Blitz 4: Kingmaker (game over)

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/confirm I have literally no idea how this setup works

Titus is scum tho

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For fun!

Any other relevant information I should know?

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I don't have a scum pt unfortunately could you add me to yours?

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??? I'm not sure I understand this game.

Also Titus Kop isn't in this game???

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Sakura are you scum this game?

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^ I don't really like that post.

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Soft-spoken is town

I think king should get texcat blockyman or accountant

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That's a huge leap. How does me saying I don't like something make me scum?

And it's because that seems like the standard "easy" thing for scum to jump on. You really think scum would slip on their role PM color in their first post? You didn't even consider it could be a reaction test?

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texcat you are very quick to call things scum itg which is very different from how I remember you as town before.

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I'm not an alt.

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Sakura watchu doin

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Sakura is probably scum

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I have read literally nothing but she's not in the thick of things which I don't like

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I'm a tad tipsy rn so I will dismantle Accountant's whatever on me tomorrow

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Fuck Titus might be scum

@Smithereens I think I can read Sakura so I want her to be in the thick of things so I can get my bearings with her. Not a fan of her very few posts so far.

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I could see Smithereens being scum.

Trying to latch onto something easy to argue against (read: your bad reasons for suspecting me) without letting me even react to it.

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wtf is doubt casting

@Accountant considering I haven't read the game yet no I will not do that.

And yes I said "could" because I HAVEN'T READ THIS GAME YET AND AM NOT COMMITTING TO THE READ

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I have been making observations and pointing things out as I see them.

If you guys want to blow this shit out of proportion be my guest.

Sakura is scum btw

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Firebringer that is the worst post I have seen in this entire thread.

And that is saying something.

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Ugh now you guys pissed me the fuck off so I'm reading this drunk against my better judgement.

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Sakura I was just about to call you out on that you're lucky

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I was going to say that there's no way you could think this is scum me.

But I guess you didn't unvote awk

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Accountant no

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OK.
VOTE: Spiffeh

He seemed a little hyperdefensive when I asked him to explain his I-don't-like-it post.
Still not a fan of Soft-spoken, but it could just be a style issue.

Um I was explaining why I thought your posts were jumps in logic? How was it hyper defensive?

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Ok, I am removing Smithereens from the lynch today. It is possible she's scum and is faking, I don't think so. I'm inclined to give the newbie time unless someone makes a good case for her being scum as that's close to a town tell.

Now as for the lynch, you can vote anyone but me or Smithereens. After 36 hours, everyone who lacks a vote will not be the lynch. Any wagon reaching hammer will be the lynch. I will not have a vote for these purposes but I function as a bad wagon vetoed (which I plan to use sparingly, basically if a wagon is driven only by fallacies or insults).

Good luck.

I would expect town Titus to be a lot less crowd pleasing as the king so I don't like this post.

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texcat you are very quick to call things scum itg which is very different from how I remember you as town before.

This is literally textbook doubtcasting.

"which is very different from how I remember you as town before" is a meta argument.

Note how he doesn't directly call tex scum so if tex flips town he can go "but I didn't say tex was scum, I just said he acted differently from what I remember of him as town". If town!Spiffeh really was leaning scum on tex, he would come right out and say so instead of sniping at him like this.

You are really fighting for some narrative that you want to be true and I can already tell it would be a fucking chore to try and convince you otherwise.

But I'm not one to back down so

Maybe I didn't commit to calling her scum because it was like the second page? I am making observations. I'm not going to commit to a read on it so get over it. How on earth is this worse than texcat's style of "call everything that moves scum". I noticed a difference in her playstyle and pointed it out. The texcat I remembered from the game we played was a lot more level headed and sure as hell wasn't so quick to call things scum.

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Hold your horses omg

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spiffeh, can you explain your TR on me? it stands out as a stark contrast to the poking people with twigs thing you have been doing otherwise.

It's mostly gut and I didn't like how you seemed to be universally scum read at the time for some ridiculous reason.

You know kinda like how I am now

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I don't mind being jumped on but at least make it a good fucking reason

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That's a lie actually I hate being jumped on and it always leads to me OMGUSing the person doing it

I am proud of myself for not doing that yet

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I think Accountant is town

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Although Accountant I am curious as to what you think about texcat?

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Ok, I am removing Smithereens from the lynch today. It is possible she's scum and is faking, I don't think so. I'm inclined to give the newbie time unless someone makes a good case for her being scum as that's close to a town tell.

Now as for the lynch, you can vote anyone but me or Smithereens. After 36 hours, everyone who lacks a vote will not be the lynch. Any wagon reaching hammer will be the lynch. I will not have a vote for these purposes but I function as a bad wagon vetoed (which I plan to use sparingly, basically if a wagon is driven only by fallacies or insults).

Good luck.

I would expect town Titus to be a lot less crowd pleasing as the king so I don't like this post.

If you want to be more helpful, try explaining why this cannot be perceived as townie.

It can be I'm just saying that I feel like town Titus wouldn't go about it this way.

I mean I am not like a Titus meta-savant or anything I just think it's too "safe" for her idk

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Titus better not submit anything for awhile though Sakura needs to do things so I can read her.

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Sakura who are your top 2 scum reads?

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I mean it was page two did you really expect there to be irrefutable evidence or something?

Yeah it sounded absolute but that's just how I talk.

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page three*

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Sakura I really hope this is your way of trying to get a read on me because I don't see you can actually be convinced of Accountant's argument.

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My gut tells me you're town. Should I listen to it?

Seriously Titus what is the point of this question?

It looks like you're just trying to endear yourself to him.

Also I haven't read since I've last posted but so this and felt the need to call it out.

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Idk I think Titus is still sketchy af

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Which town tell was that?

Maybe I should read this

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I have no idea what you're talking about

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Oh yeah idk how I missed that

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That makes no sense

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If you don't think I'm town you shouldn't give a fuck who is on my wagon

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Sakura is still scum btw

VOTE: Sakura Hana

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And now it just looks like you're underplaying your criticism of Accountant.

VOTE: Spiffeh

?

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Sakura you're sheeping a shitty case on me and I think you're better than that. You haven't really done any scum hunting of anyone else which is a stark contrast from a game we just finished together where you were town.

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I am far more confident in Sakura being scum than anyone else in this game. I don't really think that has ever been in question.

Yes Accountant's case on me was bad and his unvote doesn't make any sense but I was town reading him up until that point and his case on me proves that he's not the most rational player.

I'm not downplaying or abandoning anything?

You've literally seen quoted posts of mine this game where I have made observations and moved on. So I don't know what makes this any different.

Sakura ok then prove me wrong I look forward to it.

Titus who makes up your current town block and who are you leaning towards executing?

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@Sakura Because he went into it with his mind already made up. He took what I posted and constructed some narrative that he wanted to be exist, which I don't mind that early in the game But it's still bad. Think Feysal's "case" on me in Scarlet Devil.

@texcat I explained this in a recent post of mine but it's mostly meta. I realize she said she had been away this weekend and that's fine and if she's town I think she'll obvtown soon enough. Doesn't mean I'm thrilled with what she HAS provided, especially when I think she should realize I am town by now.

PEdit: Sakura what is scummy about "throwing accusations" (which is like not even close to what I'm doing anyway)?

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What's fake?

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I think I have said "X is town" like once and I really don't see how saying that for the first time this game makes me scum?

PEdit: can you provide some examples you think are fake and explain why?

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Sakura are you really fussing about reasons for reads AFTER EMBODIMENT OF SCARLET DEVIL?

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suffering about my*** reasons for reads

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Also I did give reasons for my then scumread of Smithereens and scum read of Titus sooooo

PEdit:
Ugh I mean to say "fussing about my*** reasons for reads"

I'm bad stop

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And I called you scum because of meta; just because I don't state the exact reason at that time doesn't mean the reasons don't exist

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Ok, I am removing Smithereens from the lynch today. It is possible she's scum and is faking, I don't think so. I'm inclined to give the newbie time unless someone makes a good case for her being scum as that's close to a town tell.

Now as for the lynch, you can vote anyone but me or Smithereens. After 36 hours, everyone who lacks a vote will not be the lynch. Any wagon reaching hammer will be the lynch. I will not have a vote for these purposes but I function as a bad wagon vetoed (which I plan to use sparingly, basically if a wagon is driven only by fallacies or insults).

Good luck.

I would expect town Titus to be a lot less crowd pleasing as the king so I don't like this post.

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So Sakura you're saying that all reasons for statements such as "I think ______ is scum" must be attached or you consider them fake?

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Sakura I'm not trying to get into a tunnel that obviously didn't work last time.

I'm trying to be more expansive in finding scum and not latching onto one thing.

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I said I was fine with your reasons for your absence and that I think you will obvtown for me if you are actually town.

Votes don't even mean anything in this game and it doesn't mean the posts of yours I didn't like have disappeared.

When you come back please present your reads of the rest of the game.

PEdit: Yes when I notice people want reasons for my reads I provide them. You're acting like people have had to twist my arm to get me to explain my reads when that's not the case.

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Accountant explain why you care who's on my wagon when you still hold to the belief that I'm not town?

Titus they are basically non-entities and don't remember anything they posted.

I wouldn't mind a BlockyMan execution actually

UH OH I DIDN'T GIVE A REASON EVERYONE POINT THAT OUT FOR TOWN CRED

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he gave reasons for titus too.

Well yeah... way later, after he was getting attacked for not giving out reasons and just throwing accusations.

Accountant only gave her reasons after she was attacked too, yet you didn't have an issue with her.

Sakura can you respond to this actually?

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I don't really have many town reads I am very confident in because you are all scumfucks

To varying degrees, I am town reading Soft-spoken, Silver Bard, Firebringer, and kiiiiiindaaaaa Wander

My top three executions are Blockyman, texcat, and Sakura.

The rest are all pretty much null.

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Titus why not shoot Block or texcat?

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What are your thoughts on Sakura?

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I don't see anything wrong with a lurker lynch D1 in this setup.

Especially since he has provided literally nothing and looks like a chore to read anyway (talking about Blocky)

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Titus tbh I think Accountant is a really bad D1 kill.

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Ok do what you gotta do

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Yeah I think Accountant would give so much more of a shit if he was actually scum.

Blocky is the ideal shot.

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Don't say that like that's some scummy post because it's not.

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Don't say that like that's some scummy post because it's not.

It is. It suggests Accountant and her buddy are making a better target for me to shoot so she doesn't have to be afraid.

Who are you saying is her buddy in this scenario?

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Well I mostly see all your town reads town reading her which is why I ask.

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So when do you suggest we get rid of him?

He can't just be allowed to coast like this.

I'd expect scum to keep them alive for a future easy target to push.

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I am ok w/ my reads this game.

At least in the dead chat

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Titus why did you think I was Hero?

I thought I was just being my normal self lol

I guess I did try to egg you on to execute me because I thought you were scum but I don't think I would have been too different as not the hero

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I could not vanquish Scumkara this time

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Scumkura* FUCK