checked him N1 so I'm fine leaving him alone today.

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This is where I'm at and I think we're on track.

Town
{3dice, hiplop}

Meh
{tn, ika}

Scum
{PO, Aronis}

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THERE WAS ONLY ONE VIG SHOT AND THE OTHER ONE IS NIGHT 3.

what did this mean?

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642 makes it look like he either copped Ika and I, or Ika and PO

Possibly but if he got a guilty wouldn't he have come out and said so? I'm reading ISOs right now.

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I'd rather lynch Kop than Pipe Organist since he's basically just fucked off this whole game anyway.

VOTE: Kop

This says no.

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I mean no, he probably didn't check PO if he was willing to lynch kop first.

See this is why your first post of the day as a cop should contain the name of your target if they were town.

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i wasnt going to be the one to sef-wank, but yea psure i was the cop target viven all the dirt he threw my way several times without pushing..

? if he copped you, then he'd have known if you were town or scum definitively one way or the other, but he seemed unsure of you, so... i don't think he copped you.

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ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh i dunno how i missed that it's first in the list lol

p-edit: i agree hiplop. i'm not pushing ika.

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yeah we're great at reading.

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I'm reading ISOs and thinking. I think Jeanne's ISO is probably going to be the most useful.

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I'm honestly leaning more towards wanting to lynch Aronis, but PO is just as scummy.

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actually i lied. her ISO is full of shit *sigh*

Umlaut - Town - Attempting to solve the game
Aronis - Town - Seems like he's trying to solve the game as well
ika - Town - seems too hammer-happy to me though
Kop - Town
tn - Town
ETL - Town
dicerolling - Town
You - Town
Pipe Organist - Town
davesaz - Town

hiplop - feels scummy to me
Persivul - gives me heebie-jeebies
Ranger - Refuses to explain why I am scum exactly and ignores me when I ask

weird how she went from wanting ika's head to solid townread. aronis looks the worst here imo. at the time of this post, aronis was doing jack shit (and still is actually).

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I'm fine with it if everyone else is fine with it.

We don't really have room for error on policy lynches at this point but I do think Aronis is the way to go.

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I think now is an appropriate time for mass claim, though it seems kind of useless to me.

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oops. I'm here. I didn't see this in my view my posts thing and night seemed to last forever. Reading.

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No, we're waiting on ETL's claim and you need to be here to discuss stuff with me

I'm a VT. I asked for the PGO.

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No, you know what pisskop, I'm tired of your fucking shit

If this is a gamethrow, so fucking be it.

VOTE: Aronis

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by that i mean either etl or hiplop is but they're not scum together because their interaction was hella awkward imo

what a terrible attempt to set up today's lynch. i didn't even think about this yesterday but hiplop being dead - instead of ya know.. ika or 3dice - makes this super clear now.

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is today lylo or tomorrow?

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where is everyone now??

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alright so what now?

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if he does, he better have something amazing to say because he's been grandstanding the entire fucking game.

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that makes me sad.

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ok then. there's nothing more for me to say if you have already made up your mind. you've been my top town read since D1 and that hasn't changed at all. I was hoping to work the game out with you but i don't think it will be productive.

good luck i guess. i'm going back to work.

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i'm not, just disappointed.

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i've been saying PO/pk is scummy for like two days but no one was listening.

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well i don't think he's scum and i think ika suddenly making it into the TOWN COP's town list without reason from not being there the day before makes a hell of a lot of sense to say he checked ika. especially given the fact that ika was being all kinds of fucking scummy on D1.

p-edit: idgaf.

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lol

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ika. i'm working 8 to 16 hours OT for the last 3 weeks because we are short-staffed and going to school full time right now. it's finals week.

i'm town. better to lynch me now than in lylo tomorrow. i dont have the energy or the time to deal with idiots.

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last thoughts since no one seems to be reading

i'm thinking pk/tn team. lynch from there tomorrow. both are relatively the same strength and i'd lynch either, with preference on tn for the bullshit shut down of the claims yesterday. stupid obvious.

3dice and ika are practically conftown imo. do not touch them. ever. i dont care how paranoid yall get. don't be dumb.

VOTE: tn

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impassioned pleas to emotion dont respect logics yo.

yeah. totally.

i'm not asking anyone for any emotion. ika is giving me shit for not being around. i explained why. not to mention that my activity can be tracked site-wide and has been low for the last few weeks because i'm busy. fuck off with your bullshit buzz words k.

also 3dice said it's not lylo. so whatever i dont really are. get this game off my plate. sorry i suck. bye.

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etl im not giving you shit for being inactive. im adressing your inactivity in general. I dont know your RL or your work scedule. its irrelivent that you are busy RL though. I am judging you based on yoru play in this game

... no you said i'm not around being a leader.

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because i'm busy... you should know my scumgame does not consist of fucking taking a back seat, now does it?

i seriously dont care if we lose or not, but it's goddamn annoying to be judged on RL shit that has nothing to do with the game. i've been here giving my input as much as i feasibly can. pk is playing at some scum theater with tn and it's obvious. this should be easy. 3dice is obvtown and has been since d1. ika is as good as cleared based on umlaut's floppy reads. literally pk/tn are the only ones left. i dont understand how yall don't see this.

just lynch me and get this irritating game over with.

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holy shit do you even know the fucking definition of AtE??? jesus...

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apply it right or stfu because you're making yourself look really stupid right now.

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right. i haven't contributed anything.

ok. i honestly dont know why i play anymore.

p-edit: lmao no that is not what AtE is but ok. go on misusing buzzwords because you think it will help you get your last mislynch in.

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i never once asked for anyone's sympathy. ika asked why i haven't been around, i answered. plain and simple. please don't sign up for any games with me anymore, pk. honest request.

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i really do need to go now, i have to work in the morning.

i apologize if i haven't been around enough to be useful. pk can go die in a hole i dont care if he's scum, being a dick is unwarranted.

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gg

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yes that's game.

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sorry yall

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so it was you and tn then?

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celebrating that you helped lose the game? nice dude.

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it's pk. he's just being an ass about it.

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anyway. not really a good game but whatever. it was a shit show from the start. three mislynches in a row and that shitty vig n1. no more blitz games for me.

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I don't think tn was town dice

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Blitz will never have the caliber of players the game of mafia deserves, and will consistently attract EM-type players. No, not all of them are like that, but the majority are, if the Blitz games I've played are any indication. It is not a game-type I'll be playing again. Taking a game seriously and having fun are not mutually exclusive ideas, and I don't have fun when people deliberately and intentionally throw their games because "lolblitz".

TN was a cool partner and several town players did well. I probably should have opted out of this one when the pre-ins were announced, but since Rob helped me out by replacing into my game, I stuck it through. I think if I'd had more time to devote to the game we might have been able to do better. Jeanne certainly needs a lot of work in terms of understanding how games are played here and what is and isn't scummy. A lot of better ideas/options only occurred to me after that fact. I don't begrudge town their win at all.

There are several players I'd like to advise on being better communicators and learning how to interact with people without being assholes, but I'm pretty sure all that falls on deaf ears, and I think I'm done with playing mafia for a while anyway. It's not fun anymore and a lot of the players I seem to run into are just dicks. Not worth the head ache.

Congrats town.

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Because my experience has taught me that nobody cares what I think about how they play and they will play the way they want to regardless of my comments.

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Ika I've already tried to have a conversation with you specifically and it ended with you saying "idgaf", so...

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Not at all. I enjoy playing with you and I've found that you try to do your best. That's admirable and the kind of player I look for when deciding what games to play.

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I don't know why it didn't quote what I wanted, but this:

Not at all. I enjoy playing with you and I've found that you try to do your best. That's admirable and the kind of player I look for when deciding what games to play.

was in response to this:

etl you played fantastic. I hope I wasn't one of the ones to sway you from this sort of game.

Anyway I don't have anything more to say, other than

Rob did an excellent job, as always.

I found nothing lacking in his modding besides forgetting to unlock the thread, but since it was at like 3 am, I imagine it went something like - alarm goes off to remind Rob to open thread, he does the things, half asleep while squinting at the brightness of his phone, then goes right back to bed because he has class in the morning.

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It was not regarding any game in particular. It was over site chat. We were discussing the changes in your play and I was asking what was going on with you, and explaining how I felt about what's changed, and the type of playstyle you've adopted. I gave you very specific details that I felt you could use to improve and ways that would make games with you more enjoyable, and you basically told me I was wasting my breath because you were going to do whatever the fuck you wanted.

It's seriously not important anymore. I'm not going to play for a while as I'm too busy with school and if/when I do play, I'll likely be avoiding players I don't enjoy playing with as much as possible.