Blitz 6: Normal! [Game Over]

[Titus]

Lhix, where did you play?

VOTE: Mala

[Titus]

Yes. I suppose I am used to something more conservative and less random or "silly". All in goodness I suppose. Though, I am a sucker for analysis. How are you doing today/night?

Doing fine. It's afternoon here at the moment.

Which brings up another point, for everyone's attention.

(Obviously) I live in an Australian timezone and will frequently be asleep when American and European players are around. This is more of an issue in a blitz than in a usual game, so keep it in mind if you wish to talk with me. I recommend http://xkcd.com/1335/ for keeping track.

Australia is roughly 12 hours from the U.S.

[Titus]

Totes here.

This game needs out of RVS.

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To do that, time for a counter.

VOTE: pignash

Townreads like candy and you resemble the last mini normal.

[Titus]

Totes here.

This game needs out of RVS.

Are you up to date?

Without two wagons, a game is in RVS to me. I read best by relationships.

[Titus]

Catching up. Holy crap. I do sleep.

[Titus]

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you resemble the last mini normal.

Is this referring to NY 190? (Technically a large, but not a big one.) Without really good cause I don't want to read ~130 pages of game to get context for pignash replacing in on page ~120, and I have some reservations about the meta value of such a late replace in any event.

Can you explain the similarity between his play there and here?

Yes that's what I meant.

He's lurking and sheeping mostly.

[Titus]

VOTE: Loha

Aquanum and Yakko would the next pick.

Loha votes me for reasons that aren't clear. The only thing I said was I needed a counter to itep to get things going. That indicates not much is alignment indicative.

Loha sheeps that thought process, but votes me. If he thinks my thought process is scummy, why would he follow it? If he doesn't, then why is he voting me?

All around, that's pretty bad. If I am right, itepip is almost certainly town.

[Titus]

I say there's not much here until I see a counter wagon.
In the post Loha votes me, he says there's nothing alignment indicative.

My post was pretty fucking clear. It's like people cannot understand English. :@

[Titus]

Farside moves down several notches unless I am wrong and itepip is scum.

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@farside, cause it's not. The only thing that vote did was eliminate itpip and Lola as buddies.

You can quibble my use of the word buddying, but Loha voting me for reasons he agreed with is rather scummy.

Voting a survival wagon isn't scummy. It's natural instinct unless ipip was explicitly town reading Loha. I didn't see that.

[Titus]

The self vote and survival vote come from the same place. Emotional evasion to not get lynched. Ipip is not thinking or playing logically. It's transparent there. Survivalism isn't scummy.

His motivations are clear there. It's the same place I was in during FF7.


Seriously, I just said the blooded five times. I guess I will have to bold and quote until you get it.

[Titus]

Totes here.

This game needs out of RVS.

To do that, time for a counter.

VOTE: pignash

Townreads like candy and you resemble the last mini normal.

Totes here.

This game needs out of RVS.

Are you up to date?

Without two wagons, a game is in RVS to me. I read best by relationships.

I've read the thread and can't recall a single alignment indicative argument, so we're still in-between RVS and what comes next.

[redacted not about me]

VOTE: Titus

[redacted]

Loha was agreeing me about game state, says nothing about me being scummy.

That's pretty damn clear.

[Titus]

Aqua, Loha had fewer posts than me. He was lurking and prod dodging. He voted me after I suggested a counter to ipip. He provides no reason.

He was chainsawing to get ipip lynched. Pretty obvious to me. Ipip then voting Loha sealed that.


Ding, Nostaferu just coached Loha.

[Titus]

Farside, what the hell are you talking about?

Derp.

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Eh that sounds well reasoned bullshit. I mean I get what you're saying but why would scum titus bring attention to themselves creating a half assed counter wagon? Nah nah I'm thinking titus is town.

If itlepip is scum, or if itlepip is town but there were scum on his wagon already, what would you expect a scum-Titus to do in that situation?

Bear in mind that (IIRC) there were no other wagons of any description active at the time.

Scum Titus would take control of the thread. :-p

You have not played with scum Titus.

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Eh that sounds well reasoned bullshit. I mean I get what you're saying but why would scum titus bring attention to themselves creating a half assed counter wagon? Nah nah I'm thinking titus is town.

If itlepip is scum, or if itlepip is town but there were scum on his wagon already, what would you expect a scum-Titus to do in that situation?

Bear in mind that (IIRC) there were no other wagons of any description active at the time.

Scum Titus would take control of the thread. :-p

You have not played with scum Titus.

Awfully boastful.

I am about my scumgame. Even if town lynches me with guilties, fake or real as scum, my buddies still kick a lot of ass.

My town game has been pretty hot lately if I don't get bothered tunnelling the wrong targets early because people treat me like shit. So yeah.

[Titus]

vote: Pip

Stop being dumb. Laho is scum.

[Titus]

vote: Pip

Stop being dumb. Laho is scum.

What is your townread on Pip based on besides your scumread on LaHo?

I don't work like that. People start as town. Scummy actions (which ipip has none) do that.

Farside backing off Laho pings like a motherfucker, doubly so because she's voting the counter.

[Titus]

And add to that associated with no flip.
Lets go wagon

My Ocean and Persivul reads were unflipped associatives.

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I don't work like that. People start as town. Scummy actions (which ipip has none) do that.

Farside backing off Laho pings like a motherfucker, doubly so because she's voting the counter.

I found these posts by itlepip reflective of scum motivaion because they're pointing suspicion at other players but not really pressuring for more information in any way:

Spoiler:

Saying that your play was what you thought was normal and therefore not suspicious I find very suspicious.

Dear god I feel like I want 2 votes now

You have 2 with yakko sheeping you...
Was that vote in or out of RVS, cause I have no idea.

Dear god I feel like I want 2 votes now

You have 2 with yakko sheeping you...
Was that vote in or out of RVS, cause I have no idea.

You sound disgusted? Maybe I'm reading that wrong. Any particular reason you pointed it out but made zero attempts to figure out why I was sheeping? I like my vote more now.

i was still in RVS, that was just a comment supposed to be taken lightly. It wasn't meant to be personnel.

Also how would I be able this early in the game to give an explanation of your sheeping, most likely it was just a joking RVS sheep, but if my vote was serious than an RVS vote is bad. You could be scum trying a sheeping strategy early but there isn't much evidence for that. There also could be some scum thing I did early that you guys are reacting to, but I have absolutely no idea what it is.

Can you explain why you don't find that scummy?

Cuz it's not. You can observe a pattern without asking a question. That's what I do as town.

Questions can easily be used to shape a conversation.

Pattern observation gets responses.

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I don't work like that. People start as town. Scummy actions (which ipip has none) do that.

Farside backing off Laho pings like a motherfucker, doubly so because she's voting the counter.

I found these posts by itlepip reflective of scum motivaion because they're pointing suspicion at other players but not really pressuring for more information in any way:

Spoiler:

Saying that your play was what you thought was normal and therefore not suspicious I find very suspicious.

Dear god I feel like I want 2 votes now

You have 2 with yakko sheeping you...
Was that vote in or out of RVS, cause I have no idea.

Dear god I feel like I want 2 votes now

You have 2 with yakko sheeping you...
Was that vote in or out of RVS, cause I have no idea.

You sound disgusted? Maybe I'm reading that wrong. Any particular reason you pointed it out but made zero attempts to figure out why I was sheeping? I like my vote more now.

i was still in RVS, that was just a comment supposed to be taken lightly. It wasn't meant to be personnel.

Also how would I be able this early in the game to give an explanation of your sheeping, most likely it was just a joking RVS sheep, but if my vote was serious than an RVS vote is bad. You could be scum trying a sheeping strategy early but there isn't much evidence for that. There also could be some scum thing I did early that you guys are reacting to, but I have absolutely no idea what it is.

Can you explain why you don't find that scummy?

Cuz it's not. You can observe a pattern without asking a question. That's what I do as town.

Questions can easily be used to shape a conversation.

Pattern observation gets responses.

I don't think any of those posts were ever likely to result in interesting responses.

That's probably why you don't play that way. What you're highlighting is play style NOT scummy.

[Titus]

@Lhix,

I will back you after we lynch Laho scum. Maybe Farside too.

There'sno point in you sepuukuing while we have a wagon on scum. Come back.

[Titus]

And add to that associated with no flip.
Lets go wagon

My Ocean and Persivul reads were unflipped associatives.

Hello lying scum
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

There was no scum read in persivul day 1 based on association.

Yes there was. Persivul's push on me I called out. I said "You can be scum too" regarding his push on me.

You didn't reread that ISO.

My last reads were Ocean AND Persivul needed to die.

[Titus]

Do not turn this game into another Blitz 1, you two.

I had scum and did everything right. The best way to avoid repeating it is for people to actually lynch scum.

[Titus]

Whether an unflipped associative read has, in a single game, turned out to be right is not relevant to whether they are a good idea in general.

I am NOT talking about that game here and now, besides to say that I do not intend to let this game become a similar shitshow. If you want to justify your play there do it postgame.

Seriously, I pegged scum and had an all town wagon on scum, what the fuck should I do differently?

I even tried working with people. Got an lol nope.

At some point, it just ain't my fault.

[Titus]

What do I gotta do to get you to vote Laho Aquarius? Do the funky comadina?

*dances*

[Titus]

What do I gotta do to get you to vote Laho Aquarius? Do the funky comadina?

*dances*

I'm thinking about LaHo. I don't townread him.

Feel free to think out loud.

[Titus]

Farside, really? You go through the hassle to remember my alleged activity level (p.s. I had a bit of work and Saturday game night) but cannot remember I almost never bus as scum?

You are also saying my case is weak and therefore scummy? That's markedly different from how to treat me meta wise.

You're also patently trying vague unknown assoiatives by stating whatever ipip/Laho flip, I'm scum.

That's narrative crafting. Pick a side. You had a scumread on Laho but backed off because my case was weak allegedly.

No, you backed off because the Laho wagon might go through. If you were concerned about my vote, you merely would have unvoted, not vote the major counter wagon.

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Vote: Yakko

Unvote

I'm just joking around tbh. Day was pretty stressful and decided to just let a little steam out. Anywho, I will think about it.

Mod: TheLhx isn't voting me. VC error?

[Titus]

Yeah you do. You're trying to provoke me into perceived anti-town behavior and avoiding discussing substance. You're trying to avoid discussing your bus vote on Laho. Loha. Whatever.

[Titus]

@Whoever asked

Farside did plenty of testing the waters before her vote.

[Titus]

@Whoever asked

Farside did plenty of testing the waters before her vote.

You're missing the point. If Farside wants an itlepip lynch today and does not want a LoHa lynch, why would Farside "test the waters" for a LoHa vote?

She settled on itlepip. It wasn't by design. LoHa is scum. Farside distances a bit, and the rumblings pick up. Farside votes later. That buddies me and provides distance. Not expecting it to take off, Farside votes the counter.

[Titus]

You're starting from the right point, but seeing the word thing. Look at the word choice. Farside says lazy and weird, not scummy and provides an opportunity to explain. Town might use this to investigate but it functions even better to determine if she can or cannot get on the wagon. If it doesn't catch on, she just takes the position on her buddy being weird.If it catches on, she busses. A town likely votes Loha at 191.

Second, why are you focusing more on Farside when I am pushing for Loha lynch?

[Titus]

You're starting from the right point, but seeing the word thing. Look at the word choice. Farside says lazy and weird, not scummy and provides an opportunity to explain. Town might use this to investigate but it functions even better to determine if she can or cannot get on the wagon. If it doesn't catch on, she just takes the position on her buddy being weird.If it catches on, she busses. A town likely votes Loha at 191.

Second, why are you focusing more on Farside when I am pushing for Loha lynch?

If you have built this whole case on why Farside is scum, why are you not trying to start a farside wagon?

It's built on the assumption of Loha scum.

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You're starting from the right point, but seeing the word thing. Look at the word choice. Farside says lazy and weird, not scummy and provides an opportunity to explain.

I give people opportunity to explain themselves frequently. Not buying that one.

Town might use this to investigate but it functions even better to determine if she can or cannot get on the wagon.

There IS no wagon at that stage. Why would Farside be trying to work out if she can run a wagon on her buddy, when she could just... not, and sit on her reasonably popular Pip wagon?

A town likely votes Loha at 191.

I didn't vote LoHa based on what was in the thread at 191.

Second, why are you focusing more on Farside when I am pushing for Loha lynch?

Your Farside read makes very little sense and I am trying to work out whether you can possibly believe it as town.

That's why it's called shopping a wagon.

Trying to work it out, or are you the third wheel? I'll figure out soon enough.

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Again, why so focused on Farside when Loha must be flipped first for any of it to have a point?

Second, if Farside had as much "pull" as you state, why doesn't she say Loha is town? She doesn't. She calls my case weak, but never says he's town when inviting him. She doesn't say he's town when she's paranoid over him.

[Titus]

*inviting = unvoting.

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To unvote, she should or say her target is scummier.

If you think a wagon is wrong, it's a duty to try of any town.

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VLA 12 hours

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@Kop, the agreeing word choice quibble again. Town don't vote someone who they agree with and say nothing else about them. I looked like an easy shot because I was prodded.

Big mistake.

@Kop, Nothing in Pig Nash changed but he's town by PoE.

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In the meantime, everyone should explain their votes for LoHa. There's one vote based on LoHa misremembering who said something (Soren), one vote based on an argument that's already been shot down in flames (Titus), one blatant self-preservation vote (itlepip), and three with no explanation at all (TheLhix, Pisskop, Yakko). Whichever of you are townies should be ashamed of yourselves.

My arguments have been discredited not shot down.

[Titus]

@Nos are you saying titus was accidentally right?

Discredit much?

You may not get my logic but I am on fire lately.

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So can mod modkill him for playing against his wincon and not selfvoting?

Oh shoot, 1 + 1 = 3. I think that covers my role. Also someone hammer please.

Seriously, pregnant whore is not a normal role. :-p

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@LoHa

: From one Teamliquid expatriate to another... this forum operates much less on ego-boosting and shit-flinging arguments. (Mostly.) Getting a feel for the different meta here is very important. (Same goes for Lhix on that score, actually.)

And yes Titus, your read is being "discredited" because, quite simply, it is worth no credit. Right or wrong, it was terrible.

To repeat myself again: agreeing with you that not much has happened in the thread is NOT a reason he should townread you. Scum frequently make accurate statements.

He shouldn't vote someone whom the only thing he says is he agrees with me. That's the issue. It's a scumclaim. You're placing a strawman.

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@LoHa

: From one Teamliquid expatriate to another... this forum operates much less on ego-boosting and shit-flinging arguments. (Mostly.) Getting a feel for the different meta here is very important. (Same goes for Lhix on that score, actually.)

And yes Titus, your read is being "discredited" because, quite simply, it is worth no credit. Right or wrong, it was terrible.

To repeat myself again: agreeing with you that not much has happened in the thread is NOT a reason he should townread you. Scum frequently make accurate statements.

He shouldn't vote someone whom the only thing he says is he agrees with me. That's the issue. It's a scumclaim. You're placing a strawman.

I don't see why. My opinion is that you had done very little to advance the thread at that point. If you're aware that it's a problem, but have done next-to-nothing about it, that's pretty scummy.

You mean I kept my post count low til I caught scum is a problem?

[Titus]

i gotta admit titus not coming out to play ball worries me

Had dinner with the hubs.

[Titus]

@Mala, You were lurking sitewide. Why would I attack you for your IRL?

[Titus]

I mean titus has only interacted with Lhix twice this whole game, both of which doesn't stand out as super scummy or super town.

Just I'm not buying this whole "CW crap" when its pretty damn pbv theres no CW to Loha right now.

I am the CW to Loha scum.

[Titus]

If loha flips scum I'm after an aqua lynch.

If Loha doesn't flip I'm after an aqua lynch/

Don't mind this.

[Titus]

I wasn't lurking. I was just busy with work, but I haven't been posting much sitewide. You have always in the past called me out for it regardless of whether it was true or not. So the fact you haven't bothers me to no end.

Cuz I knew it was sitewide IRL. Calling you out goes to the void. We're in multiple games.

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This dance has been fun and all but I think it has reached its end.

I counterclaim Bodyguard.

Not impossible there are two, I suppose. It's not that useful a role so I don't feel bad about claiming it d1.

Intent to hammer LoHa.

And why try to wagon me then?

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Aqua, Loha had fewer posts than me. He was lurking and prod dodging. He voted me after I suggested a counter to ipip. He provides no reason.

He was chainsawing to get ipip lynched. Pretty obvious to me. Ipip then voting Loha sealed that.


Ding, Nostaferu just coached Loha.

Just saying.

Let's go for the sweep.

[Titus]

Finished reading up, LaHo is probably scum, don't necessarily see Titus's reasons for it.

pip looks a lot better.

not liking lhix; I'm having trouble reading his sudden mood swings, feels like

I'm listening to a girl on her period

idk how I feel about Titus v Farside looks kind of TvT to me

would like for mala pig and kop to post more

Aqua and Yakko read town to me.

Never ever make the underlined like that again.

VOTE: Farside

Peeled a wagon from scum
No interactions with NoS
Mala pig kop post more after NoS just being called out for coaching...not likely

[Titus]

Loha hard defends Farside too.

[Titus]

you two are always so good to each other.

Kop come on, it ain't personal. If NoS hadn't flipped this would be just a pressure but the circumstantial case is insane

[Titus]

Loha hard defends Farside too.

Are you talking about this?

[3] LoHa ~ farside22, Soren, TheLhix

If scum is on me it's either Titus or TheLhix or both.

Yup.

[Titus]

Oh whoever shot NoS should claim IMO.

[Titus]

Aqua, I said NoS was coaching LoHa telling him to scumhunt. NoS, seeing I perceived that, is highly unlikely to repeat that his buddy needs to post more. It's not about whether the assessment is true but rather him avoiding links.

[Titus]

Aqua, wasn't my Loha point "weak" too?

[Titus]

Let's not get into that, shall we?
I'm sure we both have all sorts of uncomplimentary things to say about the other's play.

I wasn't trying to make this personal but just asking for your vote because I was right before and you were wrong. Your vote should help sort Farside and show who is right or wrong.

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...just asking for your vote because I was right before and you were wrong.

That's not how this works. You convince me you're right, then you get my vote.

The evidence showed I was right. My case is stronger but you dismiss it without an alternative. Why?

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Also pretty sure I never townread LoHa.

So you randomly counter wagoned on behalf of someone you were null reading or scu reading hours before deadline?

[Titus]

UNVOTE: Farside

This is a blitz game. Scum are not likely to fake connections. Masons register as false positives to my method of scumhunting frequently. Both have easy townreads with no explanation and start ahead of town. I look at thought patterns, abberations, survival tendencies, and logic gaps. Masons have that as you start with knowledge the rest of us lack.

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Back to my original reads.

VOTE: Aqua

You're going to explain your wagon attempts better than lol. You're going to explain why you trued to counter wagon me rather than just outright CCing so close to deadline.

There's also the bonus you're in the middle on wagons that aren't scum wagons.

Lol = Policy lynch.

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Back to my original reads.

VOTE: Aqua

You're going to explain your wagon attempts better than lol. You're going to explain why you trued to counter wagon me rather than just outright CCing so close to deadline.

There's also the bonus you're in the middle on wagons that aren't scum wagons.

Lol = Policy lynch.

Ok you get to awnser my question little girl.
What is the point of claiming bg after?

Save himself from a Titus tunnel + avoiding any vig shot that may exist

[Titus]

The scumkill was made as a discrediting tool.

Pugnash was shit. He admitted he matched his play from prior scum ganes including random free townreads (scum indicator). Why would scum shoot someone like that? If you were dumb crumbing (didn't look), that would explain it but I would imagine that you wouldn't crumb masons.

So why would scum kill a mislynch, to discredit my gut and force me to reevaluate while hoping I overly fixate on you if I don't.

That kill points to Aqua or Yakko as the scum. I doubt Yakko cause VCA foundations. Aqua is good based off initial vca and terribad play to close out.

[Titus]

Sweet dreams?

[Titus]

cheetory's game

Oh that one. :-p

If it does match Cheetory's game, wouldn't voting Aqua still net you a scum?

[Titus]

Not scum but damn kop you lack follow through.

[Titus]

Lol. Kop really? Your push is so bad, I was highlighting why Aqua is scum.

@Farside, Soren's town.

[Titus]

Lols. I am not pussyfooting around at all.

The more you through weak around as the better I look as you're not addressing the statements (substance) but handwaiving.

You scum or just butthurt?

[Titus]

@all, thoughts on Pisskop? If there is a vig then scum have to attack and weaken obvtown. Aqua's utter lack of hostility towards me makes zero sense unless he thinks I am really dumb.

[Titus]

I dont think massclaiming rn is a good idea. We dont know if theres an sk, which would mean all the mafias are dead. We dont need to.

Ewwww
I was thinking 3 group scum plus SK high powered town.

You are assuming a lot.

[Titus]

and youre assuming that the game is highpowered without evidence.

there are 2 flipped

goons

, tell me why its high powered again?

Two goons w Sk is too low.

3 goons with vig ok SK balanced.

Plus 2 masons 2 group scum breaks the never have as many conftown as scum rule.

[Titus]

VOTE: pisskop

[Titus]

okay. Why is she town?

Lynched scum. Was counterwagon to scum.

[Titus]

okay. Why is she town?

Lynched scum. Was counterwagon to scum.

Case sucked.
Your reasoning behind it was terrible and the associations before a flip all read as scum bussing.
I already showed why before.

Ego.

Case was fine. It got people to lynch Loha obvscum. Rather than just saying I am weak because you disagree, you never think I could be right.

You thought the Ocean Persivul case was weak in Blitz One too. Ever consider that you're just dismissing facts as weak?

[Titus]

The vote from pip. Opportunistic as fuck. I like it even more now. Go ahead and hang him.

I 100% accept this, but it doesn't mean that LoHa isn't scum.

TLDR: Titus is a god and you should just give in and follow whatever she says, because if she is town we will win and if she is scum the game is already over...

Dangit, I was liking Titus's defense of me .

Also not a fan of pisskops pings that seem to just be following the aqua-farside-yakko groupthink.

[Titus]

okay. Why is she town?

Lynched scum. Was counterwagon to scum.

Case sucked.
Your reasoning behind it was terrible and the associations before a flip all read as scum bussing.
I already showed why before.

Ego.

Case was fine. It got people to lynch Loha obvscum. Rather than just saying I am weak because you disagree, you never think I could be right.

You thought the Ocean Persivul case was weak in Blitz One too. Ever consider that you're just dismissing facts as weak?

You never made a case on persivul first off and second not even in the same category.

I didn't wall Persivul but I laid out why he was scum a lot. Don't need a wall to have a strong case.

[Titus]

Scum is 100% in Aqua, Pisskop, Yakko.

Take the bet Farside?

[Titus]

Scum is 100% in Aqua, Pisskop, Yakko.

Take the bet Farside?

No consequences. Scum's 100% in there Farside. What's your pool?

[Titus]

TITUS, WHY AM I BUTTHURT? OVER WHAT? WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NONSENSE
AND BETS WHEN YOU FLAT OUT IGNORE HONEST QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR CHOICE OF WORDS?

Cuz you won't vote scum when I'm proven right/smart. By your logic when I bus, I bus hard, which means scum are in my pool anyway.

You aren't putting honest questions but raving like a lunatic.

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''right/smart''? How? You made a vote some of us consider sketchy on obvscum.

Really, stretch much. I pushed Loha into lynched status. No one thought my vote was scummy at the time but but hurt Farside. That's only because she was quibbling over word choice.

All you're doing is yelling obvscum.

[Titus]

Titus, you cant pretend I dont put stock into what you say after all the games we've been in. Its insulting, and it comes off as scummy.

No true Scotsman straw man.

[Titus]

Then wht were you saying? Because it sounds to me like youre using ad hominem attacks and discrediting whatever you can to get a lynch without actually making a case.

When?

My case on Aqua is clear. BG cc yet tries to counter me. Middle of Soren wagon but not itep
You, throwing shameless dirt on obvtown because scum cannot win with two obvtown.
Yakko, stuck in middle of wagons, 180 his read on me (didn't say Yakko but hey might as well).

What there is ad hominem?

That's the pool. Farside would be there but mason so...

[Titus]

Well whatever can't deal with kop rn so even if titus is town I'm okay with their lynch. Plus I have no idea what alignment titus is. So far pisskop have proven himself worth of a sheep vote. pisskop hard carry.

Let's see here...Pisskop has baby rage and I catch scum and he's worthy of sheep?

Wtf!

[Titus]

Dawg I have no clue what you're saying half the time. Sorry, no offense, but it's true.

Bullshit. You might ask a question indicating confusion.

You can't recycle what others say.

[Titus]

@Lhix/Soren, who do you think is scum?

I am down for voting say of the three in my pool but only those three.

[Titus]

Titus's quote in her sig is my exact thought about the game right now.

Yeah, I am having this for the last 2 pages, I don't understand really what Titus or pisskop is getting at, so

Titus says Pisskop is baselessly yelling Titus is scum and is scum because that's what scum must do here.

[Titus]

VOTE: yakko

Yakko is voting any wagon with a pulse here.

The post you are objecting to by Soren is overconfident town. LoHa's vote on Soren was not a bus.

[Titus]

First blitz game, we've lost almost 1 third of our day and we haven't gone past rvs stage yet. That's concerning.

Welcome farside! Nice to be playing with you again ~
I town read farside's entrance to the game, she goes straight down to business.

Kakashi just looks bad with his "sillyness" act and should stop and play normally.

Just quoted a few posts quickly from Soren's ISO. All observations. The case is Soren does nothing? Really?

How about listening to me when I actually provide true cases rather than threatening to lynch me because my cases are weak to pursue bullshit.

Yakko Pisskop Aqua scums are in there.

Any coincidence they are all on Soren?

[Titus]

GG

that mala lynch should of never happened

...yeah, pretty much

Titus, something for you to remember: when you wanted to lynch

LoHa

there was interest and eventually it happened, even if many of us didn't like your case in particular. When you wanted to lynch

Farside

,

myself

,

Yakko

and

Pisskop

nobody was interested.

Moral of the story - there's more than one reason for people to disagree with you, and it's not always that they are awful or scum.

(Second moral of the story - when your entire mindset appears to be built around OMGUS you don't get taken seriously.)

Wow. Did I say everyone who disagreed was horrible or scum? That's belittling.

Masons register as false positives to me. The reason is there was a townread that was not based in evidence. That's true of scum.

Yako registered as a false positive because he was killing people and sensitive about it. That vig on me was horrible.

Pisskop was attacking obvious town, which only served scum.

Aqua was attempting to wagon town while knowing we wagoned scum. That's lynchworthy.

Town got really lucky here. I was wrong, but seriously I have zero idea how town won this.

[Titus]

GG everyone.

[Titus]

Yeah, kinda hated myself for not shooting kop. My b.

Gg. It's ok. At least you know why I suspected you.