Blitz 8: U-Pick Villians - game over

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Use your imagination.

I'm sure you could find a use for any role (hint: roles are usually better if used on town/scum reads!)

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http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... sal_Backup

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BIG SHOUTY FONT

WHY DOES A BACKUP NOT TAKE AN ACTION

I will keep quoting this post until people answer but it will likely be ignored and you'll go into tomorrow and blame us for you mislynching us!

ohno im fearmongering

I'm waiting, mollie

Shouting I'm scum over and over again doesn't magically make my role pm red, btw

pedit-
Except I quoted a post literally right after that of bk posting in d2

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Oh, I'm sorry

A role titled backup PR

Do you happen to know what PR stands for?

Power role

so do tell

Please teach me to be good at this game

Do I have to call people and pretend they're lying and not vote them to win?

mollie's lying she's not actually in NC she's in wyoming

she must be scum

2g

pedit-
Please tell me more about how something titled "Backup PR" isn't the same as a universal backup

Please teach me to be good at this game

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Hello pot this is kettle

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Oh I see your wife ms pan is coming up with another incisive post about how I'm lying scum!

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Show me an instance where a town-backup could chose what role he picked up.

Unless you think there's a mysterious PR role that's yet to flip or be claimed?

pedit-

Sure!

pedit-

Oh trust me, the feeling's mutual.

But you and mollie can't both be scum

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Where was this?

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But it doesn't say selective in the pm so it clearly isn't just like it's clearly not a day action!

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because that still doesn't explain how we got motivated

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Now now mollie

I was promised to go down in a blaze of supersaint glory

And I expect that promise to be fulfilled

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Well I suppose that would just add more credence to your argument then?

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mollie, at least let me pick the way I go out.

Please.

It's all I ask.

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If I say pretty please will you at least make me a vengeful?

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Also if I could have self-hammered and governed I would have done so! but I wasn't really in a mindstate about this game and needed time to immerse and I'm immersed and I know who I want dead!

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Note I cant actually govern a selfhammer but I probably wouldnt have let mala hammer there because I wasn't able to take a definitive stance but now I do!

Anoris is the last scumzor

My dying wish is you purge him with fire tomorrow.

And realize when I'm telling you your read is emotionally compromised it is.

tia!

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pisskop and xtox

my brave lieutenants

I leave you with this task

Pignash, my loyal private

please jailkeep one "anoris" and end this shit.

Tia!

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Actually she just proved we werent lying. I didn't have two 1shots to use in N2. I only had one. My abilities didn't magically double. So again was motivated, but out of abilities in order to use the motivation the correct way.

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Yaaaay kinda sorta a happy maLa. One of my two paychecks went in as direct deposit just hasn't cleared. :happydance:.

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Hiya mollie

We claimed a cop

a doc

and one more thing

Now what could that last thing have been

I wonder what a popular topic of discussion has been

Some form of politician...

Something that can override a lynch..

hmm.

VOTE: anoris

choo choooooooooooooooo

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Actually she just proved we werent lying. I didn't have two 1shots to use in N2. I only had one. My abilities didn't magically double. So again was motivated, but out of abilities in order to use the motivation the correct way.

no it proves you are lying cos are saying that you are joat with a cop ability, a doc ability and something else.

No it doesn't.

I have three actions:

Two which are night; one which is day time. I used the cop N1. Which made me only have the doc action to use N2. The govern is a day ability.

So please point out the lie.

I didn't have another additional cop shot to use; nor did I get a second doc shot.

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can we end the day?
i want a falcon lynch, but mala is fine enough.

what did gorky claim again?

Pls tell me your trolling. Again if Adonis isn't scum I'm pretty sure you are since I really don't understand why you keep trolling and yet Mollie is giving you a pass for all of it

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You're trolling because you are aware of what everyone claimed. It's not the matter of saying things that please me. You're acting dumb.

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Can you admit that you are wrong and that maybe I know my own role and discussion with the mod better than you do because well it's because we were in constant discussion about what could and couldn't have been used in N2...?

I couldn't use the cop because i no longer had the shot because it was used up.
I could only use the doc which was one-shot.
The govern isn't a night ability so it couldn't have been used.

stop calling us liars when you don't even know our role.

I mean step back, reread the game, the motivations of everything. I mean surely you can step back and stop letting your emotions play in. I know you can; you have before.

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the mod seriously confirmed that she doesn't double 1-shots. SO HOW COULD I PERFORM TWO ACTIONS WHEN I ONLY HAD ONE AVAILABLE NIGHT ACTIONS.

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again it was ongoing and i was refusing to comprise the game.

You can't make any hints to a game that's ongoing even if i'm dead.

Plus I knew spoilers so I was very aware that titus was scum because I was pretty ragey in deadPT about being viggd when i caught all three scum before i died.

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Whatever.

I'm really kind of sick of this game.

Mollie not stepping back and admitting she might be wrong, when the mod just confirmed that my shots weren't doubled.
The fact everyone's willing to lynch me when I just gave you scum in D2.

I mean come on people. Open your eyes and realize that I'm town and let's lynch the last scum, kay?

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theres a difference between directly acknowledging the game and you actually directly knowing that i know your towngame.
the act of you PUSHING me for that.
is scummy as fuck.

You based off a crappy meta read on me based on one scum game of mine from TM and one game that I replaced into. I have way more games under my belt than those two.
But you referenced team mafia when pushing me.

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ya'know what i'm just going to say fuck this.

Deal with notty for the rest of the game.

So done with the constant scum read // drop read // on again scum read crap

Just lynch me.

Then you know the following:

- I was a three shot JoaT (cop,doc, govern)
- I was motivated N2.
- I'm seriously doubting both aronis/pisskop claims.
- Mollie is town, but stubborn as fuck. So please don't lynch her.
- Xtomx is confirmed town. Piggy is probably town; along with PereV.

Enjoy my last reads because I'm done with this game. I'm done with the frustration. I'm done with the bullshit. I'm pretty much done with everything.

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More things with my claim:

- I can't self-govern. So if you lynch me I can't stop it.
- I didn't have a 'second' shot to use N2 after I got motivated.

Pisskop / PereV is lying because I was motivated via wording of the PM's. So one of those claims are fish-y as fuck.

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Actually she just proved we werent lying. I didn't have two 1shots to use in N2. I only had one. My abilities didn't magically double. So again was motivated, but out of abilities in order to use the motivation the correct way.

no it proves you are lying cos are saying that you are joat with a cop ability, a doc ability and something else.

No it doesn't.

I have three actions

:

Two which are night; one which is day time. I used the cop N1. Which made me only have the doc action to use N2. The govern is a day ability.

So please point out the lie.

I didn't have another additional cop shot to use; nor did I get a second doc shot.

joat claim

I give up

Read the next fucking line

Jesus

I can't wait to sit in the dead thread and watch you piss away town's win and pretend like it's our fault

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Actually she just proved we werent lying. I didn't have two 1shots to use in N2. I only had one. My abilities didn't magically double. So again was motivated, but out of abilities in order to use the motivation the correct way.

no it proves you are lying cos are saying that you are joat with a cop ability, a doc ability and something else.

No it doesn't.

I have three actions

:

Two which are night; one which is day time.

I used the cop N1. Which made me only have the doc action to use N2. The govern is a day ability.

So please point out the lie.

I didn't have another additional cop shot to use; nor did I get a second doc shot.

joat claim

I give up

Enlarged for emphasis.

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PIGNASH MY DEAREST PRIVATE

Please promise me you will target one user named (Anoris) tonight so when there's a nokill tomorrow I can see what bullshit idea they push to not lynch him!

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what the fuck we are not lynching aronis

Are you sure?

He looks like he's the leading wagon

Womp womp

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Xtox

My dear lieutenant

Would you do the esteemed pleasure of sending us into postgame

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Wrong.

That's me.

Showing you IN BIG FONT where you are intentionally nitpicking and misrepping posts.

For example, THAT VERY QUOTE mentions we have 2 night actions and 1 day action, which are our 3 joat actions

But you for some reason keep asking what our third action is?

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But it doesn't matter because you can scream and kick all you want, but we aren't getting lynched today!

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And that's why you aren't moving up in rank.

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There's a reason you're only a private.

pedit-

It's for the militia.

Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

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xtox drop the hammer.

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Anoris is the last scumzor

lol

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That wasn't even a personal attack are you fucking kidding me

You're making me out to be a villain (heh) when all I've fucking done since I've been here is stand up for myself

Maybe I've been a bit snarky but you're making it out like I am making every single post with the intention of malice and that's just wrong, so back off. I tried to be cordial and got ignored, now I'm standing up for myself and getting shit on. So.

Mala thinks PV/pisskop are scumm because she thinks one of them is lying.

I think Anoris is scum because I'm a special snowflake!

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When was I attacking you?

You've just spent literally the entire time I've been here going on and on about how I'm lying and playing the victim.

So maybe, no, you didn't wish death on my family or something, but you've been stupidly tunnelly and I've been on the defensive since I even fucking got here because you yelled at me for not stopping Mala frm attacking you when it's been going both ways between the two of you.

So I'm a little bit fed up with it all.

And then you accuse me of "shitty attacks" which is just blatantly 'what' while you push how we can't possibly be what we claim because it does not fit into what oyu've said when farside has literally verified in thread in response to YOUR question that it would work like we said it did, that we have some hidden last ability that we didn't claim, that we're lying about being a joat, and I'm just sick of it.

Literally every post you have made regarding our slot since I have gotten back is

"They are lying"

"Mala's being a fucking brat"

"I am the victim here"

And it's frustrating because you're sitting there lashing out at me when I've been trying to work with you since I've got here- not because I did anything, but because I wasn't around to leash Mala, because I believed her when she said she was done and she kept getting baited back into things? How you're only really "talking" to me so I can't say you aren't? Like come the fuck on. And then we have instances of you not even reading my posts or citing posts saying I've ignored them when I've responded to them and then you are mixing up me+mala when you should be able to tell the difference and it's fucking exhausting.

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And a read can be emotionally compromised when there isn't an emotional component to it.

If you weren't, you would have realized I'm town by now.

/discussion.

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Okay

Hi Mollie!

So, in all honesty, most of my townread on anoris was liking him this game compared to normally I feel like he's someone I butt heaads with and most of what I remember from him this game was that pagetop thing and then I went to look at where the flipped scum are and he had both scum as confident/null scumreads. That originally made me think twice but I wanted to look through his games because I don't remember him fixating on pagetops last time we played together and flipping through some games, I saw his blitz SK game where he had a page top or two, he did have a town one with a few page tops, and hten I found a scum one w/ both the pagetop obsession and guess where he had put his buddy that game? his confident scumreads.

Anyways I will link these games!

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go <--- blitz sk game

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go <--- Zodiac game, he had like 5 pagetops

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=62705 <--- Luck game, he only had a few posts but none of them were pagetops

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=62652 <--- Fakeclaim upick, non pagetops

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=61714 <--- kids with guns, no pagetops, short iso

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6794695 <--- Scumgame! Short ISO, something I noted is that he voted his partner in RVS. No pagetops.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go <--- Town, no pagetops

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go <--- Scum! His strongest scumread was his buddy! There were a few pagetops early.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=60789 <--- Scumgame! Fixation of pagetops and talking about them/getting them (Just a ctrl F of his iso has 13 results, in a 17 page game. He didn't mention his buddy at all.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go <--- Team mafia! Fairly long ISO, 6 pagetops with no real buildup (He was town)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6594054 <--- No pagetops! Town.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go <--- Town, no fixation

K So I'm done listing towngames, but I'm going to look at scumgames to see where he puts his buddies.

The point of what I've linked so far is the only game where he showed such a severe fixation on pagetops is a mafia game thus far.

In his ISO from this game it comes up 14 times. Admittedly like 4 of them are quoted from someone else, but he got into arguments about the pagetops and it looks like trying to start extraneous conversations.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go <--- Rick Santorum scumgame. He had two buddies, Bert/Marq. He never really had a solid read on bert until later on when he was calling him town. Marquis who he was scumreading ubt it wasn't all out tunneling.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6504633 <--- Dolphin mafia, buddy was in his scumteam all game

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6232068 <--- 2012 Primary mafia, his buddy was his one scumread

Anyways, I'll get more later tonight but look-

We have a fixation on pagetops which I only found in a scumgame. We have him bussing in all of his scumgames but one.

So, yeah.

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lemme discuss it with hippy, he has aronis as super strong town. I have seen some glimmers and there were a cple of spots I thought he looked really town, I think it was when he was asking pple what shld he do. scum don't usually do that.

where are you guys at with pisskop?

I mean I still stand by what I've said

He could maybe be a maf vig or something but like I said we were motivated after fb died and this is the first time I've seen a motivator (at leas that Ican remember) but I feel like they'd alert you on the night they used an ability?

Mala thinks he's lying because we got motivated/PV is lying because he said te backup went nowhere which I can see maybe being a bit sketch because hey, he's a backup and I don't understand why you wouldn't take an action if you just got one.

Also idk I need to check back but did piggy claim who he was going to jail yesterday? Because if not I feel like xtox came in and verified he was JK'd. I'll go check after I post this.

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at least I think thats why she thinks pv is lying

thats why i think hes lying at least

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Also xtox needs to claim so we know if he can confirm both the jk/neighborize aspects of pig's claim

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My flavor is probably bombs with nuclear fire flavor, not bullets. Im not a vig. Im a perma-pgo.

This is the story you are sticking with?

I wanted to go back and check to see if there was anything from pv prior to his claim that could have verified his action

this was today but it's a really weird discrepancy to call out which means that regardless of alignment PV has targetted pisskop.

Pisskop, if scum, had no reason to target FB though, because just looking back through his reads unless it was a fear kill, FB was townreading him/said no to voting yakko on D1, whereas a better kill would have been aronis who was scumreading 2/3 of them and townreading pisskop.

Looking back though of ranger's scumreads that haven't flipped I'm the only one left and I know I'm town . The next tier up had pv/anoris and I think piggy was around there somewhere but hm

Anyways have to do errands bbl

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he claimed hated :/

then how the fuck can he verify the JK part of the claim

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We were.

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oh, so can i post now ??

>.>

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Anyways, the govern thing was an accident. We wanted to lynch Aronis. I stopped posting in thread after I made that post last Day since I'm pretty fed up, but I have been following/reading along even though I been silent.

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Pisskop,

we are like in the best position so please bitch less.

Aronis is prob scum, yes notty fucked up and governed it, but that's okay. We are still going to win no matter what.

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IDK he said he was asking PM's and meant to say govern Glork, but typed Aronis accidentally.

I asked him in txts right after the Day ended. So I was just as confused as everyone else.

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oh, so can i post now ??

>.>

in case any1 is wondering this is the passive aggressive stuff I was talking about.

perv, gorky is correct, if you are a delayed tracker you slipped.

Whatever. You are going to single-handly blame me for fucking the game up when I didn't.

I'm not getting into a shitfight with you again.

The drama needs to end.

I'm done with it.

Everytime I post you find something wrong with it.

Every.
Single.
Time.

Again, the Ika game where ika modded. We played together civil there and you actually acted happy to play with me. So I really don't understand what went wrong with this game, I really, really don't.

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Why'd you get results N1?

Oh my god. Really. ._.

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Yeah glork I'm not seeing the lie other than the N1 action

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PereV why'd it take you so long to figure out you were delayed /:

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No no what I'm saying PereV you should have known you were Delayed going into D2 rather than today since two things: 1. You wouldn't have received a Pm from Farside Day 2.
day 3 you would have at least gotten a PM saying pisskop went no where.

So the question is why'd it take you so long to figure this out =\

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Yeah not really feeling scum as much as Aronis.

VOTE: Aronis

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We just had N3.

Still not seeing it gork.

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Yep because we already covered all the logical ground that I'm town, but by all means please continue to call me scum because I adore the fuck that even though you are proven wrong you're still willing to hang onto that sticky sticky read!

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Well I'm glad my fingers decided to cut half of the snark out that my brain wanted to say.

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VOTE: PereV

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Eh, I'm snarky in rl too so that's actually telling me to not be myself and fake on a forum just because something being recorded, so yeah no thanks.

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Eh, I'm snarky in rl too so that's actually telling me to not be myself and fake on a forum just because something being recorded, so yeah no thanks.

if you are snarky IRL then that is probably an insecurity that you shld address considering snark is a defense mechanism.

eta: you too perv

-.-

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VOTE: Aronis

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btw either aronis or us was getting lynched the final day

:>

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Also I submitted the govern because I didn't realize it would override it if he was lynched, I thought it just overrode other lynches onto who I said.

Oops.

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Also the aronis as IC levels of town was a joke running on from earlier in the game but looking at who led the wagon is fun!

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Also, farside

How did all the roles work?

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I also salute my loyal countrymen.