I only have 1 mafia game under my belt, which I did horrible in. I think I've learned from my mistakes, though, so I think I'll be able to redeem myself in this game.
Also,
Stop stealing my irl name! [/b]
Could you rephrase your suspicion of Robo for me? I'm looking at his post and yours, and I can't tell what you meant.Me=Weird wrote:That's interesting, because to me that says scum trying to bring any suspicion off them by putting it on someone else with a feasible explanation for doing so, so I think that I'llUnvoteandFoS: Robocopter87
@guide: I now find robo suspicious.
Responses in grape.AClockworkMelon wrote:
I don't think there's "Weird hate" at all. He has two votes against him.
Whether it exists or not is besides the point. I asked what you thought of the people going after them, and their arguments. Not whether or not it was a big deal
I don't find anything in particular suspicious about other members of the group,yet. I was tempted take a closer look atyoufor casting suspicion on me after I gave what I felt to be an adequate answer; but on a moment's reflection I don't think that your actions warrant undue suspicion from me as of yet.
Semi OMGUS? I'm so tempted to vote for you right now.
AClockworkMelon wrote: I'm not trying to avoid the question. I already said that I didn't find ANYTHING that ANY of you have done suspicious. That would, presumably, include your "attacks" on Me=Weird.
Looking at these posts again, I can see what you were trying to say. You meant that although no one has given any scum tells, you feel as if no one has given any town vibes either, making everyone equally suspicious. Sorry about that, I misinterpreted.AClockworkMelon wrote: ~Lights a wooden tobacco pipe.~
I find you all suspicious, but none of you more so than the others.
Vote: No Lynch
So, you're using a hypothetical example of what you would do as scum to make yourself seem like a townie? You know, if you were scum, you wouldn't tell us what you would do, meaning that this logic is invalid.AClockworkMelon wrote:I don't think I've said anything suspicious. But you so quickly changed your vote away from the "Weird hate" and onto me. If Me=Weird is innocent and I am not, you would think I would have encouraged suspicion of him. But if we're both guilty then it wouldn't matter for which of us you voted. Very curious indeed.
As you can see, I even said how I was going to play from the get-go.theguide730 wrote: 3) In my last game, I was way too cautious, not really understanding the way the early game works. I mistook pressure bandwagons as scum quicklynches, and directed my suspicion against some of the most proactive townies. Now that I've learned from that, you can expect me to be a lot more aggressive. In the early game, I'll be fishing for possible scumtells, and once I decide someone's suspicious, you can expect me to pressure until I'm reasonably certain that you're in the clear.
Responses in olive.boberz wrote:
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A few things:
No lynch vote was horrible.
Too much OMGUSing
the above are too true
Too much questioning (although granted it is better than RVS) I didnt mind the original question.
There's no such thing as too much questioning!
Where did I OMGUS? I'm guessing that you're talking about my attack on Melon. In that case, I started to attack him, and then he started to do the equivalent of FoS for my attacking him. From the way I read it, he was the one who OMGUS'd. Also, I may very well have messed up, but could you be a bit nicer about it? I'm just trying to learn, and will take whatever criticism you have to offer.Robocopter87 wrote:The OMGUSing was about you.
ElectricBadger wrote:Not liking Guide's countervote; calling a reasoned vote scummy based on gut is anti-town, particularly before neto had been forced to respond and combined with the transparent attempt to redirect attention by asking about other suspicions.. Potentially scum helping to hide a buddy.
I actually already addressed these two points, as is seen here:Netopalis wrote:5) I also don't like Guide's vote on Me=Weird. There is an excellent reason to do it, but he needs to post his reasoning here. This isn't really a scumtell, it's a matter of good play - never just post a vote, always include reasoning with that vote.
As you can see, I made the vote to see how he would react, to see if I had anything other than my gut to go on. Also, I felt that he was taking advantage of the opportunity that the questioning of Neto represented.TheGuide730 wrote:Well, it wasn't entirely random. I deliberately neglected to include an explanation to see how you would react.
Also, my gut doesn't like the way you voted for Neko. It was a safe vote, considering that two people echoed your sentiments (well, just Die really. I only wanted him to answer his own ?'s. Actually, not even Die, though his tone made me feel as if he was tinking along those lines), and you were able to use an established suspicion as your reason.
Netopolis wrote:11) Guide's Post #63 changes my analysis somewhat. He says that he'd be willing to lynch Melon right now. I really don't like that. Several of our players haven't posted, and generally we shouldn't lynch until a consensus has been reached and all players have weighed in.
I don’t think I said that he would be the definite vote for the day, just that I would be comfortable with lynching him atm. Right after that sentence Badger quoted, I asked other people what they though about other subjects. I even said that we were wasting too much time on the Melon discussion two posts down.ElectricBadger wrote:You're ready to lynch just a few hours into the game, without even hearing from some of the other players? Scummy. Even if I KNEW clock was scum, I would want to hear from others so we could start on our search for our next mafioso.
Me and Die had already expressed our desire to see Neto elaborate; Die hinted that he thought it might be suspicious, I simply expressed a desire to hear what he thought. I thought it was strange that Weird actually voted for him, under the same suspicions that Die had brought forth, especially because most of the people posting at that point wanted Neto to answer his questions. So, the opportunity was a chance to safely vote for someone, without adding any new knowledge of the game.Badger wrote:Your post wasn't addressing it, actually, it was what I was asking about. How was he "taking advantage" and of what "opportunity"? Why did you feel the need, with Neto under pressure, to attack Weird for asking him questions?
I've gotta admit, this seems really suspicious. If I was in your shoes, I'd be susp. about me too. However, I'm going to stay true to the assertion that I recognized my attacks on Melon as bad play. If I keep on hammering him for the integrity of my old position, I'm going to lose the valuable chance to hunt other scum.Badger wrote:Backpedaling. My argument still stands; you pushed a quick lynch, and now that you've been called out for it you're dropping your suspicions and vote. If you were so sure he's scum that you're ready to lynch, why the sudden about face?