Blitz 3: Dead of Winter Mafia - Game Over
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The_Jester Mafia Scum
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In post 88, Davsto wrote:
Can we have people referring to davesaz and me (Davsto) with our full names? Otherwise I see "dav" or "dave" and go "wait shit what have I done oh wait wrong dav(e)"
So are you Dave or Davsto now?
Does it make you uneasy when someone refers to you in a distrustful manner?
Do you have something to hide?
Answer.Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!-
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Town: Expedience, Bard
Leaning town: Ranger, Davsto,
Null: Klingon, Hiplop, pisskop
At least 1 scum's probably between: Makoto, Davesaz, Gameplay, Scorpious,
No idea what to think of ARS, got really mixed feelings.
VOTE: Makoto
My main suspect, mostly gut but I don't like that she posts almost exclusively fluff, tries to look useful but really isn't, doesn't take decisive stances. Looks like cautious newbscum to me.
If this wagon doesn't gain traction I'm gonna switch but I'm the most comfortable with my vote there atm.
This has to do for the time being.Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!-
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@davesaz I did, in fact, miss that alt thing. However you can still be newbscum after playing a number of games, to me it's rather an expression regarding a level of confidence in your own play.
I don't see how Expedience can be scum. If he indeed is, I admire his skill but seriously Scorpious' vote made me want to vote nim but there's no wagon on nim so no point.
I'm gonna re-read and probably join one of longer wagons for now. We gotta choose and unify the wagons cause I can't see how NL can be beneficial to anyone but scum.Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!-
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In post 275, Netherspite wrote:Official Vote Count
gameplay506(3): davesaz, A Royal Saint, Klingoncelt
davesaz(2): gameplay506, Expedience
Ranger(2): Davsto, Makoto Nanaya
A Royal Saint(2): The Silver Bard, Ranger
Klingoncelt(1): hiplop
Makoto Nanaya(1): The_Jester
Expedience(1): Scorpious
Not Voting(1): pisskop
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2015-11-07 13:52:33)
Ok looks like it's gameplay or nobody, so
VOTE: gameplayWhy'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!-
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@Makoto I've got two questions for you:
1. What's your current stance on gameplay? Cause you've went from scum to town to "dunno". Please decide. Are you willing to join his wagon or not? Why?
2. Since Ranger's still your main scumread, why aren't you trying to gain more supporters on this wagon? Are you satisfied with not having impact on the game?Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!-
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In post 396, The Silver Bard wrote:
- gameplay is probably town. His play day one makes much more sense from a townie trying to confirm himself (as stupid as it is) by spending his lynchproof by baiting by playing anti-town than a scum wasting his lynchproof.
I'm sorry but this is simply not true. It's straight-up scummy to make town waste a whole day just because you wanna "confirm" yourself and don't wanna put any effort in playing. Not speaking of lowering your chances of winning when you potentially reach LyLo as "conf town".Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!-
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Hiplop's not even a viable lynch right now.
What's your opinion on Makoto?Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!-
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Goddamit, I hate playing with Muricans. It's quiet whole day and when I wake up BOOM, always gotta catch up.
Anyway, I know Davsto and he's town so I'm not lynching him.
Also I'd gladly lynch Fire cause I can't see his posts on mobile. Fuck that.
@Expedience why did you exactly unvote Makoto?Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!-
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Sorry for being so silent lately but stomach flu is keeping me on my knees (literally).
I'm not opposing a hiplop lynch, atm I like it more than Exp lynch cause he's been my main townread to date. This may change depending on tonight's flip but I'll have to re-read it all when I feel better.
I'll hammer if need be.Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!-
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Okay, playtime's over.
I'm the Cop.
I visited Davsto N1 cause he was the only person I've played with before and was curious. Result: Town.
I visited ARS N2 cause I got paranoid about his double vote. Result: Town (as we all know now)
The person I visited N3 was... pisskop. I think it was the most viable choice after the shit he's done at the end of the day. And I wasn't wrong. Result: guilty.
VOTE: pisskop
You should've killed me earlier, thanks for letting me know you were planning on using your NA on me tonight.
I didn't wanna claim before I made sure pisskop wouldn't change his claim again. His #707 ensures that. No one else is gonna try to counter-claim.Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
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If you were a normal Doc, you'd just protect me tonight (if people decide they want you to live) and I'd check a person we'd all agree on, easy peasy. But with CPR Doc it's shite cause I'm not gonna live to tell the story if scum doesn't decide to target me. Which makes me think a CPR Doc's a believable claim. And that worries me cause I was so sure you were scum...Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!-
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If you want me to be honest, I'd rather see you dead. I mean, there are "ifs" and "coulds" but a guilty is a guilty. Dunno, it would just help me sleep better to know I've done my job and I'm not being fucked with. But I guess it's not as simple as that.Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
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See, my problem is the stuff you say about Expedience doesn't actuallyhaveto be true. I mean, scum could've abstained from using NK N1, right? I know it's unlikely. But it could've happened for whatever reason.
I've ISOd Expedience to see if he crumbed in any way your role. Unfortunately, I haven't found much.
He did say that:
In post 312, Expedience wrote:In post 294, Makoto Nanaya wrote:So first things first, gameplay is probably town. If I had to guess, the scum are trying to force us into a second D1 with that No kill.
I don't really see this as likely, how would the scum benefit from "a second D1", wouldn't D2 with one less town member be inherently better? I guess that could happen at MyLo or something, but nobody has died yet.I think that they attacked someone.
That would indicate he knew about the night target.
Expedience almost didn't interact with you at all, apart from this:
In post 428, Expedience wrote:In post 427, pisskop wrote:We arent doing this. Fire, claim and/or die.
He said in code that he is unlynchable, but that his role PM doesn't necessarily say if the unlynchableness is one-shot or not.
He said that he tracked Klingoncelt last night but she went nowhere.
Do you believe his claim?
He may have asked you cause he trusted you.
He did slightly townread you, despite the lack of interaction, which favors your story:
In post 466, Expedience wrote:I can try to sort them in order if you want but it won't be that informative.
Town
Expedience
The Silver Bard
A Royal Saint
pisskop
Firebringer (replaces gameplay506)
Klingoncelt
Ranger
The_Jester
Makoto Nanaya
Scorpious
hiplop
davesaz
Davsto
Scum
Makoto / Scorpious would be a nullish kind of area below which slight townreads become slight scumreads.
I actually have a lot of townreads, but I think that's good because there are only 2 scum in this setup.
But he's also townread you before your alleged PT conversation happened:
In post 127, Expedience wrote:In post 123, davesaz wrote:It's a playstyle thing. Some people are confrontational, others use a more oblique approach. The trick is reading how people respond.
Lots of game links available on my wiki page, feel free to compare.
Well, I read some of your ISO in this one in which you were town. And surprisingly meta actually seems to be vaguely useful for once and I see your point. Like, I probably would've called you scum for the same reasons if I was in that game but you flipped town.
Looking at you as scum here, you actually seem more aggressive which is the opposite of what I would expect.
I am still not convinced that this makes you town, becuase meta can be changed, and you kind of ignored the other aspect of my accusation: the shallow pseudo-scumhunting. I'm not sure how to pursue this further, but I am not scumreading you much any more. I will retract my vote for now.
UNVOTE: davesaz
At the moment I am seeing Ranger, The Silver Bard and pisskop as town.
Maybe we should just lynch gameplay or Davsto or something, most of the active people actually seem pretty town to me. Davsto is not doing much and he just voted for someone who I am pretty certain is town.
So it may seem like he was intentionally ignoring you not to bring the attention on you. But at the same time he could've just assumed you're town early on and focus on other people.
Apart from you, no one else claimed having been in a PT with him though, and he surely must've used his power so that's a plus for you.
Still, it's not 100% conclusive to me. Sigh.Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
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