Blitz 5: Netherspite's Blitz SORM Mafia [Game Over]

[farside22]

Town power activate!
Form of:

Town Government-----------MarioManiac
Town Investigative
Town Protective---------------Firebringer
Town Investigative or Protective
Town Killing or Power--------Jeane11
Town Killing or Power-------farside22
Town Random
Town Random
Town Random
Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception
Neutral Killing
Neutral Evil
Neutral Benign---Fro99er--Amnesiac
Neutral Random

[farside22]

Well so far I know I'm not voting fire and I'm sad the soft claiming stopped since we maybe to find scum in there.

vote: yakko

[farside22]

Hi aronis.
You going to sign up for my villain game right?
Also hippy love you owe me another pm.

[farside22]

Well so far I know I'm not voting fire and I'm sad the soft claiming stopped since we maybe to find scum in there.

vote: yakko

Why don't you keep it going by soft claiming?

I already did

[farside22]

Yreckt = ythan+reck (= erect)

amirite?

DEDUCTION FTW.

Oh god I want to kill it now.

[farside22]

Yreckt = ythan+reck (= erect)

amirite?

DEDUCTION FTW.

Oh god I want to kill it now.

just so every1 knows I feel deep deep sympathy for this post.

I have a really bad history with reck.
Really bad.
Just don't be surprised if I ignore them.

[farside22]

Vote: kraeg

[farside22]

No worries.

Vote kraeg with me

[farside22]

Don't be mean, I'm in a minority time zone and won't wake up at 4am for a chat and tea. Also, town investigative.

Finish the mass claim before you bandwagon some1 to death what the hell. VOTE: Farside

This is fake.
Aronis is a scum read. Kraeg moved up in the game.

Vote:smithereen

I'm currently behind and have to go to work, please don't spam the thread if possible.
Please!

[farside22]

Alright.
I am thinking we lynch anyone claiming a Town Protective.
I recommend me first.

There has been 2 other government claims in the game.

This means all town/neutral roles have been claimed, yay - If the rest of the players want to claim, they have to counterclaim some players ^^

Players who haven't claimed yet:

Hippy Love, Idiot Savant, Ranger, Dwlee99, Kraeg

VOTE: Kraeg (He doubted Fire's approach and used that as an excuse for not claiming)

Okay never mind.. hmm

I don't recall you claiming.

[farside22]

scum:
Aronis
smithereen
zymf


yeah top of 14!!!

[farside22]

The town may perform up to three lynches during this game day.

3 lynches on day 1 :O - OMG!? This makes massclaiming an even better idea than normally, imo, as we can't possibly make 3 good lynches based solely on reads instead of claims.

You guys should be on someone who didn't claim something, this wagon on me is retarded.

I agree. We should vote for those who haven't claimed first.

I need to finish up my claims list.
Hold up.

Please do - I will vote as soon as you do.

I am Town Government (or random)

Thanks frogger.
Still like him on my scum list.
Will explain after work today

[farside22]

The town may perform up to three lynches during this game day.

3 lynches on day 1 :O - OMG!? This makes massclaiming an even better idea than normally, imo, as we can't possibly make 3 good lynches based solely on reads instead of claims.

You guys should be on someone who didn't claim something, this wagon on me is retarded.

I agree. We should vote for those who haven't claimed first.

I need to finish up my claims list.
Hold up.

Please do - I will vote as soon as you do.

I am Town Government (or random)

This is not an investigation claim.
This person hammered.
Lynch it or hear my wrath

[farside22]

Can we please stop fighting about claims too.
Hippy love can wait.

[farside22]

So. I think that everyone just skims my posts at this time. *whelp*

*raises hand*
But to be fair I do it to a lot of players.

[farside22]

I'm sticking with smithereen.
Do I really need to point out again he is one of the claim government roles and hammer kraeg.

Not sure why hippy love thinks that lynch was good with no flip but I'm not budging.

*waves to arnois*
Appriecate the comments.

[farside22]

kraeg was the right lynch.

Aronis or zymf is scum, most likely aronis. Getting mad town vibes from zymf. Aronis has reacted to our lack of claim to try and get an easy lynch. Not flying here, buddy.

I think aronis/smithereens is the right way to go today

i think dwlee is town, unfortunately

zymf is scum but you're getting mad town vibes from zymf? Can you clarify?

Fact: one of themnis lying and therefore scum. I have a town read on zymf. Not that hard?

And we HAVE said enough. Far or Jeanne is lying.

Not me.
Besides that there is 3 random town roles so.....?

[farside22]

@farside are you okay with an aronis lynch?

I don't know if we will get 3 lynches and I'm pushing the one I feel strongest about.
I'm okay with aronis but I want to explain my scum read on smithereen first.

will you guys listen to me now about smithereens plz

No. They are town.

Aronis is scum. Zymf

could

be scum. But I'm not voting Smithereens.

Why, don't be vague I quoted things I found scummy, you quote what reads town to you.

Hippy love is asking you to show her what she isn't seeing/is missing.

And so am I.

My request should trump Hippy Love's, though, for one simple reason: there's more town in the game than scum; innocent until proven guilty applies. I say I don't see anything scum in Smithereen's posting;

that alone

would be enough. Given I see town in there, I stand by my statement.

This needs to die.

[farside22]

The why I think smithereen is scum points.
Those that don't know I phone post so my points are above and quotes I'm reffering to are below.

The first post reads like fake rage,
He wants to finish the claims but votes anyways?
How does that make sense and why vote someone that did claim already if it's a genuine feeling.
Multiple post talking about why claiming is important but what I caught below shows smithereen calling idiot a liability to us and many post later votes Mollie.
Why so many post later did it take to make this vote.

Mutiple post about hindering the claiming process over and over.
Hammers out of the blue.
Goes back to hippy.
What smithereen is doing I call the scum guide on how to look busy and do no scum hunting approach.

Don't be mean, I'm in a minority time zone and won't wake up at 4am for a chat and tea. Also, town investigative.

Finish the mass claim before you bandwagon some1 to death what the hell. VOTE: Farside

Although it currently feels like people are just waiting for something to happen.

Is that bad or good?

I was reading blitz game 1 because I was.

Good and Bad imo. Was reading through game 1 of that 2+2 thing were angry pidgeon and dipping were playing in. A lot of peeps there would just multipost like crazy so potential for more mistakes. If that makes sense. But since people are just waiting here then when it comes to lynching we might not be able to decide. Although I am not opposed to random lynching.

In a mass claim game why the fvck would you want to go random lynching?? Especially when you've got a nice sized handful of players who aren't claiming.

fire, im gonna say this once, dont even make that kind of comment towards me aagin about mollie, you dont even knwo how much shit she ahs helped me though.

i owe her more then ican ever give and i will be damned before i see her lynched right now

Absolutely not standing for this shit. If Mollie is the most suitable lynch target you are going to be a liability to us. You might need to die too if that's the case.

Might as well decide what our other two lynches will be in the meantime. Tentative but formal VOTE: Hippy Love while I review iso etc. Thoughts mario..?

I understand we're all sheeping a confirmed townie, but the eagerness gives me doubts.. Why did nobody ask or challenge..?

I'll assume you caught up from this post. Mind giving us a read list?

Yes, everyone of you is fvcking drunk or high. FB I like, I feel like he def would not be so eager to die as scum to prove a point. The others I'll wait and see. Kraeg I read null, as he raises points but doesn't actually attempt to push. Which is just lackluster.

I'll hammer if we run out of time.

Otherwise you should probably explain to me why he is the best possible lynch as opposed to the others in his category.

Uhmmm... did you just miss the fact that the town can lynch three times today? Waiting for the last minute to hammer me is tantamount to attempting to waste the Town Marshall's power.

(Of course I don't want to be lynched but I want to point this out)

No I did not miss this thank you very much. But we can't move on to the next vote without completing you first. So you really need to die for us to move forward tbh.

too many investigatives. We should get specific with the claims and flush out the liars. I'm about to go to sleep so VOTE: Kraeg Will cya tomorrow.

'morning all.

@Hippy,
It really doesn't matter if you think mass claim is a bad idea at this point. The majority of players have already claimed so by leaving one or two individuals with room to move around with their claim only benefits the mafia. You've already told us you're opposed to mass claims, fair enough, but I expect you to align your behaviour with what would benefit town circumstantially and not on what you believe on principle. In this instance, you not claiming is information that the mafia can obtain via PoE and information that the town will never know. So it's really in our best interests to make you talk at this point.

On another note, this game is becoming like kingsmaker, where one guy is determining the lynch. I strongly disapprove, as Mario doesn't appear to be making much effort to utilise the reads and information of others. Ideally buddy you should be asking the most questions out of everyone here.. You're going to be a liability if you lynch three townies in rapid fire and then we lose two in the night thanks to all these killing roles.

VOTE: Hippy Love

Vote: smithereen

[farside22]

Not really for any lynches except the non claimer.
Gotta stay in that tunnel mode.

VOTE: hippy love

and you best believe that when the next time there is a discussion on suspending some1 from games because they were scum and "they were playing against their wc" I will bring this game up and point out that you blatantly are at this point time playing against your wc if you don't believe I am scum.

and I have claimed. I AM NOT fullclaiming. but you have been too busy being butthurt to have noticed it and do anything with the info that I gave you.

@ ika

in postgame for the love of god plz explain it to him why mass claiming

on this site

is a bad idea. the last game I was in where pple got the bright idea claim early (d2), do you know who benefited the most from it? scum. do you know who won that game? scum. do you know who was town in that game? my hydra, singer, glork, quadz and ut. and lets just say that I trust them to break a game ON THIS SITE before I wld you and fire, no offence intended. its 1 of those things that look good on paper and probably isn't a horrible strategy early in the game but if you 2 die, who do you think will most likely be left to follow through? a bunch of pple who have NOT played this kind of set up before and will not know what to look for. not to mention replace outs, etc etc.

I feel like this game is a bit scum-sided and pple need to slow down and think long term strategy. giving scum that much info this early is a mistake, they just use the list to simplify their nk choices, it removes the ability to do a proper nka and it throws up a lot of false positives which I feel has been done already. what worked on you guys homesite will not necessarily work on this site because ms town will find some way to derp it up I guarantee it. I am not trying to be contrary here but hippy and I know the site meta and massclaiming prematurely has historically led to town losses.

also i am not lynching froggy, that was all hippy.

I like this idea because we are not full claiming and it can narrow the scum pool quite a bit when mutiple players claim the same thing.
Why don't you see that?
Also you promised to vote smithereen here.

[farside22]

Claims List:

Town Government [MarioManiac Confirmed Marshall]
Town Investigative
Town Protective [idiot servant/firebringer, kraeg]
Town Investigative or Protective [hi im yakko-Investigative]
Town Killing or Power [Jeanee11-Killing] hippy love
Town Killing or Power [Farisde22-Power]
Town Random [ForWhomTheJellyRolls-Investigative]
Town Random [Aronis-Government/Citizen]
Town Random [Zymf and smithereen- Government]
Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception
Neutral Killing
Neutral Evil
Neutral Benign [Fro99er Amnesiac]
Neutral Random [Yreckt Benign]

This is what we are working with at the moment.

Unclaimed: ranger, dwlee99

[farside22]

The why I think smithereen is scum points.
Those that don't know I phone post so my points are above and quotes I'm reffering to are below.

The first post reads like fake rage,
He wants to finish the claims but votes anyways?
How does that make sense and why vote someone that did claim already if it's a genuine feeling.
Multiple post talking about why claiming is important but what I caught below shows smithereen calling idiot a liability to us and many post later votes Mollie.
Why so many post later did it take to make this vote.

Mutiple post about hindering the claiming process over and over.
Hammers out of the blue.
Goes back to hippy.
What smithereen is doing I call the scum guide on how to look busy and do no scum hunting approach.

Interesting reaction. But okay. Could you clarify what you mean when you say 'why vote someone that did claim already if it's a genuine feeling?
>There was conflict with Hippy as to his resistance to claim as I believed scum could simply narrow it down via PoE and town would be at a loss.
> Idiot is a liability and that isn't up for argument. Anyone who ruthlessly attacks other townies for voting for someone that the person knows nothing about is inherently the weakest link, no exceptions.
>Posts about 'hindering the claiming process' were all relevant to the discussion, don't remove the context please.
>I hammered Kraeg because I was going to sleep, and he needed to be lynched for town to move onto the next lynch.
>I went back to hippy the next morning because he was unfinished business from the previous day.
>I feel like I'm making a genuine contribution if you don't think so please apply your logic a bit more consistently and lynch the half dozen other players who are making absolutely no contribution.

You raise these points as alternate explanations for my behaviour. I dislike this because half of them aren't even valid when viewed during the discussion. I assume you pulled them out of my iso and came up with the idea that I was going on about the same thing. Please read through that discussion and come back and tell me what you think.

You voted me at the start and I claimed already.
Why did you hammer kraeg?
Why aren't you attacking others who haven't claimed?

[farside22]

VOTE: Yreckt
Lets finish this day.

Can I get 5 min for a moment please.

[farside22]

Ah I got confused between Zymf and smithereen for claims there.

Vote:yreck

Don't mind this lynch at all.

[farside22]

You voted me at the start and I claimed already.
Why did you hammer kraeg?
Why aren't you attacking others who haven't claimed?

I'm interpreting the amount of points you're dropping as evidence that your attacks were 100% fluff and no real material.
>You received my vote initially because I had just read the entire DP up to that point and voted against a random who I didn't think had claimed. Evidently your claim was really early and since I'm not familiar with any name here, the high chance of error manifested itself.
>I already explained why I hammered Kraeg, and it would do you well to read it, as I even addressed it explicitly to you not a single post ago in this dialogue. Kraeg needed to die because all of towns votes were against him and couldn't move on. I was about to head off and wouldn't be coming back until within short time of the end of DP so I did the logical thing and killed him. Why are you hung up about this? Does something strike you as suss?
>I'm not

currently

attacking others who didn't claim as I had a circumstantial incident with only one of them, in the sense that Hippy was the only person who didn't claim to actually defend his non-claiming. My firm belief was that this defense was flawed, and hence why I argued the case against him.

There are several disturbing issues now regarding your behaviour.
1) You edited the list of role claims and moved me into a government slot when I was the only person in the investigative slot. Please refresh your memory:Post #618 The post which you copied it off could in no way be interpreted incorrectly,

therefore please explain why you tampered with the role claim list. (knowing that it would make me look guilty)

2) The clear and distinct lack of thought that is going into your attack is more rather an example of fake scum hunting. You've brought up several reasons why you think I'm scum and you've dropped all bar three, (with absolutely no resistance at all) which I have addressed comprehensively. Despite this I'm still a scum read to you so you are either suffering a severe dosage of confirmation bias or this fluff of an attack has a more malign purpose.

Please explain why you gave up on all the reasons that demonstrated my guilt with such ease, but not your read.

3) From the start, your behaviour has been categorically reactionary and negatively reactionary for that matter. You only started this attack on me after I voted against you, and instead of questioning the vote, you came up with reasons as to why my initial posts were indicative of scum; Ignoring effectively the reasons behind my vote. Your failure to use questions to ascertain -and instead creating a case that was designed to convince others that I'm scum- is not only counter-intuitive for a townie; but counter-productive, illogical and beneficial only to those who want me dead. It is more reasonable to interpret this behaviour as scum aligned, as scum are the only factions that benefit.

Please address and explain each point thoughtfully. I don't want you replying like you have been previously, throwing up an attack of pure fluff and pretending it doesn't exist when it is explained to you.

You sure talk a lot.
Serious question back, why did you have to wait to respond to my attack on you into the next day phase?

First of all your vote said nothing at all about the reasons your claiming now for voting me.
Should I quote again what it said?

Sure.

Don't be mean, I'm in a minority time zone and won't wake up at 4am for a chat and tea. Also, town investigative.

Finish the mass claim before you bandwagon some1 to death what the hell. VOTE: Farside

No I'm not dropping my points I'm asking questions because you danced around my points I made.

Where did you explain the hammer of kraeg and what do you even mean by all the votes were on him?
Did you look to see who or why or care?

As for not attacking others for not claiming, yeah that's scummy.
It could mean your letting your scum buddy not claim and not attack then.

Let's discuss you complaint.
1) I explained I had the wrong player. 2 investigative roles claimed doesn't make you look any more town then before.
2) that's your oppion. I showed quotes why I thought the way I did.
3) again an oppion.

I said why your vote looked fake. Your rage looks fake.
Do you think players are mind readers?
I'm assuming based on your longer post, no.

[farside22]

Don't edit me into a claim I never made please.

Town Government [MarioManiac Confirmed Marshall]
Town Investigative [Smithereens] dwell and jellyrolls
Town Protective [idiot servant/firebringer, kraeg]
Town Investigative or Protective [hi im yakko-Investigative]
Town Killing or Power [Jeanee11-Killing] hippy love
Town Killing or Power [Farisde22-Power]
Town Random:
Town Random
Town Random [Zymf- Government] - confirm town
Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception
Neutral Killing: aronis
Neutral Evil
Neutral Benign [Fro99er Amnesiac]
Neutral Random [Yreckt Benign]

Unclaimed: ranger


Just looking at this as a reminder.

Vote: ranger

[farside22]

Looking at the list from what we know I'm thinking Jeanne, smithereen and ranger.
Jellyfish is another one I have an eye on as scum go.

[farside22]

I am an investigative role, firebringer.

I feel like no one read this post or the billion posts after explaining that I did claim.

Sorry I took the list from firebringer.
I didn't look to see if anyone else claimed there after.

[farside22]

Ranger claimed government.

I like my vote even more now.

[farside22]

I am pretty sure I claimed earlier than that. Let me find it.

Then you can blame fire for missing you.

Sorry I can tell you are not having fun.
Why don't you tell me your scum reads right now.

[farside22]

Smithereens ranger and jeanne.

why?
You know my reasons for smithereen so why ranger?

[farside22]

I'm not going to quote that long post from smithereen.
No one ever read it.

Let's do step by step instead of arguing here.
Smithereen voted me.
He claims my scum read is based on that (it really is all that summed up) he didn't say until this game day what his issues with me were.
Today all he said for voting me was based on an error.
Not sure how that happened since I filled in the space that was being used with my user name and had a cute pic.
But sure error okay then.

Next up.
I'm not into debating. I'm a raging bitch sometimes, a thought friend or I can analysis the fuck out of a game.
Giving an oppinion is just that. It's not based on facts, it's what someone thinks, which anyone can do if any alignment. It's why I dismiss it.

Let a talk about the hammer on kraeg for a moment.
Hammering a player without saying you scum read said player is scummy.
Acting like it isn't is just plain weird.

I agree if an investigation role as results of some sort that helps the game it should be revealed.

And now I put you on ignore at this point for thinking your oppion is fact somehow.

[farside22]

So I went through your iso and didn't really see anything that convinced me you were an asset to town. When I say I wasn't convinced, I mean you're bloody useless. Excuse me thinking that you hadn't claimed. I want you and the others who claimed town investigative to help me run liar tests on the other players. Just waiting to hear Mario's input on this suggestion first.

Can you clarify what you mean by liar tests?
Investigation of each other? I'd support that. If I had to pick scum in the group, it would be JellyRolls.

This is a good idea too.
Agree about jelly.
I'm starting to think smithereen is all ego which will rub me wrong this game.

[farside22]

far if you back out of your smithereen scumread I am going to

hurt

you.

I just saying his comments this day read as having an ego.
You know that drives me crazy.

[farside22]

Looking at the list from what we know I'm thinking Jeanne, smithereen and ranger.
Jellyfish is another one I have an eye on as scum go.

what do you think of fire starting off wanting categories but then not knowing that the categories are in town role pms.

Where was that?

[farside22]

far if you back out of your smithereen scumread I am going to

hurt

you.

I just saying his comments this day read as having an ego.
You know that drives me crazy.

he is still likely scum tho, he said he was gonna investigate me and he didn't. and he wants to wait until last before saying who investigated.

hell no.

eta: at the beginning of the day round that is why yakko was voting him.

Are you talking about this comment?

We should just massclaim and break this game wide open.

in regards to smithereen: I get it.

[farside22]

Also I just realized I was pretty far behind day 1 and trying to catch up.
Not sure why smitereen thinks I need to question his motives when he voted he didn't really question me.
Just the hypocrisy thing I like to point out when people make long cases that say things and yet ignore how fast the day was and the fact I said I was busy at work and trying to catch up that piss me off.

[farside22]

@ far:

Kraeg was Town Protective or Town Killing.
Same as me.

He could be in either of those slots.

If your role has another category, you should claim it.

VOTE: firebringer doesn't know town were given the specific category they were in via pm.

I've read my PM 3 times, did a search and no where does it say what category I was in.

Mod: did you give category's in the role PM?

Mine just says you are a town _______
Abilities
Win Condition
Nothing about the category is there. Even the front page says all players get is a role PM.
so????

[farside22]

There is no category in any role PM in this game.

Back to mollie and I'm yakko now to explain themself

[farside22]

There is no category in any role PM in this game.

it is in our role pm cos the categories are in the op.

That makes no sense hippy.


I'm assuming dwlee is happy with said results.

Okay dwlee. Thank you for responding.

[farside22]

okay so far and dwlee are on the list!

cos no1 visited me last night unless a different NAR is being used that I am not used to.

I didn't say I visit you.

I'm assuming what your claiming but you know if we lynch dwell and he is town I will lynch you and feel no remorse or care at all.

[farside22]

okay so far and dwlee are on the list!

cos no1 visited me last night unless a different NAR is being used that I am not used to.

I didn't say I visit you.

I'm assuming what your claiming but you know if we lynch dwell and he is town I will lynch you and feel no remorse or care at all.

I never said that you did visit me!

I am saying that there are huge chunks of the game that you are ignoring and I am trying to figure out why.

dwlee did not visit me. period. end of story. UNLESS a different NAR is being used than what I am used to.

Like what?

Don't be vague sweetie, you know I won't put up with it.

[farside22]

It said my target was not suspicious. so pfft

and I am saying no1 visited me so you are lying.

@ mario - what are you doing. dwlee and I are not scum together and I am directly ccing jeanne and I am telling you that nking an indie over town was dumb. <------ who do you think wld do that.

@ mod - can we have the NAR list?

bus driver?
Moves a player to someone else.
Usually bus driver takes over in NAR
Also not sure if it is in the game but a redirector does the same thing.

[farside22]

busdrive and redirector do not trump pgo

Busdriver targets dwell and has him target another player.

Duh

[farside22]

busdrive and redirector do not trump pgo

Busdriver targets dwell and has him target another player.

Duh

you are giving me some srs scum vibes.

do you really think that is what happened?

Either that are one of you and dwlee is scum

[farside22]

I am taking this out of the nested quotes:

its almost like I am saying that dwlee is lying!

it is possible that there is a bus driver who targeted dwlee I suppose.

hey guys do we have a bus driver? guess what? now wld be a good time to massclaim roles and who you targeted cos that wld be super helpful cos no grp!scum have died and we are in a precarious position!

I just don't see dwlee as scum.
But do with that what you want.

[farside22]

thank you mollie!!!!!!

also dupe roles can aeixst if you are saying they cant {im not fully understanding im waking up so)

i also have a chart of the role lsit of catagories ppl claimed. everyone should claim roles at this point now so i cna hard slot people

dupe roles exist only within the scope of random roles in which there are only 3.

like I said I am still piecing things together.

rereading the opening of the day so i can compile info, I think smithereens might be town. mebbe.

well that and the overlaps

outside of random lsit there can be one more invest/protect as well as one killing/power

ill get my list ready

also dwlee what was you results

You serious?
Do I need to show the list again to

[farside22]

Town Government [MarioManiac Confirmed Marshall] ranger claimed.
Town Investigative [Smithereens] dwell and jellyrolls
Town Protective [idiot servant/firebringer, [town]kraeg]
Town Investigative or Protective [hi im yakko-Investigative]
Town Killing or Power [Jeanee11-Killing] hippy love
Town Killing or Power [Farisde22-Power]
Town Random:
Town Random
Town Random [Zymf- Government] - confirm town
Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception
Neutral Killing: aronis
Neutral Evil
Neutral Benign [Fro99er Amnesiac]
Neutral Random [Yreckt Benign]


There are 2 town random spots left.

Ranger I'm calling scum here with claim and players im town reading.
As far as investigators go its smithereen or jelly or both.
Protector fire or IS.
Ika hasn't hammered anyone is game I say wft

Then one of Jeannie (who I'm scum reading or you)

[farside22]

far did you claim your role yet?

Just my category.
Did you claim your role yet?

[farside22]

Town Government
Town Investigative
Town Protective

Town Investigative or Protective

Town Killing or Power
Town Killing or Power

Town Random
Town Random
Town Random

the bolded shows an overlap where another invest/protective can exist outside of the reuglar

the underlins shows 1-2 killing/power is existing

yep

so far there are 2 vets and 2 bodyguards and I feel like I am forgetting something.

oh yeah. if a bus driver exists than jeanne and I both unlikely to be town vets.

ika do you have the list of all of the claimed categories?

Who claimed bg and who else claimed vet?

[farside22]

jeannie or dwlee are the logical lynches for today. One of them is obviously lying

I'm just going to keep my vote on ranger until you explain why he isn't scum.

[farside22]

Never mind I saw Jeanne's claiming

[farside22]

ok

know what nvm its even more trouble and less sense

Town Government -- confirmed to be mario

Town Investigative [yakko]

Town Protective [idiot servant/firebringer]

Town Investigative or Protective - kraig fliped BG

Town Killing or Power [Jeanee11-Killing]
Town Killing or Power [Farisde22-Power]
Town Random Smitheerens/forjelly
Town Random

Town Random - crier zymf

Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception

Neutral Killing -anrios serial killer

Neutral Evil Yreckt cult

Neutral Benign Fro99er Amnesiac

Neutral Random - auditor ???

so bolded is confirmed fliped
underlined is confirmed existed

so im putting yakko under the invest cus he was auditied
cirier is confirmed role
so scum lies in the shriif dude (dont have him but hes there), smiterines/jelly, and far/jeanne

peditssss:

@far, yes i did

@molile, fire claimed to be a BG, i dont think we had any othre veteran claims?

Hippy love and ranger isn't on your list.

[farside22]

Sorry but the list from savant is awful.

Town Government [MarioManiac Confirmed Marshall] Ranger
Town Investigative [Smithereens] dwell and jellyrolls
Town Protective

[town]kraeg

Town Investigative or Protective [hi im yakko-Investigative]
Town Killing or Power [Jeanee11-Killing] hippy love
Town Killing or Power [Farisde22-Power]
Town Random: idiot savant/firebringer (protective claim)
Town Random
Town Random [Zymf- Government] - confirm town
Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception
Neutral Killing: aronis
Neutral Evil
Neutral Benign [Fro99er Amnesiac]
Neutral Random [Yreckt Benign]

[farside22]

ok

know what nvm its even more trouble and less sense

Town Government -- confirmed to be mario

Town Investigative [yakko]

Town Protective [idiot servant/firebringer]

Town Investigative or Protective - kraig fliped BG

Town Killing or Power [Jeanee11-Killing]
Town Killing or Power [Farisde22-Power]
Town Random Smitheerens/forjelly
Town Random ranger/mollie

Town Random - crier zymf

Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception

Neutral Killing -anrios serial killer

Neutral Evil Yreckt cult

Neutral Benign Fro99er Amnesiac

Neutral Random - auditor ???

so bolded is confirmed fliped
underlined is confirmed existed

so im putting yakko under the invest cus he was auditied
cirier is confirmed role
so scum lies in the shriif dude (dont have him but hes there), smiterines/jelly, and far/jeanne

fixed. the only reason i have jsut put it right there for now is bunching you all is mroe confusion. when role sart getting sorted we can move people aorund

Much, much better.

Meh I'll probably never get to use my ability this game.
I'm the town jailor.
Having to even think of no lynching makes me go wft.....seriously?

[farside22]

who did you target, far?

Day 1 was aronis.
I chose during the day whom I wish to jail

[farside22]

Sorry
Doesn't matter as from what I read my ability only work when a no lynch happens.
Good luck with that with 3 lynches on day 1.

[farside22]

Having to even think of no lynching makes me go wft.....seriously?

the reason why jailors can jail on only lynch is cus of how powerful it is and how the normal game is setup

nomally games are like 3 mins day and 2 mins night with 14 other troll players yelling a bunch of shit

most times day 1 would be a no-lynhc day (ie you cant lynch) giving jailor opertunity. sometimes ppl would not reach a lynch decision and day would run out, here on fourm it gets rid of that problem

pedit: ya its ont gonna happen on marshal reveal

I'd only find it useful to use more to narrow my scum pool and when at least one scum dead.
Now let's lynch ranger.

[farside22]

far

if you are claiming a town power category then why are you bringing up a bus driver?

VOTE: farside

Because I think dwlee is town.
And I don't think you are dumb enough to do 1v1 as scum

[farside22]

Hmmm that may come across as rude.

Is that rude?

[farside22]

I think that was completely fine.

Also is it me or does smithereens just want seem to want to be right? I definitely see lack of town motivation behind her posts. And they don't relate to hw the other person is scum but instead how they are wrong and they equate that with scum qualities? It's weird.

Either it's a personality thing or he is scum.
So far I see only one scum read he's explained thus far.

[farside22]

can we plz lynch far now?

I'm not scum and I never claimed a protective role.
So whatever your issue is you should explain it before I reconsider my are you dumb scum moment.

[farside22]

Prod dodge.
This game sucks!

No, but honestly. We could no lynch to give farside ability to confirm their role.

Only concern I have is scum have a manipulative role, which with me out they can do as they wish if they have a kidnapper.
I'd rather lynch ranger and give dirty looks to those hopping on dwlee without explaining why.

I smell set up.

[farside22]

Prod dodge.
This game sucks!

No, but honestly. We could no lynch to give farside ability to confirm their role.

Only concern I have is scum have a manipulative role, which with me out they can do as they wish if they have a kidnapper.
I'd rather lynch ranger and give dirty looks to those hopping on dwlee without explaining why.

I smell set up.

do you still think there is a town bus driver at this point?

Till everyone checks in I'm not jumping in.

[farside22]

I looked back and apparently firebringer and savant are the only claimed protective roles.
Jeanne was the other person it could have been.
Dwlee said nothing about not getting results.

Vote: dwlee

[farside22]

I looked back and apparently firebringer and savant are the only claimed protective roles.
Jeanne was the other person it could have been.
Dwlee said nothing about not getting results.

Vote: dwlee

JEANNE CLAIMED TOWN KILLING NOT PROTECTIVE

ALSO DWLEE SAID THAT HE VIEWED US AND GOT NOT SUSPICIOUS.

Breathe child.

I get it okay.

Jesus

[farside22]

Actually no im mad.
I asked what I was missing.
You know telling me those that could have done what I was thinking already claimed.
Yelling like you are doesn't help.
Getting pissy doesn't help.

[farside22]

So...Fro99er and I were busdriven last night.

How the fuck is that possible

[farside22]

ranger are you claiming bus driver?

I'm thinking maybe a jester.

[farside22]

zymf is confiremd crier though ranger, unless if your going to make a nargument that wako is scum who is faking an autior right now

pedit: read above, the only way for jester ot be existant is wako claiming to not be autidied

This sentence is really confusing

[farside22]

ranger are you claiming bus driver?

I'm thinking maybe a jester.

so you think that dwlee...is doing something and that ranger is a jester?

I read froggers ability.
What ranger says makes no sense.

[farside22]

yakko claimed to be turned into a citizen, the only way for that to happen is for an auditor to exist
Auditor is neutral evil
recks slot already occupies the netural evil slot (cult)
so for a jester to be an applicable role in the game

yakko must be lying about being autited

Oh.

Why did ranger say he was a government role?
That isn't under bus driver.

[farside22]

ranger are you claiming bus driver?

I'm thinking maybe a jester.

so you think that dwlee...is doing something and that ranger is a jester?

Sorry I realized I'm not being clear.

The bus driver claim made no sense because ranger claimed government.
The claim also just seems weird and I had to laugh at the idea of anyone targeting ranger.
My thought was it was so bad maybe a jester hoping to get lynched.
But the claim from yakko means all 3rd parties are accounted for.
So now my brain is looking at ranger and thinking no way this dude is town

[farside22]

ranger are you claiming bus driver?

No, but my action

was

redirected. Onto myself. I targeted Fro99er. I don't see me being redirected back onto myself as being that likely. I see the possibility of me and Fro99er being switched as incredibly likely,

especially

given that Fro99er died.

It was Hippy Love I believe who said it themselves, but if not it was you: what kind of scumteam would be

stupid

enough to kill a benevolent third party? Exactly--they wouldn't. They'd have extreme interest, however, in eliminating someone with potentially-accurate reads. Like me.

Hippy/idiot: you do know the biggest flaw here with rangers claim right?

[farside22]

Town Mason

Spoiler:

Welcome, PlayerName. You are a Town Mason Leader along with your fellow Town Masons, PlayerName and PlayerName.

Abilities:
Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partners here [Private topic link].
Conversion immunity: You cannot be converted to the Cultist.
Mason recruitment: Every night you can PM me the name of another player to attempt to recruit him into Town Mason.

The recruitment will only succeed if the target player is a Town Citizen. If the target player is a member of the Cult, you will kill him instead.

If the target player is a member of Mafia, he will discover who you are (you will not be notified about it). You are limited to 3 Mason recruitments. If recruitment attempt results in a kill of a member of the Cult, it will count towards recruitment limit. In the end of the night phase you will receive a PM from me containing the result of the recruitment in a clear and unambiguous way.
Unique role: There can be only one Town Mason Leader in the game at any time.

I bolded the important part on why I find the claim by ranger, bull shit.

[farside22]

VOTE: ranger

[farside22]

I'm still waiting for ranger to explain how zwf isn't confirmed town and why he targetted frogger knowing what the role says

[farside22]

why wld you try to mason an indie over a conftown who was likely to be protected with at least mebbe 1 conftown in play?

Because I thought that Mario, as confirmed town, would be nightkilled by the scum. So, instead, I targeted the

other

person topping my town list.

Because 2 other players stated a protective role doesn't cross your mind?

[farside22]

Should I bother stating a bus driver is only under a town role ability and hasn't claimed and anyone whom claimed under the category of being a possible bus drive has claimed there full role already?

[farside22]

Dwlee you still haven't explained your claim so don't think I haven't forgotten you either

[farside22]

and hasn't claimed and anyone whom claimed under the category of being a possible bus drive has claimed there full role already?

So I was wrong about it being a busdrive. I read my role PM and came to post that immediately. But my result is what it is.

You seem to think yakko will be alive to confirm you.

No seriously I want two lynches this game day.
Please?

[farside22]

Dwlee you still haven't explained your claim so don't think I haven't forgotten you either

I'm a sheriff. Did I imagine me posting that?

Hippy love claimed vet.

[farside22]

You seem to think yakko will be alive to confirm you.

1: Yakko is not a universal townread. Even if he was, his skills as a scumhunter are not necessarily top-tier. That makes him a sub-optimal nightkill. 2: But even if he was targeted...he was converted into a citizen, no? Well, citizens are given a 1x bulletproof vest. He uses it, he's invincible for the night. (Vest activation resolves before kills which resolve before recruits. Therefore, my recruit can't remove the vest. Though that'd actually still confirm me as town if Yakko died as a mason.)

Fair enough.

Vote: dwlee

[farside22]

Just going to say I still think ranger is full of shit

[farside22]

Sorry for the delay, I had a flight.

Town has won!
Congratulations to

MarioManiac4

,

hi im Yakko

,

Hippy Love

,

ForWhomTheJellyRolls

,

Ranger

,

Firebringer

,

Kraeg

,

Zymf

,

farside22

.

Night actions and resolution:

here

Mafia PT:

awaiting permission from the scumteam

Mason PT:

awaiting permission from the masonry

Thanks to everyone for participating.
I enjoyed running this game for you, however nailing 2 most dangerous neutrals in the first Day was devastating for the scum.
Regardless, I'd say that it was rather poor neutrals & scum play rather than a massclaim that won the game for the Town.
One more mafia member in the setup wouldn't hurt though.
I'll try to run another Blitz game of the similar setup with slight balance changes later (closer to the December, when I'm off V/LA).
Will be happy to see you in the next game.

I hope you guys had some fun too

Mass claim will work with this set up about 95% of the time I'm betting.

[farside22]

I never pegged you as an optimist far.

I'm optimistically pessimistic.