Newbie 1131 - Game over

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

You awaken to the hustle and bustle of your home town’s daily activity. Little did you know that the peaceful quiet of your normal, everyday life would come crashing down today. It seems that one of your fellow citizens has angered the Mob, and has paid for it with his life! What are you going to do? Why, you’re going to get your peaceful, little town back, that’s what…

Your job, fair citizens of the town’s Ruling Council, is to discover who among you belong to the Mafia and summarily lynch them. Two of your fellow Council members are working for the Mafia - find them before they take over the Council and the town!

Player List

-

Confirmed players are listed in bold-face type

AndroidDreams

Demyx

Whiskers

(replaced Gingy, Fool_Hardy)

forehead7

haoala ^

Johhog

(replaced legend of mafia)

StefanB ^

Tajun

VitaminR *

* = Inexperience Challenged (IC)
^ = Semi-Experienced (SE)

The IC(s) are here to help you learn to play the game. Their play is governed by the wiki article Being a good IC.

Dead Players

Spoiler: Role Reveal

Johhog,

Townie

, lynched Day 1

No one was killed Night 1

haoala,

Mafia Rolecop

turned

Neutral Survivor

, Modkilled Day 2

Whiskers,

Townie

, lynched Day 2

AndroidDreams,

Jailkeeper

, killed Night 2

StefanB,

Townie

, lynched Day 3

Tajun,

Townie

, killed Night 3

forhead7,

Townie

, lynched Day 4

Demyx,

Towniee

, killed in Endgame

The

Mafia

team wins the game!

Game Links

• Day 1
  • Gingy replaced Fool_Hardy
    Whiskers replaced Gingy
    Johhog replaced legend of mafia
    Day 1 Final Vote Count/Lynch Scene
  
  
  Day 2
  • Day 2 Start
    haoala Mod-killed for Rules violation
    Day 2 Final Vote Count/Lynch Scene
  
  
  Day 3
  • Day 3 Start
    Day 3 Final Vote Count/Lynch Scene
  
  
  Day 4
  • Day 4 Start
    Day 4 Final Vote Count/Lynch Scene

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Game Rules

The Golden Rule

Please remember that this is a game and your main objective is to have fun! Be considerate of each other, don’t get personal, and enjoy the game. Playing to win does not preclude being considerate of each other!

There is a ZERO tolerance policy for personal attacks in this game. I will remove you from the game (possibly without warning) if you get too personal.

General Rules/Game Etiquette

1. In order for all players to play at least one game day this game will start with a Day phase.
   
2. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
   
3. You may not quote private Moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
   
4. Please remember that you made a commitment to participate when you signed up to play. If you cannot fulfill this commitment, please contact the Mod and request a replacement instead of just disappearing!
   
5. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.
   If someone contacts you outside the game you should report it to the game Mod IMMEDIATELY.

Activity/Prods/Replacements

1. You should aim for one post every 48 hours, minimum, to keep the game moving.
   
2. Prods of missing players will be issued upon request or after 3 real-life days of no activity.
   
3. A prodded player has 48 hours to respond to the prod, after which time a replacement search will begin. The prodded player may re-enter the game so long as no replacement has been found.
   
4. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to possible replacement without further notice (player-requested prods do not count towards this total).
   
5. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period please PM the Mod so that you don’t get replaced!

Deadlines

1. All Newbie games have strict 3-week deadlines.
   
   
2. Extensions are given only in extreme circumstances.
   
3. Nights will have a standard deadline of 72 hours.
   
4. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
   
5. Deadlines may be shortened if activity is too low, or if all Night choices have been received early.

Player Actions/Voting/Player Death

1. A simple majority of all living players must agree on one person (via voting) for a Lynch to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down). If no one has a simple majority of votes at deadline a No Lynch will occur.
   
2. Votes should be bolded or they may not be counted (e.g.
   Vote: Player
   ).
   
3. Vote revocations should be bolded or they may not be counted (e.g.
   Unvote: Player
   or
   Unvote
   ). Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
   
4. You may
   Vote: No Lynch
   - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a Lynch.
   
5. Votes/Unvotes should be placed on a line all by themselves to make them easier for everyone to see.
   
6. Votes/Unvotes that reasonably follow the guidelines specified above, and are unambiguous with respect to player nicknames/abbreviations, will count. Attempting to fake a vote will result in a Modkill.
   
7. Once a player has reached a simple majority of votes no further unvoting will change their fate.
   
8. When a player is lynched the game enters twilight until I post a death scene; all players may continue to post.
   
9. If you are killed (either via lynch or night kill) you may no longer post except for a brief “Bah!”-type post that contains NO game related information.
   
10. Roles with Night actions will not be able to submit an action on Night 0 (i.e. during the confirmation stage).
    
11. Any player with a Night action may instead submit a “No Action” PM to let the Mod know that you do not want to perform your expected action that Night phase.

Miscellaneous

1. Red
   or
   Purple
   text is reserved for the Mod.
   
2. No invisible/small/encrypted text is allowed.
   
   
3. Vote counts will be posted once per page or once per day, whichever is less.
   
4. If you have an issue/problem with the game, please PM the Mod privately. Do not post issues/complaints in the game thread.
   
5. The Mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
   
6. Please bold all requests to the Mod so that they don’t get missed.
   
   
7. Rules violations will be dealt with according to their severity (up to and including a Modkill) as the Mod sees fit.
   
8. Modkills may be accompanied by a change to day/night. The offender’s role will be changed to Neutral Survivor, which guarantees a loss.
   
9. Any situation not explicitly covered above is subject to Mod discretion and will be handled as the Mod sees fit on a case-by-case basis.

Helpful Links:

• Main Wiki Page
  
• Newbie Guide
  
• Frequently Asked Questions
  
• Commonly Used Abbreviations
  
• Mafia Theory
  Main Forum Rules and Guidelines

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

The 2of4 setup is a test game format we’re trying out in Newbie games to get around balance issues with the F11 setup. To prevent the development of game-breaking strategies, these Newbie Games are Semi-Open, wherein the actual game setup is randomly chosen as detailed below:

• 1 Mafia Goon
  
• 1 Mafia RoleCop
  
• 5 Vanilla Townies
  
• 2 of the following (no duplicates possible): (Cop 25%, Doctor 25%, Jailkeeper 25%, Vanilla Townie 25%)

Notes

1. The RoleCop has the option of submitting both the night kills and investigations, even when the Goon is still alive.
   
2. Mafia must specify who is performing what Night action when the Night action PM is submitted!

These are the Role PMs that have potentially been sent to the players:

Mafia-Aligned players:

Mafia

name

(a Mafia Role Cop) and

name

(a Mafia Goon) are part of the local Mafia crime family. Since your plot to quietly overtake the town has failed, you will attempt take it by force by eliminating the others until you outnumber the populace.

• During the day, try to blend in with the normal Townies and attempt to get someone lynched.
  
• During the NIGHT cycle ONLY, you may talk with your fellow Mafia (via QuickTopic, linked below) and choose another player in the town to kill that night.
  
• One of you must send the moderator a PM with your choice of who to kill
  and who is performing the kill
  before the Night deadline.
  
• The Mafia RoleCop has the ability to investigate another player and learn their specific role (Townie, Cop, Doc, or Jailkeeper).
  
• One of you must send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to investigate (usually along with the kill) before the Night deadline.
  
• If the Mafia RoleCop is blocked by a Town Jailkeeper then the RoleCop will receive a PM stating “No Result”.
  
• You may communicate privately via QuickTopic with your fellow Mafia up until the game thread is opened (this is called Night 0). Once the game begins, all outside communication must cease until the night cycle.
  
• Please do not communicate with each other outside of the QT.
  
• You win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not.

Town-Aligned players:

Townie

You are a normal townsperson, trying to make a living and survive this insanity.

• You have no abilities at Night other than getting a good night's rest.
  
• Although you do not have any special abilities, your voice and vote are powerful weapons in their own right. Use them to your best advantage!
  
• At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  
• You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.

Cop

You are a member of the local law enforcement, and can tell the good guys from the bad.

• Each NIGHT, you may send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to investigate before the Night deadline.
  
• The Moderator will inform you as to that person’s guilt or innocence.
  
• If you are blocked by a Town Jailkeeper you will receive a PM stating “No Result”.
  
• At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  
• In a Newbie game, you will always get a correct result (no sanity issues).
  
• You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.

Doctor

You are a physician, and can use your medical training to protect people from harm.

• Each NIGHT, you may send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to protect before the Night deadline.
  
• If someone attempts to kill that player during the Night, they will be spared.
  
• You will not be informed as to whether your protection was successful or not.
  
• You may not protect yourself.
  
• At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  
• In a Newbie game, your protection target will always live through the night.
  
• You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.

Jailkeeper:

You are a prison guard, and it’s your job to ensure the undesireables are kept in their place.

• Each NIGHT, you may send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to send to jail before the Night deadline.
  
• If the jailed player attempts to use a Night action (Investigate, Protect, or Kill), their action will not resolve.
  
• If the jailed player is the target of a Kill that action will not resolve. Any other actions (Investigate or Protect) will resolve.
  
• Neither you nor your target will be made aware of whether your own action was successful.
  
• You may not put yourself in jail.
  
• At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  
• You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Gingy replaces Fool_Hardy, who never replied to his role PM.

All other players have confirmed and Day 1 has begun.

5 to Lynch.

Click for Deadline

[Demyx]

Hello, all.

Standard operating procedure around these parts seems to ask questions. Well, I like questions. For science.

Question: Do you like being a vanilla townie? Why or why not?

[legend of mafia]

Very suspicios of the mafia

[VitaminR]

Hello, I'm your IC for this game. As such, you should feel free to ask me questions about the game, site culture, common tells, etc. I will answer all such questions truthfully, as if I were a neutral observer. Just make it sure it's clear that you are asking me a question as an IC.

At the start of the game, the common thing to do is to place a vote randomly to try to initiate discussion. Putting a little bit of pressure on someone makes them easier to read.

Vote: StefanB

Question: Do you like being a vanilla townie? Why or why not?

Yes, this is my favourite role. I don't really like to lie or manipulate, so being a vanilla townie allows me to just hunt for scum without feeling any pressure. Being scum is stressful, since you have to plot and scheme. Being a PR also comes with responsibility, though it's fun if you make the right choices.

[Gingy]

Vote: Tajun

Question: Do you like being a vanilla townie? Why or why not?

It's more of an attitude dependent decision. I love scumhunting, but I also like to lead.

[legend of mafia]

Vote VitaminR

[Tajun]

Vote legend of mafia

Demyx wrote:
Question: Do you like being a vanilla townie? Why or why not?

I don't know really, this is my first game ever (RL or forum). If I had to guess, I would say I'm likely to prefer to play scum, as I like to see what I can get away with.

Question: In voting, are you allowed to use abbreviations? For example, could I have said "Vote LOM" instead?

[legend of mafia]

No, don't say that

[Demyx]

Very suspicios of the mafia

People die if they are killed!

Hello, I'm your IC for this game. As such, you should feel free to ask me questions about the game, site culture, common tells, etc. I will answer all such questions truthfully, as if I were a neutral observer. Just make it sure it's clear that you are asking me a question as an IC.

Hello, friendly neighborhood IC!

Or perhaps

unfriendly.

*makes the "watching you" motion* :p

Yes, this is my favourite role. I don't really like to lie or manipulate, so being a vanilla townie allows me to just hunt for scum without feeling any pressure. Being scum is stressful, since you have to plot and scheme. Being a PR also comes with responsibility, though it's fun if you make the right choices.

Awesome sauce, I totally agree. I decided to try and hang out in these parts to learn a thing or six about scumhunting.

It's more of an attitude dependent decision. I love scumhunting, but I also like to lead.

It's kind of odd to me that you say it like scumhunting and leading are opposed. Or that you can't lead when you're a vanilla townie, or can't scumhunt if you're not.

[forehead7]

vote Legend of Mafia

Ima have a read of the rules and then come back with some questions

[legend of mafia]

Vote Sooky.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Question: In voting, are you allowed to use abbreviations? For example, could I have said "Vote LOM" instead?

See number 6 in the Rules post. If you (all of you) haven't read them yet, go do that now, because players not reading my rules set makes me sad.


Vel

[Gingy]

It's more of an attitude dependent decision. I love scumhunting, but I also like to lead.

It's kind of odd to me that you say it like scumhunting and leading are opposed. Or that you can't lead when you're a vanilla townie, or can't scumhunt if you're not.

My apologies.

They are intertwined to a degree. I can do both at the same time.

[VitaminR]

Hello, friendly neighborhood IC!

Or perhaps

unfriendly.

*makes the "watching you" motion* :p

Good, don't trust anyone, especially me.

Vote Sooky.

Who's Sooky?

[haoala]

Hello all! I have a question for all of you (besides Tajun, who has answered it): How's your experience with mafia, whether on- or off-site?

Also, what time zone are you in?

I'd suggest that all of you get an avatar so we can easily recognise the poster. Nice avatar btw, Demyx. I like "Want you gone".

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Vote Count 1.1

StefanB - 1 (VitaminR)
Tajun - 1 (Gingy)
VitaminR - 1 (legend of mafia)
legend of mafia - 2 (Tajun, forehead7)

Not Voting - 4 (AndroidDreams, Demyx, haoala, StefanB)

5 to Lynch.

Click for Deadline

.

[StefanB]

Hello all.

I am one of your SEs. We are not teachers like the IC, there is no reall skill involved to become SE, you just have to finish 2 games, which I did. (Not much more, but since that is a question later, I will answer it, then.

So the qustions:

Demix wrote:
Question: Do you like being a vanilla townie? Why or why not?

YES, I do. I prefer to play town. For me its more fun.
For the powerrolepart vs normal towniepart, I can't say anythink, because I haven't played as one long enough yet. (From my finished games only on a marathon for a short time)
VT gives you complete freedom without worry and everything else (powerrole wise) I see only as bonus.

Haolas:

How's your experience with mafia, whether on- or off-site?

Also, what time zone are you in?

1 complete game, 1 finished and 2 I had to replace out onside, some RLGames.
Timezone: GMT +1 or +2 (We are one hour away from Great Britain, but I think there are now +1 as well.

[StefanB]

So the game so far:

Very suspicios of the mafia

Legend of Mafia what do you mean with the post?

Demyz and Haola: What are your own answers to your questions?

Demyz why did you ask that specific question? If you want to wait until everyone answered them okay, but it's an interesting question to ask.

Vote: VitaminR

Post 16 makes me nervous, that don't trust me reminds me to much of a certain character in a book. I don't want to "I told you you should have trust me!", moment later. (Perhaps I read the wrong book in the moment)

Just to everyone: You may give reasons for your vote, even if they tend to be one the sily side at the beginning of day 1.

And if you have a problem with understanding somethink I say (I can be of the confusing side and English is my second language) tell me and I try to make it more understandable.

[legend of mafia]

Nahh I was just mucking about like. And there is no Sooky, he is a figmant of my imagination.

[StefanB]

Legend: And what has 21 to do with the game. Vote real players please not imaginary ones.

[legend of mafia]

That's what the mafia would say.

[StefanB]

What????
The mafia would ask you to play the game???
What is so different from my thinking and this point:

At the start of the game, the common thing to do is to place a vote randomly to try to initiate discussion. Putting a little bit of pressure on someone makes them easier to read.

from our IC, which is normal gametatic.

I wan't you to make seens.

And if you think I am mafia, why no vote?