Newbie 907 - The Road Back to Magic World, Game Over

[McGriddle]

Hey guys, I am here and I am the replacement IC. I feel really bad for doing this but I will be

V/LA until tomorrow night

:/ Sorry for the inconvenience and for the record I am starting my day with suspicions on pwnman.

[McGriddle]

I thought at the time I had asked for a claim. Apparently not.

I swear to God I am a VT.(If I'm lying I go to hell)

Mafia is IMO-

SinSpawn- Rushed the day, couple of scummy posts, pushed for Kyle's lynch, and overall nervous.

Not sure about the second member

Thanks for the welcome,

Wow, way to AtE pwnman, how can you comment on how SinSpawn rushed the day when you yourself rushed the day? Hypocritical. You are pushing a pretty easy lynch for no good reason. Based off of meta you act the same way as when you were scum in that game.

Since Kishime unvoted I am going to vote to put pwnman back at L-1. He made too detrimental of mistakes to not have this much pressure.

Vote:pwnman

[McGriddle]

I swear to God I am VT. SinSpawn is likely scum and McG seemed to want to quicklynch me, but thankfully Kishime unvoted.

vote SinSpawn

for his scummy actions yesterday (Wanting to rush, pushing at Kyle, scummy posts, nervous)

You're just OMGUS accusing me. Again you AtE, and I even told you that the only reason I am voting for you is because you are not at L-1. I obviously don't want a quicklynch. I can't tell if you are just VI or scum, that's why I didn't hammer.

[McGriddle]

I swear to God I am VT.

SinSpawn is likely scum and McG seemed to want to quicklynch me, but thankfully Kishime unvoted.

[McGriddle]

That isn't AtE. It's just a way to prove I'm telling the truth

How is that a way of telling us the truth without means of us having to just trust you. It's not, so it is AtE.

[McGriddle]

It is not AtE. AtE is trying to make people feel sorry for me. I don't see that anywhere

T.T.... facepalm

AtE doesn't mean we only feel sorry for you.. It means that you are trying to get us to unvote you just because you are swearing to God, which personally I find offensive.

[McGriddle]

You find it offensive?

Anyways....back to the SinSpawn and me arguements

Yes, I am a big christian, and I find it offensive.

[McGriddle]

Eh. Anyone object to me hammering? Given his logic so far he's not going to help us even if he's town and no mafia in their right mind is gonna kill him.

Nope

[McGriddle]

You find it offensive?

Anyways....back to the SinSpawn and me arguements

Yes, I am a big christian, and I find it offensive.

Well so am I. It's just promising to God

No it's putting God at stake.

[McGriddle]

No it's promising to God.

Now can we stay on topic?

Yes we can stay on topic. Hammer time for you unless someone objects.

[McGriddle]

lol i know right.

[McGriddle]

I'm heading out for a friends party right now, I will be on tomorrow sometime, I beg you guys not to hammer until I get back, I want to see what pwnman has to say about Sin before anything happens. And Lord, that sounds perfectly fine.

Sounds reasonable. But the hammer will occur today, so I suggest, pwnman, you should speak on now on what sinspawn thinks. And for the record, I don't see a SinSpawn/pwnman pair if pwnman flips scum

[McGriddle]

Player analysis, ordered from least scummy to most scummy:

Regfan - Throughout the game, Regfan has been scumhunting and has presented reasonable arguments backing his votes. He hasn't contradicted himself much either. Probably town.

McGriddle (IC) - I felt Papa Zito was town mostly due to the argument he had with me and how he jumped off of the AGar wagon. McGriddle hasn't done anything since he repaced in to change this read. Probably town.

easjo682 - Easjo has contradicted herself a few times and tends to come in and post after other people do and continue their attacks. She doesn't post a lot of content. Neutral-scum.

SinSpawn9000 - At the beginning of the game, I felt Sin was just an overzealous townie. However, his play is becoming more and more erratic and both at the end of Day 1 and now in Day 2 he is pushing for quicklynches and trying to end the day early which seems scummy. Read: neutral-scum.

Kishime - Kishime has listed three or four people now that he would be happy to lynch. He pushed for AGar's lynch while claiming that he thought easjo and Sin were the scum team. He tried to get people to say who they would go after today if AGar had been lynched on Day 1. He is very loose with his vote as well. The combination of these things has me leaning towards scum on him.

pwnman (SE) - I think I have discussed why I find pwnman scummy in my last few posts. But just to recap: he quickhammered kyle without a claim, he

lied

about asking for a claim; and he acted hypocritical in berating SinSpawn for being opportunistic, then doing just that himself. Very scummy.

So, given all that, I feel that pwnman is our best lynch for today.

I approve of this list.

It's probably good that there is no AGar now since I like AGar and probably would have been (disgracefully) biased towards feeling for him, but pwnmans outrageous actions have pegged him to number 1 on just about everyones LoS. The fact that he acted like this in a previous game makes me wonder though. In meta he was my scum buddy and when he was at L-1 he blurted out a false scum-buddy and scum ended up winning. This time he just keeps telling us he swears to God he is town. It worries me via meta but he is using obv-scum actions, and even if does flip town his uselessness will not hurt the town and I will get more info, as well as everyone else.

[McGriddle]

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[McGriddle]

Ok, you have a point there, though the only reason that blurting out worked was because RayFrost was apparently temporarily blind and missed the doc flip.

True, but he still did it to throw off the town, so it's possible he could be town here, but still not that likely.

[McGriddle]

Well I guess there is nothing to stop me from being lynch. Town-mates yall suck this game.

Peace out

Unvote

I dont think you are scum fully.

[McGriddle]

Well I guess there is nothing to stop me from being lynch. Town-mates yall suck this game.

Peace out

Unvote

I dont think you are scum fully.

Who do you propose we lynch today, then? Kishime? SinSpawn? easjo?

I don't know yet, but I am going to slow down a little bit, it's too much of a gamble to vote him off so quick. He kinda seems like VI. He also gave up too easy, but he is still my number 1 suspect.

[McGriddle]

I have a bad feeling that pwnman is going to end up just like kyle. Bad logic, but still town.

This is how I know you are town.

Also we until the 6th so lets not lynch pwnman just yet. If it comes down to the wire (like a week before) and we can't find anything else, I say we lynch pwnman then.

[McGriddle]

What happened mcG, just a few posts ago you were set on nailing him today and now you are backing down?

The pressure that was applied to him made him crack, and that to me (based off of meta) was enough to get me to unvote, like I said, lets vote him if nobody ends up a better candidate. let's give him 8 RL days.

[McGriddle]

I find that bs, my vote will still go up at 1040.

do it.

Vote: Pwnman

there is no stopping the inevitable.

[McGriddle]

I find that bs, my vote will still go up at 1040.

do it.

Vote: Pwnman

there is no stopping the inevitable.

It's not 1040 yet.

Idk where you live lol

[McGriddle]

Also we until the 6th so lets not lynch pwnman just yet. If it comes down to the wire (like a week before) and we can't find anything else, I say we lynch pwnman then.

do it.

Vote: Pwnman

What happened? You just changed your entire view for no reason.

He's going to get killed. Theres no getting around it. I don't know, I probably shouldn't be on here while I am so tired -.-*

[McGriddle]

Also we until the 6th so lets not lynch pwnman just yet. If it comes down to the wire (like a week before) and we can't find anything else, I say we lynch pwnman then.

do it.

Vote: Pwnman

What happened? You just changed your entire view for no reason.

He's going to get killed. Theres no getting around it. I don't know, I probably shouldn't be on here while I am so tired -.-*

meaning even if we do give him the 8 days to recover himself if he really is town, the town is still going to vote him, so why draw it out lol.

[McGriddle]

More time gives him a chance to show us what he is talking about in relation to Sin's scummy posts as well us gives us more time to scum hunt for the other mafia if pwn is mafia. I don't think we have to wait 8 days but give him 1-2 days to see what he says and what else we come across.

Good point. I am tired, I am probably going to bed soon so

Unvote

so he doesn't get hammered at 10:40 or whatever, I will pick back up tomorrow when I am less tired T.T

[McGriddle]

geeze McGriddle you keep changing your view point every 5 minutes, seems you go with whatever is popular at the time, whats up with that?

FOS: McGriddle

No I am just wishy-washy on a pwnman lynch.

[McGriddle]

OH, excuse me SinSpawn for having a life.

FYI I was at hockey practice for 2 hours. But of course I don'tsee anything stopping my lynch at this point

pwnman,

Instead of continually making these statements, bring up those examples, convince us you aren't scum. Don't be apathetic.

@Everyone else,

I get the feeling we aren't going to get the information we wanted from pwnman here.

I agree, we won't get any more information out of postponing a pwnman lynch. I just didn't want him hammered at night where nobody can put their input in before, but now I suppose he has had enough time so.

Vote: Pwnman

you disappoint me...

[McGriddle]

mine

yours

If you're going to quote the mod, at least quote her correctly ~ Hayl

[McGriddle]

lol @ mod

[McGriddle]

BTW as your IC I am to inform you that what I came to as a player lynching pwnman is partially a "Policy Lynch" meaning him being town would still hurt us the next day.

[McGriddle]

sounds like you're just backing yourself up incase he flips town there mcgriddle

That's your opinion, but I am just tryin to help the newbies. It's my job.

[McGriddle]

maybe it just seems an odd time to bring it up, surely a more ideal time would've been when you were debating whether or not to lay a vote on him and explain a policy lynch to newbs...

So you are accusing me of being scum because of my timing of explanation... It shouldn't matter when help noobs, at least I am doing it. I am Being a Good IC. The non-noobs already (should) know what a policy lynch is, so I shouldn't have to explain myself for telling them what it is.

[McGriddle]

F*** I knew it! I should have kept my vote!

[McGriddle]

Did you think that Regfan was town?

Personally I thought Regfan looked more town than LordChornos.

[McGriddle]

Did you think that Regfan was town?

Personally I thought Regfan looked more town than LordChornos.

Why?

Based off of gut and what content was posted in his posts

[McGriddle]

Holy balls lol I came back in a weird position. Lol I think everyone claiming right now would be as beneficial as it gets. Unless I missed a cop or doc flip.

Lot's of pressure, let me know if there was a cop/doc claim or flip that I missed and I will go back a ISO my 2 suspects.

[McGriddle]

Well, there was a cop flip in the day 1 lynch.

Okay, then I am going to

Vote: LordChronos

[McGriddle]

Well, there was a cop flip in the day 1 lynch.

Okay, then I am going to

Vote: LordChronos

Man I really hope I was right.

Well if you're town, and the other guy are town, I know I am town, that means he HAS to be scum.