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Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:27 am

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So it wasn't really random, now.. was it? ;)

Oh wait, from what I remember, weren't you the scum? :P

PARTIALLY RANDOM NOT-TO-BE-TAKEN SERIOUSLY vote: bigAL


Crap.. I was giving DG advice on that one and got it all wrong..
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Post Post #18 (isolation #1) » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:43 pm

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starkmoon wrote:I think I am starting to feel unloved here lol..

Or... maybe not.
Awww..


unvote, vote sratkmoon


Better? ;)
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Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:01 pm

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starkmoon wrote:erm.. yeah... may i ask where you learned to type? i could do with some lessons myself ;-)
I wlil Neevr tlle uyo whree ileantd to tpye1
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Post Post #24 (isolation #3) » Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:07 pm

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Fine, it was at the jeioprapdf asjfugsd.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #4) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:15 am

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CreedP wrote:All right - so if a 'no lynch' vote is not in our best interests, then what is? We randomly take someone out and hang them and hope for the best? :)

CREED
Basically. We think and discuss until we have a vague idea of who *might* be scum. We don't just go randomly.

Though in these newb games, town is lynched d1 about 90% of the time.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #5) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:10 am

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CreedP wrote:
Ameliaslay wrote:Yep, and and its usually bright-eyed, idealistic newbs who express their views far to freely ( as I found in my first game :() But in general lots of discussion helps...
...and here, I had to go and open my yap. :lol:

I know what I am, but I know trying to convince anyone I'm innocent is useless. So ... what then, pick the person who's tagline / avatar seems the most suspicious? :j

CREED
We pick those who jump on pointless bandwagons and show various other scum tells. For example, if I were to cast a third vote on you right now for no reason, I may end up lynched.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #6) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:27 am

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unvote, vote stark


Anxious to start a bandwagon, aren't we?
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Post Post #38 (isolation #7) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:38 pm

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Yes, sorry.
unvote, vote BigAl


It's still a semi-joke vote.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #8) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:06 pm

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bigAl wrote:Oooooh. Controversy.
Huh?
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Post Post #42 (isolation #9) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:13 pm

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Just cause you're my best gues doesn't mean you're the right one. ;)

It's only one vote. I'll unvote if any kind of bandwagon starts. DW.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #10) » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:42 am

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Talitha wrote:
unvote: Creed, vote: bertrand


He wasnt really paying attention and now he's kinda scrambling to cover for it.
Typos are scummy now?
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Post Post #50 (isolation #11) » Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:55 pm

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bigAl wrote:
Everything
is scummy.
By your own logic, so was that statement. Vote stays. ;)
Talitha wrote:Haha... A typo in which you transposed one player's name for another..... not really a typo!
It's a mistake. I obviously meant to say BigAl. I still don't see how that's scummy... oh well.
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Post Post #53 (isolation #12) » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:46 am

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Minor FoS Ameliaslay for vote without much explanation.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #13) » Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:01 pm

Post by bertrand »

Hmm, well, explain your vote. Please.
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Post Post #69 (isolation #14) » Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:40 am

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Yeah, putting him one vote away for a lynch. For his avatar? Lame.

unvote, vote CreedP


I prefer this one.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #15) » Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:55 pm

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Arrgh!

Cool.
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Post Post #79 (isolation #16) » Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:23 pm

Post by bertrand »

Creed's is still there for your avatar. Not sure of the other.
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Post Post #82 (isolation #17) » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:47 am

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Casting a third vote is fine. But you need a reason...
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Post Post #84 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:46 am

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I can't, I already put the socond ;)
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Post Post #86 (isolation #19) » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:59 am

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..elaborate?

For clarity, that was kind of a joke. I don't really want Creed lynched now.. I just don't like when people vote for absolutely no reason. Voting is great, just outside of early random votes and people who have 0-1 votes [which are fun], it should be done for a reason.

That's my view on it anyway.
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Post Post #87 (isolation #20) » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:59 am

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In other words, don't put someone 1 vote from a lynch unless you actually want that person lynched.
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Post Post #94 (isolation #21) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:02 am

Post by bertrand »

Talitha wrote:Tally is sticking with her bertrand vote.

Why is Tally speaking in the 3rd person?

She doesn't know.
And why is that?
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Post Post #96 (isolation #22) » Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:45 am

Post by bertrand »

I like to know what's going on so I can judge people's actions. And I'm a moron, so sometimes I miss the obvious.

Is that a problem? :P
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Post Post #98 (isolation #23) » Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:36 am

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Ameliaslay wrote:Do you want to make it one? :P
Am I?
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Post Post #116 (isolation #24) » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:20 pm

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I'm happy with either Creed... not 100% sure though. I think that vote and the fact that he keeps offering himself for a lynch is enough.
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Post Post #119 (isolation #25) » Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:23 am

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Talitha wrote:I have not played with Creed before, but it seems to me that it would be unusual for a mafia member to offer themselves up for lynching... and let down their partner.
They do that as WIFOM. When people do that I usually completely ignore it.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #26) » Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:01 pm

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Ameliaslay wrote:You know, I really think I am too.
So am I, but Tally is becoming a more interesting choice. She seems convinced I'm scum for some reason.

I still think Creed is using WIFOM.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #27) » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:18 pm

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I'm pretty sure I've seen stark play somewhere, even here I thought. I know I've seen that somewhere, possibly on MDV or Salvation.
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Post Post #133 (isolation #28) » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:14 pm

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Yo Thok.. I know you from just about every game I've been in! Welcome.
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Post Post #140 (isolation #29) » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:43 am

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WHAT?! Don't lynch me!

I'm the cop.

I know it's not much proof, but:
bertrand wrote:
O
h wait, from what I remember, weren't you the scum? :P

P
ARTIALLY RANDOM NOT-TO-BE-TAKEN SERIOUSLY vote: bigAL

C
rap.. I was giving DG advice on that one and got it all wrong..
I'd have left a better hint, but I wasn't expecting to by LYNCHED!

unvote, vote CreedP, FoVMS: CreedP, FoVMS: Thok
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Post Post #144 (isolation #30) » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:42 pm

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CreedP wrote:...right, cuz I'd know to check anagrams for that sort of thing... :roll:

CREED
I wasn't expecting anyone to notice it, it was something I planted to show if ever I needed to claim.

Anyway.... what do we do now? I'd like to know if we have a doc but it would be REALLY DUMB for him to claim 'cause he'd obviously die. But if there's a doc, for the love of whatever, PROTECT ME!

Creed, you don't believe me? Why didn't you unvote?
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Post Post #146 (isolation #31) » Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:11 pm

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Not to BigAL: When you pick up these clues, don't tell anyone about them and keep them to yourself, to not give the mafia a free cop or something.
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Post Post #151 (isolation #32) » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:49 am

Post by bertrand »

That FoS was for not unvoting in the post you made RIGHT AFTER I claimed. ;)
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Post Post #153 (isolation #33) » Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:37 pm

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See, there you go again, forgetting to unvote when someone points out your logic isn't good.. ;)

Now let's get on with the game!
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Post Post #157 (isolation #34) » Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:11 pm

Post by bertrand »

feh.

unvote, vote CreedP


That was pointless. (I was already voting him)

Creed, who do you think I should investigate?
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Post Post #168 (isolation #35) » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:32 am

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Well, I investigated Thok and guess what! He's TOWN.

Feh.

I was 100% sure I was dead meat though.
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Post Post #170 (isolation #36) » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:26 pm

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Where have you been?! You really need to rad over the game. I claimed yesterday.
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Post Post #175 (isolation #37) » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:17 am

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OK yeah, have you been reading the games on MTGSalvation?
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Post Post #180 (isolation #38) » Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:04 pm

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Since Creed turned up town, I decided to investigate one of those who was voting for him, preferably one of the last finish-him-off votes. Amelia's post didn't look scummy, but I thought Thok's vote was awfully quick and thought that was scummy. So I investigated him.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #39) » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:08 am

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I'm not sure. You come to mind, because of some of your early game comments.
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Post Post #184 (isolation #40) » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:48 am

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We're not voting because it's lynch or lose.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #41) » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:23 pm

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bigAl wrote:I'm trying to find something to talk about but nothing's happened. I guess I'll
unvote TMW
vote Amelia

mostly cause it's the most suspicous person (though very, very, very slightly) with one vote currently, to maybe get something going.
Second vote, without any logic stated whatsoever.
bigAl wrote:
Everything
is scummy.
I'm not sure why, just something about that comment bugs me..
bigAl wrote:Nope, I never quoted it. Not harping on it either as far as I can tell.

unvote: Ameliaslay
vote: starkmoon
lynch all liars (just kidding, but still deserving of a vote)
Joke vote past the point of random votes. I find this shows that he doesn't really care much who he's voting.

I guess I don't have much of a case. I've been re-reading and I have no idea what to do...



Additional note:
Thok wrote:Indeed.
Vote bertrand
-mainly because there seems to be a connection between him and starkmoon.
Is also something that made me want to check Thok.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #42) » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:14 am

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If mafia kill someone else, they get a near 100% chance of kill and if they kill someone else it's only 50%.
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Post Post #194 (isolation #43) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:54 am

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Well, that explanation doesn't really change my mind...
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Post Post #204 (isolation #44) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:46 pm

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Um.. whoa.

Not sure what to make of that.

I object to you voting, Talitha, but I don't think it matters now, does it? :P
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Post Post #206 (isolation #45) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:14 pm

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Talitha wrote:So, yeah.. bertrand is my best pick. His early posts just seem like he
knows
certain people are not scum. Any objectors to me voting?
What gives you that idea?
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Post Post #211 (isolation #46) » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:27 am

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Talitha wrote:What gave me that idea was your posts... I think you refered to baseless bandwagons or something like that, in a way that made me think you knew something. I am too tired to go digging up the quotes right now.
I'd like to see this quote, I didn't notice anything like that. I will vote if I tihnk it's voteworthy.
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Post Post #213 (isolation #47) » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:29 pm

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Ameliaslay wrote:
starkmoon wrote:Erm, can I ask why you have voted for me Amelia?
To see how long it would take you to repond.
Elaborate? Why do you want to know how long it takes him to respond? I'm lost here... do you have a Cunning Plan?
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Post Post #218 (isolation #48) » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:52 pm

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I'm not saying we can't lynch Stark, but "lurking" alone isn't a reason.

I'm slightly more inclined to think Amelia is scum, because she was on the Creed wagon.
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Post Post #221 (isolation #49) » Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:17 pm

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Ameliaslay wrote:I was not "on Creed's wagon" I merely placed the hammer, I was "on" your wagon.
You placed the hammer. I call that being on the wagon. Or at least being one of those who lynched an innocent townie.
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Post Post #223 (isolation #50) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:27 am

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Yeah I know, so did I, but there must have been at least one scum on that wagon. Besides, now you're trying to redirect attention.

FoMS: Ameliaslay
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Post Post #227 (isolation #51) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:23 pm

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Well that means you're scum if I'm not speedlynched, so I'll watch out in this thread and see who puts on the second vote..
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Post Post #229 (isolation #52) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:24 pm

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What do you mean by that?
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Post Post #231 (isolation #53) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:54 pm

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Are you?
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Post Post #233 (isolation #54) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:17 pm

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Neither can I, actually. The reason I was wondering is that I don't want you to vote me as soon as I left.
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Post Post #238 (isolation #55) » Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:15 am

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What? Damn you.. so who was it?
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Post Post #241 (isolation #56) » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:01 pm

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Mafia wins.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #57) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:44 am

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Thok wrote:Bertrand, why did you respond to my question about starkmoon's experience? If she's town, then she can defend herself, and if she's scum, well you saw what happened. That's the reason I voted you; I thought you were trying to defend her.
You said something about it being her first game and I simply pointed out I thought that was incorrect as I've seen the name. I wasn't trying to defend her, I hadn't realised you were accusing her. Sorry..

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