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Newbie 1096: Game Over!

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:41 pm

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Newbie 1096


Two mafia members. Seven innocent townspeople. You don't know who they are, but you know you need to get rid of them before they get rid of you.


Game Status:
Over

Alive:

kr0b (SE), Mafia Goon, Survived


Dead:

DrDolittle (SE), Vanilla Townie, Lynched D1

Mrs_Duck
Quilford, Mafia Goon, Lynched D2

Hiraki (IC), Vanilla Townie, Killed N2

theplague42 (SE), Vanilla Townie, Lynched D3

daskery
Miss JJ, Doctor, Killed N3

pycyununn
Ctorj49
Draken, Vanilla Townie, Lynched D4

RaudhrGarm
Amrun (SE), Vanilla Townie, Endgamed

Ether (SE), Vanilla Townie, Endgamed


The Inexperience-Challenged player (IC) is here to help you learn how to play the game. Their play is governed by the wiki article Being a good IC.
The Semi-Experienced players (SEs) have a level of experience somewhere between a newbie and an IC.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:43 pm

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Rules:


1. This is a game. Play to win, but also to have fun and to allow the other players to have fun. Repeated or extreme violations of this rule are punishable by replacement or modkill.
1a. Claiming another player is your scumpartner, whether truthfully or not, will result in a modkill.
2. Votes must be in
bold
or between vote tags for them to count, like this:
Vote: saberwolf.
I don't require you to
unvote
before changing your vote, but some mods do and your fellow players will appreciate it, so it's a good habit to get into; if you choose to unvote, please bold it as well.
3. Vote counts will be as close to the top of the page as I can put them.
4. I may be God and the last word in any dispute I choose, but I am not infallible. If I make a mistake, please tell me.
5. While the game is in progress, do not discuss it except when and where I specifically allow you to.
5a. I do post QuickTopics after the game. Take that into account when deciding what to write in one.
5b. Encryption of any kind is forbidden, as is invisible or effectively-invisible text.
6. Similarly, do not quote private mod-player communications. You may paraphrase, though. If you're not sure if it crosses the line, run it by me.
7. Days will begin deadlined at three weeks. Deadlines will not be extended beyond three weeks except in case of a near-deadline replacement, and may be shortened at my discretion (if, for instance, discussion is plummeting). At deadline, half of a majority will be required to lynch.
There will be no reduced number of votes in LyLo!

8. V/LA: If it's declared in-thread, I'll see it. If it's in your sig, I'll see it. If you send me a PM, I'll see it, and I'll post it in-thread. If it's in the V/LA thread, I'll probably miss it.
If I don't know about it, it's your fault.
If it's too long, I'll ask for you to find your own replacement.
9. Prods will go out after 72 hours without a post (unless the player is on V/LA). The proddee will then have 48 hours to post in thread or they will be replaced. If you post before I get around to handing out the prod, you avoid the prod; similarly, if you return before I find a replacement, you can stay in the game. The third time you enter prod range, I won't bother prodding; instead, I'll just start looking for a replacement.
10. If at any time enough players are voting for No Lynch to make any other majority impossible, the day will end in No Lynch.
11. When a lynch (or a No Lynch) is reached, the game will enter twilight until I come to lock the thread.
All players alive immediately before the lynch may talk during twilight,
but don't expect it to be particularly long.
12. Nights will last approximately 72 hours, unless I need to find a replacement during the night. If I do, the replacement will have no fewer than 48 hours to get caught up.
12a. If you know in advance that you will be V/LA for most or all of the night phase, you are encouraged to submit night actions ahead of time. (To facilitate that, you may send in conditional night choices, PMs that look something like this: "If X isn't lynched, I'll investigate X. If X is lynched and flips town, I'll investigate Y; if X is lynched and flips scum, I'll investigate Z.")
12b. You may resubmit night actions as many times as you choose until day starts. I will count the last one submitted as your preferred target.
12c. If you don't send a night action PM, I will interpret it as you choosing to do nothing. You have been warned.
13. If you die, stop posting until after the game is over. You are allowed one "bah" post provided it contains no game-related content (something like "Go town!" is acceptable; something like "My tracking results were X and Y" is not).
14. If, for whatever reason, I decide to edit your post, it will be in
blue bold
. Don't use that style; impersonating the mod is grounds for a modkill.
15. Anything that would be illegal to actually do is also illegal to fake.
16. If I find that I've left something off, or that something needs clarification, I reserve the right to update these rules. I will tell you if/when that happens.
Discretion is the better part of valor.
If I helped lynch you, you deserved it.

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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:46 pm

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This game uses the F11 setup. F11 is Semi-Open, meaning there are a small set of possible setups from which to choose.

The actual setup has been chosen at random from one of these four possibilities:
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Vanilla Townies
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 5 Vanilla Townies
2 Mafia Goons, 1 Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies
2 Mafia Goons, 1 Doctor, 6 Vanilla Townies

This is stated in the role PMs listed below, but to reiterate:
If either of the first two setups is in play and the Goon is lynched first, the Roleblocker will be able to block and kill on the same night.


These are the possible role PMs:
(Anything between parentheses may or may not be in the role PM.)
Vanilla Townie PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1096,
Player
. You are a
Vanilla Townie
. During the night phase, you have no special abilities; during the day, you have the powers of your voice and your vote to try to find and lynch the mafia.

As a member of the town, you win if both mafiosi are dead.
Cop PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1096,
Player
. You are the
Cop
. During the night phase, you may PM me the name of a player
other than yourself
whose alignment you wish to know, and unless you were roleblocked - in which case I will inform you to that effect - I will truthfully respond with either "X is town" or "X is mafia"; during the day, you have the powers of your voice and your vote to try to find and lynch the mafia.

As a member of the town, you win if both mafiosi are dead.
Doctor PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1096,
Player
. You are the
Doctor
. During the night phase, you may PM me the name of a player
other than yourself
whom you wish to protect, and unless you are roleblocked - in which case you will not be informed - any kills that target that player that night will be prevented; during the day, you have the powers of your voice and your vote to try to find and lynch the mafia.

As a member of the town, you win if both mafiosi are dead.
Mafia Goon PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1096,
Player
. You are (the/a)
Mafia Goon
. During the night phase, you and your scumpartner
Player 2
, (the Mafia Roleblocker/another Mafia Goon), may discuss in {link}this QuickTopic{/link} who to kill at night(, and as long as your partner is alive, who they will roleblock); during the day, you have the powers of your voice and your vote to pretend to try to find and lynch the mafia, while actually trying to lynch members of the town.

As a member of the mafia, you win if the number of living mafiosi equals or exceeds the number of other living players at any time.
Mafia Roleblocker PM wrote:Welcome to Newbie 1096,
Player
. You are the
Mafia Roleblocker
. During the night phase, you and your scumpartner
Player 2
, the Mafia Goon, may discuss in {link}this QuickTopic{/link} who to kill at night, and as long as you are alive, who to roleblock - note that if your partner dies first, you may roleblock and kill on the same night; during the day, you have the powers of your voice and your vote to pretend to try to find and lynch the mafia, while actually trying to lynch members of the town.

As a member of the mafia, you win if the number of living mafiosi equals or exceeds the number of other living players at any time.
Discretion is the better part of valor.
If I helped lynch you, you deserved it.

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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:49 pm

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Role PMs
are being
have been sent out; please confirm in the manner specified in your role PM. The game will begin once 8 of 9 players have confirmed.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:53 am

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All confirmations are in. Let's get this show on the road!


Day 1 begins!
With 9 alive, it will take 5 to lynch and 3 to lynch at deadline.

Deadline:
Tuesday, May 10, ~9:00 PM CDT (GMT-6+1)
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:55 am

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Pycyununn. Are you excited to be scum?
As I move my vote
Towards your wagon, town is taking note
It fills my head up and gets louder and
LOUDER
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:09 am

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way to assume 'cuase i confirmed last.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:09 am

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What are you talking about?
As I move my vote
Towards your wagon, town is taking note
It fills my head up and gets louder and
LOUDER
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:11 am

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what were you talking about?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:11 am

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You haven't answered my question, anyway. I specifically asked if you were
excited
to be scum.

I guess you can answer both.
As I move my vote
Towards your wagon, town is taking note
It fills my head up and gets louder and
LOUDER
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:13 am

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okay looking for a strait forward obviously sarcastic answer:
Yes, ecstatic.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:15 am

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See, and this time you haven't explained why you started out so fatalistic. This is silly.

As a heads up, I've got a class in like three minutes.
As I move my vote
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It fills my head up and gets louder and
LOUDER
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:17 am

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see ya, XOXO
XD
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:19 am

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Well fine, then. I'll reach my conclusions on my own.

Which is kind of what I'd be doing anyway, but still.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:28 am

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geez none else is talking
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:48 am

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VOTE: pycyununn
Because Ether is Wigglytuff.
Spoiler:
Snape kills Dumbledore.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:15 pm

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VOTE: Ether
Because Ether is Wigglytuff.
Ôû▓ It's a giraffe. Ôû▓
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:22 pm

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The tension!
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Snape kills Dumbledore.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:24 pm

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VOTE: Ether
because who starts out there conversation with like she did (to lazy to quote)[*]
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:25 pm

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Wow only 4 out of 9 people spoke so far
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:25 pm

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Perhaps it's one of those min-

ARE YOU EXCITED TO BE SCUM?
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:28 pm

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Indeed I am *smirk*
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:29 pm

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Hello everyone, I'm your helpful IC, Hiraki.

Let's start this game with a first question. Usually ICs will start out with 1-3, but I like this one for the moment. It'd really help if everyone answered this question.

1) What's your experience with mafia(Number of Games)? If you are a real true newbie, then welcome aboard! :D

Being your IC, I must also give you some tips on how to do well in the world of mafia.
[/sub]
1.
Don't Lurk.
Lurking is the inactivity of a person to do anything. It can be classified as Active, or just Lurking. Active Lurking is primarily found as scummy. This is when a person submits posts that are random, and really have nothing to do with the game. Lurking is when a player doesn't post at all, and usually posts to avoid prods. Prods are checks given by the mod, in this case Nobody_Special, in order to make sure that a certain player is playing the game, and not being inactive. You don't want to be prodded. In the case that you're prodded and the mod gets no response, you'll be replaced. You don't want to be replaced either.

Basically, here's the tl;dr version. If you want to do good in mafia, you should submit posts that have things to do with the game, and not things that are random. To deduce this logically, if you're playing Monopoly, you wouldn't randomly say that the other person has a nice face in order to make a trade.

2.
Don't self vote.
Unless your role specifically shows some good in self-voting (Hunter, Vengeful Townie), you should
never
self-vote. In this game, there should be no reason that anyone should self-vote, except for reasons of irony and/or humor. A little note here, some people find self-voting to be applicable to a policy lynch. A policy lynch is when a person has a policy to lynch one person based off of what he or she has done. Per se, self-votting. If you want to be safe, just don't do it. It's like drugs!

3.
Read the rules
This is more for the people, like me, who like to submits posts with images. Some mods do not tolerate this and it will lead to a modkill. A modkill is when a person is killed by the mod personally and their role is changed, well most of the time, to a neutral survivor. Doing this will get you on the mod's bad side, and probably on other people's bad side for ignoring the rules. To avoid this...well...um...read the rules.

4.
Do things logically
If you are town, you should not claim Cop, when you are not Cop. If you're scum, then perhaps you should when the time is right. However, if something doesn't fit logically, it's probably not right. For example, if a FakeCop(PersonC) gets a guilty on Person A, but Person A was already cleared by the dead doctor(Person B), then it's highly logically to say that Person C is most probably scum. There is a chance that Person A is scum, but voting Person A in this situation is highly illogical. If you do vote Person A, there is a fair chance that you're scum, or that you'll be lynched tomorrow if Person C is town or scum. In any case, do things logically. If it doesn't make sense in the real world, it doesn't make sense on the internet.

5.
Do not claim your role until it is essentially needed
If I press "Preview" on the screen right now, and I see an SE telling you all to massclaim, I will be highly frustrated. I've been trying to get examples of how to phrase this rule all day, but most of them have come up to dirty sexual jokes(I'll avoid those in Newbie Games, kkthx), and horrible examples. I'm just going to lay these roles straight on you. If you're scum, you can't claim scum or you'll be lynched. If you're town, you must claim your role, even if you'll still die after it. Dying is not the end of a game. You can still win a game of mafia if you die. You win with your faction, not with yourself. Also, you should only claim when you're at L-1. L-1 is the term that a person only requires one vote to lynch. It is a dangerous place, and even more so in newbie games. This goes to both town and scum, an easy way to get town-cred is to unvote, and allow the person to claim at L-2. So, if a person is at L-1 at least once, they should claim. If a person is at L-1, and I hop in and unvote, I'm going to still require you to claim. Everyone else should too. The reason of putting someone at L-2 to claim, rather than L-1, is the possibility of someone hammering. This could be scum or town. Town will almost always miscount, and scum will almost always say that they miscounted.

tl;dr: Claim when you're at L-1, hope that someone unvotes to L-2, or drops the wagon altogether.

6.
Have fun
In the end, mafia is a game. Games are meant for entertainment. Some people will take the game too hard. To be quite honest, there are some games that I have played and have not had fun in them. However, it's the games that always keep you guessing until the end that are the great ones. If you're not enjoying mafia after 10+ games, then perhaps it's not for you. To be quite serious now, I'd rather play with a person that I get along with that always finds town, rather than scum, rather than the guy that always an asshole and finds scum rather than town.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask me in the thread. If it's role related questions,
ask the mod
. I once had a role that I had to ask the mod about its abilities multiple times. The mod is there to watch the game, and help if needed. Don't be afraid to ask.

Now to start the game, I am going to start by going into the stage of RVS(Random Voting Session/Stage). This is where we all vote for someone randomly. Once you think you've found a reaction that doesn't look like town, or just doesn't feel right for you, go on ahead and accuse the person for what he may have, or may not have done. By doing that, we can start a pressure wagon, and see where that leads us. A pressure wagon, to note, is a wagon that may not be fully for a lynch, but is made to get reactions from a specific person. Reactions are
very
good helpers to find scum.

So, to start, I will VOTE: Mrs_Duck.She's at the top of the playerlist, and therefore must be scum!!!111!1!1

Also, do not be afraid to go to the Wiki and look up some ways that people scumhunt, or read some other completed games. They can be very helpful for some newbies, and reading games is sometimes very enjoyable as well![/quote]
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:37 pm

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If you really wany to know what my mafia experiance (since you asked) is quite a large chunk playing IRL and playing on sites in A chat room plus I just started playing forums but I got a pretty steady grasp on it.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:59 pm

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Hey everyone. I'm one of the five (WTF five SEs?!?!?) SEs. The (very few) newbies can ask us questions if Hiraki gets pushed under a moped. The only advice I have is to post, be polite, and post. That being said,

Vote: Hiraki


You'll be scum eventually.
Part of the problem.

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