Blitz 8: U-Pick Villians - game over

[PeregrineV]

Hello everybody!!

I don't play many upicks, do we talk about them?

[PeregrineV]

murderboners

[PeregrineV]

It's a blitz game.

[PeregrineV]

Ika, want to town bloc with me?
Just you and me for now.

you can't make a town bloc without me

anyway someone call me scum so i can omgus

I'm here for you. I think your scum.

Vote: XTomX

[PeregrineV]

My choice for scumteam:

ika
Hippy Love
Xtoxm

that leaves everyone else as town.

[PeregrineV]

My choice for scumteam:

ika
Hippy Love
Xtoxm

that leaves everyone else as town.

you do realize you have a 100% scum meta of thinking I am scum on d1 yeah? when you are town you tend to leave me alone cos you know that it will be more than likely that I will be nked early.

@ pisskop

thoughts?

Maybe, except I don't know who you are.

[PeregrineV]

My choice for scumteam:

ika
Hippy Love
Xtoxm

that leaves everyone else as town.

you do realize you have a 100% scum meta of thinking I am scum on d1 yeah? when you are town you tend to leave me alone cos you know that it will be more than likely that I will be nked early.

@ pisskop

thoughts?

Maybe, except I don't know who you are.

then you haven't read the game and are still not reading the game cos pple have been calling me by name.

I read it like I read the angst scenes from the Twilight novels.

Besides, you don't want to be metaed, do you?

[PeregrineV]

PV not reading the game is like a sucm tell for him

PV/percyival are a team i woudl see

See above- I did read.

Not possible for me to be scum with Persuvial.

But, since we on the topic, why is he scum, in your eyes?

[PeregrineV]

CAN I PLZ HAVE 1 STRONG TOWN READ PRETTY PLZ WITH SUGAR ON TOP. TY.

pignash - it's obvious from his first post. He's new, and newbscum would have been quite happy with the me v. FB argument. No way he would have defended me there. 227 and 239 read genuine to me.

I'm leaning town on ika due to meta. In Dating Game he was scum, was lynched on D2, and only had 25 posts in the entire game (and that game had a secondary day phase). ZZZX called that as his scum game. In this game he has almost double that already.

On the scummy side:

Aronis's entrance was bad: 278 - complaining about "bad man" and spelling of his name (seriously); 287 - joining a safe position that was already out there; 297 - concerned about early D1 votes on himself; 300 - pad postcount with "Pagetop"; 315 - proclaims himself town.

Xtox's entrance was bad, but from his join date and post count I take it he's old guard, and old guard like to play like that - i.e. consider themselves above needing to do obvtown stuff early on.

I don't like that FB and yakko still have votes on pignash.

UNVOTE: Firebringer
VOTE: Aronis

I'm padding my postcount by making one, not 5 or 10,

1

pagetop post?

I was willing to grant you the first 4 , but by the 5th one I had to iso you.

It's pretty crap.

You said it best

And it's not like I've posted any content

.

Thoughts?

[PeregrineV]

I read it like I read the angst scenes from the Twilight novels.

alone in the dark without clothes on?

I was thinking how does one read in the dark?

But then, ...ebooks....

So, no, but good guess.

By reading like 3-4 words them moving to the next paragraph.

So who is hippy love?

[PeregrineV]

I read it like I read the angst scenes from the Twilight novels.

Besides, you don't want to be metaed, do you?

there have been about 4 pple who have called me by my name do you mean to tell me that you missed all of them?

@ gork - eww.

eta: persy plz don't be eww too. I still think you are scum tho.

Yes. Who are you or youse guys?

[PeregrineV]

So who is hippy love?

I believe it's hiplop and mollie.

Ahh, I see now.

[PeregrineV]

why is he town in your eyes. i made it clear with others why hes prob scum

You mean this?

to clairfy what i mena by "latched" last game you sepnd much less time focsuing on me and more on everyone/other then you are now.

its slightly confusing that you are. does that make more sense?

pedit: oh.....

pffff ok can we do percy firs tthen?

VOTE: percival

[PeregrineV]

@Gork- you have a complete read list available? Please share.

[PeregrineV]

What are the chances of 2 scum left? I think low, but want to hear other thoughts.

[PeregrineV]

I don't think there would be 2. Do we think Xtoxm is a SK or something though?

I'd expect 3 in a 13 player game.

I've played 13 player games with 3 mafia and an SK, but the lack of a night2 kill I guess either means SK was blocked, or there is no SK.

I which case vig.

Just making sure nobody thinks it's a 9town 4mafia game.

[PeregrineV]

I meant 2 remaining, sorry.

Who are your top 2 picks for the last scum?

[PeregrineV]

vote: peregrine

Your credibility just went to zero (which I may bump back to 1, depending on how things pan out), so good luck with that.

[PeregrineV]

@PereV Gun to my head Hippy or Gork.

Nice.

Still leaning Hippy from the beginning. The best would be to do an ISO with Percival & Yakko & her, and read it as if she were town and as if she were scum, and see which one looks more real.

Gork is still on the list, because of the fact he was on the list at all. But definitely #2 of the 2.

[PeregrineV]

I've played 13 player games with 3 mafia and an SK, but the lack of a night2 kill I guess either means SK was blocked, or there is no SK.

have you read anything?

Sure. Didn't memorize, but I believe each post is numbered, for easy reference.

[PeregrineV]

shhh. hes trying to apply for tge Towncred Grant

I actually run the foundation, so have no problem giving them out.

(OK, a little problem, but less so with only 1 left).

[PeregrineV]

why are you asking this without pushing any reads of your own first?
what are you hoping to get out of this question?
words on this pls.

I'm really waiting for Rogue to come in and announce the final scum, because that would be FRICKING AWESOME!

But, on the chance she does not, I'm trying to refine my own reads.

I was minorly suspicious of Pig early game, but with yakko being scum and his openness today, he's 95% chance town, so what he says has more weight.

And since we are wording, your 2 scumpicks? (Gun optional)

[PeregrineV]

you pointing your finger and just calling me scum for not being town is literally the most demotivating thing you could be doing.
yes, i could be scum that youre demotivating which would be great.
but i could also be town that youre demotivating which would be not great.

Why on earth would you be demotivated at this point in the game?

[PeregrineV]

My flavor is probably bombs with nuclear fire flavor, not bullets. Im not a vig. Im a perma-pgo.

This is the story you are sticking with?

[PeregrineV]

@PereV Gun to my head Hippy or Gork.

Nice.

Still leaning Hippy from the beginning. The best would be to do an ISO with Percival & Yakko & her, and read it as if she were town and as if she were scum, and see which one looks more real.

Gork is still on the list, because of the fact he was on the list at all. But definitely #2 of the 2.

VOTE: perv

so i bussed 1 teammate on d1 after getting into a shitwar with ika and rogue and d2 challenged the most likely cop (if they are fucking scum I am going to be royally pissed) and then voted my other buddy...to what ends?

like srsly what do you think my endgame strategy wld be?

Let's see, yes, you voted Persivul day1. 7 players did so.

aronis (3)

pignash

,

persivul

,

bloodking

Xtoxm (1)

peregrine

Rogue (2)

Xtoxm

, gork
Pignash (1)

bloodking

,
Persivul (7)

aronis

, hippy,

yakko

, pisskop,

rogue

,

ranger, firebringer

Pig is as close to green as you can be while still alive, at this point.
He blocked Xtomx, which means Xtomx did not make the kill.
The way Aronis was pushed & piled on by both Yakko and Persivul gives him strong towncred.
Rogue caught us yakko.

That kind of leaves YOU, pisskop or Gork.

You know, for starters.

[PeregrineV]

why are you asking this without pushing any reads of your own first?
what are you hoping to get out of this question?
words on this pls.

I'm really waiting for Rogue to come in and announce the final scum, because that would be FRICKING AWESOME!

But, on the chance she does not, I'm trying to refine my own reads.

I was minorly suspicious of Pig early game, but with yakko being scum and his openness today,

he's 95% chance town, so what he says has more weight

.

And since we are wording, your 2 scumpicks? (Gun optional)

this looks like blatant buddying cos no way are you this dumb and naive

You think that Pignash is a scum Jailkeeper that jailkept Xtomx (effectively clearing him as town) while simultaneously killing Bloodking?
If you think that, then say so.
If you do not, then what I said is true.

[PeregrineV]

My flavor is probably bombs with nuclear fire flavor, not bullets. Im not a vig. Im a perma-pgo.

This is the story you are sticking with?

Lol @ you pretending to be in control.

Lol that I'm even still here, eh?

Either stop throwing random shade around or vote me like you arent trying to muddy the game.

Don't need a stupid wagon on you if you are town. Willing to wait for Rogue, and proceed from there. Meanwhile, we can all chat, can't we?

[PeregrineV]

if we want to kill two birds with one stone we can use my role to get rid of me and hippy. i doubt im getting to a three person lylo anyway to enact my sick plan.

Do you blow stuff up too?

I think we are on a good path here, unless you can see holes in my thinking, and your kind of #3 on the list, so there is that.

[PeregrineV]

game has suddenly become retarded

why?

[PeregrineV]

game has suddenly become retarded

why?

cos we are not scum like obvsly we are not scum. period. end of story.

games shld never get to lylo when they do it is cos of poor town play and a lack of cohesion.

You do understand that you could be scum and still say this. That's why we bother playing.

[PeregrineV]

Finished Aronis iso. Still conflicted, but a lot more *lack of content* than I expected.

[PeregrineV]

game has suddenly become retarded

why?

cos we are not scum like obvsly we are not scum. period. end of story.

games shld never get to lylo when they do it is cos of poor town play and a lack of cohesion.

You do understand that you could be scum and still say this. That's why we bother playing.

are you fucking being srs.

you do understand that you cld be scum pushing a bad wagon when my play checks out as town, yeah?

I could be, but I'm not. I'm setting the table to catch the last scum. I pointed out who it most likely is, IMO, and have asked for your feedback. (1176 I think).

You play checks out as town after your townflip or the game is over, and you are town. Just like any mafia game.

[PeregrineV]

i feel weird for thinking that pere might be town because i like the way hes playing.

or i guess his attitude is more accurate.

Example of town failing to catch last scum when it was 9 and 1.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=62944

While I'm mostly over it, there is no reason to repeat it.

I've gave reasons why I think the way I think. What do you think about what I think, and what do you think independent of that?

[PeregrineV]

bah humbug.

Gork?
Hippy?
Aronis?
Someone else?


Why not you?

[PeregrineV]

cuz were lynching you. and youre throwing mud everywhere
why not me?

1. I'm not scum.
2. I'm not throwing mud. I'm hunting scum. I understand your method is more of the "Pisskop who cried scum" variety, and that's great for you, but I like the way I play too.
3. It could be you.

[PeregrineV]

I give absolutely zero cares about your sophist arguements.

if you wanted to be town you shoulda been town yesterday and d1.

@falcon

**Google search on "sophist"**

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a paid teacher of philosophy and rhetoric in ancient Greece, associated in popular thought with moral skepticism and specious reasoning.

Aww shucks, thanks!!

I was town day1 and day2. I thought Percy was town, and was probably leaning town on Yakko day1. So, it appears that I did fine on day1 and day2, because they were both lynched.

Now is Wednesday, not the weekend, so I'm here.

And I may still be wrong, but I'm OK with that. That's why I'm talking to people.

[PeregrineV]

how fucking terrible at this game do you think we are????

I don't think you are terrible, generally.
You are, however, acting like you never draw scum roles.
You and I both know that's BS, so why would you fail to acknowledge it?

We were huge proponents for two of our fucking partners deaths if we are scum. IT DIDNT EVEN GIVE US ANY TOWNCRED LIKE WTF.

Do you want towncred?
I don't get why you seem to be upset.

We are both experienced players and one of us is considered one of the best players around.

Yet, here you are voting me instead of talking to me to try to figure out who the last scum might be.

[PeregrineV]

I think we shld mass claim

I would rather wait for Rogue's result first.

[PeregrineV]

we draw scum roles but we don't do things that compromise our chance to win.

okay talk to me pere. if its not you who is it

*sigh*

Iso of Yakko & Percy together.
In town interactions, Percy is combative and questioning as part of his defense. Look at his posts where he talks to ika, bloodking, firebringer, gorkington, (minorly, pisskop)

Then look at how he talks to others (you, yakko, pisskop).

Even when you fos the shit out of him, he doesn't question you. Or really challenge you.
You accuse him of flailing, and he smiles.(868)

His attack/case making on Aronis was the only one he made. Does he go threw that much trouble to bus?

Calls Pig newbtown. Does the questiony thing with him. (872)

[PeregrineV]

FALCON'S ARGUEMENTS ARE POOPOO AND YOU SHOULDN'T BE ENGAGING THAT KTHNX.

Nice Chewbacca defense. Got anything else?

[PeregrineV]

I dont really care if he's town. Towns best move is to lynch from a list. One that pere is one. And not to change their minds because honey is being slathered about.

Stahp. We arent changing our votes, and we arent not lynching him. The best he can hope for is a stay of execution.

Actually, my hope is to lynch scum and close out this game. (and procrastinate on someo work I have in front of me ).

And I enjoy your resistance to working with me. Or working with anyone, really, that does not agree with you.

So, who are your top three again, for the record?

[PeregrineV]

youd have to convince me more for that. xtom how do you know you were jailed?

I jail someone and talk to them in a PT overnight

[PeregrineV]

I agree. But then you dropped the kicker about pignash being town a few posts ago.

pignash is the other logical candidate for scum

Then you think Pignash jailkept Xtom last night and shot Bloodking?

[PeregrineV]

I dont really care if he's town. Towns best move is to lynch from a list. One that pere is one. And not to change their minds because honey is being slathered about.

Stahp. We arent changing our votes, and we arent not lynching him. The best he can hope for is a stay of execution.

Actually, my hope is to lynch scum and close out this game. (and procrastinate on someo work I have in front of me ).

And I enjoy your resistance to working with me. Or working with anyone, really, that does not agree with you.

So, who are your top three again, for the record?

mebbe if you stepped outside your scum pt and actually read the game you wld know!

eta: you are doing selective reading and you also still have a 100% meta of only wanting to lynch me when you are scum

god can we plz lynch perv

I was asking pisskop. He can repeat himself without injury, I'm sure.

Yes, it is called an ISO.

[PeregrineV]

I agree. But then you dropped the kicker about pignash being town a few posts ago.

pignash is the other logical candidate for scum

Then you think Pignash jailkept Xtom last night and shot Bloodking?

okay possibly too dumb to be scum

Is that an answer? They generally take the form of "Yes" or "No", followed by a reason. So us dumb types can understand.

So, Y/N?

[PeregrineV]

hi i'm alive, barely, but alive. (Sick -.-)

So uh, we were only 1-shot so that was our only result. ;-;

We gotta rely on our heads/wits to find the real scum now.

I really don't think the mollie/hippy hydra is scum nor do I think Gork or Pisskop are either so!

Yuck.

[PeregrineV]

we did our job

Yes.

With absolutely no Yakko suspicion, you copped him with your single shot, and caught him.

He, in turn, did not fight it in any way, not to counter you, or anything.

You were also a strong scumread of Ranger when she died.

So, where you to have come in with a clear, much more likely to be happy to call you town.

Instead, you turn out to be 1-shot.

So, who do you think is scum?

[PeregrineV]

Hes hopping up out of nowhere with these silly tactics and we're not townreading him and keeping him alive because he suddenly wants to play. Too bad, had his chance, now were doing it by the books.

Vote: Rogue

Going this way.

If not Rogue, then probably Aronis.

If not him, then pisskop.

[PeregrineV]

LOL

at least you're reading. I mean you weren't present at all for last Day.

I was here post lynch. Not much to say.

[PeregrineV]

Id be willing to put down aronis though

Good start, let's see what happens.

[PeregrineV]

PereV,

remind me what scum!me would have to gain to claim a guilty on my partner in a role-madness game? (esp when we don't know what Yakko JoaT abilities were)

Not very much, but if you think I'm going to go for the "I would never do that as scum." defense, I've seen (and played in) dumber scumteams.

without any AtM, who are your top 2 or 3 scumpicks, and why?

[PeregrineV]

well considering I just said I don't think the following are scum, narrow it down:

Hippylove
Gork
Pisskop
(potentially you)

Because.....

[PeregrineV]

so who hasn't claimed?

hippy
pv
gork

all need to claim immediately. whoever is town out of these pls stop fucking about.

i will obviously go last as im conftown

Hippy Love claimed odd-night commuter. We can assume she commuted night1, but she can confirm or deny if it matters.

[PeregrineV]

I'm leaving work soon, so I'm claiming. I would like to avoid lynching anyone until I get back (maybe tonight, most likely tomorrow).

Alien Queen, Tracker
I pop an egg in you, my baby comes back to tell me where you went.

Night1: Pisskop went nowhere. (and I'm not nuclear dust)

pedit: yeah.....

Night2: Bloodking went nowhere

[PeregrineV]

Srry guys, I'm rlly behind in this. Do I need to claim?

Yes.

[PeregrineV]

ok that makes things add up. fire probably submitted his action first so he ate the nuke.

i think pv is very likrly town due to this claim

it does NOT add up cos perv is saying that pisskop didn't go anywhere on n1 and pisskop is saying that he did!

He didn't say he went anywhere, that I saw. Else I'd already be voting him.

[PeregrineV]

I used my second 1-shot on you hippy.

I want everyone else to full claim before I say what it was. Xtomx can claim after me, but i want aronis to go first.

You gained new stuff since your last fullclaim.

[PeregrineV]

I used my second 1-shot on you hippy.

I want everyone else to full claim before I say what it was. Xtomx can claim after me, but i want aronis to go first.

i didn't actually full claimed when I copped Yakko and gave out the results. I just decided to leave the other two out hoping I could eat the NK or possibly dodge it.

Anyways,

We had 1-shot cop, 1-shot doc & 1-shot govern.

I used the cop on Yakko.
I used the doc on Mollie-hydra.
I still have the govern ability.

I pretty much crumbed the govern ability in thread, along with my actress' name.

Bye. You have zero confirmation that you were anything; you originally claimed you were motivated because of your N1 NA results pm and now suddenly said you had the option to perform 2 actions last night?

bah. if you had that option you would hve claimed that instead of some weaksauce flavor shit. got bent liar.

No, but please try to twist further.

Day 2 I was told I had a guilty on Yakko.
Night 2 I was told I could perform two actions in that night. I clarified whether or not I gained another ability because I was confused because the two abilities I had left (one couldn't be used in the night{gov} and the other was 1-shot) so I thought maybe I could double down or got the cop action back, but that wasn't true.

So yes the wording pretty much said "hey guys you were motivated so enjoy being able to use two actions that you don't fucking have"

According to you, you were motivated n- giving you 2 shots on night 2, the one that just passed. But in your supplemental claim, you only had one shot, which you used to protect Hippy Love. Now you had 2 doc shots last night. Who was your second protect last night?
If you are town, berating another player for your being lynched sure seems pretty shitty, considering there is a good chance you will win anyway. You could always talk about it post- game. While celebrating your vicotry over scum.

[PeregrineV]

perev

I didn't have two shots of doc to use.

it was a ONE SHOT

So Farside said " you have been motivated, and can perform an extra action night2" presumably at the start of day2. " you said "great, I'll protect 2 people."
Farside said " no, your not THAT motivated."

Is this summRy correct?

[PeregrineV]

UNVOTE: rogue

No self hammer range.

[PeregrineV]

Let's go with the benefit of the doubt.

Since Rogue has no more night abilities, Pginash can Jailkeep her if needed. That will clear or condemn her.

Vote: Aronis

If you have a 1-shot lightning rod, what was your reason for not trying to absorb the kill from the claimed (and effective) cop last night?

[PeregrineV]

hey aronis, y u no use you global ability with 8 town n 1 scum?

yes please aronis

I'm a 1s Lightning Rod. I can pick some1 and any actions that would target them would be redirected to me. And I haven't used my ability.

<insert comment about you should read the thread, but with lots more snark than just that>

[PeregrineV]

this is what we have so far:

rogue is claiming to have been motivated
fire the motivator died by being blown up n1
pisskop is claiming pgo which wld mean fire targeted him. presumably at night.
rogue says they were motivated

if fire motivated pisskop during the day and it was death by pgo, wldn't that reflect in the day end post? gorky brought this up.

it doesn't make sense for fire to be a day motivator. unless far held off on fire's flip for some reason? this is the only way that rogue and pisskop can both be town. but why say he died n1.

the logical conclusion to be drawn from this is that pisskop is lying and chose to blow up fire...for some strange reason, mebbe he thought fire was obvstown due to persy interactions so why are rogue pushing a wagon on aronis.

it doesn't make sense.

It's not too hard to guess what might have happened.

If Aronis is a redirector, he can accomplish what his claim is saying by redirecting actions to himself.
He can also redirect actions from player to player.
All he had to do is re-direct actions to me to Firebringer instead, maybe with the thought that I would be vigged and they could kill Firebringer instead.
Then, when I would have blown up, assuming pisskop is what he says, Firebringer blows up instead.

Redirector is not a common role, but in a game with lots of town night actions, like we seem to have available, it makes more sense.

If Aronis is town, and Rogue is blocked, we can lynch pisskop tomorrow.

[PeregrineV]

How would a passive bomb get redirected?

Actions on a player are redirected to another player.

If I would have been blown up, that action goes to the new target instead.

My main point is that seems to be likely given
1. Your claim
2. Rogue's claim
3. Aronis' claim

[PeregrineV]

We arent wasting lynches on me when I have been nothing but townread this entire game.

You know that being townread is not the same as town.

Being townread means you might be slightly less ignored by town. All other benefits are strictly imaginary.

[PeregrineV]

It's not too hard to guess what might have happened.

If Aronis is a redirector, he can accomplish what his claim is saying by redirecting actions to himself.
He can also redirect actions from player to player.
All he had to do is re-direct actions to me to Firebringer instead, maybe with the thought that I would be vigged and they could kill Firebringer instead.
Then, when I would have blown up, assuming pisskop is what he says, Firebringer blows up instead.

Redirector is not a common role, but in a game with lots of town night actions, like we seem to have available, it makes more sense.

If Aronis is town, and Rogue is blocked, we can lynch pisskop tomorrow.

perv, it really bothers me that you are not paying attention

aronis is not a redirector he is a 1 shot lightning rod and only redirect all night actions on himself. once. he can't redirect other players.

he has also said that he has not used it yet.

If he was a scum redirector, would his claim be within his power to achieve, if required to do so?

Yes, and that lack of use given what we believed to be true going into night2 is a strike against him.

[PeregrineV]

Monday post. Catching up later today.

[PeregrineV]

Who was interrogated last night.
Be conftown now please.

We were.

I suppose I can accept this, unless counterclaimed by someone else.

Why did you govern Aronis?

[PeregrineV]

I'm leaving work soon, so I'm claiming. I would like to avoid lynching anyone until I get back (maybe tonight, most likely tomorrow).

Alien Queen, Tracker
I pop an egg in you, my baby comes back to tell me where you went.

Night1: Pisskop went nowhere. (and I'm not nuclear dust)

pedit: yeah.....

Night2: Bloodking went nowhere

Correction to the above.

Turns out I'm a delayed tracker, and get the result the next night.

Night1: Pisskop went nowhere.
Night2: Bloodking visited Rogue
Night3: Revealed tonight

[PeregrineV]

Also if Aronis doesn't use his ability tonight then we lynch him tomorrow.
No questions asked.
And if he flips town he's a dumby for playing against his wincon.
And then we lynch me and take someone with me.

Fucking easy.

Which begs the question again, why did he not use it last night?

[PeregrineV]

I'm so fucking sick of mafia man.
Fuck.
This game fucking sucks.
I hate the way people play it.

I hate the way pple play it too.

I hate the fact that i catch scum and my reward is that I scumread cos pple don't understand how I do it.

I hate the fact that rogue up the previous day round in my opinion and I don't know what to think of them.

I hate the fact that I don't know what else to do but ridicule our wagon cos it is embarrassing to watch pple get super duper derpy when town are in a sweet spot.

there are a lot of things i hate about mafia when I am in the throes of the game. so you are not alone in that.

Percentage wise, how many of your posts involve you trying NOT to be lynched?
How many of them are scumhunting?

Believe it or not, your desire to NOT be lynched makes me want to lynch you all the more.

[PeregrineV]

were roping persi tomorrow, aron today.

Spoken like a true

PGO

1shot PGO

1shot PGO but not for the player that visits him

mafia player.

[PeregrineV]

I want to hear from Rogue about why Aronis was governed.

[PeregrineV]

Anyways, the govern thing was an accident. We wanted to lynch Aronis. I stopped posting in thread after I made that post last Day since I'm pretty fed up, but I have been following/reading along even though I been silent.

How do you accidentally send a PM to the mod to Govern a player that has been lynched?

[PeregrineV]

I think we just won.
I think Pere slipped.

Do tell.

[PeregrineV]

yes notty fucked up and governed it, but that's okay.

Why?

[PeregrineV]

Vote: Aronis

[PeregrineV]

Why.
Did.
You.
Get.
Results.
N2.
If.
You're.
Delayed.
Do tell.

I get the results the next night. That does not stop me from tracking the same night I get results for the prior night. (which come at the end of the night, not the beginning)

[PeregrineV]

Pere is online. I don't know why he can't answer a simple question.

I think I did. If you mean immediately, it's because I'm multi-tasking.

[PeregrineV]

i wouldn't be surprised if aronis' rule is just scum redirector

If you believe that, why are you voting me at all?

[PeregrineV]

What are the chances of 2 scum left? I think low, but want to hear other thoughts.

[PeregrineV]

Youre going to die today or tomorrow. I dont care which

You'll live to the endgame, of that I have no doubt.

[PeregrineV]

Why'd you get results N1?

You would have new results today if you weren't lying.

I'm leaving work soon, so I'm claiming. I would like to avoid lynching anyone until I get back (maybe tonight, most likely tomorrow).

Alien Queen, Tracker
I pop an egg in you, my baby comes back to tell me where you went.

Night1: Pisskop went nowhere. (and I'm not nuclear dust)

pedit: yeah.....

Night2: Bloodking went nowhere

Correction to the above.

Turns out I'm a delayed tracker, and get the result the next night.

Night1 (tracked pisskop): Pisskop went nowhere (received night2).
Night2 (tracked Bloodking): Bloodking visited Rogue (received night3)
Night3 (tracked XXXX): Revealed tonight

I guess I was unclear in my correction. Does this help?

[PeregrineV]

PereV why'd it take you so long to figure out you were delayed /:

I wasn't paying as much attention, and I kind of missed day2. When I came back in day3, I had a pisskop (and I thought bloodking result), but by that time pisskop the PGO claimed, and then it was on.

[PeregrineV]

No no what I'm saying PereV you should have known you were Delayed going into D2 rather than today since two things: 1. You wouldn't have received a Pm from Farside Day 2.
day 3 you would have at least gotten a PM saying pisskop went no where.

So the question is why'd it take you so long to figure this out =\

Not paying as close attention/short day2/alive after visiting PGO/Pignash jailkeeping/etc.

[PeregrineV]

No no what I'm saying PereV you should have known you were Delayed going into D2 rather than today since two things: 1. You wouldn't have received a Pm from Farside Day 2.
day 3 you would have at least gotten a PM saying pisskop went no where.

So the question is why'd it take you so long to figure this out =\

But, since all it does is probably mean that Bloodking motivated you as you claimed, I don't feel bad about getting it wrong yesterday. Still annoyed and frankly incredulous that you governed Aronis.

[PeregrineV]

oh god can we lynch perv already

perv you wld have known that your results were delayed on d2 when you didn't get results from n1. and if you noticed that then it wld be something you shld have told us.

eta: rogue what are you doing

You'll get over it, I'm sure.

[PeregrineV]

Rogue are you serious? How is Pere not confirmed scum? There's no way he would know that Blood had targeted you on N2 during D3.

If I were confirmed scum I would be dead from pisskop.

Rogue could be lying and was instead given a nightmare by Bloodking, but from her posts and farside's response, she was motivated.

That was obvious without my result( or lack thereof).

Hippy is still freaking out about it, which makes little to no sense from a town view.

Aronis, for the 2nd night in a row, failed to protect the claimed investigative PR (Pignash).

But, hey, you can always save you bomb for me in lylo, ya know.

[PeregrineV]

Pere. Last chance. Why did you have results for Blood on D3.

I didn't, I merely thought I did. I got those this (game)morning.

[PeregrineV]

Pere. Why did you have the RESULT
on Blood
If you're delayed.
Stop dancing around it.

I didn't, I merely thought I did. I got those this (game)morning.

[PeregrineV]

Well I'm glad my fingers decided to cut half of the snark out that my brain wanted to say.

You should mostly avoid snark in a game format were your words are basically recorded history for all time. I know I find it hard sometimes, but at that point we hope it is lost in the world of information overload.

[PeregrineV]

VOTE: PereV

whatever vote us I'm done

[PeregrineV]

Eh, I'm snarky in rl too so that's actually telling me to not be myself and fake on a forum just because something being recorded, so yeah no thanks.

Yeah, it's all the same, really, isn't it?

[PeregrineV]

Eh, I'm snarky in rl too so that's actually telling me to not be myself and fake on a forum just because something being recorded, so yeah no thanks.

if you are snarky IRL then that is probably an insecurity that you shld address considering snark is a defense mechanism.

eta: you too perv

I grew out of it at about when I turned 25 or so. Didn't need my kids to be acting like that. I was a teenage ass, at times.

[PeregrineV]

I'm sad and broken that you lynched my dear Mr. J
I don't know if you deserve my funny today.

*sniff*


Someone has been a bad boy during the night. There is a body found and he was shot up.
The black goon is really just gross.




Well Venom served his maker that's for sure. No more spindy to hunt down for him.

Bloodking - - Venom - town Back PR - shot night 2

I'm leaving work soon, so I'm claiming. I would like to avoid lynching anyone until I get back (maybe tonight, most likely tomorrow).

Alien Queen, Tracker
I pop an egg in you, my baby comes back to tell me where you went.

Night1: Pisskop went nowhere. (and I'm not nuclear dust)

pedit: yeah.....

Night2: Bloodking went nowhere[/quote


No gorky, you get back on the wagon. Think about

what

? How he visited Bloodking night 2, claimed that on day 3, but as a delayed tracker wouldn't know that until day 4?

Yeah, Gorky, how did I visit the PGO and live?

but Seriously, why did Aronis fail to optimally use his role twice?

[PeregrineV]

Did Pere not claim that Blood targeted Rogue at some point during D3?

I was informed, when today started, that Bloodking targeted Rogue on night2. Either she got a nightmare, or was motivated, or his Backup power was something else.

[PeregrineV]

what the fuck is going on

is peregrinev the worst town player ever or scum I don't get it

WHY IS IT THAT EVERYTIME I'M THE WORST TOWN PLAYER I GET CALLED SCUM?

[PeregrineV]

I still can't believe this is cheetos and will probably have a good cry about it later.

perv is still scum but I am going to keep spamming this until it stops hurting!

I'm not, but if everyone else can't be assed to scumhunt, I would feel kind of stupid doing it on my own.

[PeregrineV]

We are lynching him. Drop you cocks, grab your socks boys.

[PeregrineV]

I figured the implication was that your role was a load of shit. Not as sure if you didn't actually claim the results you're claiming now during D3.

No, my role is as stated. Which led me to try to figure, is pisskop lying town, or lying scum?

Jury is still out on that, because there are worse scum in the game. (Aronis)

Plus, I kind of, rightly or wrongly, do not think that Farside gives scum an additional kill in a 13 player game.

Making pisskop most likely dumb town.

[PeregrineV]

so pisskop isn't a pgo

Then how did Firebringer die?

[PeregrineV]

peregrine, half of this hydra believes you.

you didn't die from visiting piss, that means hes lying, correct? you're not wrong about anything else you've said?

He could be telling the truth.

Note this post-

this is what we have so far:

rogue is claiming to have been motivated
fire the motivator died by being blown up n1
pisskop is claiming pgo which wld mean fire targeted him. presumably at night.
rogue says they were motivated

if fire motivated pisskop during the day and it was death by pgo, wldn't that reflect in the day end post? gorky brought this up.

it doesn't make sense for fire to be a day motivator. unless far held off on fire's flip for some reason? this is the only way that rogue and pisskop can both be town. but why say he died n1.

the logical conclusion to be drawn from this is that pisskop is lying and chose to blow up fire...for some strange reason, mebbe he thought fire was obvstown due to persy interactions so why are rogue pushing a wagon on aronis.

it doesn't make sense.

It's not too hard to guess what might have happened.

If Aronis is a redirector, he can accomplish what his claim is saying by redirecting actions to himself.
He can also redirect actions from player to player.
All he had to do is re-direct actions to me to Firebringer instead, maybe with the thought that I would be vigged and they could kill Firebringer instead.
Then, when I would have blown up, assuming pisskop is what he says, Firebringer blows up instead.

Redirector is not a common role, but in a game with lots of town night actions, like we seem to have available, it makes more sense.

If Aronis is town, and Rogue is blocked, we can lynch pisskop tomorrow.

[PeregrineV]

so pisskop isn't a pgo

No, Im guy with a spare nuke. 1 person, the first person, to visit me dies.

So, it was all up to the NAR? And motivator goes before tracker?

[PeregrineV]

Him being a delayed tracker would explain why Firebringer died over him on N1.

I thought about that. The action of tracking happens night1, even if I get the result night2. I didn't check with Farside, because it doesn't make a difference, but we either both should have died, or something affected the results. Or he is scum with an extra kill (but I mentioned my belief in the low likelihood of that).

[PeregrineV]

so pisskop isn't a pgo

No, Im guy with a spare nuke. 1 person, the first person, to visit me dies.

So, it was all up to the NAR? And motivator goes before tracker?

this is weird.

Scum could have a PGO. I wouldn't doubt it. Town is strong

Not BP strong. There does not currently seem to be a town power that could counteract being killed. An extra scumkill would not be balanced, given all that we know now, IMO.

[PeregrineV]

What if Pere is just bad town? Why does scum Pere change his tune on what his results were?

Scum Pere confirms Pignash visited Rogue.

[PeregrineV]

everyone except hippy/aronis (and gork) is conftown by roles.

we chainlynch them.

enough bickering.

start with Aronis. Vote him.

[PeregrineV]

What if Pere is just bad town? Why does scum Pere change his tune on what his results were?

Scum Pere confirms Pignash visited Rogue.

why the fuck are we not lynching this

perv btw I really like you

I am sorry that so many of our games have turned to shit.

We just have different styles that make us clash.

With that said, I get you want to lynch me, but would like to hear from both of you why Aronis is town, and why he failed to protect Rogue or Pignash.

[PeregrineV]

And if that happens then we lynch him? Especially if he targets someone who we all knew was town that he had no reason to target with his track?

Now I'm curious, who should I have tracked last night?

[PeregrineV]

are pple srsly not going to settle perv's fakeclaim

whatever vote us I'm done[/quote

And answer the Aronis question please.

[PeregrineV]

EBWOP:

are pple srsly not going to settle perv's fakeclaim

whatever vote us I'm done

And answer the Aronis question please.

[PeregrineV]

He's lying. Thats the end of it. He has no business being alive any longer. Indeed, he should have died some time ago.

[PeregrineV]

Now I'm curious, who should I have tracked last night?

If you tracked me.
Or Xtoxm.

Then I would advocate for lynching you.

Then no worries.

[PeregrineV]

Good job town!

Fun game, even near the end.

@pisskop

- no worries!!

[PeregrineV]

Also, my picks were T1000 Terminator, Khan (that was killed in the OP), and the Alien Queen, in that order.