Mod Error Mafia [TM2015] - Game Over

[GreyICE]

Do I have control of this slot finally?

Vote: Cabd

Should have fucking been done day 1, he was obvscum by page 2.

[GreyICE]

I got lynched in my game (ask your moronic brain damaged teammates about that, if you can comprehend their idiotic babbling) and LLD has been bitching about how much this game sucked basically since it started.

[GreyICE]

Do I have control of this slot finally?

Vote: Cabd

Should have fucking been done day 1, he was obvscum by page 2.

Any other reads?

Sure. Rhinox is fucking obvtown, Cephrir is town, Kats is being cheeky scum.

Oh and if Reckoner ever hits L-1 I'll hammer, that lynch is protown under all circumstances. Would rather lynch some scum though.

[GreyICE]

'cause I fucking hate your guts, asshole

[GreyICE]

I said I'd hammer if you were at L-1, but I'd rather lynch scum.

How the fuck did that suffice to send you into a tailspin of panic posting? Good god, I couldn't have applied gentler pressure if I tried.

[GreyICE]

Kats has flipped and was town.

Why is ceph town? Read on tbone?

Ceph is town for two reasons. First is the early miller claim. That's like a bloody obvious town tell. The only time I've seen scum claim miller first post is if they waited a few pages. Right out on like the second post of the game, not even waiting for counterclaim? Maybe if he got a miller fakeclaim, MAYBE. Frankly I'd probably townread on that alone, but if I had to describe his attitude it's DGAF. I don't see Cephir coming into team mafia, randomly rolling scum (no matter what his token assignments were) and then nonchalantly deciding to play DGAF piss-in-your-face scum. Most likely he's town.

T-Bone I had as mildly scummy, but that was a while ago, and I never reached day 2. For the past few pages he seems active and aggressive.

[GreyICE]

Because you're being a raging cunt right now and it's really fucking offensive when you decide to just come into a game and make it personal for no fucking reason, and my posting was a way for me to try and neutralize the situation without responding at length about how much of a cunt you're being.

'kay, go bugger yourself and stop talking to me.

[GreyICE]

GreyICE, read up, tell me what you think of Tboner; also, claiming miller is not yet alignment indicative imo but.. what do you think about claiming hated?

HOLY FUCK

The only thing you got out of it is it's "not alignment indicative"? How? There's multiple ways to claim miller! Lets go over a quick checklist:

1) Claimed super early in the game, first post -

Town

2) Did not suggest Supah Sekret Powahs that went along with the miller role -

Town

3) Did not use the miller claim to sit out the early game -

Town

4) Has not been scumplaining about how no one trusts him just because he's a miller -

Town

Miller claims come in many flavors. Everything above is bad flavor.

Notscience was Hated? Skimming ISO

1) Claimed later in the game, claimed not in first post
2) Modified claim later to avoid policy lynch.
3) Claim came with extra wibbits (Conditional)

Not fond of overall posting. Hated claim is null-scummy. Also missed the later modification of the claim, that's really damn bad

Does this make the difference clear?

[GreyICE]

T-Bone: No idea. Liked his posting for passion on the last few pages, I guess.

[GreyICE]

Just reread the start of D2, because you clearly missed the main important event today.

Care to summarize?

[GreyICE]

I repeat, scum miller is a viable role here. Why can't ceph have it?

It's not about the role. It's about how he claimed. I actually gave Shos a bullet point list of how I liked the behavior up above, I can't make it any clearer than that.

Anyway, this is taking up too much time. It wasn't the only reason for my town read (even though it's the one 100,000 posts have been made about) and it's in no way interesting. I just got out of an 80,000 post spamfest, lets not make a new one.

PEdit: He double tracked? Like a role that lets you track two people?
Pedit2: wut

[GreyICE]

Grey you didn't answer to what sort of scumgame you would expect from Ceph

Probably if he was going to coast on a miller claim, hyper-townie reads-list/analysis type of discussion. Try and get in as the "obvtown miller" without doing much.

I've been spammed with a billion questions, please don't be Pirate Mollie.

PEdit: wat? So there's two trackers, and one sends the result to the wrong person?

That... kind of makes sense with the theme.

[GreyICE]

Wait, you're claiming roleblocker?

Why Eddie?

[GreyICE]

But I was v/la and LLD active lurked so you got it backwards.

CLAIM FLAVOR AND REASONS ON EDDIE NOW

[GreyICE]

Okay, this stuff is making my eyes bleed. Shos, TBone, unless you're both scum and this is your method of making me hate my life, please stop. I just got out of the shittiest game of mafia I ever played in that featured more of this crap than any one human should have to handle.

For the record, I believe the claim and the flavor, I just don't know if it's town.

[GreyICE]

So much resistance to lynching obvious scum.

I'll give +50 town points to the first person on a vanity wagon to bus their useless scumbuddy. I know he's some awesome scum power role, but think of the town points you're about to earn.

[GreyICE]

Proof of claim is not proof of alignment.
Proof of claim is not proof of alignment.
Proof of claim is not proof of alignment.
Proof of claim is not proof of alignment.

Please write the above 1000 times on a chalkboard.

He claimed over three fucking posts, failed to put flavor in his claim before he'd seen two townflips, and then went back and specified that his role didn't work at L-1.

Like the SECOND somebody posts, my ability to change their vote is lost until they get prodded again. I have to be online to tell magua to use my power between the prod and them posting to not get replaced. It's basically nearly vanilla, which sucks because I read it at first and got super excited and was thinking I could cause a fakehamer gambit or two with it.

My role specifies placing "what would be L-1 for that player" not just "L-1" as a "you can't move a vote to that wagon"

Just the role as mentioned, I didn't expect to be so absent/sick that I had to show it just as a show of good faith to get people less jump-down-throaty.

Too bad, IDGAF


In that order

"when the mod doesn't replace lurkers"

"limited role mover"

Still needs to claim before you debate hammering.

Please go read DGB's "how to claim as town" thread. I know Cabd has. This was the OPPOSITE of that.

[GreyICE]

Oh nevermind, he claimed right before Kats was lynched.

Still was completely fucking bizarre. Who leaves 500 posts between their role claim and their flavor claim?

[GreyICE]

I'm starting to think that "Confbias" is the new fucking useless word that means nothing. It can join "meta" and "misrep" as words that mean that every fucking thing the person says after them can be ignored.

[GreyICE]

Yeah, except the claim was fucking scummy as shit.

Are you a devotee of the word "meta" Wisdom? And are you willing to actually listen to me, unlike other players on your lunatic team?

[GreyICE]

Yeah, except the claim was fucking scummy as shit.

No it was completely null

I asked you a fucking question. Answer

[GreyICE]

Here's a real question, Grey: What happens

when

Cabd flips town?

Do you have some information that I'm lacking here?

[GreyICE]

Also you didn't answer my question, Wisdom.

[GreyICE]

No I don't have information, I'm asking you what will happen

if

he flips town

I need an "O RLY" owl.

Here's a real question, Grey: What happens

when

Cabd flips town?

[GreyICE]

Youre still not answering grey

When did it go from "when" to "if" Wisdom?

Your answer is relevant to my actions.

[GreyICE]

Oh?

I'd lynch you, Wisdom.

[GreyICE]

Grey, 2235.

Hammering in 24 hours. If there are any objections, speak up.

Ah, missed that. I'll ask Lexi why she townreads Cabd, frankly I didn't feel like arguing with her, it's not like I'd ever win that one anyway. I can ask her tonight, but we have a guest coming, and she gives so little fucks about this game that I'm not sure anything useful will come.

Me personally, I scumread Cabd from what I first read of this game, and frankly jack shit has happened here to make me change my mind, except maybe Wisdom coming in and saying "What happens

when

Cabd flips town!"

So I have a question, you scumread Cabd since early, according to your ISO.

All right, I think I'm caught up.

strong town

ceph
Iec

town

shos
NS- uhh this might be more null but I'm not putting this in scummy
mollie slot- ediie are you gonna do stuff today?
T-bone- I'm thinking this slot is on the right way, let's see where it goes.

scummy

Lady person
Rhino- town if cabd scum so maybe should be higher but I feel bad about his posts

lynch pls

reck
cabd

I really feel pretty good about cabd and reck being scum. I feel that both of them independently have a great chance of being scum and their interactions around cabd's readslist are telling.

VOTE: cabd
or reck whatever way this swings

So... where have you been all day on this one?

[GreyICE]

Notscience is town.

Is this Cephrir stuff just the miller?

[GreyICE]

Game, shmame.

Notscience is town.

Do we massclaim here?

[GreyICE]

Are we massclaiming?

[GreyICE]

I have no idae how it even happened, frankly.

Vote Count 2.26 - Final

Cabd (6): xRECKONERx,

notscience,

Cephrir, Iecerint, GreyICE, shos

Whyyyyyy are you town....

*headdesk*

Okay, tell Mastin to go eat a Pine then get back here with some real reads if you're going to do this stuff.

[GreyICE]

You didn't answer my question either.

[GreyICE]

Oh my fucking god, you are incredibly dense

I HAVE A NIGHT ACTION RESULT THAT SAYS HE'S NOT SCUM

[GreyICE]

Yeah, it kinda doesn't work very well.

I'm the mod mistake where you don't replace players before the night ends (can I claim my role name?) and I can find out if the player has the ability to send a night action.

N1, LLD discovered that T-Bone can submit night actions.
N2, I picked the hated claim because I know 100% my role can test it, and he can't submit night actions.

[GreyICE]

Anyway, I've read more of the game, and I still think Cephir is town. I'm sorry, I'm not willing to lynch on double miller claim in this fucking bizarre setup. And he's on VLA.

What do you think of Shos and T-Bone?

[GreyICE]

Please, say you blocked me. This 1v1 will be fucking hysterical. Come on, you don't need your buddy's permission, do it!

[GreyICE]

Come on T-Bone, grow a pair and claim to have blocked me. Double fucking dog dare you

[GreyICE]

........................

Vote: T-Bone

[GreyICE]

But yeah I'll 1v1 you Grey because you are actually scum no matter how many times Wisdom says otherwise. I welcome my mislynch at your hands so that they can turn around and lynch you tomorrow.

Vote: GreyIce

preedit: Because his claim is SAFE AS FUCK considering I already outted my role yesterday. And then he targeted yet another player with a claim on the table. He's really breaking ground with his information.

Says the guy who targeted a player with a claimed role AND A DEAD PERSON

Here, let me review that one for you.

[GreyICE]

Stop arguing with scum, Wisdom. It drags you down to their level and then you both look like shit. You're not going to convince them the mod gave them a red role PM, they know that.

Wait for other players.

[GreyICE]

I don't fucking know?

I dislike his claim re: Rhinox but uh

The whole random tracker thing is what's hanging me up. Why would he make up that HE RANDOMLY GOT A TRACKER RESULT? That's so batshit.

Oh also, Wisdom, what happened to NO WE ARE LYNCHING CEPH RA RA RA?

I think it's time to massclaim, honestly. There are a ton of claims out on the table already.

He probably got a random tracker result. There's probably a role where the mod delivers the result to the wrong player.

We are NOT massclaiming today, we are lynching scum today, and massclaiming tomorrow so they don't get even more information.

And if I die, NS is confirmed town, no matter how obnoxious he is.

[GreyICE]

I think I'd probably rather lynch NS and see if it's true or not? Fuck IDK. Or lynch Grey directly and confirm a town.

You want to lynch me. To confirm a townie. Who could then be killed tonight.



Maaaan, I'm trying not to call you out on your enormous bullshit, but fuck this.

[GreyICE]

Think my towniness is gonna be pretty obvious once you're dead scum, TB. But feel free to go full Kagami on my ass, I've had recent practice.

[GreyICE]

Let me put this clearly:

1) T-Bone claims there's a town tracker who delivers results to a random player
2) T-Bone claimed to roleblock Wisdom, a claimed player with a mediocre role yesterday
3) T-Bone claims to have targeted the dead guy. After thinking about it for a bit.

Fucking vote, people.

[GreyICE]

Though Grey, you should probably clarify whether your ability includes factional night actions.

Yes, I was told factional abilities are included.

[GreyICE]

Also, I blocked Grey so how did he get a night 1 result anyway?

Okay at a minimum can we wait for Cephrir to get back from VLA

because there's no fucking way we should be lynching him over T-Bone.

This is a botched fakeclaim, pure and simple.

[GreyICE]

Grey, again, why did you claim?

Got tired of the fuckery at day start.

For the record, LLD thought the role was shit and was going to mostly give us misleading results. That's why she took my suggestion on who to use it on. It says straight up that it can have results altered by other roles, and on top of that it's the home of the false positive. She doesn't put much stock in night actions (to be honest, neither do I, but giving the scum a godfather for this role would be hilarious and terrible, and if it was going to exist, it'd be some form of scum that can't submit a night kill so who gives a fuck about them anyway).

[GreyICE]

Like, roles LLD cares about: Vig, scum, serial killer.

There's really a consistent pattern there if you think about it.

[GreyICE]

What I see:

1) Bullshit about these points
2) Whining about the mod switching votes, which is probably some ass role that no one gives a fuck about. Or just general random points events fuckery, since it has literally zero mechanical effect

What I don't see:

1) Reasons to vote Cephrir beyond "holy fuck le miller" and "he hasn't done shit all game" (which is demonstrably untrue, he just hasn't done shit on his VLA)
2) T-Bone votes

Can we switch these?

[GreyICE]

Do you know whether she intentionally crumbed?

I doubt there was anything after what looks like a crumb in her first post but may or may not have been intentional.

Fuck no. LLD doesn't crumb.

[GreyICE]

Now Iec, why the hell do you think T-Bone is town?

[GreyICE]

Poked and prodded. Asked questions and followed up. Avoided spending half the day talking about points and bullshit like that (HI IECERINT YOU ARE SITTING ON THE FENCE LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER). Although frankly looking at his ISO, it fell off day 2. The fact remains the miller being nonstandard fits nicely with my conditional ability text, and he was active and involved up until the VLA. And I had him down as solidly town on day 1.

More to the point, he's obviously being used as a counterwagon to the guy who BOTCHED HIS FUCKING CLAIM. And what the fuck has T-Bone done anyway, except start a fight with Shos that he won't even commit to?

[GreyICE]

Here, T-Bone, I'll write it for you.

"Man, T-Bone was a shitty scum player. It's sad that he botched his claim badly two days in a row. Even his partner Iecerint couldn't bail him the fuck out in the scum QT, 'cause T-Bone was so fucking shit he couldn't even claim what Iecerint told him to claim. It's fucking awful I won't get to post this day 4 because I'm dead tonight."

FTR:

I inferred track because he used language like "didn't perform the kill" and "null result," but I don't remember him actually using the T word I guess.

T-Bone, if there is no reason for being cagey (e.g., variance in ideal scum messing-with depending upon your claim), it is better to lock yourself into the specifics now.

Wisdom, if I'm dead tomorrow, please consider popping out and doing something about this.

[GreyICE]

Now Iec, why the hell do you think T-Bone is town?

I don't. Where are you getting that?

I think T-Bone is the least likely player in this game to be scum.

The actual fuck, Iecerint.

The actual fuck

[GreyICE]

Yeaaahhh...

Wisdom, Shos, please please please please please please look at this tomorrow if I'm dead.

[GreyICE]

That's 700 posts ago, prior to T-Bone blocking Rhinox and Cabd flipping town.

T-Bone being scum basically requires Cephrir scum from my perspective, so the chance of him being scum is pretty low as it excluded lots of other potential pairings.

Walk me through this, how does T-Bone scum require cephrir scum?

[GreyICE]

I'm here, I probably should have VLAed for the weekend. reading up

[GreyICE]

So your miller is that you give the "worst possible result" to everything?

Does that include trackers?

[GreyICE]

SCUM

Ceph
T-Bone

Iecerint

GreyICE
shos
Wisdom
TierShift
notscience
Reckoner

TOWN

I've heard of putting yourself at the top of the town list. I've heard arguments over whether it's scummy.

What is this fucking nonsense.

[GreyICE]

Doesn't Reck have -1 million? He's like top of Iecerint's list. Not that that means anything, if town's doing it, they should just out and say who they think is scum. What the mysterious "point controller" thinks is total bullshit and I can't bring myself to care.

Where is my T-Boner wagon? We have spent over a week trying to lynch the claimed scum roleblocker and have three fucking votes. Meanwhile the claimed scum godfather is acting like a clown and distracting everyone.

[GreyICE]

fuck the points fuck the points lets lynch the scum roleblocker

the next person who says a goddamn word that doesn't involve tboner dying is getting fed to a bunch of angry sharks, in pieces

[GreyICE]

fuck the points fuck the points lets lynch the scum roleblocker

the next person who says a goddamn word that doesn't involve tboner dying is getting fed to a bunch of angry sharks, in pieces

Who are tbone's buddies, grey?

What happens if he is town?

Tiershift or Iecerint or Reckoner. Maybe Cephrir? Really doubt it.

If he's town I'll fucking go oh my fucking god he's not town goddamn it Wisdom.

But please enlighten me, who is the scumteam?

[GreyICE]

No, I don't think it was a planned bus. I think that they moved onto him when his claim didn't fly. My experience with scum who flub a claim is that their buddies are often the most virulent about targeting them, because they figure he's going down anyway, and want towncred off it. Iecerint, seriously, review his play Wisdom. I don't know why you'd rule it out that quickly.

I'm sure if you got Cephrir to L-1 there'd be a few people who would "reconsider" their vote. Then tomorrow they could always go "Oh yeah, I wanted T-Bone anyway" and run the fastbus over him.

[GreyICE]

Iecerint, seriously, review his play Wisdom. I don't know why you'd rule it out that quickly.

Where are you getting I'm ruling Iece out?

I do this thing where I read your posts and attempt to understand them, as if they were written in English and designed to be read.

All these people want his lynch though. Do you think it's a planned bus?

Stop Mollie-ing me.

[GreyICE]

I'm sure if you got Cephrir to L-1 there'd be a few people who would "reconsider" their vote. Then tomorrow they could always go "Oh yeah, I wanted T-Bone anyway" and run the fastbus over him.

But that's the point, I've been offering them the Ceph way all day and nobody's following. Well, Reck did, but nobody else. What does that mean?

You've been offering your own vote.

Wisdom, let me ask you something, with brutal honesty. Do you really think the scum view you as someone who leads the town? How many votes have your pushes garnered? Reckoner is sitting there and making fun of you, and he practically claimed scum godfather when he was begging me to investigate him. You think last night he was like "lets sheep Wisdom and push him on to town folks, he's a strong town leader, everyone follows him?" You think T-Bone is even reading your fucking posts?

I'm trying to work with you because you're my second strongest town read, and I'm about ready to chew a carpet. Does Cephrir's play today really make you think "oh yeah, he's definitely scum?"

[GreyICE]

Uh, yeah. That's how it always happens when I'm wrong, scum keep me around to lead the town to mislynches. I'm active and loud enough that I'm ideal for that.

But anyhow the point isn't that. The point is you're saying that Tbone's buddies would switch to Ceph given the chance - yet they have not been doing it (other than Reck). I guess if Reck is one of the buddies, the other wouldn't want to follow on Ceph unless some townies did first though, yeah?

If we assume T-Bone's vote on Cephrir in spirit :

Wis I'll vote I eve or ceph when I get home but I eve is preferred for me at the moment because of things he's said this phase I don't like.

Then yeah, I think they'd wait for one or two townies to bite. Shos is pretty solidly on T-Bone, has been for days, they can't think it's there. I'm certainly not hopping to Cephrir, although people keep cajoling me to. If I had a solid bet, they're hoping NS is the chosen one. With confirmed town leading the way, they could probably sleaze their way on.

[GreyICE]

I thought I explained that. LLD thought this role was going to be mostly useless, and let me pick the target. As she'd tell you, she could get Shos lynched without the help. She didn't give much stock in the results either. I was a little more enthusiastic, although I barely read the games outside of my own.

[GreyICE]

Yep, that sounds like Mastin alright. Tried so hard, and come so far, and in three years hasn't changed a wink. NS, tell her to go read T-Bone's ISO. We are NOT lynching him "for his claim". We are lynching him because he's scum who has fucking given up on the game. He has actually literally tossed in the towel and stopped fucking playing after he botched his claim and she wants to lynch the guy on VLA. And she is NOT pulling another fucking Pine on me. Last time I told her that she shoved her fingers in her ears and DID THE WRONG FUCKING THING. Not. Again. Tell her she fucking owes me an actual scumlynch twice over, and I'm calling it.

I mean seriously, look at his fucking posts! Do you honestly think he thinks we'll give two figs about his "thoughts" tomorrow? Not one fucking chance.

Go off on Tiershift tomorrow for all I care, I'm going to be fucking dead so you can do what you want.

[GreyICE]

Wisdom hands out messages, not Rhinox. Rhinox was some doctor variant (Loud Doctor). Which could mean practically anything in this setup.

[GreyICE]

Lmao wait Grey says I'm claiming GF by begging him to check me... When GF would be useless against a 'do u have a night action' check

Because my role PM says that it will.

It literally says that there exist roles in the game that can alter my results.

[GreyICE]

"http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Loud": The Loud modifier makes it so if Player A targets Player B at night, Player B will be informed that he/she was targeted by Player A but not what action was taken. For example, if Player A was a Loud Cop and used it on Player B, Player B would be notified that he/she was targeted by Player A, but not that he/she used cop.

Okay, so Rhinox was proven roleblocked. Which suggests that he targeted scum night 1.

Who was Rhinox's strongest town read on Day 1?

[GreyICE]

Did anyone get a message N1?

Jesus Christ I hate this role madness shit.

[GreyICE]

You're probably town and I want to work with you.

Rhino, who do you think is scum other than shos?

Let me work backwards. Lets say you're town. And lets say ceph is also town because other than the 2 millers thing the only thing me and my team have a bad feelings we haven't really been able to justify yet. Lets let Iec be town too because I'm kinda getting good feelings from his posting today. Notscience I've also felt ok with all game and I felt good about mollie even tho I'm entirely unimpressed with fenix so far. If I say that is my 'town bloc' I'm not lynching today, then I'll have scum in:.

From day 2, but the closest he came to solid reads.

He flipped on Tier a few posts later, but I could see Rhinox protecting someone he flipped on mid Day 2. Really, this seems like his most likely protect block. NS would have claimed it, so that argues TierShift, Cephrir or maybe Iece.

[GreyICE]

Wow rofl.

Vote: Shos

[GreyICE]

Wait, no way in hell T-Bone is scum with Shos, right? Unless that was some epic roleplay D2.

[GreyICE]

Loud doesn't say what the action was, only that you were targeted.

[GreyICE]

Okay, I've been busy as fuck, but I'm here.

Town always agree with Wisdom, duh!

Good god does that read like cheeky scum happy the Wisdom-tunnel is off them. -_-

Unvote

[GreyICE]

So, Shos has a night action, vote accordingly.

Vote: Shos

No prod Magua, suck it.

[GreyICE]

What sort of fucking self-watch is active?

Fuck that noise, he claimed that shit after I claimed.

[GreyICE]

"Hey Magua, I'd like to NOT watch myself tonight. It's an important decision"
"Why is that, Shos?"
"There are things that I do to myself in the night that even I do not want to see."

lololol

[GreyICE]

'kay that's great.

Vote Shos now, Wiz

[GreyICE]

Fucking yes.

[GreyICE]

The actual role name is "When the mod doesn't replace players before dawn".

And we're lynching Wisdom. "Lets lynch T-Bone people, he's the only one who makes sense with all these scumgroups!"

Yeah, fuck that.

Vote: Wisdom

[GreyICE]

T-Bone is the only one who makes sense with all these scumgroups... until I vote him. Then it's absolute 180, vote me.

Yeah, lets end this game today. Reckoner, do something useful for the first time in your miserable life, and vote scum.

[GreyICE]

So, the only scumteams I see as possible are grey/tbone, shos/tbone, Reck/tbone. Guess who we are lynching.

VOTE: tbone

Reck doesn't make any sense for the reason I said. You're now doing a bad AtE, even Tier's was better.

VOTE: tbone

It's grey. Promise you'll lynch him tomorrow then lynch me as many times as you wish.

OH WOW THAT WAS NICE AND FAST

HEY T-BONE, GUESS WHAT THE TUNE WILL BE TOMORROW IF YOU LYNCH ME TODAY

[GreyICE]

Wanna claim scum with me, Cephrir?

All we have to do is convince T-Bone or Reck to claim scum too, then we can end this game.

[GreyICE]

By the by, literally every living player has been on his scum lists. Every. Single. One.

But if anyone thinks he's scum, oh my god, they're "confirmed scum".

Fuck this shit, this shitter is not town.

[GreyICE]

I am leaning no lynch as my preference right now.

There is no fucking way we are doing this.

Pick one out of Grey/me and lynch him.

I agree 100 fucking percent.

Do this.

And pick Wisdom.

I fucking got your scumbuddy yesterday (okay LLD did but whatever, she quit this shitshow so she gets zero credit). I'm going to fucking nail you into the grave today.

That stunt with "lynch T-Bone" yesterday was fucking horrible, and you were hoping to coast through today on the back of it.

[GreyICE]

A fact you somehow overlooked. Until I voted for you, of course. Then "all the signs point to me".

You're a terrible fucking liar, Wisdom.

[GreyICE]

If it isn't tbone and he doesn't die overnight, then probably

It doesn't sound that farfetched to me. Grey avoided clearing me/reck that way and besides there was utility in bussing shos.

Grey's makes the least sense, as we already discussed

^all these are before you voted me.

Ah yes, Wisdom is certain I'm scum. I wonder if that's happened before?

So, the only scumteams I see as possible are grey/tbone, shos/tbone, Reck/tbone. Guess who we are lynching.

VOTE: tbone

Nobody is ignoring me that's why everyone continues ignoring the fact Ceph is scum

Fine by me

VOTE: reck

It's quite obvious reck is preparing a fakeclaim here. Can we make him claim it sooner than later please?

Yeah I mean you can produce quotes from your ISO for literally ANY LIVING PLAYER that says they're confirmed scum.

I guess that's one way to deflect off the obvious OMGUS

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And Iecerint too, if it comes to that.

Strange, I remember a lot less quotes about Shos and Tiershift about how they were confirmed scum.

[GreyICE]

Hey guys, show of hands, anyone think Wisdom is confirmed town?

Bueller? Bueller?

Quit your fucking AtE, fucker, it's not working.

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Yeah I mean you can produce quotes from your ISO for literally ANY LIVING PLAYER that says they're confirmed scum.

I guess that's one way to deflect off the obvious OMGUS

lol omgus. It's not like I've been saying you are scum since yesterday. The only way I gave you a temporary pass was because I knew you targeted shos and I was like "why the fuck did he target his buddy", but given the utility the bussing had it makes sense why you did it. Which, again, I argued before you voted me.

Remind me again, Wisdom, what was the utility of hard bussing over lynching T-Bone?

Can anyone answer why it would be better for scum-me to lynch scum-Shos over town-Tbone yesterday?

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Can anyone answer why it would be better for scum-me to lynch scum-Shos over town-Tbone yesterday?

You would've already put the bus into place N3... meaning that you couldn't really take it back after the track result was floating out there.

If you think I read that tracker result before I claimed you're giving me WAY too much credit.

And apparently he claimed an active role or someshit? Why would Shos design a fakeclaim that gave me an excuse not to investigate him and then what, I decide to investigate him?

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Grey, how is your ability worded?

My name is "When the mod doesn't replace players before dawn"

My role PM is worded, somewhat similar to this: I may pick a player to investigate. I will learn whether they have or do not have night actions. The scum kill is an action. I was told that there could be things that alter this result.

There's an (A) before that ability.

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Though Grey, you should probably clarify whether your ability includes factional night actions.

Yes, I was told factional abilities are included.

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Plus I still think it takes extra ordinary foresight to target shos just to set him up for a lynch that wasn't really on the table until Ceph claimed again.

If the lynch didn't swing shos's way grey could just claim it as "i confirm he has a night action like he claimed" and not bus.

Honestly, what fucking sense does "Self-watcher with an active ability" even make? And why would I investigate him if he set his fakeclaim up that way? I'd never do that. I'd never kill Iecerint, he literally thought I was confirmed town.

So Reck, Cephrir, when I flip town, what's the plan for tomorrow?