Newbie 584: Mark it "done"!

icemanE · Post Post #952 (isolation #200) » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:17 am

Doesn't change the fact that he wasn't scummy. :rolleyes:

What?

icemanE · Post Post #957 (isolation #201) » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:59 pm

If you choose to believe that ala is cop, then twigs becomes safer bet among the two.

Why on earth would you believe it though?

icemanE · Post Post #959 (isolation #202) » Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:14 pm

ting =) wrote:also, stop saying 'he's scummy' without making case, k?

it's almost sd-ish.

Tell me this isn't directed at me.

icemanE · Post Post #962 (isolation #203) » Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:31 am

Twigs wrote: You have one post to make a good case against iceman other than "I got a guilty", as that might be fake claim.

Alabaska has made a post. Twigs - please hold true to your word and eliminate the scum now.

icemanE · Post Post #964 (isolation #204) » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:04 am

Don't worry Twigs, he's not.

icemanE · Post Post #966 (isolation #205) » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:13 am

Alabaska J wrote:Go town

WAy to royally screw us Twigs :/

Dude. Unless you're a mafia cop or you get reverse reports, you aren't cop, and you just got lynched, so why are you still pretending you aren't scum?

icemanE · Post Post #970 (isolation #206) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:05 am

That's the worst possible outcome. I was hoping to be killed overnight.

icemanE · Post Post #971 (isolation #207) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:09 am

I think a full reread is in order for me. Muffin, are you still around? We haven't heard from you since the 12th.

icemanE · Post Post #972 (isolation #208) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:14 am

Wait - this is actually pretty obvious. From my reread on Alabaska I recall a good deal of his forcing the issue that muffin was not the least scummy of the players on day one. Then Alabaska did the fake cop claim thing with Twigs, and then said this:

Alabaska wrote: WAy to royally screw us Twigs :/

There's one more reason, though it's not coming to mind at the moment (I'll think of it and post back ASAP), that Twigs is obviously the last scum.

icemanE · Post Post #973 (isolation #209) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:39 am

Alabaska wrote: muffin can't be scum; I got an innocent on him. :/

Ah, here's one of the things that was keeping me from being 100% sure that muffin was town and Twigs was scum.

In his cop-claim gambit, alabaska said:

1. He had a guilty on me.
2. He had an innocent on muffin.

I assumed this was just part of his tactic - an attempt to sway muffin to vote with him. It was of course immediately obvious to me that report #1 was fake, which does not mean that report two is fake (since he made both of them up) but you have to consider this, when looking at Alabaska's gambit:

Who was he trying to persuade?

The one thing Alabaska did a really nice job of on Day 3 that I have to give him props for is keeping me wary of both Twigs AND muffin. He didn't make either look totally guilty or innocent. I KNEW he was scum and he did a nice job of tying himself to both muffin and Twigs, and only ever said that he thought Ting and I were the scum pair, which of course makes today's decision very difficult for me. It's tough to discern whether Alabaska was trying to persuade muffin to join him with the innocent report, or if he was using the innocent report to clear muffin and the cop claim to get Twigs on his side. Clearly neither myself nor Ting bought the claim or the reports so his target, in terms of who he wanted to persuade to vote with himself and his scum partner, was clearly either Twigs or muffin. I will think and post back later.

icemanE · Post Post #976 (isolation #210) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:27 pm

Just as an fyi Twigs, if muffin pulls out a guilty on me, he is also scum. I don't think he'd be dumb enough to make the same mistake that Alabaska did.

Anyways, I'd like to hear from each of you two things to help me make up my mind:

1. Why you aren't scum.
2. Why you think the other is scum.

icemanE · Post Post #980 (isolation #211) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:20 am

Yeah, I think there's too much history of muffin being pro-town for him to be scum. But let me say this: If you are scum, muffin, and this is really one of your first games, you did an incredible job.

vote: Twigs

Good game everybody, and I hope I did the right thing!

icemanE · Post Post #981 (isolation #212) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:34 am

Also muffin, I think you played a good game either way. Look at it this way: If you're town you just helped us win, and if you're scum you just won.

icemanE · Post Post #983 (isolation #213) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:39 am

Twiglees wrote:Damnit!

Well done town, you win. Great game.

You guys were so close to winning, I was scared

icemanE · Post Post #990 (isolation #214) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:06 pm

muffin wrote: There was also a stage where icemane was on L-1 and I had already typed out my vote to put the final vote on. In the end I clicked of it and decided id think about it in 24 hours and that i most definatly dont regret.

Thank God for that, heh heh.

Nice job everybody, thanks especially to the IC's, this game is pretty much the reason I know how to play now.